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You point out, very rightly, that this isn't entirely Gruden's fault or coincidence. However, I do believe it to have some measure of bad luck.

Johnson, was never Gruden's guy, was a statue and was old, all things we said we didn't want in a QB. So we brought in Brian...

Griese, was mobile, supposedly had "grown up" after some problems trying to be John Elway in Denver. He was doing well, but was older. The draft brought us a QB we didn't really want but had to take (his "prospective value" was WAY to high to let him drop lower). Griese started a 2nd year, but injury bug bit and brought on...

Simms. Another statue. Big arm, accurate, both good things. Weak football IQ (at least at NFL level, he made some terrible decisions and couldn't seem to look past his number 1 receiver (or his O-line!)). Simms grew as the year progressed and actually had a lot of people believing that he just might be the guy when the bug bit again...

Grad. Here is the guy who Jon thought would be the man. He had all the "it" factors that Gruden likes. He had the fact that he was from a small school going for him, so we got him cheap. He was supposed to be the steal of the draft. But, he got forced to work too soon. He didn't make the transition like the Bucs hoped. He never showed signs of "getting it". He just looked lost sometimes.

Enter Garcia. Finally, someone who could run things. But he takes chances he shouldn't. He drives the coaches wild with his near season-ending injury escapes. They put pressure on him to change, he gets ticked, they get ticked, you get what we've got.

IMO, they'll try to ride Griese for one or two years. They want Luke to be the man, but he is struggling to "get it", too. So, they'll slowly develop JJ. Watch for him to "come out of nowhere" in about 2 years.

Just my $0.02.

Charles "Ish" Engle

"And you shall call his name Ishmael,
because the Lord has given heed to
your affliction." Gen 16:11b

----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Fanguiaire <bucdrew55@...>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:16:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia

I'm not saying this is entirely Gruden's fault, but our inability to keep the same QB for more than year or two is not just coincidence or bad luck. Bear in mind, the QB's you name below...Manning, Brady and Favre, all were either drafted by the team they are still with, or in the case of Favre acquired in a trade shortly after being drafted. That's why I would rather see Luke McCown start now than Griese...we already know what Griese's ceiling is, and at his best he is an average quarterback who will know doubt be left at the alter next year when Gruden's wandering eye finds a new target to lust after. Michael Vick anyone? (I say that jokingly...I hope...)

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Jane Taylor <janieinfl@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Jane Taylor <janieinfl@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 11:18 PM

I will not place the blame on Coach. How well was the player performing? What was happening behind the scenes... do we know? Keeping the Team together, the Coach is responsible for that & making things happen.... lotsa stuff could've come down...maybe it's just poor performance issues... problem is - we just don't know. There's big money & big egos involved, as well as a lot is at stake. You are right that the Farve affair may have caused a big shake-up, but you may also consider that you can't be the starting QB & come out "rusty" & play like crap either. Garcia's a good person, just hope things work out for all involved. Personally I would like to have the same starting QB for a few seasons at least! Seems like it's this way every year. I wish for a Bucs QB to have longevity with the team like Brady to the Pats, Farve was to the Cheeseheads, Peyton to the Colts, plus some of the old greats... will the Bucs ever find a worthy one? Was/is it Garcia? Was it Brad Johnson?

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@ verizon.net> wrote:

From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@ verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 9:01 PM

Do we have a general manager or is Chucky?

----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Fanguiaire <bucdrew55@yahoo. com>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:37:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia

So we're going to cut a productive (not great, but productive) player because he and Gruden can't get along? Like Key and Gruden couldn't along? Like Simms and Gruden couldn't get along? I'm not sure I like this pattern...

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, sean george <geobuc13@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: sean george <geobuc13@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:10 PM

This kinda thing happens alot around one buc....

----- Original Message ----
From: Mike G <MGostischa@Hotmail. com>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:40:44 PM
Subject: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia

You wanted something to talk about? Well here we go.

http://www.profootb alltalk.com/ 2008/09/11/ bucs-shopping- garcia/

BUCS SHOPPING GARCIA
Posted by Mike Florio on September 11, 2008, 11:58 a.m. EDT
A league source tells us that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are trying to
trade quarterback Jeff Garcia. Per the source, the Bucs are willing
to take anything they can get for Garcia, who's in the final season
of a two-year contract.

