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John told me, and he is correct, that we had 3 different races at the JFK. So I have been encouraged to share some of my JFK moments.

First it was perfect weather just cool and no worries about hats, gloves, long pants and such. John, Monica and I started in Boonsboro and right after the start John was charging way ahead up the 3 mile hill to the start of the AT. Monica and I soon lost view of him. We started the AT in pretty good shape but it did seem to me to be more crowded than the past times I have run there. I ran into Mike (military guy from Dayton stationed here in DC for a year). He ran with us at Burke lake right before Sue's farewell party. I was so busy getting his MCM report that I lost Monica. Then the rocks got tougher and I also lost Mike. This year I saw 3 people go down on the AT. One guy lost his Garman to the rocks; it was scary. After the first casualty I did not look at anything- my Garmin. my watch, people nor the scenery- just my feet and the next step. I slowly made it off the trail. I was very happy to see the tow path but somehow I missed Jim Mellody there.

In this long race I have always wanted to know how I did on the various sections so this year I carried a small Sharpie marker and wrote my time on my leg(s) at every aid station. The plan is to analyze the "slowest" segments and do better next time. Or at least make excuses on why I was so slow in various segments. The purple sharpie worked well and I could even open it for the first 2 stops after that I had to get someone at the aid station to open it for me. It seemed the volunteers did not have slippery hands and swollen fingers. Most got a kick out of me writing my times down.

The tow path was great I talked to a Marine colonel, Andy, who encouraged me greatly. I also saw Jim M. and he drove ahead and then "ran" (ok I was mostly walking) from 34 the North Pole aid stop (with Santa and photos) to 38 special. It was a nice section and we met a wine seller from Albany NY living in Boston. He is one of the guys who challenged me in the last 8 miles. I was fading on the tow path and Andy told he to keep moving and maybe I could finish in under 10 hours. It did not seem possible at that point to me. Finally I neared the end of the tow path where I saw Karl and Cary from Middleburg. I talked to them for a bit and then pushed on. My hip was hurting and I could only think about being done. Now the mile markers are telling you miles left to the finish. At mile 5 I started trading positions with the wine seller and another guy my age. Finally with about 4 miles to go the older guy said I guess it is going to be a dog fight between you and me to the end. I passed him on a hill and he came back and told me I needed a better bark than that so I really started to run. At about 1 mile out you climb the last hill and then down a long slope and just finish. I passed my dog buddy on the hill and tried to look tough but I was hurting. I really poured it on hoping he could not catch me I was gone and a course volunteer told me one final push for 1/2 mile and I could break 10 hours. I thanked him and really ran (heck I might have even been doing a 10 minute mile pace). Finally I saw the finish clock- Jim Mellody is yelling from his car to me, John is right by the finish shoot and I see 9:57 on the clock.

My dog fighter buddy finished 1 minute behind me; found me in the gym and told me it was a great finish I thanked him. The 31 year old wine seller also broke 10 hours and came in 3rd in our personal event. My boss always says "don't be mean to Stephanie she won't quit- she will just step it up." I guess he is right.

To celebrate my best JFK time ever I went shopping for some shoes that I might be able to wear to work tomorrow. They are very soft ballet flats 1 size larger than I wear. I am quite sure I will still be walking funny but with any luck by Thursday I can hobble around the Lake with all my friends. Hope to see you at Shelter A 9:30 for a slow easy loop around the lake and some goodies.

Yes, I Know I am stubborn and sometimes not very smart but maybe that is one definition of a runner.

Stephanie

----- Original Message -----

From: John Stacy

To: BurkeLakeRunners@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:28 PM

Subject: Re: [BurkeLakeRunners] Re: a good walk in the woods

Hi BLR -

Monica, Steph, & I all finished the JFK 50 this Saturday. Jim Melody came up and helped us out tremendously with transportation, moral support, and getting the car close to the school when we could no longer walk! Thanks Jim!

Hagerstown was a fast drive from home at only 73 miles and no real traffic at 3:30pm. We picked up packets Friday afternoon at the Clarion on Dual Highway. It was well organized with a good collection of JFK logowear. We met Monica & Jim at the Texas roadhouse for a nice pre-race dinner. We stayed at the Hampton Inn on Dual Highway, which is right across the highway from the Texas roadhouse, a large 24 hour grocery for last minute foods, and a CVS. The Hampton had an early breakfast available by 5:45. The race start in Boonsboro seemed more crowded than last time - one page in the info book said they opened it up to 1800 runners this year. About 1000 made the finish.

We may have had the best weather ever for yesterday's JFK. It was 46-58, cloudy, and very little wind the entire day. It was really perfect for the run. The AT was especially rocky this year. I took my first tumble and finished the next forty miles with blood down my leg. At one point, I told a photographer to be sure and get the knee! The Potomac views from the towpath were spectacular. Come to think of it, we had a few minutes of sunshine in the morning when it was perfect for the river. The towpath was certainly a nice change from the trail. At one point I found myself fading and discovered if I were to breath deeply I could drop about 20 seconds a mile. I did a lot of breathing the rest of the course. The last 8 miles on the roads seemed like about 20 but I don't think that is new. My Garmin tells me that it is actually the JFK 50.7.

