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#11683 From: Zoe Fail <zoesveryhappy@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: Has CN stopped?
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Interesting what you say about Gibbs, especially as he's been tipped to make the squad for S. Africa next year by various pundits. I think he was 1 of those players who just didn't cut it at Carrow Road rather than not being very good.

--- On Fri, 20/11/09, Malcolm Vasey <vasey.aquarius@...> wrote:

From: Malcolm Vasey <vasey.aquarius@...>
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?
To: CN@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 16:27

 

Some of these comments are of course worrying.
 
Any organisation with a loan based financial structure of £18 Million when they sell the product out for every match would be looking at ways of restructuring the debt because it is difficult to see how operationally the loan could ever be fully recovered.   We need to discover a great talent from our Youth Team and sell him to wipe the debt out but that is really a totally forlorn hope. 
 
I am not going into one about Doncaster here, you have all heard it enough times, but he advocated that the loan system was the way forward for us which of course is incorrect for many reasons.   Only persons who have followed the Club, or indeed any other Club, for a longish period of time would see that.   I recall with great affection some of the many yellow and green heroes of yesteryear some of whom went on to star elsewhere and some were just our stars but heroes never the less.   I doubt if many will recall Kieran Gibbs for instance in fifty years time but I recall well enough the full backs when I had to look through the fence to see the match ie Bill Lewis and John Duffy, Dennis Morgan et al.  I remember the great Reg Foulkes and a little later Barry Butler still in my view the best Central Defender ever to wear the yellow and green even though he has had many great successors in that position.   These are some of the reasons why I feel so strongly when I see the football side of things desecrated by people in power who have no understanding of our proud history.  I feel that the new Board are aware of these issues more so than in the past and that their custodianship of the Club will focus more on football matters than the infrastructural policies of the recent past. 
 
We are on the mend and whilst there are obvious financial problems the part that matters most, as long as we don't go into administration, are our results and the way we play which are very much on the up.  I thought our match at Leeds was the best I have seen Norwich play since the Mike Walker days or perhaps briefly when we had Huckerby and Crouch in the side under Worthington although I personally found his defensive traits too much at times and he does not sit amongst the greats with me.  
 
I would like to know how much it would take to prize Grant Holt away from us because a £1 million fee would do little to help us financially but have enormous affect on the team and our performances.   Holt looked tidy against Colchester on that fateful day but I think the scoreline did us a favour because we have landed a great Manager and spirit that he has brought into the Club.  It's still early days of course but very much so far so good for me.    It may be that It would take £5million to persuade Lambert to sell and perhaps Radio Norfolk could put that question to him.  In our position I suppose everyone has a price I just hope its not too cheap in his case.
 
I really hope that we can win at Southampton tomorrow not a place we generally do well at but they looked poor against Brighton so we have every chance.  And a win for Lowestoft too would also improve my weekend.
 
OTBC
 
Malcolm Vasey 
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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?


I think we have to start paying back the loans for the land, road and offices in December. But there is the loan from the Turners?
 
In money terms what is Holt worth as a player? We would be lucking to get £1m for him but to the club he's worth what £5 - £10m if we are in the top 6 of the Champ at the end of next season on the back of Holt.
 
Brian
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Subject: RE: [CN] Has CN stopped?

 
I took it to mean looking to defer Director's loans.  It also suggests that Superfax f***ed up the finances last season, meaning the picture is far from rosy.
 
We have a team plying well and getting results, so I expect lots of stories linking our players to other clubs.  There seems to be a good sense of camaraderie, with the only wantaway players possibly Theo, Maric and Whaley.  At the end of the day any player would be sold for a price, but if when the transfer window opens we are in promotion contention, a player is unlikely to want to move to a Championship club.
 
That of course does not mean a player won't be sold as needs must.
 
OTBC,
 
Paul
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Sent: 20 November 2009 14:36
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Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?


 
They go on about restructuring the £18.8m dept, does that mean we cant pay the instalment at the end of the year?
 
Also heard Hoolahan is off to Middlesborough but cant find anything to confirm it.
 
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcel
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

 
Yes I wasn't sure how the move saves money except I then thought of floodlighting And overtime for ground staff.
Of course Lambert is right - if someone offered silly money for Holt we'd take it, same as any club and star players.
I missed the news about accounts being skipped - sounds odd. Can you post a link pls?

On 20 Nov 2009, at 12:24, "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@btinterne t.com> wrote:

 

One or two things have happened this week though. The board have moved the reserve games from a 7.30pm kick off to a 2pm kick off that means there will be virtually no crowd and no school kids. This they say was done for cost???????? And there will be no accounts published this year with the AGM put off till February next year?????
Are we really in that bad a state?
Brian
 Oh yes and Lamberts said if the money was right he would sell Holt!
Brian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

 

It is a pity perhaps that when things are going better we do not feel moved to comment accordingly in the same way as is done when things are going badly.
 
I'd have to say that they had been going badly for a very long time before I started to comment on here and I must have been amongst the biggest critics of the old Board and the rubbish approach that they had.  There I go again!
 
I am well pleased with the new set up but if we had to be pedantic I feel that when things are not going well up front then we should more quickly introduce Cody MacDonald who is a very different type of player to our other strikers.  Grant Holt is amazing and I must say that Chris Martin has done very well as has Hoolahan which perhaps more than anything illustrates that this could have been his contribution all along.   Lappin too is a useful player and you just have to smile at how seriously misjudged he was by earlier managers including Bryan Gunn.   He would have been better at left back at Charlton than Shackell for instance.   How do you criticise a defence as mean as our has been but there are some problems?    Otsemabor is great going forward with pace but suspect defensively and I also feel that although he has played well of late Doherty is too physical and that is a real problem.  He is not even subtle but as I said he has done well of late.  Michael Nelson has also done better and with Berthel Askou very sound in my view and goes forward well we are OK in this area.
 
I am sure that Paul Lambert is a no nonsense type at the Training Ground and yet comes across so well on TV etc and seems a real gentleman his approach to Paulton before and after the game providing all the evidence that I need to make that comment.  A great guy who could go down as one of City's best but he no doubt has ambition and that is my only worry as far as he is concerned
 
What is happening about Maric and Theo?  The latter was on the bench the other day at Paulton and I feared for us if he had to come on and that must be Paul Lambert's view.   Has he played in the reserves? 
 
Whilst we are far from out of the woods we are doing very nicely but it would be nice to be drawn at home in a Cup competition.  We have had far too many away draws but the law of averages must click in soon if we survive at Southampton and Carlisle. 
 
At left back I am not sure how long Drury has left although he is competent enough at present.  In goal we are very strong now that Forster is here for the rest of the season and is free to play in all matches.  Behind him is the rapidly developing Declan Rudd and Theo who must now feel that he would be best away from Carrow Road.   I look forward to Spillane returning, a most useful player at Central defender or full back, and definitely a real prospect.  Not too sure about Tudor-Jones or Gill they seem easily crocked to me.  Korey Smith has played well as has Adeyemi and Francomb and there are other youngsters who could prove to be good players.  I also like the look of Stephen Hughes.
 
Things are not bad at Norwich City at the moment and I am pleased for our supporters who deserve this upturn. We have a good side and cover which can't be bad.
 
We still have a debt problem and I hope that does not serve to anchor us at our present level there is just the worry that the kitty is presently bare and if we needed a player we couldn't sign one anyway.  
 
I saw my other team Lowestoft Town beat Ryman League One (North) leaders Great Wakersley Rovers 3-0 at Crown Meadow on Tuesday and they have games in hand that could put the Trawler Boys top.  How nice it would be if they could continue to climb at least to Blue Square level. 
 
OTBC   
 
So let's shout it from the roof tops - we are on the way up it seems and may it long continue.
 
Malcolm Vasey
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Allman
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

Now that City are winning, the number of messages seems to have reduced, much the same as the PinkUn message board.  


Perhaps as we have less to complain about, we all have less to say about the state of the nation that is NCFC. Of course it is much easier to write something negative than positive (no finger pointing here at all), it's just the way it is for me.

Looking forward to a day out in Southampton tomorrow – it will be our toughest game for a while, but at least we’ll have a team come and try and play against us as opposed to the way that Tranmere came and parked the bus last Saturday.

Tim

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:14, Marcel <marcel_beren@yahoo.com> wrote:

 
I think it's called "wary contentment for the moment"

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:04, "Peter Dudley " <pdudley1980@ hotmail.co. uk> wrote:

Dunno but it has gone very quiet out there
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Has CN stopped?

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#11682 From: Zoe Fail <zoesveryhappy@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:00 pm
Subject: Re: Has CN stopped?
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There was something on the pink un message baord the other day about Rudd being injured - out for a while.
 
Where did you hear Forster's with us for the rest of the season? Was it announced today?

--- On Fri, 20/11/09, Malcolm Vasey <vasey.aquarius@...> wrote:

From: Malcolm Vasey <vasey.aquarius@...>
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?
To: CN@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 11:05

 

It is a pity perhaps that when things are going better we do not feel moved to comment accordingly in the same way as is done when things are going badly.
 
I'd have to say that they had been going badly for a very long time before I started to comment on here and I must have been amongst the biggest critics of the old Board and the rubbish approach that they had.  There I go again!
 
I am well pleased with the new set up but if we had to be pedantic I feel that when things are not going well up front then we should more quickly introduce Cody MacDonald who is a very different type of player to our other strikers.  Grant Holt is amazing and I must say that Chris Martin has done very well as has Hoolahan which perhaps more than anything illustrates that this could have been his contribution all along.   Lappin too is a useful player and you just have to smile at how seriously misjudged he was by earlier managers including Bryan Gunn.   He would have been better at left back at Charlton than Shackell for instance.   How do you criticise a defence as mean as our has been but there are some problems?    Otsemabor is great going forward with pace but suspect defensively and I also feel that although he has played well of late Doherty is too physical and that is a real problem.  He is not even subtle but as I said he has done well of late.  Michael Nelson has also done better and with Berthel Askou very sound in my view and goes forward well we are OK in this area.
 
I am sure that Paul Lambert is a no nonsense type at the Training Ground and yet comes across so well on TV etc and seems a real gentleman his approach to Paulton before and after the game providing all the evidence that I need to make that comment.  A great guy who could go down as one of City's best but he no doubt has ambition and that is my only worry as far as he is concerned
 
What is happening about Maric and Theo?  The latter was on the bench the other day at Paulton and I feared for us if he had to come on and that must be Paul Lambert's view.   Has he played in the reserves? 
 