The problem is the relationship between Garcia and coach Jon Gruden.
They're "ready to kill each other," the source said.

It's so bad that there's a possibility (albeit slim at this point)
that the Bucs will ultimately cut Garcia.

On Wednesday, Gruden declared that Brian Griese will start for the
Bucs on Sunday against the Falcons. Garcia reportedly has an ankle
injury.

If Garcia is cut, he'll be entitled to receive the balance of his $2
million salary as termination pay.

#5015

From: Andrew Fanguiaire <bucdrew55@...>
Date: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:16 pm
Subject: Re: Bucs Shopping Garcia

bucdrew55

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--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Jane Taylor <janieinfl@...> wrote:

From: Jane Taylor <janieinfl@...>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 11:18 PM

I will not place the blame on Coach. How well was the player performing? What was happening behind the scenes... do we know? Keeping the Team together, the Coach is responsible for that & making things happen.... lotsa stuff could've come down...maybe it's just poor performance issues... problem is - we just don't know. There's big money & big egos involved, as well as a lot is at stake. You are right that the Farve affair may have caused a big shake-up, but you may also consider that you can't be the starting QB & come out "rusty" & play like crap either. Garcia's a good person, just hope things work out for all involved. Personally I would like to have the same starting QB for a few seasons at least! Seems like it's this way every year. I wish for a Bucs QB to have longevity with the team like Brady to the Pats, Farve was to the Cheeseheads, Peyton to the Colts, plus some of the old greats... will the Bucs ever find a worthy one? Was/is it Garcia? Was it Brad Johnson?

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@ verizon.net> wrote:

From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@ verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 9:01 PM

Do we have a general manager or is Chucky?

----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Fanguiaire <bucdrew55@yahoo. com>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:37:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia

So we're going to cut a productive (not great, but productive) player because he and Gruden can't get along? Like Key and Gruden couldn't along? Like Simms and Gruden couldn't get along? I'm not sure I like this pattern...

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, sean george <geobuc13@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: sean george <geobuc13@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:10 PM

This kinda thing happens alot around one buc....

----- Original Message ----
From: Mike G <MGostischa@Hotmail. com>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:40:44 PM
Subject: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia

You wanted something to talk about? Well here we go.

http://www.profootb alltalk.com/ 2008/09/11/ bucs-shopping- garcia/

BUCS SHOPPING GARCIA
Posted by Mike Florio on September 11, 2008, 11:58 a.m. EDT
A league source tells us that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are trying to
trade quarterback Jeff Garcia. Per the source, the Bucs are willing
to take anything they can get for Garcia, who's in the final season
of a two-year contract.

The problem is the relationship between Garcia and coach Jon Gruden.
They're "ready to kill each other," the source said.

It's so bad that there's a possibility (albeit slim at this point)
that the Bucs will ultimately cut Garcia.

On Wednesday, Gruden declared that Brian Griese will start for the
Bucs on Sunday against the Falcons. Garcia reportedly has an ankle
injury.

If Garcia is cut, he'll be entitled to receive the balance of his $2
million salary as termination pay.

#5014

From: Jane Taylor <janieinfl@...>
Date: Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:18 am
Subject: Re: Bucs Shopping Garcia

janieinfl

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I will not place the blame on Coach. How well was the player performing? What was happening behind the scenes... do we know? Keeping the Team together, the Coach is responsible for that & making things happen.... lotsa stuff could've come down...maybe it's just poor performance issues... problem is - we just don't know. There's big money & big egos involved, as well as a lot is at stake. You are right that the Farve affair may have caused a big shake-up, but you may also consider that you can't be the starting QB & come out "rusty" & play like crap either. Garcia's a good person, just hope things work out for all involved. Personally I would like to have the same starting QB for a few seasons at least! Seems like it's this way every year. I wish for a Bucs QB to have longevity with the team like Brady to the Pats, Farve was to the Cheeseheads, Peyton to the Colts, plus some of the old greats... will the Bucs ever find a worthy one? Was/is it Garcia? Was it Brad Johnson?