The most notable performance has to be Stephanie's fantastic 9:57. She said she wasn't sure she would break 10 until about 3 miles out when two guys started trash talking. They soon found out they shouldn't challenge her unless you're willing to pay! They both came in ok a few minutes later and get points for motivation. Steph finished 3rd in her age group!

One of the aid stations - I think at mile 34 - was decked out as Santa's workshop, complete with Santa. You could get your picture taken with him. I think Steph was our only taker on the picture. They had a contest for best aid station but I don't know if they won. I do like the Burma shave signs at mile 38 about stupid things done by people in large groups. My personal favorite station was any one with a banana.

Monica turned in a solid 11:23 - for her 8th JFK finish! Two more finishes and she'll be honored as a legend of JFK.

I knocked off a few minutes off from my one other finish at 8:44, with no serious dehydration or encounters with police dogs. I used another massage therapist at the finish than the regular guy I go to. It was fine but I think he'll make me pay for it tomorrow. Elbows and thumbs.

Our post-race dinner was at Bob Evan's also across from the hotel. It met the essential criteria of no waiting but the food was good also.

Thanks for all the encouraging thoughts from BLR's beforehand. We were thinking of you. We look forward to seeing more BLR's out there next year.

Happy running,

John

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM, daphnerunon <daphnemagnusonster@gmail.com> wrote:

John, Stephanie, Monica and any other JFKers --
Wishing you strong legs, big lungs, a steady heart and cold beer at the end! Have a great day out there.

Daphne

--- In BurkeLakeRunners@yahoogroups.com, John Stacy <john.e.stacy@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Monica, Steph & I (and maybe more) are going up to Boonsboro this weekend
> for a stroll in the woods with a thousand friends. The weather sounds nice
> - 40 to 59 with a 10% chance of rain and partly cloudy and light wind. If
> you're there, look for us in the gym. Monica will be chatting with her fan
> base, Steph will be interviewing the local newspaper, and I will have a
> towel over my head in the corner.
>
> This is the 47th JFK 50. Here's what they say on the site about the race:
>
> The JFK 50 Mile was first held in the spring of 1963. It was one of
> numerous such 50 mile events held around the country as part of President
> John F. Kennedy's push to bring the country back to physical fitness.
>
> When Kennedy was assassinated in November of 1963, most of these events were
> never held again. The one here in Washington County, MD changed it's name
> from the JFK 50 Mile Challenge to the JFK 50 Mile Memorial in 1964. The JFK
> 50 Mile in Washington County, MD is the only original JFK 50 Mile Challenge
> event to be held every year for the last 44 years. The 45th Annual JFK 50
> Mile will be held on November 17, 2007.
>
> Although open to the public, the JFK 50 Mile is in spirit a military race.
> It always has been and always will be. In 1963, the initial inspiration
> behind the event came from then President John F. Kennedy challenging his
> military officers to meet the requirements that Teddy Roosevelt had set for
> his own military officers at the dawn of the 20th Century. That Roosevelt
> requirement was for all military officers to be able to cover 50 miles on
> foot in 20 hours to maintain their commissions. When word got out about the
> "Kennedy Challenge", non-commissioned military personnel also wanted to
> take the test themselves as did certain robust members of the civilian
> population.
>
> Of the many awards presented at the JFK 50 Mile each year, the most
> prestigious is the Kennedy Cup, which is awarded to the top-finishing
> military team. Each military team can have a maximum of 10 participants
> with the finishing times from the top-five finishers combined for the team
> time. Like golf and cross country, the low (time) score wins.
>
> The military personnel that take part in the JFK 50 Mile are extremely
> well-prepared, disciplined and (even when greatly fatigued) always courteous
> to everyone involved with organizing and/or supporting the event. It is
> always a true honor --and pleasure-- to host U.S. Military personnel at the
> JFK 50 Mile.
>
>
> If this link works, it is a fun 1963 life style piece:
> http://www.jfk50mile.org/images/JFK-USNews60sB.pdf
>
>
> See you at the finish line.
>
> John
>

#8585

From: John Stacy <john.e.stacy@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: Re: a good walk in the woods

jestacy2004

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Hi BLR -�

Monica, Steph, & I all finished the JFK 50 this Saturday. �Jim Melody came up and helped us out tremendously with transportation, moral support, and getting the car close to the school when we could no longer walk! �Thanks Jim!

Hagerstown was a fast drive from home at only 73 miles and no real traffic at 3:30pm. �We picked up packets Friday afternoon at the Clarion on Dual Highway. It was well organized with a good collection of JFK logowear. �We met Monica & Jim at the Texas roadhouse for a nice pre-race dinner. �We stayed at the Hampton Inn on Dual Highway, which is right across the highway from the Texas roadhouse, a large 24 hour grocery for last minute foods, and a CVS. �The Hampton had an early breakfast available by 5:45. �The race start in Boonsboro seemed more crowded than last time - one page in the info book said they opened it up to 1800 runners this year. � About 1000 made the finish.