Whilst we are far from out of the woods we are doing very nicely but it would be nice to be drawn at home in a Cup competition.  We have had far too many away draws but the law of averages must click in soon if we survive at Southampton and Carlisle. 
 
At left back I am not sure how long Drury has left although he is competent enough at present.  In goal we are very strong now that Forster is here for the rest of the season and is free to play in all matches.  Behind him is the rapidly developing Declan Rudd and Theo who must now feel that he would be best away from Carrow Road.   I look forward to Spillane returning, a most useful player at Central defender or full back, and definitely a real prospect.  Not too sure about Tudor-Jones or Gill they seem easily crocked to me.  Korey Smith has played well as has Adeyemi and Francomb and there are other youngsters who could prove to be good players.  I also like the look of Stephen Hughes.
 
Things are not bad at Norwich City at the moment and I am pleased for our supporters who deserve this upturn. We have a good side and cover which can't be bad.
 
We still have a debt problem and I hope that does not serve to anchor us at our present level there is just the worry that the kitty is presently bare and if we needed a player we couldn't sign one anyway.  
 
I saw my other team Lowestoft Town beat Ryman League One (North) leaders Great Wakersley Rovers 3-0 at Crown Meadow on Tuesday and they have games in hand that could put the Trawler Boys top.  How nice it would be if they could continue to climb at least to Blue Square level. 
 
OTBC   
 
So let's shout it from the roof tops - we are on the way up it seems and may it long continue.
 
Malcolm Vasey
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Allman
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

Now that City are winning, the number of messages seems to have reduced, much the same as the PinkUn message board.  


Perhaps as we have less to complain about, we all have less to say about the state of the nation that is NCFC. Of course it is much easier to write something negative than positive (no finger pointing here at all), it's just the way it is for me.

Looking forward to a day out in Southampton tomorrow – it will be our toughest game for a while, but at least we’ll have a team come and try and play against us as opposed to the way that Tranmere came and parked the bus last Saturday.

Tim

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:14, Marcel <marcel_beren@ yahoo.com> wrote:

 
I think it's called "wary contentment for the moment"

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:04, "Peter Dudley " <pdudley1980@ hotmail.co. uk> wrote:

Dunno but it has gone very quiet out there
-----Original Message-----
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:40:42
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Subject: [CN] Has CN stopped?

Has CN stopped?

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#11681 From: "Malcolm Vasey" <vasey.aquarius@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: Has CN stopped?
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Some of these comments are of course worrying.
 
Any organisation with a loan based financial structure of £18 Million when they sell the product out for every match would be looking at ways of restructuring the debt because it is difficult to see how operationally the loan could ever be fully recovered.   We need to discover a great talent from our Youth Team and sell him to wipe the debt out but that is really a totally forlorn hope. 
 
I am not going into one about Doncaster here, you have all heard it enough times, but he advocated that the loan system was the way forward for us which of course is incorrect for many reasons.   Only persons who have followed the Club, or indeed any other Club, for a longish period of time would see that.   I recall with great affection some of the many yellow and green heroes of yesteryear some of whom went on to star elsewhere and some were just our stars but heroes never the less.   I doubt if many will recall Kieran Gibbs for instance in fifty years time but I recall well enough the full backs when I had to look through the fence to see the match ie Bill Lewis and John Duffy, Dennis Morgan et al.  I remember the great Reg Foulkes and a little later Barry Butler still in my view the best Central Defender ever to wear the yellow and green even though he has had many great successors in that position.   These are some of the reasons why I feel so strongly when I see the football side of things desecrated by people in power who have no understanding of our proud history.  I feel that the new Board are aware of these issues more so than in the past and that their custodianship of the Club will focus more on football matters than the infrastructural policies of the recent past. 
 
We are on the mend and whilst there are obvious financial problems the part that matters most, as long as we don't go into administration, are our results and the way we play which are very much on the up.  I thought our match at Leeds was the best I have seen Norwich play since the Mike Walker days or perhaps briefly when we had Huckerby and Crouch in the side under Worthington although I personally found his defensive traits too much at times and he does not sit amongst the greats with me.  
 
I would like to know how much it would take to prize Grant Holt away from us because a £1 million fee would do little to help us financially but have enormous affect on the team and our performances.   Holt looked tidy against Colchester on that fateful day but I think the scoreline did us a favour because we have landed a great Manager and spirit that he has brought into the Club.  It's still early days of course but very much so far so good for me.    It may be that It would take £5million to persuade Lambert to sell and perhaps Radio Norfolk could put that question to him.  In our position I suppose everyone has a price I just hope its not too cheap in his case.
 
I really hope that we can win at Southampton tomorrow not a place we generally do well at but they looked poor against Brighton so we have every chance.  And a win for Lowestoft too would also improve my weekend.
 
OTBC
 
Malcolm Vasey 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?


I think we have to start paying back the loans for the land, road and offices in December. But there is the loan from the Turners?
 
In money terms what is Holt worth as a player? We would be lucking to get £1m for him but to the club he's worth what £5 - £10m if we are in the top 6 of the Champ at the end of next season on the back of Holt.
 
Brian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:00 PM
Subject: RE: [CN] Has CN stopped?

 

I took it to mean looking to defer Director's loans.  It also suggests that Superfax f***ed up the finances last season, meaning the picture is far from rosy.
 
We have a team plying well and getting results, so I expect lots of stories linking our players to other clubs.  There seems to be a good sense of camaraderie, with the only wantaway players possibly Theo, Maric and Whaley.  At the end of the day any player would be sold for a price, but if when the transfer window opens we are in promotion contention, a player is unlikely to want to move to a Championship club.
 
That of course does not mean a player won't be sold as needs must.
 
OTBC,
 
Paul
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 20 November 2009 14:36
To: CN@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?


 
They go on about restructuring the £18.8m dept, does that mean we cant pay the instalment at the end of the year?
 
Also heard Hoolahan is off to Middlesborough but cant find anything to confirm it.
 
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcel
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

 

Yes I wasn't sure how the move saves money except I then thought of floodlighting And overtime for ground staff.
Of course Lambert is right - if someone offered silly money for Holt we'd take it, same as any club and star players.
I missed the news about accounts being skipped - sounds odd. Can you post a link pls?

On 20 Nov 2009, at 12:24, "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@btinternet.com> wrote:

 



One or two things have happened this week though. The board have moved the reserve games from a 7.30pm kick off to a 2pm kick off that means there will be virtually no crowd and no school kids. This they say was done for cost???????? And there will be no accounts published this year with the AGM put off till February next year?????
Are we really in that bad a state?
Brian
 Oh yes and Lamberts said if the money was right he would sell Holt!
Brian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

 



It is a pity perhaps that when things are going better we do not feel moved to comment accordingly in the same way as is done when things are going badly.
 
I'd have to say that they had been going badly for a very long time before I started to comment on here and I must have been amongst the biggest critics of the old Board and the rubbish approach that they had.  There I go again!
 
I am well pleased with the new set up but if we had to be pedantic I feel that when things are not going well up front then we should more quickly introduce Cody MacDonald who is a very different type of player to our other strikers.  Grant Holt is amazing and I must say that Chris Martin has done very well as has Hoolahan which perhaps more than anything illustrates that this could have been his contribution all along.   Lappin too is a useful player and you just have to smile at how seriously misjudged he was by earlier managers including Bryan Gunn.   He would have been better at left back at Charlton than Shackell for instance.   How do you criticise a defence as mean as our has been but there are some problems?    Otsemabor is great going forward with pace but suspect defensively and I also feel that although he has played well of late Doherty is too physical and that is a real problem.  He is not even subtle but as I said he has done well of late.  Michael Nelson has also done better and with Berthel Askou very sound in my view and goes forward well we are OK in this area.
 
I am sure that Paul Lambert is a no nonsense type at the Training Ground and yet comes across so well on TV etc and seems a real gentleman his approach to Paulton before and after the game providing all the evidence that I need to make that comment.  A great guy who could go down as one of City's best but he no doubt has ambition and that is my only worry as far as he is concerned
 
What is happening about Maric and Theo?  The latter was on the bench the other day at Paulton and I feared for us if he had to come on and that must be Paul Lambert's view.   Has he played in the reserves? 
 
Whilst we are far from out of the woods we are doing very nicely but it would be nice to be drawn at home in a Cup competition.  We have had far too many away draws but the law of averages must click in soon if we survive at Southampton and Carlisle. 
 
At left back I am not sure how long Drury has left although he is competent enough at present.  In goal we are very strong now that Forster is here for the rest of the season and is free to play in all matches.  Behind him is the rapidly developing Declan Rudd and Theo who must now feel that he would be best away from Carrow Road.   I look forward to Spillane returning, a most useful player at Central defender or full back, and definitely a real prospect.  Not too sure about Tudor-Jones or Gill they seem easily crocked to me.  Korey Smith has played well as has Adeyemi and Francomb and there are other youngsters who could prove to be good players.  I also like the look of Stephen Hughes.
 
Things are not bad at Norwich City at the moment and I am pleased for our supporters who deserve this upturn. We have a good side and cover which can't be bad.
 
We still have a debt problem and I hope that does not serve to anchor us at our present level there is just the worry that the kitty is presently bare and if we needed a player we couldn't sign one anyway.  
 
I saw my other team Lowestoft Town beat Ryman League One (North) leaders Great Wakersley Rovers 3-0 at Crown Meadow on Tuesday and they have games in hand that could put the Trawler Boys top.  How nice it would be if they could continue to climb at least to Blue Square level. 
 
OTBC   
 
So let's shout it from the roof tops - we are on the way up it seems and may it long continue.
 
Malcolm Vasey
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Allman
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

Now that City are winning, the number of messages seems to have reduced, much the same as the PinkUn message board.  


Perhaps as we have less to complain about, we all have less to say about the state of the nation that is NCFC. Of course it is much easier to write something negative than positive (no finger pointing here at all), it's just the way it is for me.

Looking forward to a day out in Southampton tomorrow – it will be our toughest game for a while, but at least we’ll have a team come and try and play against us as opposed to the way that Tranmere came and parked the bus last Saturday.

Tim

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:14, Marcel <marcel_beren@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

I think it's called "wary contentment for the moment"

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:04, "Peter Dudley " <pdudley1980@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Dunno but it has gone very quiet out there
-----Original Message-----
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:40:42
To: <CN@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [CN] Has CN stopped?