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@...> wrote:

From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@...>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 9:01 PM

Do we have a general manager or is Chucky?

----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Fanguiaire <bucdrew55@yahoo. com>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:37:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia

So we're going to cut a productive (not great, but productive) player because he and Gruden can't get along? Like Key and Gruden couldn't along? Like Simms and Gruden couldn't get along? I'm not sure I like this pattern...

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, sean george <geobuc13@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: sean george <geobuc13@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:10 PM

This kinda thing happens alot around one buc....

----- Original Message ----
From: Mike G <MGostischa@Hotmail. com>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:40:44 PM
Subject: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia

You wanted something to talk about? Well here we go.

http://www.profootb alltalk.com/ 2008/09/11/ bucs-shopping- garcia/

BUCS SHOPPING GARCIA
Posted by Mike Florio on September 11, 2008, 11:58 a.m. EDT
A league source tells us that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are trying to
trade quarterback Jeff Garcia. Per the source, the Bucs are willing
to take anything they can get for Garcia, who's in the final season
of a two-year contract.

The problem is the relationship between Garcia and coach Jon Gruden.
They're "ready to kill each other," the source said.

It's so bad that there's a possibility (albeit slim at this point)
that the Bucs will ultimately cut Garcia.

On Wednesday, Gruden declared that Brian Griese will start for the
Bucs on Sunday against the Falcons. Garcia reportedly has an ankle
injury.

If Garcia is cut, he'll be entitled to receive the balance of his $2
million salary as termination pay.

#5013

From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@...>
Date: Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:01 am
Subject: Re: Bucs Shopping Garcia

anthony19542003

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Do we have a general manager or is Chucky?

----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Fanguiaire <bucdrew55@...>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:37:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia

So we're going to cut a productive (not great, but productive) player because he and Gruden can't get along? Like Key and Gruden couldn't along? Like Simms and Gruden couldn't get along? I'm not sure I like this pattern...

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, sean george <geobuc13@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: sean george <geobuc13@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:10 PM

This kinda thing happens alot around one buc....

----- Original Message ----
From: Mike G <MGostischa@Hotmail. com>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:40:44 PM
Subject: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia

You wanted something to talk about? Well here we go.

http://www.profootb alltalk.com/ 2008/09/11/ bucs-shopping- garcia/

BUCS SHOPPING GARCIA
Posted by Mike Florio on September 11, 2008, 11:58 a.m. EDT
A league source tells us that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are trying to
trade quarterback Jeff Garcia. Per the source, the Bucs are willing
to take anything they can get for Garcia, who's in the final season
of a two-year contract.

The problem is the relationship between Garcia and coach Jon Gruden.
They're "ready to kill each other," the source said.

It's so bad that there's a possibility (albeit slim at this point)
that the Bucs will ultimately cut Garcia.

On Wednesday, Gruden declared that Brian Griese will start for the
Bucs on Sunday against the Falcons. Garcia reportedly has an ankle
injury.

If Garcia is cut, he'll be entitled to receive the balance of his $2
million salary as termination pay.

#5012

From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@...>
Date: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:58 am
Subject: Re: Bucs Shopping Garcia

anthony19542003

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Maybe the Bucs shouldn't have shovedBret the Great in Garcias face and all of the fans.

----- Original Message ----
From: Mike G <MGostischa@...>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:40:44 PM
Subject: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia

You wanted something to talk about? Well here we go.

http://www.profootb alltalk.com/ 2008/09/11/ bucs-shopping- garcia/

BUCS SHOPPING GARCIA
Posted by Mike Florio on September 11, 2008, 11:58 a.m. EDT
A league source tells us that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are trying to
trade quarterback Jeff Garcia. Per the source, the Bucs are willing
to take anything they can get for Garcia, who's in the final season
of a two-year contract.

The problem is the relationship between Garcia and coach Jon Gruden.
They're "ready to kill each other," the source said.

It's so bad that there's a possibility (albeit slim at this point)
that the Bucs will ultimately cut Garcia.

On Wednesday, Gruden declared that Brian Griese will start for the
Bucs on Sunday against the Falcons. Garcia reportedly has an ankle
injury.

If Garcia is cut, he'll be entitled to receive the balance of his $2
million salary as termination pay.

