----- Original Message -----

From: Hilton, Mark

To: CN@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:53 PM

Subject: RE: [CN]New Chairman

 

 

Nothing pathetic about getting “slaughtered” in Yorkshire – I do that most weekend nights whether the yellows win or lose – always tastes better when they win!

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From: CN@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CN@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan clark
Sent: 10 November 2009 15:45
To: CN@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman

 

:) Though the scots wasnt really involved, unless you count her uncle david brother of her mum edith(though had to take name of maltida) and his pathetic support at the battle of the standard in 38, yorkshire,where he was slaughtered.. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Hilton, Mark

To: CN@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:53 PM

Subject: RE: [CN]New Chairman

 

Now that would be stretching it to think that a Scottish CEO would want to celebrate something like that – unless there’s a recipe connected to it!

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From: CN@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CN@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan clark
Sent: 10 November 2009 14:49
To: CN@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman

 

Perhaps they just wanted to coincide with the anniversary of the battle of lincoln when maltida captured stephen? :)

----- Original Message -----

From: Hilton, Mark

To: CN@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:40 PM

Subject: RE: [CN]New Chairman

 

The interesting thing is the timing of the “real” AGM – 2 February.  Two days after the transfer window closes.  So, is the delay because:

a)                   The Board don’t want anyone to know how much cash we have thus increasing the price of anyone we want to buy; or

b)                   The Board don’t want anyone to know how little money we have thus decreasing the price we can achieve from any sale!

Either way, the timing of the “real” AGM implies to me it is not about issues over going concern taking approval of the accounts up to the wire (the date of the AGM would have been much closer to 28 February then!), but canniness whichever of a) or b) it is above by the New Board!

Or what?

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From: CN@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CN@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Burrell
Sent: 10 November 2009 14:01
To: CN@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman

 

The clubs ambition with prudence policy could have been a good one but the ambition off the pitch was far more than it should have been and on the pitch prudence went too deep for too long, the decision makers at the time just got the balance wrong and we are now paying for it.

Brian 

----- Original Message -----

From: Alan clark

To: CN@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:19 AM

Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman

 

Sorry ian, but anytime you want a game of poker, let me know! If you think ambition with prudence is a given, then that is a very straight forward narrow blinkered point of view...There are or in my opinion,should be degrees of prudence,and many a team,some great, have built their status on educated gambling,edging away from restricted prudence...So if you think ambition with prudence is " a statement of the bleeding obvious", playing poker with you would be a massive payday for me (as soon as you do raise your stake,it will be bleeding obvious you have a hand) ...... ps yes i know some teams have gone bust as well..It depends on varibles, who was in charge,who they bought,the time of gambling ie in a low position with low team spirit,or riding high or during a summer break..and that other varible factor...Luck!  But you try to hedge the odds of success by the type of money you spend on the type of player.Like gambling.if a good team plays a non league, then the best way to get a return(apart from beting on the non league team ,which is wild gambling), is to look at the scorelines and spread the bets with low outlays on the less obvious and then small increments on each bet till you reach the obvious scoreline ... 3 clear goals 5/1 £5 #### 4 clear goals 13/2 £4 ### 5 clear goals 8/1 £2 #### 6 clear goals 10/1 £2 ... All will result in a profit, but you cannot cover every eventuality so now and again you will come a cropper..

----- Original Message -----

From: ianstamp@ukonline.co.uk

To: CN@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:44 AM

Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman

 

Sorry I assumed it was a serious remark - it certainly didn't seem very 'flip'
to me. Perhaps you could flag up which remarks are serious discussion and
which aren't, then we can all ignore the 'flip' ones? (I'll assume the stupid
jibe about noticing we're in League 1 was 'flip' as well?).

The policy of ambition with prudence (which hardly deserves to be called a
policy it's so much a statement of the bleeding obvious - a bit like
saying 'my policy is to continue breathing') was not 'a smokescreen' for
anything. And the investment in infrastructure was either required (e.g. South
Stand) or produces income for the club (catering, hotel, NU fill-in). And the
money couldn't have been spent on players because nobody would have lent it to
us for that purpose.