Has CN stopped?

Brian

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Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: Has CN stopped?
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I think we have to start paying back the loans for the land, road and offices in December. But there is the loan from the Turners?
 
In money terms what is Holt worth as a player? We would be lucking to get £1m for him but to the club he's worth what £5 - £10m if we are in the top 6 of the Champ at the end of next season on the back of Holt.
 
Brian
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I took it to mean looking to defer Director's loans.  It also suggests that Superfax f***ed up the finances last season, meaning the picture is far from rosy.
 
We have a team plying well and getting results, so I expect lots of stories linking our players to other clubs.  There seems to be a good sense of camaraderie, with the only wantaway players possibly Theo, Maric and Whaley.  At the end of the day any player would be sold for a price, but if when the transfer window opens we are in promotion contention, a player is unlikely to want to move to a Championship club.
 
That of course does not mean a player won't be sold as needs must.
 
OTBC,
 
Paul
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They go on about restructuring the £18.8m dept, does that mean we cant pay the instalment at the end of the year?
 
Also heard Hoolahan is off to Middlesborough but cant find anything to confirm it.
 
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcel
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

 

Yes I wasn't sure how the move saves money except I then thought of floodlighting And overtime for ground staff.
Of course Lambert is right - if someone offered silly money for Holt we'd take it, same as any club and star players.
I missed the news about accounts being skipped - sounds odd. Can you post a link pls?

On 20 Nov 2009, at 12:24, "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@btinternet.com> wrote:

 



One or two things have happened this week though. The board have moved the reserve games from a 7.30pm kick off to a 2pm kick off that means there will be virtually no crowd and no school kids. This they say was done for cost???????? And there will be no accounts published this year with the AGM put off till February next year?????
Are we really in that bad a state?
Brian
 Oh yes and Lamberts said if the money was right he would sell Holt!
Brian
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It is a pity perhaps that when things are going better we do not feel moved to comment accordingly in the same way as is done when things are going badly.
 
I'd have to say that they had been going badly for a very long time before I started to comment on here and I must have been amongst the biggest critics of the old Board and the rubbish approach that they had.  There I go again!
 
I am well pleased with the new set up but if we had to be pedantic I feel that when things are not going well up front then we should more quickly introduce Cody MacDonald who is a very different type of player to our other strikers.  Grant Holt is amazing and I must say that Chris Martin has done very well as has Hoolahan which perhaps more than anything illustrates that this could have been his contribution all along.   Lappin too is a useful player and you just have to smile at how seriously misjudged he was by earlier managers including Bryan Gunn.   He would have been better at left back at Charlton than Shackell for instance.   How do you criticise a defence as mean as our has been but there are some problems?    Otsemabor is great going forward with pace but suspect defensively and I also feel that although he has played well of late Doherty is too physical and that is a real problem.  He is not even subtle but as I said he has done well of late.  Michael Nelson has also done better and with Berthel Askou very sound in my view and goes forward well we are OK in this area.
 
I am sure that Paul Lambert is a no nonsense type at the Training Ground and yet comes across so well on TV etc and seems a real gentleman his approach to Paulton before and after the game providing all the evidence that I need to make that comment.  A great guy who could go down as one of City's best but he no doubt has ambition and that is my only worry as far as he is concerned
 
What is happening about Maric and Theo?  The latter was on the bench the other day at Paulton and I feared for us if he had to come on and that must be Paul Lambert's view.   Has he played in the reserves? 
 
Whilst we are far from out of the woods we are doing very nicely but it would be nice to be drawn at home in a Cup competition.  We have had far too many away draws but the law of averages must click in soon if we survive at Southampton and Carlisle. 
 
At left back I am not sure how long Drury has left although he is competent enough at present.  In goal we are very strong now that Forster is here for the rest of the season and is free to play in all matches.  Behind him is the rapidly developing Declan Rudd and Theo who must now feel that he would be best away from Carrow Road.   I look forward to Spillane returning, a most useful player at Central defender or full back, and definitely a real prospect.  Not too sure about Tudor-Jones or Gill they seem easily crocked to me.  Korey Smith has played well as has Adeyemi and Francomb and there are other youngsters who could prove to be good players.  I also like the look of Stephen Hughes.
 
Things are not bad at Norwich City at the moment and I am pleased for our supporters who deserve this upturn. We have a good side and cover which can't be bad.
 
We still have a debt problem and I hope that does not serve to anchor us at our present level there is just the worry that the kitty is presently bare and if we needed a player we couldn't sign one anyway.  
 
I saw my other team Lowestoft Town beat Ryman League One (North) leaders Great Wakersley Rovers 3-0 at Crown Meadow on Tuesday and they have games in hand that could put the Trawler Boys top.  How nice it would be if they could continue to climb at least to Blue Square level. 
 
OTBC   
 
So let's shout it from the roof tops - we are on the way up it seems and may it long continue.
 
Malcolm Vasey
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Allman
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

Now that City are winning, the number of messages seems to have reduced, much the same as the PinkUn message board.  


Perhaps as we have less to complain about, we all have less to say about the state of the nation that is NCFC. Of course it is much easier to write something negative than positive (no finger pointing here at all), it's just the way it is for me.

Looking forward to a day out in Southampton tomorrow – it will be our toughest game for a while, but at least we’ll have a team come and try and play against us as opposed to the way that Tranmere came and parked the bus last Saturday.

Tim

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:14, Marcel <marcel_beren@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

I think it's called "wary contentment for the moment"

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:04, "Peter Dudley " <pdudley1980@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Dunno but it has gone very quiet out there
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I took it to mean looking to defer Director's loans.  It also suggests that Superfax f***ed up the finances last season, meaning the picture is far from rosy.
 
We have a team plying well and getting results, so I expect lots of stories linking our players to other clubs.  There seems to be a good sense of camaraderie, with the only wantaway players possibly Theo, Maric and Whaley.  At the end of the day any player would be sold for a price, but if when the transfer window opens we are in promotion contention, a player is unlikely to want to move to a Championship club.
 
That of course does not mean a player won't be sold as needs must.
 
OTBC,
 
Paul
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They go on about restructuring the £18.8m dept, does that mean we cant pay the instalment at the end of the year?
 
Also heard Hoolahan is off to Middlesborough but cant find anything to confirm it.
 
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcel
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

 

Yes I wasn't sure how the move saves money except I then thought of floodlighting And overtime for ground staff.
Of course Lambert is right - if someone offered silly money for Holt we'd take it, same as any club and star players.
I missed the news about accounts being skipped - sounds odd. Can you post a link pls?

On 20 Nov 2009, at 12:24, "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@btinternet.com> wrote:

 



One or two things have happened this week though. The board have moved the reserve games from a 7.30pm kick off to a 2pm kick off that means there will be virtually no crowd and no school kids. This they say was done for cost???????? And there will be no accounts published this year with the AGM put off till February next year?????
Are we really in that bad a state?
Brian
 Oh yes and Lamberts said if the money was right he would sell Holt!
Brian
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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:05 AM
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It is a pity perhaps that when things are going better we do not feel moved to comment accordingly in the same way as is done when things are going badly.
 
I'd have to say that they had been going badly for a very long time before I started to comment on here and I must have been amongst the biggest critics of the old Board and the rubbish approach that they had.  There I go again!
 
I am well pleased with the new set up but if we had to be pedantic I feel that when things are not going well up front then we should more quickly introduce Cody MacDonald who is a very different type of player to our other strikers.  Grant Holt is amazing and I must say that Chris Martin has done very well as has Hoolahan which perhaps more than anything illustrates that this could have been his contribution all along.   Lappin too is a useful player and you just have to smile at how seriously misjudged he was by earlier managers including Bryan Gunn.   He would have been better at left back at Charlton than Shackell for instance.   How do you criticise a defence as mean as our has been but there are some problems?    Otsemabor is great going forward with pace but suspect defensively and I also feel that although he has played well of late Doherty is too physical and that is a real problem.  He is not even subtle but as I said he has done well of late.  Michael Nelson has also done better and with Berthel Askou very sound in my view and goes forward well we are OK in this area.
 
I am sure that Paul Lambert is a no nonsense type at the Training Ground and yet comes across so well on TV etc and seems a real gentleman his approach to Paulton before and after the game providing all the evidence that I need to make that comment.  A great guy who could go down as one of City's best but he no doubt has ambition and that is my only worry as far as he is concerned
 
What is happening about Maric and Theo?  The latter was on the bench the other day at Paulton and I feared for us if he had to come on and that must be Paul Lambert's view.   Has he played in the reserves? 
 
Whilst we are far from out of the woods we are doing very nicely but it would be nice to be drawn at home in a Cup competition.  We have had far too many away draws but the law of averages must click in soon if we survive at Southampton and Carlisle. 
 
At left back I am not sure how long Drury has left although he is competent enough at present.  In goal we are very strong now that Forster is here for the rest of the season and is free to play in all matches.  Behind him is the rapidly developing Declan Rudd and Theo who must now feel that he would be best away from Carrow Road.   I look forward to Spillane returning, a most useful player at Central defender or full back, and definitely a real prospect.  Not too sure about Tudor-Jones or Gill they seem easily crocked to me.  Korey Smith has played well as has Adeyemi and Francomb and there are other youngsters who could prove to be good players.  I also like the look of Stephen Hughes.
 
Things are not bad at Norwich City at the moment and I am pleased for our supporters who deserve this upturn. We have a good side and cover which can't be bad.
 
We still have a debt problem and I hope that does not serve to anchor us at our present level there is just the worry that the kitty is presently bare and if we needed a player we couldn't sign one anyway.  
 
I saw my other team Lowestoft Town beat Ryman League One (North) leaders Great Wakersley Rovers 3-0 at Crown Meadow on Tuesday and they have games in hand that could put the Trawler Boys top.  How nice it would be if they could continue to climb at least to Blue Square level. 
 
OTBC   
 
So let's shout it from the roof tops - we are on the way up it seems and may it long continue.
 
Malcolm Vasey
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Allman
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

Now that City are winning, the number of messages seems to have reduced, much the same as the PinkUn message board.  


Perhaps as we have less to complain about, we all have less to say about the state of the nation that is NCFC. Of course it is much easier to write something negative than positive (no finger pointing here at all), it's just the way it is for me.

Looking forward to a day out in Southampton tomorrow – it will be our toughest game for a while, but at least we’ll have a team come and try and play against us as opposed to the way that Tranmere came and parked the bus last Saturday.