We may have had the best weather ever for yesterday's JFK. �It was 46-58, cloudy, and very little wind the entire day. �It was really perfect for the run. �The AT was especially rocky this year. �I took my first tumble and finished the next forty miles with blood down my leg. �At one point, I told a photographer�to be sure and get the knee! �The Potomac views from the towpath were spectacular. �Come to think of it, we had a few minutes of sunshine in the morning when it was perfect for the river. �The towpath was certainly a nice change from the trail. �At one point I found myself fading and discovered if I were to breath deeply I could drop about 20 seconds a mile. �I did a lot of breathing the rest of the course. �The last 8 miles on the roads seemed like about 20 but I don't think that is new. �My Garmin tells me that it is actually the JFK 50.7.

The most notable performance has to be Stephanie's fantastic 9:57. �She said she wasn't sure she would break 10 until about 3 miles out when two guys started trash talking. �They soon found out they shouldn't challenge her unless you're willing to pay! �They both came in ok a few minutes later and get points for motivation. �Steph finished 3rd in her age group!�

One of the aid stations - I think at mile 34 - was decked out as Santa's workshop, complete with Santa. �You could get your picture taken with him. �I think Steph was our only taker on the picture. �They had a contest for best aid station but I don't know if they won. �I do like the Burma shave signs at mile 38 about stupid things done by people in large groups. My personal favorite station was any one with a banana.

Monica turned in a solid 11:23 - for her 8th JFK finish! �Two more finishes and she'll be honored as a legend of JFK.

I knocked off a few minutes off from my one other finish at 8:44, with no serious dehydration or encounters with police dogs. �I used another massage therapist at the finish than the regular guy I go to. �It was fine but I think he'll make me pay for it tomorrow. �Elbows and thumbs.

Our post-race dinner was at Bob Evan's also across from the hotel. �It met the essential criteria of no waiting but the food was good also.

Thanks for all the encouraging thoughts from BLR's beforehand. �We were thinking of you. �We look forward to seeing more BLR's out there next year. �

Happy running,

John

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM, daphnerunon <daphnemagnusonster@...> wrote:

�

John, Stephanie, Monica and any other JFKers --
Wishing you strong legs, big lungs, a steady heart and cold beer at the end! Have a great day out there.

Daphne

--- In BurkeLakeRunners@yahoogroups.com, John Stacy <john.e.stacy@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Monica, Steph & I (and maybe more) are going up to Boonsboro this weekend
> for a stroll in the woods with a thousand friends. The weather sounds nice
> - 40 to 59 with a 10% chance of rain and partly cloudy and light wind. If
> you're there, look for us in the gym. Monica will be chatting with her fan
> base, Steph will be interviewing the local newspaper, and I will have a
> towel over my head in the corner.
>
> This is the 47th JFK 50. Here's what they say on the site about the race:
>
> The JFK 50 Mile was first held in the spring of 1963. It was one of
> numerous such 50 mile events held around the country as part of President
> John F. Kennedy's push to bring the country back to physical fitness.
>
> When Kennedy was assassinated in November of 1963, most of these events were
> never held again. The one here in Washington County, MD changed it's name
> from the JFK 50 Mile Challenge to the JFK 50 Mile Memorial in 1964. The JFK
> 50 Mile in Washington County, MD is the only original JFK 50 Mile Challenge
> event to be held every year for the last 44 years. The 45th Annual JFK 50
> Mile will be held on November 17, 2007.
>
> Although open to the public, the JFK 50 Mile is in spirit a military race.
> It always has been and always will be. In 1963, the initial inspiration
> behind the event came from then President John F. Kennedy challenging his
> military officers to meet the requirements that Teddy Roosevelt had set for
> his own military officers at the dawn of the 20th Century. That Roosevelt
> requirement was for all military officers to be able to cover 50 miles on
> foot in 20 hours to maintain their commissions. When word got out about the
> "Kennedy Challenge", non-commissioned military personnel also wanted to
> take the test themselves as did certain robust members of the civilian
> population.
>
> Of the many awards presented at the JFK 50 Mile each year, the most
> prestigious is the Kennedy Cup, which is awarded to the top-finishing
> military team. Each military team can have a maximum of 10 participants
> with the finishing times from the top-five finishers combined for the team
> time. Like golf and cross country, the low (time) score wins.
>
> The military personnel that take part in the JFK 50 Mile are extremely
> well-prepared, disciplined and (even when greatly fatigued) always courteous
> to everyone involved with organizing and/or supporting the event. It is
> always a true honor --and pleasure-- to host U.S. Military personnel at the
> JFK 50 Mile.
>
>
> If this link works, it is a fun 1963 life style piece:
> http://www.jfk50mile.org/images/JFK-USNews60sB.pdf
>
>
> See you at the finish line.
>
> John
>

#8584

From: tinkerbell runs <tinkerbellruns@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:36 pm
Subject: RE: Re: It's been so quiet on the site...

tinkerbellruns

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Hello, Phil and Daphne... and any other BLRs who are looking! I have a folder in my hotmail account where all the BLR emails are automatically sent and at this time I have 561 unread. So how long has it been since I've checked in here? My educated guess is at least one year. But my "layoff" has been 2 years now with nothing more than an ocassional jog around the lake with or without Tyler in the stroller.

I have had a tumultuous year, getting laid off from work (not running), looking for work and finally ending a very unhealthy 6 1/2 year relationship. The good news is I have a new job which I love and after being told by someone else that my significant other (whom I shall not name) has a profile on Match.com I finally had enough. This wasn't the first incident but it was the last. Call it the straw that broke the camel's back.