Quoting Malcolm Vasey <vasey.aquarius@virgin.net>:

> It was a flip remark and the policy was only a smoke screen for not buying
> players whilst infrastructure work went on. That's why we are now in League
> One or hadn't you noticed.
>
> Everything requires a degree of prudence we had rather too much.
>
> Malcolm Vasey
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ianstamp@ukonline.co.uk>
> To: <CN@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman
>
>
> > How anybody can argue against a policy of ambition with prudence I really
> > don't know. Which of the two is the problem? Ambition? - surely we all
> > need
> > some of that? Prudence? - what's the alternative, recklessness?!
> >
> > But then I suppose it's possible to oppose anything if you willfully
> > misrepresent it!
> >
> > Quoting Malcolm Vasey <vasey.aquarius@virgin.net>:
> >
> >> Ok Marcel I think more recent events have started top prove the case
> >> against
> >> "ambition with prudence" which is another way of saying we are nor
> >> spending
> >> money on players but infrastructure instead.
> >>
> >> They forgot what a Football Club is for. Mr Bowkett and Mr McNally have
> >> jogged the memories of a few people. We hit Ground Zero on 8th August
> >> and
> >> we are still in the basement but at least we are trying to find a way
> >> out.
> >>
> >> Malcolm Vasey
> >>
> >>
> >> Malcolm Vasey
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Marcel
> >> To: CN@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:27 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> <puzzled>
> >> I was talking about the current chairman, not previous ones
> >>
> >> On 9 Nov 2009, at 11:47, "Malcolm Vasey" <vasey.aquarius@virgin.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> When did we ever previously have any of that. You have to go back
> >> to
> >> Sir Arthur South or Geoffrey Watling to even consider the word good.
> >>
> >> When was the good PR? Not from Munby the Woodbine man.
> >>
> >> Malcolm Vasey
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Marcel
> >> To: CN@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:33 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman
> >>
> >>
> >> I'll happily take a good chairman with bad pr skills over the
> >> opposite
> >> situation
> >>
> >> On 9 Nov 2009, at 11:25, "Alan clark" <clark.alan3@sky.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Just read it(been out of action for a couple of weeks),and
> >> looking at
> >> his answers without an agenda,he has ben very open and informative! ....
> >> The
> >> only worry i get from him is lack of warmth to the fans..he seems to come
> >> across like a strict school teacher...This may alienate certain people in
>
> >> the
> >> future,like how the ips manger alienates himself from the media..
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: MLS
> >> To: CN@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:32 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Well, he may not have answered your question Brian, but his
> >> other
> >> answers were quite informative and I'm sure you appreciated the
> >> sentiments he
> >> expressed when he said he felt the Club hadn't been focused on the
> >> football
> >> side in recent years! MLS
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/11/6 Brian Burrell <bwburrell@btinternet.com>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Just found this on line.
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.edp24.co.uk/content/edp24/sport/story.aspx?
> >
>
brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=xDefault&itemid=NOED2
> > 7%20Oct%202009%2011%3A13%3A43%3A207
> >>
> >> And still no answer to the question. What a waste of time.
> >> Brian
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Hilton, Mark
> >> To: CN@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:32 AM
> >> Subject: RE: [CN]New Chairman
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good question BBFF, but never answered!
> >>
> >> Sent from my O2 Xda Ignito
> >>
> >> Mark Hilton
> >> Director of Finance & Resources
> >>
> >> Museums Sheffield
> >> Leader House, Surrey Street, Sheffield, S1 2LH
> >> Tel: 0114 278 2609
> >> Mob: 0773 408 0422
> >> Fax: 0114 278 2604
> >> Email: mark.hilton@museums-sheffield.org.uk
> >> Web: http://www.museums-sheffield.org.uk/
> >>
> >> Can Art Save Us?
> >> 22 October 2009 - 31 January 2010