Tim

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:14, Marcel <marcel_beren@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

I think it's called "wary contentment for the moment"

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:04, "Peter Dudley " <pdudley1980@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Dunno but it has gone very quiet out there
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Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:36 pm
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They go on about restructuring the £18.8m dept, does that mean we cant pay the instalment at the end of the year?
 
Also heard Hoolahan is off to Middlesborough but cant find anything to confirm it.
 
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcel
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

 

Yes I wasn't sure how the move saves money except I then thought of floodlighting And overtime for ground staff.
Of course Lambert is right - if someone offered silly money for Holt we'd take it, same as any club and star players.
I missed the news about accounts being skipped - sounds odd. Can you post a link pls?

On 20 Nov 2009, at 12:24, "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@btinternet.com> wrote:

 



One or two things have happened this week though. The board have moved the reserve games from a 7.30pm kick off to a 2pm kick off that means there will be virtually no crowd and no school kids. This they say was done for cost???????? And there will be no accounts published this year with the AGM put off till February next year?????
Are we really in that bad a state?
Brian
 Oh yes and Lamberts said if the money was right he would sell Holt!
Brian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

 



It is a pity perhaps that when things are going better we do not feel moved to comment accordingly in the same way as is done when things are going badly.
 
I'd have to say that they had been going badly for a very long time before I started to comment on here and I must have been amongst the biggest critics of the old Board and the rubbish approach that they had.  There I go again!
 
I am well pleased with the new set up but if we had to be pedantic I feel that when things are not going well up front then we should more quickly introduce Cody MacDonald who is a very different type of player to our other strikers.  Grant Holt is amazing and I must say that Chris Martin has done very well as has Hoolahan which perhaps more than anything illustrates that this could have been his contribution all along.   Lappin too is a useful player and you just have to smile at how seriously misjudged he was by earlier managers including Bryan Gunn.   He would have been better at left back at Charlton than Shackell for instance.   How do you criticise a defence as mean as our has been but there are some problems?    Otsemabor is great going forward with pace but suspect defensively and I also feel that although he has played well of late Doherty is too physical and that is a real problem.  He is not even subtle but as I said he has done well of late.  Michael Nelson has also done better and with Berthel Askou very sound in my view and goes forward well we are OK in this area.
 
I am sure that Paul Lambert is a no nonsense type at the Training Ground and yet comes across so well on TV etc and seems a real gentleman his approach to Paulton before and after the game providing all the evidence that I need to make that comment.  A great guy who could go down as one of City's best but he no doubt has ambition and that is my only worry as far as he is concerned
 
What is happening about Maric and Theo?  The latter was on the bench the other day at Paulton and I feared for us if he had to come on and that must be Paul Lambert's view.   Has he played in the reserves? 
 
Whilst we are far from out of the woods we are doing very nicely but it would be nice to be drawn at home in a Cup competition.  We have had far too many away draws but the law of averages must click in soon if we survive at Southampton and Carlisle. 
 
At left back I am not sure how long Drury has left although he is competent enough at present.  In goal we are very strong now that Forster is here for the rest of the season and is free to play in all matches.  Behind him is the rapidly developing Declan Rudd and Theo who must now feel that he would be best away from Carrow Road.   I look forward to Spillane returning, a most useful player at Central defender or full back, and definitely a real prospect.  Not too sure about Tudor-Jones or Gill they seem easily crocked to me.  Korey Smith has played well as has Adeyemi and Francomb and there are other youngsters who could prove to be good players.  I also like the look of Stephen Hughes.
 
Things are not bad at Norwich City at the moment and I am pleased for our supporters who deserve this upturn. We have a good side and cover which can't be bad.
 
We still have a debt problem and I hope that does not serve to anchor us at our present level there is just the worry that the kitty is presently bare and if we needed a player we couldn't sign one anyway.  
 
I saw my other team Lowestoft Town beat Ryman League One (North) leaders Great Wakersley Rovers 3-0 at Crown Meadow on Tuesday and they have games in hand that could put the Trawler Boys top.  How nice it would be if they could continue to climb at least to Blue Square level. 
 
OTBC   
 
So let's shout it from the roof tops - we are on the way up it seems and may it long continue.
 
Malcolm Vasey
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Allman
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

Now that City are winning, the number of messages seems to have reduced, much the same as the PinkUn message board.  


Perhaps as we have less to complain about, we all have less to say about the state of the nation that is NCFC. Of course it is much easier to write something negative than positive (no finger pointing here at all), it's just the way it is for me.

Looking forward to a day out in Southampton tomorrow – it will be our toughest game for a while, but at least we’ll have a team come and try and play against us as opposed to the way that Tranmere came and parked the bus last Saturday.

Tim

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:14, Marcel <marcel_beren@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

I think it's called "wary contentment for the moment"

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:04, "Peter Dudley " <pdudley1980@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Dunno but it has gone very quiet out there
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#11677 From: Marcel <marcel_beren@...>
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Yes I wasn't sure how the move saves money except I then thought of floodlighting And overtime for ground staff.
Of course Lambert is right - if someone offered silly money for Holt we'd take it, same as any club and star players.
I missed the news about accounts being skipped - sounds odd. Can you post a link pls?

On 20 Nov 2009, at 12:24, "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@...> wrote:

 



One or two things have happened this week though. The board have moved the reserve games from a 7.30pm kick off to a 2pm kick off that means there will be virtually no crowd and no school kids. This they say was done for cost???????? And there will be no accounts published this year with the AGM put off till February next year?????
Are we really in that bad a state?
Brian
 Oh yes and Lamberts said if the money was right he would sell Holt!
Brian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

 



It is a pity perhaps that when things are going better we do not feel moved to comment accordingly in the same way as is done when things are going badly.
 
I'd have to say that they had been going badly for a very long time before I started to comment on here and I must have been amongst the biggest critics of the old Board and the rubbish approach that they had.  There I go again!
 
I am well pleased with the new set up but if we had to be pedantic I feel that when things are not going well up front then we should more quickly introduce Cody MacDonald who is a very different type of player to our other strikers.  Grant Holt is amazing and I must say that Chris Martin has done very well as has Hoolahan which perhaps more than anything illustrates that this could have been his contribution all along.   Lappin too is a useful player and you just have to smile at how seriously misjudged he was by earlier managers including Bryan Gunn.   He would have been better at left back at Charlton than Shackell for instance.   How do you criticise a defence as mean as our has been but there are some problems?    Otsemabor is great going forward with pace but suspect defensively and I also feel that although he has played well of late Doherty is too physical and that is a real problem.  He is not even subtle but as I said he has done well of late.  Michael Nelson has also done better and with Berthel Askou very sound in my view and goes forward well we are OK in this area.
 
I am sure that Paul Lambert is a no nonsense type at the Training Ground and yet comes across so well on TV etc and seems a real gentleman his approach to Paulton before and after the game providing all the evidence that I need to make that comment.  A great guy who could go down as one of City's best but he no doubt has ambition and that is my only worry as far as he is concerned
 
What is happening about Maric and Theo?  The latter was on the bench the other day at Paulton and I feared for us if he had to come on and that must be Paul Lambert's view.   Has he played in the reserves? 
 
Whilst we are far from out of the woods we are doing very nicely but it would be nice to be drawn at home in a Cup competition.  We have had far too many away draws but the law of averages must click in soon if we survive at Southampton and Carlisle. 
 
At left back I am not sure how long Drury has left although he is competent enough at present.  In goal we are very strong now that Forster is here for the rest of the season and is free to play in all matches.  Behind him is the rapidly developing Declan Rudd and Theo who must now feel that he would be best away from Carrow Road.   I look forward to Spillane returning, a most useful player at Central defender or full back, and definitely a real prospect.  Not too sure about Tudor-Jones or Gill they seem easily crocked to me.  Korey Smith has played well as has Adeyemi and Francomb and there are other youngsters who could prove to be good players.  I also like the look of Stephen Hughes.
 
Things are not bad at Norwich City at the moment and I am pleased for our supporters who deserve this upturn. We have a good side and cover which can't be bad.
 
We still have a debt problem and I hope that does not serve to anchor us at our present level there is just the worry that the kitty is presently bare and if we needed a player we couldn't sign one anyway.  
 
I saw my other team Lowestoft Town beat Ryman League One (North) leaders Great Wakersley Rovers 3-0 at Crown Meadow on Tuesday and they have games in hand that could put the Trawler Boys top.  How nice it would be if they could continue to climb at least to Blue Square level. 
 
OTBC   
 
So let's shout it from the roof tops - we are on the way up it seems and may it long continue.
 
Malcolm Vasey
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Allman
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

Now that City are winning, the number of messages seems to have reduced, much the same as the PinkUn message board.  


Perhaps as we have less to complain about, we all have less to say about the state of the nation that is NCFC. Of course it is much easier to write something negative than positive (no finger pointing here at all), it's just the way it is for me.

Looking forward to a day out in Southampton tomorrow – it will be our toughest game for a while, but at least we’ll have a team come and try and play against us as opposed to the way that Tranmere came and parked the bus last Saturday.

Tim

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:14, Marcel <marcel_beren@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

I think it's called "wary contentment for the moment"

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:04, "Peter Dudley " <pdudley1980@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Dunno but it has gone very quiet out there
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Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:24 pm
Subject: Re: Has CN stopped?
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One or two things have happened this week though. The board have moved the reserve games from a 7.30pm kick off to a 2pm kick off that means there will be virtually no crowd and no school kids. This they say was done for cost???????? And there will be no accounts published this year with the AGM put off till February next year?????
Are we really in that bad a state?
Brian
 Oh yes and Lamberts said if the money was right he would sell Holt!
Brian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

 



It is a pity perhaps that when things are going better we do not feel moved to comment accordingly in the same way as is done when things are going badly.
 
I'd have to say that they had been going badly for a very long time before I started to comment on here and I must have been amongst the biggest critics of the old Board and the rubbish approach that they had.  There I go again!
 