I am going to make an attempt to start running again on a more regular schedule. It's tough with the kids, but I will try.

I don't remember green tights... But I'm very glad to hear Darlene is doing well! Great news!

~Jackie

To: BurkeLakeRunners@yahoogroups.com
From: daphnemagnusonster@...
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:49:40 +0000
Subject: [BurkeLakeRunners] Re: It's been so quiet on the site...

Welcome back o wandering hasher. It's good to know you're still training away. We miss those green tights!

Congrats on the 4K victory. My son is now one of those teenaged cross country runners you encountered and probably runs around Burke Lake more regularly than I do these days. For one reason and another, I've not been able to run much since the spring and it shows. I am still out there some Sundays, but dang I am slow (10:30 mm) and with my speed so goes my motivation. Hope to see you out there soon, although I'm undecided about this weekend. I believe several Burke Lake Runners are running JFK and my steady running date Darlene just had her third and possibly final round of chemo on Thursday. (For non-Hodgkins Lymphoma -- she has an excellent prognosis and is still in better shape than I am.) If she's up to it, I'll go to the lake with her for a mix of walking, running and talking. I sure hope to see you out there sometime soon.

Daphne
P.S. - Rarely post any more because the yahoo server bounces back my gmail account e-mails.

--- In BurkeLakeRunners@yahoogroups.com, "paennis" <paennis@...> wrote:
>
> For you old time BLR's out there who might remember me, I thought I'd pass on some news...
>
> I have started running at a more regular interval than in the past 4 years... hoping the IT band which caused my demise for Bull Run 50 in 2005 doesn't bother me (I likely won't be approaching anything near marathon distances for a year+, if ever).
>
> Some 3 x a week interval-type training for 5K over a month this summer left both my achilles very sore... so I took a few weeks off for recovery. BTW - If anyone is looking to set their (age group)PR's, I recommend you look into the FIRST (Furman Institute of Running & Scientific Training) program. 3 x a week running (pretty hard) with 2 x a week cross-train to allow enough rest for us seasoned veterans. Programs range from 5K to Marathon.
>
> Finished the NFCU 5K in Sept and managed to break 23 minutes... I was happy after a 4 year lay-off.
>
> This past weekend I ran the Potomac Overlook 4K trail run, and actually took first place for the men's division. The winner was a 15 yr old female cross-country runner, and I passed the 3rd thru 5th place in the last 100m to nab 2nd overall. By the way 3rd - 5th places were taken by 12, 14 and 24 yr old males respectively. Youth is wasted on the Young!!! Most of the competitors on the day had opted for the 8k. I love the Camo- Mad Bombers hat I got for the prize. Next time I go ice-fishing, I'll stay nice and warm!
>
> With this (relative) success, I am running the Herndon Turkey Trot 5K (on the golf course) this Saturday (19 Nov). I'm also considering the Backyard Burn 5 miler in Clifton on Dec 6th. Keeping to the softer surfaces until I get more fit. Anyone want to join me?
>
> Hope to see you out at the lake / elsewhere soon.
>
> Phil E. (aka - the wandering Hasher)
>
> p.s. - Keith, how was OBX?
>

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#8583

From: "Lexa" <lexa72@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:06 am
Subject: Re: sunday run

Lexa72

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I'll be there! 8AM sharp!

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From: "Janice Burford" <lovesyoyo@...>

Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:43:29 -0500

To: <BurkeLakeRunners@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: [BurkeLakeRunners] sunday run

Is anyone running tomorrow at Burke Lake besides me? Pretty please!

Janice

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#8582

From: "Janice Burford" <lovesyoyo@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:43 pm
Subject: sunday run

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Is anyone running tomorrow at Burke Lake besides me? Pretty please!

Janice

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#8581

From: "daphnerunon" <daphnemagnusonster@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:52 pm
Subject: Re: Burke Turkey Trot

daphnerunon

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I will trot on by for sure!  See you on Thanksgiving.  Looking forward to doing
a JFK victory lap with the group.

Best,
Daphne

--- In BurkeLakeRunners@yahoogroups.com, <sbdanahy@...> wrote:
>
> Runners Family and Friends
> It is my favorite time of year Thanksgiving and time for the annual Burke Lake
Runners Turkey Trot. Starting at Shelter A 9:30 am Thanksgiving morning. Darlene
is bringing some goodies. Gail will have drinks. I am bringing some snacks and
family maybe 16 or so.
> see you Thursday 9:30
>
> Seph
>

#8580

From: "daphnerunon" <daphnemagnusonster@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:51 pm
Subject: Re: a good walk in the woods

daphnerunon

Offline

John, Stephanie, Monica and any other JFKers --
Wishing you strong legs, big lungs, a steady heart and cold beer at the end! 
Have a great day out there.

