NEW ACCURATE AT 100 YARDS, WILDLY INACCURATE AT 200 YARDS The Savage Striker pistol in 308 Winchester with Simmons 2-6 scope shoots averages of 5 5-shot groups...
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Bill McGraw
mcgr3799...
Nov 26, 2009 9:37 am
Joe, Your results are a mystery to me as my 10 twist 2-groove '03 shoots the same bullet at 1500 MV to < 1 MOA at 100 and 9 of 10 shots would go into less than...
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John Bischoff
mingobat
Dec 20, 2009 6:12 pm
... Hey Joe, Don't throw those cases out! Especially as they are new. Jeepers ! ! ! They can be resurrected as 250 Sav or 243 Win or one of the other offshoots...
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Joe Brennan
joeb33050
Dec 20, 2009 6:24 pm
John; They're gone, these cases were for the Striker, I have fired them a lot. I don't shoot anything shorter, like 22-250 or 243. They would have been very...
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Bill McGraw
mcgr3799...
Dec 21, 2009 6:35 am
... Hey Joe, Don't throw those cases out!  John and Joe,  I don't remember buying new brass in the 49 yrs I handloaded, most was PU brass, the rest...
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Bill McGraw
mcgr3799...
Dec 21, 2009 6:48 am
Why hasn't anyone commented on shooting the 308 Win Striker with very light loads, 200 gr. bullet, mv down in the 600s??? I'm baffled. Thanks; joe b. Â Joe, ...
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Joe Brennan
joeb33050
Dec 21, 2009 1:46 pm
Bill; I wrote about this here as "New Accurate at 100 yards, wildly inaccurate at 200 yards" John Bischoff calculated the quickload velocities, 14" Savage...
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Joe Brennan
joeb33050
Dec 21, 2009 1:54 pm
Bill; The brass is gone, it would not have reformed to correct. This was originally once fired match brass. I buy brass in lots of 120-140 cases, and keep each...
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Bill McGraw
mcgr3799...
Dec 21, 2009 6:16 pm
 "All the holes are round, no groups went crazy."  Joe, I read your earlier posts carefully and commented on some of them.  That is amazing getting round...
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eli griggs
eli_griggs
Dec 21, 2009 7:46 pm
I sugest you look for a hand-held power-drill stand for your shop so you can use a standard power-drill you may already have. These are made by several makers...
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Joe Brennan
joeb33050
Dec 22, 2009 2:35 pm
Since there are several loads with mv under the speed of sound, and that shoot reasonably accurately, I wonder why a 300 Whisper was ever needed. It would be...
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Tony Wells
gunner_wells
Dec 22, 2009 3:06 pm
Wasn't this why the Whisper range of cartridges were developed Joe - for use in sniper rifles fitted with a silencer / suppressor / sound moderator, whichever...
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Joe Brennan
joeb33050
Dec 22, 2009 4:13 pm
I think you're right. But, if under-speed-of-sound loads work well in the 308 Win, why do/did we go to the smaller case whisper. OR I never knew that 308 win...
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Tony Wells
gunner_wells
Dec 22, 2009 5:52 pm
Think about it Joe, what calibre does your army use - 223 Rem - and what cartridge case is the Whisper built around - 223 Rem of course! I should imagine that...
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joe b.
joeb33050
Dec 22, 2009 9:48 pm
... But why use a Lee Loader? I have one in 12 Ga I used in 1960, still use it for paper shell crimps. ... I don't know if I can explain it well. I can bring a...
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Bill McGraw
mcgr3799...
Dec 23, 2009 2:56 am
Joe, Would you or anyone else on the list have a spare Lee Loader for 410 shot shells? Bill McGraw "Somewhere South of Chicago" Greenville, Mississippi...
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Joe Brennan
joeb33050
Dec 23, 2009 12:40 pm
I believe that there was an M14 in 308Win. between the Garand and the M16. For a short while, the 308 was one of the service cartridges, and THE rifle...
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David Raczkowski
razzle785
Dec 23, 2009 1:17 pm
300 whisper was based on the 221 fireball the TCU which i shoot in silhuettes is based on the 223 and not subsonic dave merry christmas ...
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joe b.
joeb33050
Dec 30, 2009 2:30 pm
After thinking about my results with the 308 Win Striker, 200 grain bullet and small amounts of IMR4227 it flashed into my remaining brain that further testing...
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John Bischoff
mingobat
Dec 30, 2009 7:40 pm
Joe, You seem to have forgotten. You can avoid headspace creep very easily by leaving some case sizing lube on the cartridges when you fire them. You don't...
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John Bischoff
mingobat
Jan 13, 2010 7:33 pm
Hey, Joe, If you need to pinch nickels the way I do, call the nice lady at Lyman and ask to buy just the spud, the part that actually enters the case mouth. It...
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joe b.
joeb33050
Jan 28, 2010 1:21 pm
John; I have no way of measuring headspace, and am nervous about the lube-on-case method of keeping the shoulder from setting back. I shot my M54 30WCF=30/30...
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John Bischoff
mingobat
Jan 28, 2010 3:55 pm
Joe, I'm surprised. Think . . . if the pressure is too low to properly seal the case mouth to the chamber so that you get soot on the neck, then the pressure...
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Joe Brennan
joeb33050
Jan 28, 2010 4:33 pm
John; "No way of measuring headspace" referred to 308 cases. I went to the 30-30 so eliminate any headspace effect. At my age and brain power I don't want any...
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cmcnett@...
charles.mcnett
Jan 28, 2010 4:37 pm
Lyman, in their early cast bullet handbooks from the 20's and 30's, listed "gallery loads" for rifles. They all used a light bullet for the caliber and 5.0...
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John Bischoff
mingobat
Jan 28, 2010 6:18 pm
Joe!!! The sizing lube is the way to AVOID reduced headspace!!! That's what this is all about. Works first time, every time. John and Charlie, you're dead...
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Nicholas Jett
nick.jett
Jan 30, 2010 3:37 pm
I have had some experience with rimmed cases "shortening" after shooting a 200gr bullet above 4.0 grains or W231 in 7.62x54R. I was a bit suprised, as I...
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John Bischoff
mingobat
Jan 30, 2010 6:30 pm
Hi Nicholas, Firstly, the British Proof House, where they use proof loads (~40% overpressure loads) to test rifles before they can be sold, always oils the...
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joe b.
joeb33050
Jan 31, 2010 1:18 pm
I need to buy ~60 308Win cases to try with lube on them and very low velocity loads. I'd like the same headstamp,if possible. Anybody?? Thanks; joe b....
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Joe Strain aka Yodar
cz52_99
Feb 2, 2010 11:50 pm
TIP You want 100% Isopropyl (2-propanol) ? Read the label of HEET it's 99.6% mas o menos and works fine for your application.  Pharmaceutical 99.9% is...