I am well pleased with the new set up but if we had to be pedantic I feel that when things are not going well up front then we should more quickly introduce Cody MacDonald who is a very different type of player to our other strikers.  Grant Holt is amazing and I must say that Chris Martin has done very well as has Hoolahan which perhaps more than anything illustrates that this could have been his contribution all along.   Lappin too is a useful player and you just have to smile at how seriously misjudged he was by earlier managers including Bryan Gunn.   He would have been better at left back at Charlton than Shackell for instance.   How do you criticise a defence as mean as our has been but there are some problems?    Otsemabor is great going forward with pace but suspect defensively and I also feel that although he has played well of late Doherty is too physical and that is a real problem.  He is not even subtle but as I said he has done well of late.  Michael Nelson has also done better and with Berthel Askou very sound in my view and goes forward well we are OK in this area.
 
I am sure that Paul Lambert is a no nonsense type at the Training Ground and yet comes across so well on TV etc and seems a real gentleman his approach to Paulton before and after the game providing all the evidence that I need to make that comment.  A great guy who could go down as one of City's best but he no doubt has ambition and that is my only worry as far as he is concerned
 
What is happening about Maric and Theo?  The latter was on the bench the other day at Paulton and I feared for us if he had to come on and that must be Paul Lambert's view.   Has he played in the reserves? 
 
Whilst we are far from out of the woods we are doing very nicely but it would be nice to be drawn at home in a Cup competition.  We have had far too many away draws but the law of averages must click in soon if we survive at Southampton and Carlisle. 
 
At left back I am not sure how long Drury has left although he is competent enough at present.  In goal we are very strong now that Forster is here for the rest of the season and is free to play in all matches.  Behind him is the rapidly developing Declan Rudd and Theo who must now feel that he would be best away from Carrow Road.   I look forward to Spillane returning, a most useful player at Central defender or full back, and definitely a real prospect.  Not too sure about Tudor-Jones or Gill they seem easily crocked to me.  Korey Smith has played well as has Adeyemi and Francomb and there are other youngsters who could prove to be good players.  I also like the look of Stephen Hughes.
 
Things are not bad at Norwich City at the moment and I am pleased for our supporters who deserve this upturn. We have a good side and cover which can't be bad.
 
We still have a debt problem and I hope that does not serve to anchor us at our present level there is just the worry that the kitty is presently bare and if we needed a player we couldn't sign one anyway.  
 
I saw my other team Lowestoft Town beat Ryman League One (North) leaders Great Wakersley Rovers 3-0 at Crown Meadow on Tuesday and they have games in hand that could put the Trawler Boys top.  How nice it would be if they could continue to climb at least to Blue Square level. 
 
OTBC   
 
So let's shout it from the roof tops - we are on the way up it seems and may it long continue.
 
Malcolm Vasey
 
 
----- Original Message -----
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Now that City are winning, the number of messages seems to have reduced, much the same as the PinkUn message board.  


Perhaps as we have less to complain about, we all have less to say about the state of the nation that is NCFC. Of course it is much easier to write something negative than positive (no finger pointing here at all), it's just the way it is for me.

Looking forward to a day out in Southampton tomorrow – it will be our toughest game for a while, but at least we’ll have a team come and try and play against us as opposed to the way that Tranmere came and parked the bus last Saturday.

Tim

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:14, Marcel <marcel_beren@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

I think it's called "wary contentment for the moment"

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:04, "Peter Dudley " <pdudley1980@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Dunno but it has gone very quiet out there
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A good up front assessment . Nice one Malcolm
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It is a pity perhaps that when things are going better we do not feel moved to comment accordingly in the same way as is done when things are going badly.
 
I'd have to say that they had been going badly for a very long time before I started to comment on here and I must have been amongst the biggest critics of the old Board and the rubbish approach that they had.  There I go again!
 
I am well pleased with the new set up but if we had to be pedantic I feel that when things are not going well up front then we should more quickly introduce Cody MacDonald who is a very different type of player to our other strikers.  Grant Holt is amazing and I must say that Chris Martin has done very well as has Hoolahan which perhaps more than anything illustrates that this could have been his contribution all along.   Lappin too is a useful player and you just have to smile at how seriously misjudged he was by earlier managers including Bryan Gunn.   He would have been better at left back at Charlton than Shackell for instance.   How do you criticise a defence as mean as our has been but there are some problems?    Otsemabor is great going forward with pace but suspect defensively and I also feel that although he has played well of late Doherty is too physical and that is a real problem.  He is not even subtle but as I said he has done well of late.  Michael Nelson has also done better and with Berthel Askou very sound in my view and goes forward well we are OK in this area.
 
I am sure that Paul Lambert is a no nonsense type at the Training Ground and yet comes across so well on TV etc and seems a real gentleman his approach to Paulton before and after the game providing all the evidence that I need to make that comment.  A great guy who could go down as one of City's best but he no doubt has ambition and that is my only worry as far as he is concerned
 
What is happening about Maric and Theo?  The latter was on the bench the other day at Paulton and I feared for us if he had to come on and that must be Paul Lambert's view.   Has he played in the reserves? 
 
Whilst we are far from out of the woods we are doing very nicely but it would be nice to be drawn at home in a Cup competition.  We have had far too many away draws but the law of averages must click in soon if we survive at Southampton and Carlisle. 
 
At left back I am not sure how long Drury has left although he is competent enough at present.  In goal we are very strong now that Forster is here for the rest of the season and is free to play in all matches.  Behind him is the rapidly developing Declan Rudd and Theo who must now feel that he would be best away from Carrow Road.   I look forward to Spillane returning, a most useful player at Central defender or full back, and definitely a real prospect.  Not too sure about Tudor-Jones or Gill they seem easily crocked to me.  Korey Smith has played well as has Adeyemi and Francomb and there are other youngsters who could prove to be good players.  I also like the look of Stephen Hughes.
 
Things are not bad at Norwich City at the moment and I am pleased for our supporters who deserve this upturn. We have a good side and cover which can't be bad.
 
We still have a debt problem and I hope that does not serve to anchor us at our present level there is just the worry that the kitty is presently bare and if we needed a player we couldn't sign one anyway.  
 
I saw my other team Lowestoft Town beat Ryman League One (North) leaders Great Wakersley Rovers 3-0 at Crown Meadow on Tuesday and they have games in hand that could put the Trawler Boys top.  How nice it would be if they could continue to climb at least to Blue Square level. 
 
OTBC   
 
So let's shout it from the roof tops - we are on the way up it seems and may it long continue.
 
Malcolm Vasey
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Allman
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

Now that City are winning, the number of messages seems to have reduced, much the same as the PinkUn message board.  


Perhaps as we have less to complain about, we all have less to say about the state of the nation that is NCFC. Of course it is much easier to write something negative than positive (no finger pointing here at all), it's just the way it is for me.

Looking forward to a day out in Southampton tomorrow – it will be our toughest game for a while, but at least we’ll have a team come and try and play against us as opposed to the way that Tranmere came and parked the bus last Saturday.

Tim

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:14, Marcel <marcel_beren@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

I think it's called "wary contentment for the moment"

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:04, "Peter Dudley " <pdudley1980@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Dunno but it has gone very quiet out there
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#11674 From: Marcel <marcel_beren@...>
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Nice post, Malcolm.

On 20 Nov 2009, at 11:05, "Malcolm Vasey" <vasey.aquarius@...> wrote:

 



It is a pity perhaps that when things are going better we do not feel moved to comment accordingly in the same way as is done when things are going badly.
 
I'd have to say that they had been going badly for a very long time before I started to comment on here and I must have been amongst the biggest critics of the old Board and the rubbish approach that they had.  There I go again!
 
I am well pleased with the new set up but if we had to be pedantic I feel that when things are not going well up front then we should more quickly introduce Cody MacDonald who is a very different type of player to our other strikers.  Grant Holt is amazing and I must say that Chris Martin has done very well as has Hoolahan which perhaps more than anything illustrates that this could have been his contribution all along.   Lappin too is a useful player and you just have to smile at how seriously misjudged he was by earlier managers including Bryan Gunn.   He would have been better at left back at Charlton than Shackell for instance.   How do you criticise a defence as mean as our has been but there are some problems?    Otsemabor is great going forward with pace but suspect defensively and I also feel that although he has played well of late Doherty is too physical and that is a real problem.  He is not even subtle but as I said he has done well of late.  Michael Nelson has also done better and with Berthel Askou very sound in my view and goes forward well we are OK in this area.
 
I am sure that Paul Lambert is a no nonsense type at the Training Ground and yet comes across so well on TV etc and seems a real gentleman his approach to Paulton before and after the game providing all the evidence that I need to make that comment.  A great guy who could go down as one of City's best but he no doubt has ambition and that is my only worry as far as he is concerned
 
What is happening about Maric and Theo?  The latter was on the bench the other day at Paulton and I feared for us if he had to come on and that must be Paul Lambert's view.   Has he played in the reserves? 
 
Whilst we are far from out of the woods we are doing very nicely but it would be nice to be drawn at home in a Cup competition.  We have had far too many away draws but the law of averages must click in soon if we survive at Southampton and Carlisle. 
 
At left back I am not sure how long Drury has left although he is competent enough at present.  In goal we are very strong now that Forster is here for the rest of the season and is free to play in all matches.  Behind him is the rapidly developing Declan Rudd and Theo who must now feel that he would be best away from Carrow Road.   I look forward to Spillane returning, a most useful player at Central defender or full back, and definitely a real prospect.  Not too sure about Tudor-Jones or Gill they seem easily crocked to me.  Korey Smith has played well as has Adeyemi and Francomb and there are other youngsters who could prove to be good players.  I also like the look of Stephen Hughes.
 
Things are not bad at Norwich City at the moment and I am pleased for our supporters who deserve this upturn. We have a good side and cover which can't be bad.
 
We still have a debt problem and I hope that does not serve to anchor us at our present level there is just the worry that the kitty is presently bare and if we needed a player we couldn't sign one anyway.  
 
I saw my other team Lowestoft Town beat Ryman League One (North) leaders Great Wakersley Rovers 3-0 at Crown Meadow on Tuesday and they have games in hand that could put the Trawler Boys top.  How nice it would be if they could continue to climb at least to Blue Square level. 
 
OTBC   
 
So let's shout it from the roof tops - we are on the way up it seems and may it long continue.
 
Malcolm Vasey
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Allman
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

Now that City are winning, the number of messages seems to have reduced, much the same as the PinkUn message board.  


Perhaps as we have less to complain about, we all have less to say about the state of the nation that is NCFC. Of course it is much easier to write something negative than positive (no finger pointing here at all), it's just the way it is for me.

Looking forward to a day out in Southampton tomorrow – it will be our toughest game for a while, but at least we’ll have a team come and try and play against us as opposed to the way that Tranmere came and parked the bus last Saturday.