Daphne

--- In BurkeLakeRunners@yahoogroups.com, John Stacy <john.e.stacy@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Monica, Steph & I (and maybe more) are going up to Boonsboro this weekend
> for a stroll in the woods with a thousand friends.  The weather sounds nice
> - 40 to 59 with a 10% chance of rain and partly cloudy and light wind.  If
> you're there, look for us in the gym.  Monica will be chatting with her fan
> base, Steph will be interviewing the local newspaper, and I will have a
> towel over my head in the corner.
>
> This is the 47th JFK 50.  Here's what they say on the site about the race:
>
> The JFK 50 Mile was first held in the spring of 1963.  It was one of
> numerous such 50 mile events held around the country as part of President
> John F. Kennedy's push to bring the country back to physical fitness.
>
> When Kennedy was assassinated in November of 1963, most of these events were
> never held again.  The one here in Washington County, MD changed it's name
> from the JFK 50 Mile Challenge to the JFK 50 Mile Memorial in 1964.  The JFK
> 50 Mile in Washington County, MD is the only original JFK 50 Mile Challenge
> event to be held every year for the last 44 years.  The 45th Annual JFK 50
> Mile will be held on November 17, 2007.
>
> Although open to the public, the JFK 50 Mile is in spirit a military race.
> It always has been and always will be.  In 1963, the initial inspiration
> behind the event came from then President John F. Kennedy challenging his
> military officers to meet the requirements that Teddy Roosevelt had set for
> his own military officers at the dawn of the 20th Century.  That Roosevelt
> requirement was for all military officers to be able to cover 50 miles on
> foot in 20 hours to maintain their commissions.  When word got out about the
> "Kennedy Challenge", non-commissioned military personnel also wanted to
> take the test themselves as did certain robust members of the civilian
> population.
>
> Of the many awards presented at the JFK 50 Mile each year, the most
> prestigious is the Kennedy Cup, which is awarded to the top-finishing
> military team.  Each military team can have a maximum of 10 participants
> with the finishing times from the top-five finishers combined for the team
> time.  Like golf and cross country, the low (time) score wins.
>
> The military personnel that take part in the JFK 50 Mile are extremely
> well-prepared, disciplined and (even when greatly fatigued) always courteous
> to everyone involved with organizing and/or supporting the event.  It is
> always a true honor --and pleasure-- to host U.S. Military personnel at the
> JFK 50 Mile.
>
>
> If this link works, it is a fun 1963 life style piece:
> http://www.jfk50mile.org/images/JFK-USNews60sB.pdf
>
>
> See you at the finish line.
>
> John
>

#8579

From: "daphnerunon" <daphnemagnusonster@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:49 pm
Subject: Re: It's been so quiet on the site...

daphnerunon

Offline

Welcome back o wandering hasher.  It's good to know you're still training away. 
We miss those green tights!

Congrats on the 4K victory.  My son is now one of those teenaged cross country
runners you encountered and probably runs around Burke Lake more regularly than
I do these days.  For one reason and another, I've not been able to run much
since the spring and it shows.  I am still out there some Sundays, but dang I am
slow (10:30 mm) and with my speed so goes my motivation.    Hope to see you out
there soon, although I'm undecided about this weekend.  I believe several Burke
Lake Runners are running JFK and my steady running date Darlene just had her
third and possibly final round of chemo on Thursday.  (For non-Hodgkins Lymphoma
-- she has an excellent prognosis and is still in better shape than I am.)  If
she's up to it, I'll go to the lake with her for a mix of walking, running and
talking.  I sure hope to see you out there sometime soon.

Daphne
P.S. - Rarely post any more because the yahoo server bounces back my gmail
account e-mails.


--- In BurkeLakeRunners@yahoogroups.com, "paennis" <paennis@...> wrote:
>
> For you old time BLR's out there who might remember me, I thought I'd pass on
some news...
>
> I have started running at a more regular interval than in the past 4 years... 
hoping the IT band which caused my demise for  Bull Run 50 in 2005 doesn't
bother me (I likely won't be approaching anything near marathon distances for a
year+, if ever).
>
> Some 3 x a week interval-type training for 5K over a month this summer left
both my achilles very sore... so I took a few weeks off for recovery.  BTW - If
anyone is looking to set their (age group)PR's, I recommend you look into the
FIRST (Furman Institute of Running & Scientific Training) program.  3 x a week
running (pretty hard) with 2 x a week cross-train to allow enough rest for us
seasoned veterans.  Programs range from 5K to Marathon.
>
> Finished the NFCU 5K in Sept and managed to break 23 minutes... I was happy
after a 4 year lay-off.
>
> This past weekend I ran the Potomac Overlook 4K trail run, and actually took
first place for the men's division. The winner was a 15 yr old female
cross-country runner, and I passed the 3rd thru 5th place in the last 100m to
nab 2nd overall.  By the way 3rd - 5th places were taken by 12, 14 and 24 yr old
males respectively. Youth is wasted on the Young!!!  Most of the competitors on
the day had opted for the 8k.  I love the Camo- Mad Bombers hat I got for the
prize.  Next time I go ice-fishing, I'll stay nice and warm!
>
> With this (relative) success, I am running the Herndon Turkey Trot 5K (on the
golf course) this Saturday (19 Nov). I'm also considering the Backyard Burn 5
miler in Clifton on Dec 6th.  Keeping to the softer surfaces until I get more
fit.  Anyone want to join me?
>
> Hope to see you out at the lake / elsewhere soon.
>
> Phil E. (aka - the wandering Hasher)
>
> p.s. - Keith, how was OBX?
>

#8578

From: "Keith Hosman" <khosman3@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:46 pm
Subject: Re: It's been so quiet on the site...

khosman3

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Hi Phil,OBX did not go well as far as the race itself went.I had the flu twice
in October and my training and motivation went downhill.I did not expect to do
well but I did not think I would do as bad as I did.I ran a 4:22 marathon.This
is the slowest I have ever run on the roads in a marathon.I now am just working
on slowly building my weekly milage back to where it was before I got sick.I did
have a good time down at the beach house I always do.