> >> Museums Sheffield: Millennium Gallery
> >>
> >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Museums-Sheffield/114472270491
> >> Company Registration No. 3527746 & Registered Charity No.
> >> 1066850 as Sheffield Galleries & Museums Trust
> >> Registered Office: Riverside East, 2 Millsands, Sheffield,
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> >> 8DT
> >>
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> >>
> >> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >> From: Tim Allman <kentoncanary@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: 01 November 2009 11:30
> >> To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [CN]New Chairman
> >>
> >> Here it is Brian,
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.pinkun.com/content/pinkun/norwich-city/story.aspx?
> >
>
brand=PINKUNOnline&category=Norwich&tBrand=PINKUNOnline&tCategory=xDefault&item
> > id=NOED27%20Oct%202009%2011%3A13%3A43%3A207
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> 2009/11/1 Brian Burrell <bwburrell@btinternet.com>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > Has the new chairman done his on-line Q & A thing on the
> >> Pinkin site yet?
> >> > Brian
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > *From:* Malcolm Vasey <vasey.aquarius@virgin.net>
> >> > *To:* CN@yahoogroups.com
> >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:42 PM
> >> > *Subject:* Re: [CN]New Chairman
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > It seems that our new Chairman did not like the way that
> >> Neil
> >> Doncaster was
> >> > running the Club!!!!
> >> >
> >> > I don't often have too much in common with NCFC Chairmen.
> >> >
> >> > Good on yer Mr Bowkett.
> >> >
> >> > Malcolm Vasey
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > *From:* Alan clark <clark.alan3@sky.com>
> >> > *To:* CN@yahoogroups.com
> >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:13 PM
> >> > *Subject:* Re: [CN] Budget
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > Exactly, he will probably be doing a `bulk n weight
> >> protien`
> >> program next
> >> > summer,so we may see stronger challanges from him next
> >> and
> >> more likely the
> >> > season after, to go with the talent and forsight he is
> >> showing...
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > *From:* Tim Allman <kentoncanary@gmail.com>
> >> > *To:* CN@yahoogroups.com
> >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:29 PM
> >> > *Subject:* Re: [CN] Budget
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I thought Francomb played well on Saturday, but as he
> >> rarely
> >> had anyone
> >> > challenging him when he went forward it was difficult for
>
> >> him
> >> not to look
> >> > good. He did make one error of Semmy-esque proportions
> >> which
> >> we got away
> >> > with. Their diamond formation was a direct match up
> >> against
> >> Norwich, but
> >> > with a much less effective player as the focal point
> >> (McNamee
> >> vs Hoolahan)
> >> > so less width in the midfield and more space down the
> >> sides
> >> which we
> >> > exploited.
> >> >
> >> > I was amazed that Swindon had not done their homework and
>
> >> put
> >> a stronger
> >> > player against him (maybe McNamee) as Francomb may well
> >> struggle against a
> >> > bigger opponent.
> >> >
> >> > I also saw Francomb at Gillingham where after a nervous
> >> start
> >> he looked a
> >> > tidy player, but was muscled out of it on a few
> >> occasions.
> >> >
> >> > But - If I had a choice Iâ?Td still stick with Francomb
> >> if it
> >> meant that
> >> > Korey Smith didnâ?Tt have to drop to right back.
> >> >
> >> > Tim
> >> >
> >> > On 27 Oct 2009, at 15:23, "Alan clark"
> >> <clark.alan3@sky.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > I think Francomb is on a learning curve,like smith/ady
> >> etc,
> >> but is probably
> >> > a little way down the curve (hasnt reached the inflexion
> >> point),than the
> >> > others..But i do think malcom is right,he is a great
> >> prospect
> >> as he has
> >> > shown glimpses of his ability to read a pass and
> >> intercept,plus his
> >> > willingness to go forward and support smithy again shows
> >> he
> >> knows what is
> >> > expected of a modern fullback...It has taken martin up
> >> front,a little while
> >> > to understand the importance of tracking back as part of
> >> his
> >> job...Francombe