#5011

From: Michael Gostischa <MGostischa@...>
Date: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:29 am
Subject: RE: Bucs Shopping Garcia

mgostischa

Offline

And don't forget McCardell and Gruden; and Simeon Rice and Gruden; and Sapp and Gruden

To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
From: bucdrew55@...
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:37:20 -0700
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia

From: sean george <geobuc13@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:10 PM

This kinda thing happens alot around one buc....

----- Original Message ----
From: Mike G <MGostischa@Hotmail. com>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:40:44 PM
Subject: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia

You wanted something to talk about? Well here we go.

http://www.profootb alltalk.com/ 2008/09/11/ bucs-shopping- garcia/

BUCS SHOPPING GARCIA
Posted by Mike Florio on September 11, 2008, 11:58 a.m. EDT
A league source tells us that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are trying to
trade quarterback Jeff Garcia. Per the source, the Bucs are willing
to take anything they can get for Garcia, who's in the final season
of a two-year contract.

The problem is the relationship between Garcia and coach Jon Gruden.
They're "ready to kill each other," the source said.

It's so bad that there's a possibility (albeit slim at this point)
that the Bucs will ultimately cut Garcia.

On Wednesday, Gruden declared that Brian Griese will start for the
Bucs on Sunday against the Falcons. Garcia reportedly has an ankle
injury.

If Garcia is cut, he'll be entitled to receive the balance of his $2
million salary as termination pay.

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#5010

From: Andrew Fanguiaire <bucdrew55@...>
Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:37 pm
Subject: Re: Bucs Shopping Garcia

bucdrew55

Offline

From: sean george <geobuc13@...>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:10 PM

This kinda thing happens alot around one buc....

----- Original Message ----
From: Mike G <MGostischa@Hotmail. com>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:40:44 PM
Subject: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia

You wanted something to talk about? Well here we go.

http://www.profootb alltalk.com/ 2008/09/11/ bucs-shopping- garcia/

BUCS SHOPPING GARCIA
Posted by Mike Florio on September 11, 2008, 11:58 a.m. EDT
A league source tells us that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are trying to
trade quarterback Jeff Garcia. Per the source, the Bucs are willing
to take anything they can get for Garcia, who's in the final season
of a two-year contract.

The problem is the relationship between Garcia and coach Jon Gruden.
They're "ready to kill each other," the source said.

It's so bad that there's a possibility (albeit slim at this point)
that the Bucs will ultimately cut Garcia.

On Wednesday, Gruden declared that Brian Griese will start for the
Bucs on Sunday against the Falcons. Garcia reportedly has an ankle
injury.

If Garcia is cut, he'll be entitled to receive the balance of his $2
million salary as termination pay.

#5009

From: sean george <geobuc13@...>
Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: Bucs Shopping Garcia

geobuc13

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This kinda thing happens alot around one buc....

----- Original Message ----
From: Mike G <MGostischa@...>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:40:44 PM
Subject: [Bucs] Bucs Shopping Garcia

#5008

From: "Mike G" <MGostischa@...>
Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:40 pm
Subject: Bucs Shopping Garcia

mgostischa

Offline

You wanted something to talk about? Well here we go.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/09/11/bucs-shopping-garcia/


BUCS SHOPPING GARCIA
Posted by Mike Florio on September 11, 2008, 11:58 a.m. EDT
A league source tells us that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are trying to
trade quarterback Jeff Garcia.  Per the source, the Bucs are willing
to take anything they can get for Garcia, who's in the final season
of a two-year contract.

The problem is the relationship between Garcia and coach Jon Gruden.
They're "ready to kill each other," the source said.

It's so bad that there's a possibility (albeit slim at this point)
that the Bucs will ultimately cut Garcia.

On Wednesday, Gruden declared that Brian Griese will start for the
Bucs on Sunday against the Falcons.  Garcia reportedly has an ankle
injury.

If Garcia is cut, he'll be entitled to receive the balance of his $2
million salary as termination pay.

#5007

From: Andrew Fanguiaire <bucdrew55@...>
Date: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: simms

bucdrew55

Offline

Let me add my get-well wishes...hopefully the Bucs will batten down the hatches and give you a nice relaxing Sunday afternoon this week.