--- In BurkeLakeRunners@yahoogroups.com, "paennis" <paennis@...> wrote:
>
> For you old time BLR's out there who might remember me, I thought I'd pass on
some news...
>
> I have started running at a more regular interval than in the past 4 years... 
hoping the IT band which caused my demise for  Bull Run 50 in 2005 doesn't
bother me (I likely won't be approaching anything near marathon distances for a
year+, if ever).
>
> Some 3 x a week interval-type training for 5K over a month this summer left
both my achilles very sore... so I took a few weeks off for recovery.  BTW - If
anyone is looking to set their (age group)PR's, I recommend you look into the
FIRST (Furman Institute of Running & Scientific Training) program.  3 x a week
running (pretty hard) with 2 x a week cross-train to allow enough rest for us
seasoned veterans.  Programs range from 5K to Marathon.
>
> Finished the NFCU 5K in Sept and managed to break 23 minutes... I was happy
after a 4 year lay-off.
>
> This past weekend I ran the Potomac Overlook 4K trail run, and actually took
first place for the men's division. The winner was a 15 yr old female
cross-country runner, and I passed the 3rd thru 5th place in the last 100m to
nab 2nd overall.  By the way 3rd - 5th places were taken by 12, 14 and 24 yr old
males respectively. Youth is wasted on the Young!!!  Most of the competitors on
the day had opted for the 8k.  I love the Camo- Mad Bombers hat I got for the
prize.  Next time I go ice-fishing, I'll stay nice and warm!
>
> With this (relative) success, I am running the Herndon Turkey Trot 5K (on the
golf course) this Saturday (19 Nov). I'm also considering the Backyard Burn 5
miler in Clifton on Dec 6th.  Keeping to the softer surfaces until I get more
fit.  Anyone want to join me?
>
> Hope to see you out at the lake / elsewhere soon.
>
> Phil E. (aka - the wandering Hasher)
>
> p.s. - Keith, how was OBX?
>

#8577

From: <sbdanahy@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:31 pm
Subject: Burke Turkey Trot

sbdanahyruns

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Runners Family and Friends
It is my favorite time of year Thanksgiving and time for the annual Burke Lake
Runners Turkey Trot. Starting at Shelter A 9:30 am Thanksgiving morning. Darlene
is bringing some goodies. Gail will have drinks. I am bringing some snacks and
family maybe 16 or so.
see you Thursday 9:30

Seph

#8576

From: "Nan Danielson" <thedanielson4@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:56 am
Subject: Re: a good walk in the woods

nandanielson

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Can't wait to hear how you all speed through it! Good luck! Nan

----- Original Message -----

From: Janice Burford

To: BurkeLakeRunners@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject: Re: [BurkeLakeRunners] a good walk in the woods

Good luck kids and watch out for snakes and tics!

----- Original Message -----

From: John Stacy

To: BurkeLakeRunners@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:49 PM

Subject: [BurkeLakeRunners] a good walk in the woods

Hi all,

Monica, Steph & I (and maybe more) are going up to Boonsboro this weekend for a stroll in the woods with a thousand friends. The weather sounds nice - 40 to 59 with a 10% chance of rain and partly cloudy and light wind. If you're there, look for us in the gym. Monica will be chatting with her fan base, Steph will be interviewing the local newspaper, and I will have a towel over my head in the corner.

This is the 47th JFK 50. Here's what they say on the site about the race:

The JFK 50 Mile was first held in the spring of 1963. It was one of numerous such 50 mile events held around the country as part of President John F. Kennedy's push to bring the country back to physical fitness.

When Kennedy was assassinated in November of 1963, most of these events were never held again. The one here in Washington County, MD changed it's name from the JFK 50 Mile Challenge to the JFK 50 Mile Memorial in 1964. The JFK 50 Mile in Washington County, MD is the only original JFK 50 Mile Challenge event to be held every year for the last 44 years. The 45th Annual JFK 50 Mile will be held on November 17, 2007.

Although open to the public, the JFK 50 Mile is in spirit a military race. It always has been and always will be. In 1963, the initial inspiration behind the event came from then President John F. Kennedy challenging his military officers to meet the requirements that Teddy Roosevelt had set for his own military officers at the dawn of the 20th Century. That Roosevelt requirement was for all military officers to be able to cover 50 miles on foot in 20 hours to maintain their commissions. When word got out about the "Kennedy Challenge", non-commissioned military personnel also wanted to take the test themselves as did certain robust members of the civilian population.

Of the many awards presented at the JFK 50 Mile each year, the most prestigious is the Kennedy Cup, which is awarded to the top-finishing military team. Each military team can have a maximum of 10 participants with the finishing times from the top-five finishers combined for the team time. Like golf and cross country, the low (time) score wins.