> >> > needs to beef up though,which will take time....
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > *From:* MLS <mls11x@googlemail.com>
> >> > *To:* CN@yahoogroups.com
> >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:18 AM
> >> > *Subject:* Re: [CN] Budget
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sorry, but Francomb was way out of his depth on Saturday
> >> and
> >> I wasn't at
> >> > all surprised he was replaced at half time. My fingers
> >> are
> >> crossed that
> >> > Spillane recovers quickly as I've not been impressed with
> >> Otsemobor's
> >> > concentration levels so far, and Smith is not a fullback
> >> and
> >> has to rely on
> >> > speed to recover his position too often. MLS
> >> >
> >> > 2009/10/26 Malcolm Vasey
> >> <vasey.aquarius@virgin.net<vasey.aquarius@virgin.net>
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 
> >> >> We have got three right sided full backs and Lambert's
> >> offer
> >> to Exeter may
> >> >> have been before the impressive displays by first
> >> Spillane
> >> and then Francomb
> >> >> who would appear to be a great prospect. It may also
> >> have
> >> been at the
> >> >> time when PL was remembering that opening goal of the
> >> Colchester seven. We
> >> >> also have used Smith at right back but that is a waste
> >> of
> >> his talents in my
> >> >> view. Incidentally, Lambert is quoted as saying that we
> >> are
> >> short of funds
> >> >> because the pot was emptied due to last season's loans
> >> policy!!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Looking ahead to Paulton I hope that the match is on TV
> >> that
> >> weekend
> >> >> wherever it is held. Norwich should have too much class
> >> for
> >> the minnows
> >> >> from Somerset but cannot relax in what will be a white
> >> hot
> >> arena especially
> >> >> if its at Paulton's own ground. I would love to see us
> >> have
> >> a decent Cup
> >> >> run. Roeder's selection errors cost us at Bury two years
>
> >> ago
> >> and we never
> >> >> seem to get going in the FA Cup these days.
> >> >>
> >> >> Malcolm Vasey
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> *From:* Alan clark <clark.alan3@sky.com>
> >> >> *To:* CN@yahoogroups.com
> >> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2009 10:49 AM
> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [CN] Budget
> >> >>
> >> >> 
> >> >> From what i gather, it was 1 prime player, an exeter
> >> fullback..but
> >> >> depending on the standpoint, we didnt match their
> >> valuation
> >> or they thought
> >> >> they could bumb up the price,as we are considerd a big
> >> fish... I think our
> >> >> squad is large, and although the right back place has
> >> been
> >> weakend with
> >> >> injuries, we have coped so it was not a situation(sounds
> >> better with a
> >> >> scottish accent that word), where we had to accept the
> >> offer
> >> as we were
> >> >> desperate...when hucks/crouch(surely "stretch" wouldve
> >> been
> >> more apt) and
> >> >> the winger from pompey , were needed,its was getting
> >> dire
> >> with a deplated
> >> >> squad...
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> *From:* Marcel <marcel_beren@yahoo.com>
> >> >> *To:* CN@yahoogroups.com
> >> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2009 9:51 AM
> >> >> *Subject:* [CN] Budget
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I've seen some press coverage that lamberts been after
> >> some
> >> players but
> >> >> can't afford them - it seems the coffers are empty.
> >> >>
> >> >> When we were last in a comparable position (looking like
>
> >> we
> >> could mount a
> >> >> good promotion bid although I think a bit later in the
> >> season) the board
> >> >> approved the loan signings of Hucks, Crouch and Harper
> >> (iirc) which mustve
> >> >> blown the budget, but proved astute.
> >> >> I hope they'll find some elbow room for PL, but I'm not
> >> overly optimistic.
> >> >>
> >> >> Otherwise, looking at the squad, I think the only
> >> wriggle
> >> space PL can
> >> >> find for himself financially *without damaging quality*
> >> would be, IMHO,
> >> >> losing Cureton. Not sure we'd get much of a fee, but he
> >> must
> >> be on good
> >> >> money (which these days often greatly outweighs fees)
> >> and
> >> we're fairly well
> >> >> covered with strikers at or above his ability level.
> >> >>
> >> >> M
> >> >>
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