It looks like Griese is going to start, though I'm not certain I agree...we've seen Griese here before and there's a reason he's played for what seems like half the teams in the NFL. I think I'd rather let Luke McCown play...he brings athleticism and a much greater upside. Whoever starts at QB, I would really just like to see more of the running game...be it Warrick, Graham or Bennet.

Andy

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Janie <janieinfl@...> wrote:

From: Janie <janieinfl@...>
Subject: [Bucs] simms
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 2:34 PM

Just heard that Chris Simms was signed by the Titans as a back-up QB.
He will not be taking Tom Brady's spot after-all. Who's # 2 for Bucs.
Is it Griese or McGown?

(Thanks Rev)

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#5006

From: "Janie" <janieinfl@...>
Date: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:34 pm
Subject: simms

janieinfl

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Just heard that Chris Simms was signed by the Titans as a back-up QB.
He will not be taking Tom Brady's spot after-all. Who's # 2 for Bucs.
Is it Griese or McGown?

(Thanks Rev)

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#5005

From: Ish Engle <reverend_ish@...>
Date: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:01 pm
Subject: Re: ??????

reverend_ish

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What were you in for? Nothing serious, I hope!

Get better, I'm praying for you.

Charles "Ish" Engle

"And you shall call his name Ishmael,
because the Lord has given heed to
your affliction." Gen 16:11b

Read my mind at "http://livethetwo.wordpress.com/"

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@ verizon.net> wrote:

From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@ verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:28 AM

i hope you are better soon Jane

----- Original Message ----
From: "bogenrim@windstrea m.net" <bogenrim@windstream .net>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 10:07:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????

Best wishes for a speedy recovery, Jane! Hope you're feeling better soon!
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> From: Jane Taylor <janieinfl@yahoo. com>
> Date: 2008/09/09 Tue PM 06:51:08 CDT
> To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????
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> I agree. Really enjoyed the duo Graham & Dunn.
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> Now concerned about next game. Garcia's questionable. Who will start? Luke or Griese?
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> I watched the game in a hospital bed this weekend. In the cardiac unit... I was on a heart monitor, I must've displayed some erractic patterns to the monitor watch station.... Anyway, I am grateful to be home now & feeling much better.) Was a disappointment this game result, had showed a lot of promise, some blown chances. Yes. It makes a loss even worse when there are some bad calls too. Couldn't help thinking also that we can not start all the players that have not been playing much nor practicing often in the pre-season. This includes key players. No exception. Their performance lacks. It was reflected in this game. "Rusty". I was afraid of that.
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> Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????
> To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:25 PM
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#5004

From: Jane Taylor <janieinfl@...>
Date: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: ??????

janieinfl

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thank you both!

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@...> wrote:

From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@...>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:28 AM

i hope you are better soon Jane

----- Original Message ----
From: "bogenrim@windstrea m.net" <bogenrim@windstream .net>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 10:07:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????

Best wishes for a speedy recovery, Jane! Hope you're feeling better soon!
>
> From: Jane Taylor <janieinfl@yahoo. com>
> Date: 2008/09/09 Tue PM 06:51:08 CDT
> To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????
>
> I agree. Really enjoyed the duo Graham & Dunn.
>
> Now concerned about next game. Garcia's questionable. Who will start? Luke or Griese?
>
> I watched the game in a hospital bed this weekend. In the cardiac unit... I was on a heart monitor, I must've displayed some erractic patterns to the monitor watch station.... Anyway, I am grateful to be home now & feeling much better.) Was a disappointment this game result, had showed a lot of promise, some blown chances. Yes. It makes a loss even worse when there are some bad calls too. Couldn't help thinking also that we can not start all the players that have not been playing much nor practicing often in the pre-season. This includes key players. No exception. Their performance lacks. It was reflected in this game. "Rusty". I was afraid of that.
>
> Did you hear Brady's (Patriots) out for the season & Chris Simms may become their starter?
>
>
> ,
> --- On Mon, 9/8/08, bogenrim@windstream .net <bogenrim@windstream .net> wrote:
>
> From: bogenrim@windstream .net <bogenrim@windstream .net>
> Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????
> To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:25 PM
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>
> Looks like many of the same folks here as last year, Anthony! Hey, everyone - remember the Super Bowl run in 2002 started with a loss to NO 26-20 in OT. The O-line needs to shore it up and the defense looked shaky at times w/o Brooks. It's a 16-game season, folks - Atlanta at home next week! Dunn definitely adds a dimension to the running game as compared to Graham's downhill pounding style...
> >
> > From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@ verizon.net>
> > Date: 2008/09/08 Mon PM 12:15:33 CDT
> > To: BUCS <BUCS@YAHOOGROUPS. COM>
> > Subject: [Bucs] ??????
> >
> > Where are all the Bucsfans?
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#5003