The military personnel that take part in the JFK 50 Mile are extremely well-prepared, disciplined and (even when greatly fatigued) always courteous to everyone involved with organizing and/or supporting the event. It is always a true honor --and pleasure-- to host U.S. Military personnel at the JFK 50 Mile.

If this link works, it is a fun 1963 life style piece:

http://www.jfk50mile.org/images/JFK-USNews60sB.pdf

See you at the finish line.

John

#8575

From: "Janice Burford" <lovesyoyo@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:55 am
Subject: Re: a good walk in the woods

lovessixam

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Good luck kids and watch out for snakes and tics!

----- Original Message -----

From: John Stacy

To: BurkeLakeRunners@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:49 PM

Subject: [BurkeLakeRunners] a good walk in the woods

Hi all,

Monica, Steph & I (and maybe more) are going up to Boonsboro this weekend for a stroll in the woods with a thousand friends. The weather sounds nice - 40 to 59 with a 10% chance of rain and partly cloudy and light wind. If you're there, look for us in the gym. Monica will be chatting with her fan base, Steph will be interviewing the local newspaper, and I will have a towel over my head in the corner.

This is the 47th JFK 50. Here's what they say on the site about the race:

The JFK 50 Mile was first held in the spring of 1963. It was one of numerous such 50 mile events held around the country as part of President John F. Kennedy's push to bring the country back to physical fitness.

When Kennedy was assassinated in November of 1963, most of these events were never held again. The one here in Washington County, MD changed it's name from the JFK 50 Mile Challenge to the JFK 50 Mile Memorial in 1964. The JFK 50 Mile in Washington County, MD is the only original JFK 50 Mile Challenge event to be held every year for the last 44 years. The 45th Annual JFK 50 Mile will be held on November 17, 2007.

Although open to the public, the JFK 50 Mile is in spirit a military race. It always has been and always will be. In 1963, the initial inspiration behind the event came from then President John F. Kennedy challenging his military officers to meet the requirements that Teddy Roosevelt had set for his own military officers at the dawn of the 20th Century. That Roosevelt requirement was for all military officers to be able to cover 50 miles on foot in 20 hours to maintain their commissions. When word got out about the "Kennedy Challenge", non-commissioned military personnel also wanted to take the test themselves as did certain robust members of the civilian population.

Of the many awards presented at the JFK 50 Mile each year, the most prestigious is the Kennedy Cup, which is awarded to the top-finishing military team. Each military team can have a maximum of 10 participants with the finishing times from the top-five finishers combined for the team time. Like golf and cross country, the low (time) score wins.

The military personnel that take part in the JFK 50 Mile are extremely well-prepared, disciplined and (even when greatly fatigued) always courteous to everyone involved with organizing and/or supporting the event. It is always a true honor --and pleasure-- to host U.S. Military personnel at the JFK 50 Mile.

If this link works, it is a fun 1963 life style piece:

http://www.jfk50mile.org/images/JFK-USNews60sB.pdf

See you at the finish line.

John

#8574

From: John Stacy <john.e.stacy@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:49 am
Subject: a good walk in the woods

jestacy2004

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http://www.jfk50mile.org/images/JFK-USNews60sB.pdf

Hi all,

Monica, Steph & I (and maybe more) are going up to Boonsboro this weekend for a stroll in the woods with a thousand friends. �The weather sounds nice - 40 to 59 with a 10% chance of rain and partly cloudy and light wind. �If you're there, look for us in the gym. �Monica will be chatting with her fan base, Steph will be interviewing the local newspaper, and I will have a towel over my head in the corner.

This is the 47th JFK 50. �Here's what they say on the site about the race:

The JFK 50 Mile was first held in the spring of 1963.� It was one of numerous such 50 mile events held around the country as part of President John F. Kennedy's push to bring the country back to physical fitness.

When Kennedy was assassinated in November of 1963, most of these events were never held again.� The one here in Washington County, MD changed it's name from the JFK 50 Mile Challenge to the JFK 50 Mile Memorial in 1964.� The JFK 50 Mile in Washington County, MD is the only original JFK 50 Mile Challenge event to be held every year for the last 44 years.� The 45th Annual�JFK 50 Mile will be held on November 17, 2007.

Although open to the public, the JFK 50 Mile is�in spirit a�military race.� It always has been and always will be.� In 1963, the initial inspiration behind the event�came from then President�John F. Kennedy challenging his military officers to meet the requirements that Teddy Roosevelt had set for his own military officers at the dawn of the 20th Century.� That Roosevelt requirement was for all military officers to be able to cover 50 miles on foot in 20 hours to maintain their commissions.� When word got out about the "Kennedy Challenge", non-commissioned military personnel also wanted to take�the test themselves as did certain robust�members of the civilian population.�

Of the many awards presented at the JFK 50 Mile each year, the most prestigious is the Kennedy Cup, which is awarded to the top-finishing military team.� Each military team can have a maximum of 10 participants with the finishing times from the top-five finishers combined for the�team time.� Like golf and cross country, the low (time) score wins.�

The military personnel that take part in the JFK 50 Mile are�extremely well-prepared, disciplined and (even when greatly fatigued) always�courteous to everyone involved with organizing and/or supporting the event.� It is always a true honor --and pleasure-- to host�U.S. Military�personnel at�the JFK 50 Mile.