Tim

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:14, Marcel <marcel_beren@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

I think it's called "wary contentment for the moment"

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:04, "Peter Dudley " <pdudley1980@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Dunno but it has gone very quiet out there
-----Original Message-----
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#11673 From: "Malcolm Vasey" <vasey.aquarius@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:05 am
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It is a pity perhaps that when things are going better we do not feel moved to comment accordingly in the same way as is done when things are going badly.
 
I'd have to say that they had been going badly for a very long time before I started to comment on here and I must have been amongst the biggest critics of the old Board and the rubbish approach that they had.  There I go again!
 
I am well pleased with the new set up but if we had to be pedantic I feel that when things are not going well up front then we should more quickly introduce Cody MacDonald who is a very different type of player to our other strikers.  Grant Holt is amazing and I must say that Chris Martin has done very well as has Hoolahan which perhaps more than anything illustrates that this could have been his contribution all along.   Lappin too is a useful player and you just have to smile at how seriously misjudged he was by earlier managers including Bryan Gunn.   He would have been better at left back at Charlton than Shackell for instance.   How do you criticise a defence as mean as our has been but there are some problems?    Otsemabor is great going forward with pace but suspect defensively and I also feel that although he has played well of late Doherty is too physical and that is a real problem.  He is not even subtle but as I said he has done well of late.  Michael Nelson has also done better and with Berthel Askou very sound in my view and goes forward well we are OK in this area.
 
I am sure that Paul Lambert is a no nonsense type at the Training Ground and yet comes across so well on TV etc and seems a real gentleman his approach to Paulton before and after the game providing all the evidence that I need to make that comment.  A great guy who could go down as one of City's best but he no doubt has ambition and that is my only worry as far as he is concerned
 
What is happening about Maric and Theo?  The latter was on the bench the other day at Paulton and I feared for us if he had to come on and that must be Paul Lambert's view.   Has he played in the reserves? 
 
Whilst we are far from out of the woods we are doing very nicely but it would be nice to be drawn at home in a Cup competition.  We have had far too many away draws but the law of averages must click in soon if we survive at Southampton and Carlisle. 
 
At left back I am not sure how long Drury has left although he is competent enough at present.  In goal we are very strong now that Forster is here for the rest of the season and is free to play in all matches.  Behind him is the rapidly developing Declan Rudd and Theo who must now feel that he would be best away from Carrow Road.   I look forward to Spillane returning, a most useful player at Central defender or full back, and definitely a real prospect.  Not too sure about Tudor-Jones or Gill they seem easily crocked to me.  Korey Smith has played well as has Adeyemi and Francomb and there are other youngsters who could prove to be good players.  I also like the look of Stephen Hughes.
 
Things are not bad at Norwich City at the moment and I am pleased for our supporters who deserve this upturn. We have a good side and cover which can't be bad.
 
We still have a debt problem and I hope that does not serve to anchor us at our present level there is just the worry that the kitty is presently bare and if we needed a player we couldn't sign one anyway.  
 
I saw my other team Lowestoft Town beat Ryman League One (North) leaders Great Wakersley Rovers 3-0 at Crown Meadow on Tuesday and they have games in hand that could put the Trawler Boys top.  How nice it would be if they could continue to climb at least to Blue Square level. 
 
OTBC   
 
So let's shout it from the roof tops - we are on the way up it seems and may it long continue.
 
Malcolm Vasey
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Allman
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

Now that City are winning, the number of messages seems to have reduced, much the same as the PinkUn message board.  


Perhaps as we have less to complain about, we all have less to say about the state of the nation that is NCFC. Of course it is much easier to write something negative than positive (no finger pointing here at all), it's just the way it is for me.

Looking forward to a day out in Southampton tomorrow – it will be our toughest game for a while, but at least we’ll have a team come and try and play against us as opposed to the way that Tranmere came and parked the bus last Saturday.

Tim

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:14, Marcel <marcel_beren@...> wrote:

 

I think it's called "wary contentment for the moment"

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:04, "Peter Dudley " <pdudley1980@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Dunno but it has gone very quiet out there
-----Original Message-----
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Has CN stopped?

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#11672 From: Tim Allman <kentoncanary@...>
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Now that City are winning, the number of messages seems to have reduced, much the same as the PinkUn message board.  


Perhaps as we have less to complain about, we all have less to say about the state of the nation that is NCFC. Of course it is much easier to write something negative than positive (no finger pointing here at all), it's just the way it is for me.

 

Looking forward to a day out in Southampton tomorrow – it will be our toughest game for a while, but at least we’ll have a team come and try and play against us as opposed to the way that Tranmere came and parked the bus last Saturday.

 

Tim

 

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:14, Marcel <marcel_beren@...> wrote:

 

I think it's called "wary contentment for the moment"

On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:04, "Peter Dudley " <pdudley1980@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Dunno but it has gone very quiet out there
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#11671 From: Marcel <marcel_beren@...>
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I think it's called "wary contentment for the moment"

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Dunno but it has gone very quiet out there
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Has CN stopped?

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#11670 From: "Peter Dudley " <pdudley1980@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:04 am
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Dunno but it has gone very quiet out there
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Has CN stopped?

Brian

#11669 From: "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:40 am
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Has CN stopped?
 
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#11668 From: "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:51 pm
Subject: Re: tranmere gave live on the net?
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Cant even go to the reserve games now, nor any school kids or working supporters.
With the new weekday kick off at 2pm for all reserve games they mite as well play them behind closed doors.
Brian
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#11666 From: "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@...>
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The Prem have kicked out the proposal to have Rangers and Celtic join them.
Lets hope the Prem also kick out the proposal to have two Prem leagues.
Brian
 

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Thanks Matt. For others, the details are as follows:

Saturday 28 November 2009
Carlisle United or Morecambe v Norwich City
5.15pm, Live on www.TheFA.com

In case you can't make it to the game of course! MLS



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#11663 From: "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@...>
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IF that's what the drivers are on then the management will be on 3 or 4 times more and not working weekends. Life can be a real bitch when you don't ever get your hands dirty.
Brian
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Management 'blame' them because they believe the unions are under the same 'statutory duty' as them to guarantee there are always enough staff to run full services.

Union officials, on the other hand, claim refusing overtime is a 'contractual right' and does not therefore constitute official strike action (the only way you can legitimately break a statutory duty) .

I make no claim to know who is right in law, but IMHO 38,000 average pay for a 35 hr week (up to 70k with overtime) + 100% final salary pension is a well cushty number and I have no sympathy. But then I'm a crazed Ayn Rand worshiper and the sort of person ASLEF officials would cheerfully sling in a Cuban jail.



To: CN@yahoogroups.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:13:13 +0000
Subject: Re: [CN] JPT

 
Stupid way to run a company. How can they blame the drivers for not working a non-rostered shift but rely on overtime volunteers.


--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tim Allman <kentoncanary@gmail.com> wrote:

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Subject: Re: [CN] JPT
To: "CN@yahoogroups.com" <CN@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 9:31

 
The "strikes" relate to Sunday rotas where drivers volunteered for overtime. They are now not volunteering for overtime which means no or less trains, but as far as I am aware this will have no effect on Saturday travel.

Cheers
Tim

On 11 Nov 2009, at 08:52, Matt Wenn <mwenn@tiscali. co.uk> wrote:

 
I may be coming Saturday - but one question - is there strikes planned
on the trains between London and Cambridge that day?

Peter Dudley wrote:
> We have fabulous fans don't we and btw do you capital canaries meet up before games still as I will be gracing carrow road with my presence on sat?
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#11662 From: Jez Booker <jezbooker@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:15 pm
Subject: RE: JPT
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Management 'blame' them because they believe the unions are under the same 'statutory duty' as them to guarantee there are always enough staff to run full services.

Union officials, on the other hand, claim refusing overtime is a 'contractual right' and does not therefore constitute official strike action (the only way you can legitimately break a statutory duty) .

I make no claim to know who is right in law, but IMHO 38,000 average pay for a 35 hr week (up to 70k with overtime) + 100% final salary pension is a well cushty number and I have no sympathy. But then I'm a crazed Ayn Rand worshiper and the sort of person ASLEF officials would cheerfully sling in a Cuban jail.



To: CN@yahoogroups.com
From: zoesveryhappy@...
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:13:13 +0000
Subject: Re: [CN] JPT

 
Stupid way to run a company. How can they blame the drivers for not working a non-rostered shift but rely on overtime volunteers.


--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tim Allman <kentoncanary@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tim Allman <kentoncanary@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CN] JPT
To: "CN@yahoogroups.com" <CN@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 9:31

 
The "strikes" relate to Sunday rotas where drivers volunteered for overtime. They are now not volunteering for overtime which means no or less trains, but as far as I am aware this will have no effect on Saturday travel.

Cheers
Tim

On 11 Nov 2009, at 08:52, Matt Wenn <mwenn@tiscali. co.uk> wrote:

 
I may be coming Saturday - but one question - is there strikes planned
on the trains between London and Cambridge that day?

Peter Dudley wrote:
> We have fabulous fans don't we and btw do you capital canaries meet up before games still as I will be gracing carrow road with my presence on sat?
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#11661 From: Zoe Fail <zoesveryhappy@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:13 pm
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Stupid way to run a company. How can they blame the drivers for not working a non-rostered shift but rely on overtime volunteers.


--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tim Allman <kentoncanary@...> wrote:

From: Tim Allman <kentoncanary@...>
Subject: Re: [CN] JPT
To: "CN@yahoogroups.com" <CN@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 9:31

 
The "strikes" relate to Sunday rotas where drivers volunteered for overtime. They are now not volunteering for overtime which means no or less trains, but as far as I am aware this will have no effect on Saturday travel.

Cheers
Tim

On 11 Nov 2009, at 08:52, Matt Wenn <mwenn@tiscali. co.uk> wrote:

 
I may be coming Saturday - but one question - is there strikes planned
on the trains between London and Cambridge that day?

Peter Dudley wrote:
> We have fabulous fans don't we and btw do you capital canaries meet up before games still as I will be gracing carrow road with my presence on sat?
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#11660 From: Zoe Fail <zoesveryhappy@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:11 pm
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Roll out the red carpet. Matt & Pete gracing Carrow Road with their presence

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Matt Wenn <mwenn@...> wrote:

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Subject: Re: [CN] JPT
To: CN@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 8:52

 
I may be coming Saturday - but one question - is there strikes planned
on the trains between London and Cambridge that day?

