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Re: [CCC_Bicycle_Club] Fw: Incident on Mines Rd.
Tom,
This is Collin Chow.
As usual, what the hell are you talking about?? Letting them off the
hook? We should "chastise" them and go easy on them and not throw the
book at them, ya say??
Aren't you the same guy who refused to let non-club members who offer
to PAY THEIR OWN WAY to go on club overnight rides, simply because it
violate some bullshit made up club rule that, apparently, only you knew
about??
NOW, you want to be lenient and NOT play by the "book"? Which alien creature ate your body and is
now masquerading in your epidermis? The Terminator? The Predator?
Alien? Which one: 1, 2 or 3?? Maybe it's Damien or Linda Blair??
Go easy? This guy shot at someone! What if the cyclist tried to duck
and end up in a ditch? What if this guy's friend (or someone else who
may have witnessed this) thought this was cool but maybe should liven
it up with some live ammo next time?? Say, have you (or would you)
ever shot at a cyclist before?? hmmm... By the way, according to the
story, something DID hit the cyclist and he felt a burning sensation
across his back...
You think being shot at is some harmless "mischievous" fun? Do you even ride a bicycle (with or without a helmet)??
This is just inane and I can't believe I actually read the drivel from your email...
You want to respond? Great, email me privately at
c.chow@... directly and we can go at it... If not, you'd
be smarter than I would give you credit for.
Lastly, if you are responding to the CCC Yahoo Groups - don't you have
to be a dues paying member first? Just checking on that obscure rule
that apparently everyone (else) knows about...and if Mike emailed you privately, great...respond back to him so I don't have waste 15 minutes in the future doing this again...
End of message...
--- On Mon, 3/16/09, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@...> wrote:
From: Tom Kunich <cyclintom@...> Subject: Re: [CCC_Bicycle_Club] Fw: Incident on Mines Rd.. To: "CCC Yahoo Groups" <CCC_Bicycle_Club@yahoogroups.com>, "Michael F. Lynch" <lynchmf1@...> Cc: "Fred Hoffman" <hoffman@...>, "Ray Varanese" <rvbike@...> Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 2:55 PM
My hope is that they are chastised but not too badly slapped around. It sounds like they were being normal smart-assed teenagers. No paint in the paint gun suggests that they didn't think that it was dangerous - only mischievous.
If you push such things too far you make enemies instead of correcting behavior.
Tom
--- On Mon, 3/16/09, Michael F. Lynch <lynchmf1@comcast. net> wrote:
From: Michael F. Lynch <lynchmf1@comcast.. net> Subject:
[CCC_Bicycle_Club] Fw: Incident on Mines Rd. To: "CCC Yahoo Groups" <CCC_Bicycle_ Club@yahoogroups .com> Cc: "Fred Hoffman" <hoffman@alamedanet. net>, "Ray
Varanese" <rvbike@gmail. com> Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 2:35 PM
This is something everyone
should know about...
- Mike
--- On Sat, 3/14/09, Barb
Hailey <jb_alaman@yahoo. com> wrote:
- From: Barb Hailey <jb_alaman@yahoo. com>
- Subject: [Triple08] Incident on Mines Rd.
- To: tnt_cycle_alumni@ yahoogroups. com, Triple08@yahoogroup s.com,
"Triple Crown 2005 Cyclists"
<2005double3x@ yahoogroups. com>
- Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 7:25 AM
- Hi all,
-
- This story from a fellow GPC cyclist was just posted. I thought
you should all know about it and keep a watch out in that area.
There are more of them out there.
-
- Barb
- ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***
- Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:34:05 -0700
- Subject: [GPC] Mines Road
- From a Lawrence Livemore Lab Cyclotrons member.
- Yesterday evening (about 5:30 pm), while cycling up Mines road
just
- south of Tesla Rd I was shot (with paint gun) by a passing
vehicle.
- At first I thought it might have been a badly timed rock coming
off
- the vehicle, then I felt the burning sensation, then noticed
- passengers in the passing white mustang pop their heads back up
from
- the back seat and realized I'd been shot. I wasn't sure if it
was a
- pellet gun or bb gun. I immediately flagged down the next
vehicle and
- asked if they could get the license number of the vehicle but
the
- mustang had already gone to warp speed so the chances were
slim. I
- did not have my phone. A few minutes later, when the shock wore
off,
- I realized the weapon was most likely a paint gun (sound was
familiar
- from my one experience with that sport). Fortunately it only
grazed
- my back and was not a direct hit (no paint).
- This kind of e-mail usually ends with "be on the lookout
for..."
- ....not this time!
- Remember, I was going south on Mines. There are not too many
escape
- routes for the average vehicle.
- I continued on my ride eventually arriving at the Del Valle
kiosk..
- Did you see a white mustang come though here in the last half hour?
I
- asked the attendant. "sure did" was his
reply.
- That's when the story turns to the cyclist favor.
- Three troupers, a bunch of park rangers, and a patrol
helicopter
- narrowed the search quickly.
- They found the teenagers (white mustang and friends in white
pickup)
- on the southwest end of the lake, took significant video footage
of
- them from the air engaging a number of activities to warrant
trouble
- in court, surrounded them and placed them under arrest in the
middle
- of the grass field in their wet clothing on a cold evening
extracting
- a full confession.
- Turns out at least one of the teenagers actually lives on
Collier
- Canyon Rd. He asked the officer if he could apologize to me
in
- person. When he did, I shared with him that I have kids his age
and I
- tried to get him to visualize what he would do if one of my kids
had
- shot his mom or dad while they were out riding their bike trying
to
- stay in shape.
- My hope is that this experience for this group of teenagers serves
to
- at least reduce the number of aggressive vehicles out there by
one
- white mustang and one extended cab white pickup, especially in
the
- area of Collier Canyon and Del Valle/Mines Rd.
- -Patrick Dempsey
-
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Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:59 pm
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