If this link works, it is a fun 1963 life style piece:

See you at the finish line.

John

#8573

From: John Stacy <john.e.stacy@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:29 am
Subject: Re: It's been so quiet on the site...

jestacy2004

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Thanks for writing Phil. �I didn't overlap with you but am glad to hear your update. �I've been seeing the 3x a week intensive run / 2x cross train in other places lately - A Higdon book for instance. �Sounds consistent with having lots of quality workouts. �Good luck on your Thanksgiving races & see you at the lake soon.

John

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:07 AM, paennis <paennis@...> wrote:

�

For you old time BLR's out there who might remember me, I thought I'd pass on some news...

I have started running at a more regular interval than in the past 4 years... hoping the IT band which caused my demise for Bull Run 50 in 2005 doesn't bother me (I likely won't be approaching anything near marathon distances for a year+, if ever).

Some 3 x a week interval-type training for 5K over a month this summer left both my achilles very sore... so I took a few weeks off for recovery. BTW - If anyone is looking to set their (age group)PR's, I recommend you look into the FIRST (Furman Institute of Running & Scientific Training) program. 3 x a week running (pretty hard) with 2 x a week cross-train to allow enough rest for us seasoned veterans. Programs range from 5K to Marathon.

Finished the NFCU 5K in Sept and managed to break 23 minutes... I was happy after a 4 year lay-off.

This past weekend I ran the Potomac Overlook 4K trail run, and actually took first place for the men's division. The winner was a 15 yr old female cross-country runner, and I passed the 3rd thru 5th place in the last 100m to nab 2nd overall. By the way 3rd - 5th places were taken by 12, 14 and 24 yr old males respectively. Youth is wasted on the Young!!! Most of the competitors on the day had opted for the 8k. I love the Camo- Mad Bombers hat I got for the prize. Next time I go ice-fishing, I'll stay nice and warm!

With this (relative) success, I am running the Herndon Turkey Trot 5K (on the golf course) this Saturday (19 Nov). I'm also considering the Backyard Burn 5 miler in Clifton on Dec 6th. Keeping to the softer surfaces until I get more fit. Anyone want to join me?

Hope to see you out at the lake / elsewhere soon.

Phil E. (aka - the wandering Hasher)

p.s. - Keith, how was OBX?

#8572

From: John Stacy <john.e.stacy@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:41 pm
Subject: Re: Boston 2010 is closed!

jestacy2004

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Hi Sue -

�

I wonder if this is the earliest yet.� Steph and I are in - at least if our numbers check out!

�

Happy running

�

John

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:16 PM, suerun <suerun@...> wrote:

�

I just discovered from a friend that Boston 2010 has closed! Hope everyone who was planning to make the trip has registered - and for those of us who were unsure or slow to sign-up - the decision has been made for us!
Best of luck to those running!
sue :)

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#8571

From: "paennis" <paennis@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:07 pm
Subject: It's been so quiet on the site...

paennis

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For you old time BLR's out there who might remember me, I thought I'd pass on
some news...

I have started running at a more regular interval than in the past 4 years... 
hoping the IT band which caused my demise for  Bull Run 50 in 2005 doesn't
bother me (I likely won't be approaching anything near marathon distances for a
year+, if ever).

Some 3 x a week interval-type training for 5K over a month this summer left both
my achilles very sore... so I took a few weeks off for recovery.  BTW - If
anyone is looking to set their (age group)PR's, I recommend you look into the
FIRST (Furman Institute of Running & Scientific Training) program.  3 x a week
running (pretty hard) with 2 x a week cross-train to allow enough rest for us
seasoned veterans.  Programs range from 5K to Marathon.

Finished the NFCU 5K in Sept and managed to break 23 minutes... I was happy
after a 4 year lay-off.

This past weekend I ran the Potomac Overlook 4K trail run, and actually took
first place for the men's division. The winner was a 15 yr old female
cross-country runner, and I passed the 3rd thru 5th place in the last 100m to
nab 2nd overall.  By the way 3rd - 5th places were taken by 12, 14 and 24 yr old
males respectively. Youth is wasted on the Young!!!  Most of the competitors on
the day had opted for the 8k.  I love the Camo- Mad Bombers hat I got for the
prize.  Next time I go ice-fishing, I'll stay nice and warm!

With this (relative) success, I am running the Herndon Turkey Trot 5K (on the
golf course) this Saturday (19 Nov). I'm also considering the Backyard Burn 5
miler in Clifton on Dec 6th.  Keeping to the softer surfaces until I get more
fit.  Anyone want to join me?

Hope to see you out at the lake / elsewhere soon.

Phil E. (aka - the wandering Hasher)

p.s. - Keith, how was OBX?

#8570

From: "suerun" <suerun@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:16 pm
Subject: Boston 2010 is closed!

suerun

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I just discovered from a friend that Boston 2010 has closed! Hope everyone who
was planning to make the trip has registered - and for those of us who were
unsure or slow to sign-up - the decision has been made for us!
Best of luck to those running!
sue :)

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#8569

From: "Janice Burford" <lovesyoyo@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:51 am
Subject: wed run

lovessixam

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