Peter Dudley wrote:
> We have fabulous fans don't we and btw do you capital canaries meet up before games still as I will be gracing carrow road with my presence on sat?
> -----Original Message-----
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> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:54:26
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> Subject: [CN] JPT
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> Good tactics making subs before 90 mins up to get expereince on the pitch. Glad to see this result - we can do penalties.
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#11659 From: Zoe Fail <zoesveryhappy@...>
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Some of us will be in The Nelson for lunch. Others go to Wetherspoons on Riverside, Coach & Horses still frequented by some.

--- On Tue, 10/11/09, Peter Dudley <pdudley1980@...> wrote:

From: Peter Dudley <pdudley1980@...>
Subject: Re: [CN] JPT
To: "cn@yahoogroups.com " <cn@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 21:59

We have fabulous fans don't we and btw do you capital canaries meet up before games still as I will be gracing carrow road with my presence on sat?
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Followed this through pink un live coverage on-line. Penalties rather exciting but rest wasn't much to read.
 
Great result lads. Bring on a home fixture for the semis - OTBC! :o)
Good tactics making subs before 90 mins up to get expereince on the pitch. Glad to see this result - we can do penalties.
 
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#11658 From: Zoe Fail <zoesveryhappy@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:59 pm
Subject: RE: New Chairman
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What about those of us who don't smoke cigars? lol

--- On Tue, 10/11/09, Hilton, Mark <Mark.Hilton@...> wrote:

From: Hilton, Mark <Mark.Hilton@...>
Subject: RE: [CN]New Chairman
To: CN@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 14:52

 

Ah now that would be a good dream to come true – cigars all round on that front!

 


From: CN@yahoogroups. com [mailto:CN@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Vasey
Sent: 10 November 2009 14:47
To: CN@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman

 

 

Realistically the date could be so that they can enjoy the praise of the supporters for the signings that they enabled Paul Lambert to make during the Transfer Window and for hanging on to our best players despite world wide attention.

 

Oh well, we can all dream!

 

Malcolm Vasey

----- Original Message -----

From: Hilton, Mark

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:40 PM

Subject: RE: [CN]New Chairman

 

The interesting thing is the timing of the “real” AGM – 2 February.  Two days after the transfer window closes.  So, is the delay because:

a)                   The Board don’t want anyone to know how much cash we have thus increasing the price of anyone we want to buy; or

b)                   The Board don’t want anyone to know how little money we have thus decreasing the price we can achieve from any sale!

 

Either way, the timing of the “real” AGM implies to me it is not about issues over going concern taking approval of the accounts up to the wire (the date of the AGM would have been much closer to 28 February then!), but canniness whichever of a) or b) it is above by the New Board!

 

Or what?

 


From: CN@yahoogroups. com [mailto:CN@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Burrell
Sent: 10 November 2009 14:01
To: CN@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman

 

 

The clubs ambition with prudence policy could have been a good one but the ambition off the pitch was far more than it should have been and on the pitch prudence went too deep for too long, the decision makers at the time just got the balance wrong and we are now paying for it.

Brian 

----- Original Message -----

From: Alan clark

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:19 AM

Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman

 

 

Sorry ian, but anytime you want a game of poker, let me know! If you think ambition with prudence is a given, then that is a very straight forward narrow blinkered point of view...There are or in my opinion,should be degrees of prudence,and many a team,some great, have built their status on educated gambling,edging away from restricted prudence...So if you think ambition with prudence is " a statement of the bleeding obvious", playing poker with you would be a massive payday for me (as soon as you do raise your stake,it will be bleeding obvious you have a hand) ...... ps yes i know some teams have gone bust as well..It depends on varibles, who was in charge,who they bought,the time of gambling ie in a low position with low team spirit,or riding high or during a summer break..and that other varible factor...Luck!  But you try to hedge the odds of success by the type of money you spend on the type of player.Like gambling.if a good team plays a non league, then the best way to get a return(apart from beting on the non league team ,which is wild gambling), is to look at the scorelines and spread the bets with low outlays on the less obvious and then small increments on each bet till you reach the obvious scoreline ... 3 clear goals 5/1 £5 #### 4 clear goals 13/2 £4 ### 5 clear goals 8/1 £2 #### 6 clear goals 10/1 £2 ... All will result in a profit, but you cannot cover every eventuality so now and again you will come a cropper..

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:44 AM

Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman

 

 

Sorry I assumed it was a serious remark - it certainly didn't seem very 'flip'
to me. Perhaps you could flag up which remarks are serious discussion and
which aren't, then we can all ignore the 'flip' ones? (I'll assume the stupid
jibe about noticing we're in League 1 was 'flip' as well?).

The policy of ambition with prudence (which hardly deserves to be called a
policy it's so much a statement of the bleeding obvious - a bit like
saying 'my policy is to continue breathing') was not 'a smokescreen' for
anything. And the investment in infrastructure was either required (e.g. South
Stand) or produces income for the club (catering, hotel, NU fill-in). And the
money couldn't have been spent on players because nobody would have lent it to
us for that purpose.

Quoting Malcolm Vasey <vasey.aquarius@ virgin.net>:

> It was a flip remark and the policy was only a smoke screen for not buying
> players whilst infrastructure work went on. That's why we are now in League
> One or hadn't you noticed.
>
> Everything requires a degree of prudence we had rather too much.
>
> Malcolm Vasey
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ianstamp@ukonline. co.uk>
> To: <CN@yahoogroups. com>
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman
>
>
> > How anybody can argue against a policy of ambition with prudence I really
> > don't know. Which of the two is the problem? Ambition? - surely we all
> > need
> > some of that? Prudence? - what's the alternative, recklessness? !
> >
> > But then I suppose it's possible to oppose anything if you willfully
> > misrepresent it!
> >
> > Quoting Malcolm Vasey <vasey.aquarius@ virgin.net>:
> >
> >> Ok Marcel I think more recent events have started top prove the case
> >> against
> >> "ambition with prudence" which is another way of saying we are nor
> >> spending
> >> money on players but infrastructure instead.
> >>
> >> They forgot what a Football Club is for. Mr Bowkett and Mr McNally have
> >> jogged the memories of a few people. We hit Ground Zero on 8th August
> >> and
> >> we are still in the basement but at least we are trying to find a way
> >> out.
> >>
> >> Malcolm Vasey
> >>
> >>
> >> Malcolm Vasey
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Marcel
> >> To: CN@yahoogroups. com
> >> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:27 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> <puzzled>
> >> I was talking about the current chairman, not previous ones
> >>
> >> On 9 Nov 2009, at 11:47, "Malcolm Vasey" <vasey.aquarius@ virgin.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> When did we ever previously have any of that. You have to go back
> >> to
> >> Sir Arthur South or Geoffrey Watling to even consider the word good.
> >>
> >> When was the good PR? Not from Munby the Woodbine man.
> >>
> >> Malcolm Vasey
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Marcel
> >> To: CN@yahoogroups. com
> >> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:33 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman
> >>
> >>
> >> I'll happily take a good chairman with bad pr skills over the
> >> opposite
> >> situation
> >>
> >> On 9 Nov 2009, at 11:25, "Alan clark" <clark.alan3@ sky.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Just read it(been out of action for a couple of weeks),and
> >> looking at
> >> his answers without an agenda,he has ben very open and informative! ....
> >> The
> >> only worry i get from him is lack of warmth to the fans..he seems to come
> >> across like a strict school teacher...This may alienate certain people in
>
> >> the
> >> future,like how the ips manger alienates himself from the media..
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: MLS
> >> To: CN@yahoogroups. com
> >> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:32 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Well, he may not have answered your question Brian, but his
> >> other
> >> answers were quite informative and I'm sure you appreciated the
> >> sentiments he
> >> expressed when he said he felt the Club hadn't been focused on the
> >> football
> >> side in recent years! MLS
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/11/6 Brian Burrell <bwburrell@btinterne t.com>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Just found this on line.
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.edp24. co.uk/content/ edp24/sport/ story.aspx?
> >
>
brand=EDPOnline& category= Sport&tBrand= EDPOnline& tCategory= xDefault& itemid=NOED2
> > 7%20Oct%202009% 2011%3A13% 3A43%3A207
> >>
> >> And still no answer to the question. What a waste of time.
> >> Brian
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Hilton, Mark
> >> To: CN@yahoogroups. com
> >> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:32 AM
> >> Subject: RE: [CN]New Chairman
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good question BBFF, but never answered!
> >>
> >> Sent from my O2 Xda Ignito
> >>
> >> Mark Hilton
> >> Director of Finance & Resources
> >>
> >> Museums Sheffield
> >> Leader House, Surrey Street , Sheffield , S1 2LH
> >> Tel: 0114 278 2609
> >> Mob: 0773 408 0422
> >> Fax: 0114 278 2604
> >> Email: mark.hilton@ museums-sheffiel d.org.uk
> >> Web: http://www.museums- sheffield. org.uk/
> >>
> >> Can Art Save Us?
> >> 22 October 2009 - 31 January 2010
> >> Museums Sheffield : Millennium Gallery
> >>
> >> http://www.facebook .com/pages/ Museums-Sheffiel d/114472270491
> >> Company Registration No. 3527746 & Registered Charity No.
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> >> and
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> >>
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> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >> From: Tim Allman <kentoncanary@ gmail.com>
> >> Sent: 01 November 2009 11:30
> >> To: CN@yahoogroups. com <CN@yahoogroups. com>
> >> Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman
> >>
> >> Here it is Brian,
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.pinkun. com/content/ pinkun/norwich- city/story. aspx?
> >
>
brand=PINKUNOnline& category= Norwich &tBrand= PINKUNOnline& tCategory= xDefault& item
> > id=NOED27%20Oct% 202009%2011% 3A13%3A43% 3A207
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> 2009/11/1 Brian Burrell <bwburrell@btinterne t.com>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > Has the new chairman done his on-line Q & A thing on the
> >> Pinkin site yet?
> >> > Brian
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > *From:* Malcolm Vasey <vasey.aquarius@ virgin.net>
> >> > *To:* CN@yahoogroups. com
> >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:42 PM
> >> > *Subject:* Re: [CN]New Chairman
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > It seems that our new Chairman did not like the way that
> >> Neil
> >> Doncaster was
> >> > running the Club!!!!
> >> >
> >> > I don't often have too much in common with NCFC Chairmen.
> >> >
> >> > Good on yer Mr Bowkett.
> >> >
> >> > Malcolm Vasey
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > *From:* Alan clark <clark.alan3@ sky.com>
> >> > *To:* CN@yahoogroups. com
> >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:13 PM
> >> > *Subject:* Re: [CN] Budget
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > Exactly, he will probably be doing a `bulk n weight
> >> protien`
> >> program next
> >> > summer,so we may see stronger challanges from him next
> >> and
> >> more likely the
> >> > season after, to go with the talent and forsight he is
> >> showing...
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > *From:* Tim Allman <kentoncanary@ gmail.com>
> >> > *To:* CN@yahoogroups. com
> >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:29 PM
> >> > *Subject:* Re: [CN] Budget
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I thought Francomb played well on Saturday, but as he
> >> rarely
> >> had anyone
> >> > challenging him when he went forward it was difficult for
>
> >> him
> >> not to look
> >> > good. He did make one error of Semmy-esque proportions
> >> which
> >> we got away
> >> > with. Their diamond formation was a direct match up
> >> against
> >> Norwich , but
> >> > with a much less effective player as the focal point
> >> (McNamee
> >> vs Hoolahan)
> >> > so less width in the midfield and more space down the
> >> sides
> >> which we
> >> > exploited.
> >> >
> >> > I was amazed that Swindon had not done their homework and
>
> >> put
> >> a stronger
> >> > player against him (maybe McNamee) as Francomb may well
> >> struggle against a
> >> > bigger opponent.
> >> >
> >> > I also saw Francomb at Gillingham where after a nervous
> >> start
> >> he looked a
> >> > tidy player, but was muscled out of it on a few
> >> occasions.
> >> >
> >> > But - If I had a choice Iâ?Td still stick with Francomb
> >> if it
> >> meant that
> >> > Korey Smith didnâ?Tt have to drop to right back.
> >> >
> >> > Tim
> >> >
> >> > On 27 Oct 2009, at 15:23, "Alan clark"
> >> <clark.alan3@ sky.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > I think Francomb is on a learning curve,like smith/ady
> >> etc,
> >> but is probably
> >> > a little way down the curve (hasnt reached the inflexion
> >> point),than the
> >> > others..But i do think malcom is right,he is a great
> >> prospect
> >> as he has
> >> > shown glimpses of his ability to read a pass and
> >> intercept,plus his
> >> > willingness to go forward and support smithy again shows
> >> he
> >> knows what is
> >> > expected of a modern fullback...It has taken martin up
> >> front,a little while
> >> > to understand the importance of tracking back as part of
> >> his
> >> job...Francombe
> >> > needs to beef up though,which will take time....
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > *From:* MLS <mls11x@googlemail. com>
> >> > *To:* CN@yahoogroups. com
> >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:18 AM
> >> > *Subject:* Re: [CN] Budget
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sorry, but Francomb was way out of his depth on Saturday
> >> and
> >> I wasn't at
> >> > all surprised he was replaced at half time. My fingers
> >> are
> >> crossed that
> >> > Spillane recovers quickly as I've not been impressed with
> >> Otsemobor's
> >> > concentration levels so far, and Smith is not a fullback
> >> and
> >> has to rely on
> >> > speed to recover his position too often. MLS
> >> >
> >> > 2009/10/26 Malcolm Vasey
> >> <vasey.aquarius@ virgin.net<vasey.aquarius@ virgin.net>
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 
> >> >> We have got three right sided full backs and Lambert's
> >> offer
> >> to Exeter may
> >> >> have been before the impressive displays by first
> >> Spillane
> >> and then Francomb
> >> >> who would appear to be a great prospect. It may also
> >> have
> >> been at the
> >> >> time when PL was remembering that opening goal of the
> >> Colchester seven. We
> >> >> also have used Smith at right back but that is a waste
> >> of
> >> his talents in my
> >> >> view. Incidentally, Lambert is quoted as saying that we
> >> are
> >> short of funds
> >> >> because the pot was emptied due to last season's loans
> >> policy!!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Looking ahead to Paulton I hope that the match is on TV
> >> that
> >> weekend
> >> >> wherever it is held. Norwich should have too much class
> >> for
> >> the minnows
> >> >> from Somerset but cannot relax in what will be a white
> >> hot
> >> arena especially
> >> >> if its at Paulton's own ground. I would love to see us
> >> have
> >> a decent Cup
> >> >> run. Roeder's selection errors cost us at Bury two years
>
> >> ago
> >> and we never
> >> >> seem to get going in the FA Cup these days.
> >> >>
> >> >> Malcolm Vasey
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> *From:* Alan clark <clark.alan3@ sky.com>
> >> >> *To:* CN@yahoogroups. com
> >> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2009 10:49 AM
> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [CN] Budget
> >> >>
> >> >> 
> >> >> From what i gather, it was 1 prime player, an exeter
> >> fullback..but
> >> >> depending on the standpoint, we didnt match their
> >> valuation
> >> or they thought
> >> >> they could bumb up the price,as we are considerd a big
> >> fish... I think our
> >> >> squad is large, and although the right back place has
> >> been
> >> weakend with
> >> >> injuries, we have coped so it was not a situation(sounds
> >> better with a
> >> >> scottish accent that word), where we had to accept the
> >> offer
> >> as we were
> >> >> desperate... when hucks/crouch( surely "stretch" wouldve
> >> been
> >> more apt) and
> >> >> the winger from pompey , were needed,its was getting
> >> dire
> >> with a deplated
> >> >> squad...
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> *From:* Marcel <marcel_beren@ yahoo.com>
> >> >> *To:* CN@yahoogroups. com
> >> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2009 9:51 AM
> >> >> *Subject:* [CN] Budget
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I've seen some press coverage that lamberts been after
> >> some
> >> players but
> >> >> can't afford them - it seems the coffers are empty.
> >> >>
> >> >> When we were last in a comparable position (looking like
>
> >> we
> >> could mount a
> >> >> good promotion bid although I think a bit later in the
> >> season) the board
> >> >> approved the loan signings of Hucks, Crouch and Harper
> >> (iirc) which mustve
> >> >> blown the budget, but proved astute.
> >> >> I hope they'll find some elbow room for PL, but I'm not
> >> overly optimistic.
> >> >>
> >> >> Otherwise, looking at the squad, I think the only
> >> wriggle
> >> space PL can
> >> >> find for himself financially *without damaging quality*
> >> would be, IMHO,
> >> >> losing Cureton. Not sure we'd get much of a fee, but he
> >> must
> >> be on good
> >> >> money (which these days often greatly outweighs fees)
> >> and
> >> we're fairly well
> >> >> covered with strikers at or above his ability level.
> >> >>
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> >> >>
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#11657 From: Tim Allman <kentoncanary@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:31 am
Subject: Re: JPT
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The "strikes" relate to Sunday rotas where drivers volunteered for overtime. They are now not volunteering for overtime which means no or less trains, but as far as I am aware this will have no effect on Saturday travel.

Cheers
Tim

On 11 Nov 2009, at 08:52, Matt Wenn <mwenn@...> wrote:

 

I may be coming Saturday - but one question - is there strikes planned
on the trains between London and Cambridge that day?

Peter Dudley wrote:
> We have fabulous fans don't we and btw do you capital canaries meet up before games still as I will be gracing carrow road with my presence on sat?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zoe Fail <zoesveryhappy@yahoo.co.uk>
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:54:26
> To: <cn@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [CN] JPT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Followed this through pink un live coverage on-line. Penalties rather exciting but rest wasn't much to read.
>
> Great result lads. Bring on a home fixture for the semis - OTBC! :o)
> Good tactics making subs before 90 mins up to get expereince on the pitch. Glad to see this result - we can do penalties.
>
> Sounds like good attendance from us too 848 apparently
>
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#11656 From: Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:52 am
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I may be coming Saturday - but one question - is there strikes planned
on the trains between London and Cambridge that day?

Peter Dudley wrote:
> We have fabulous fans don't we and btw do you capital canaries meet up before
games still as I will be gracing carrow road with my presence on sat?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zoe Fail <zoesveryhappy@...>
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:54:26
> To: <cn@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [CN] JPT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Followed this through pink un live coverage on-line. Penalties rather exciting
but rest wasn't much to read.
>
> Great result lads. Bring on a home fixture for the semis - OTBC! :o)
> Good tactics making subs before 90 mins up to get expereince on the pitch.
Glad to see this result - we can do penalties.
>
> Sounds like good attendance from us too 848 apparently
>
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#11655 From: Tim Allman <kentoncanary@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:28 am
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There were 884 fans there last night. An amazing turn out. It was not
the greatest game in the world (being very kind here).

I won't dwell on individual performances as there were one or two
shockers, but praise the defensive organisation of the team,
especially in the second half when the ball was just coming back to us
for the last fifteen minutes. Something they've been practising on the
training ground has been working.

The penalties were all expertly put away, though Hughes' one just
evaded the keeper.

This was the second time in a week that I have seen the Canaries win a
penalty shoot out!

And I had a quick chat to Mick Dennis before the match, (on the mail
list), who was there with Mrs D.

Tim


2009/11/10 Peter Dudley <pdudley1980@...>:
> We have fabulous fans don't we and btw do you capital canaries meet up before
games still as I will be gracing carrow road with my presence on sat?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zoe Fail <zoesveryhappy@...>
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:54:26
> To: <cn@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [CN] JPT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Followed this through pink un live coverage on-line. Penalties rather exciting
but rest wasn't much to read.
>
> Great result lads. Bring on a home fixture for the semis - OTBC! :o)
> Good tactics making subs before 90 mins up to get expereince on the pitch.
Glad to see this result - we can do penalties.
>
> Sounds like good attendance from us too 848 apparently
>
>
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#11654 From: "Peter Dudley " <pdudley1980@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:59 pm
Subject: Re: JPT
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We have fabulous fans don't we and btw do you capital canaries meet up before
games still as I will be gracing carrow road with my presence on sat?
-----Original Message-----
From: Zoe Fail <zoesveryhappy@...>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:54:26
To: <cn@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [CN] JPT







Followed this through pink un live coverage on-line. Penalties rather exciting
but rest wasn't much to read.

Great result lads. Bring on a home fixture for the semis - OTBC! :o)
Good tactics making subs before 90 mins up to get expereince on the pitch. Glad
to see this result - we can do penalties.

Sounds like good attendance from us too 848 apparently

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