From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@...>
Date: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: ??????

anthony19542003

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i hope you are better soon Jane

----- Original Message ----
From: "bogenrim@..." <bogenrim@...>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 10:07:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????

Best wishes for a speedy recovery, Jane! Hope you're feeling better soon!
>
> From: Jane Taylor <janieinfl@yahoo. com>
> Date: 2008/09/09 Tue PM 06:51:08 CDT
> To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????
>
> I agree. Really enjoyed the duo Graham & Dunn.
>
> Now concerned about next game. Garcia's questionable. Who will start? Luke or Griese?
>
> I watched the game in a hospital bed this weekend. In the cardiac unit... I was on a heart monitor, I must've displayed some erractic patterns to the monitor watch station.... Anyway, I am grateful to be home now & feeling much better.) Was a disappointment this game result, had showed a lot of promise, some blown chances. Yes. It makes a loss even worse when there are some bad calls too. Couldn't help thinking also that we can not start all the players that have not been playing much nor practicing often in the pre-season. This includes key players. No exception. Their performance lacks. It was reflected in this game. "Rusty". I was afraid of that.
>
> Did you hear Brady's (Patriots) out for the season & Chris Simms may become their starter?
>
>
> ,
> --- On Mon, 9/8/08, bogenrim@windstream .net <bogenrim@windstream .net> wrote:
>
> From: bogenrim@windstream .net <bogenrim@windstream .net>
> Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????
> To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:25 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks like many of the same folks here as last year, Anthony! Hey, everyone - remember the Super Bowl run in 2002 started with a loss to NO 26-20 in OT. The O-line needs to shore it up and the defense looked shaky at times w/o Brooks. It's a 16-game season, folks - Atlanta at home next week! Dunn definitely adds a dimension to the running game as compared to Graham's downhill pounding style...
> >
> > From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@ verizon.net>
> > Date: 2008/09/08 Mon PM 12:15:33 CDT
> > To: BUCS <BUCS@YAHOOGROUPS. COM>
> > Subject: [Bucs] ??????
> >
> > Where are all the Bucsfans?
> >
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#5002

From: <bogenrim@...>
Date: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:07 am
Subject: Re: ??????

bogenrim

Offline

Best wishes for a speedy recovery, Jane! Hope you're feeling better soon!
>
> From: Jane Taylor <janieinfl@...>
> Date: 2008/09/09 Tue PM 06:51:08 CDT
> To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????
>
> I agree. Really enjoyed the duo Graham &�Dunn.
> �
> �Now concerned about next game. Garcia's questionable. Who will start? Luke or
Griese?
> �
> � I watched�the game in a hospital bed this weekend. In the cardiac unit...�I
was on a heart monitor,� I must've displayed�some erractic patterns to the
monitor watch station.... �Anyway, I am�grateful to be home now & feeling much
better.)� Was a disappointment this game result,�had showed a lot of promise,
some blown chances. Yes. It makes a loss even worse when there are some bad
calls too.�Couldn't help thinking also that we can not start all the players
that have not been playing much nor practicing often in the pre-season. �This
includes key players. No exception. Their performance lacks. It was reflected in
this game.� "Rusty". I was afraid of that.
> �
> Did you hear Brady's (Patriots) out for the season & Chris Simms may become
their starter?
> �
>
> ,
> --- On Mon, 9/8/08, bogenrim@... <bogenrim@...> wrote:
>
> From: bogenrim@... <bogenrim@...>
> Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????
> To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:25 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks like many of the same folks here as last year, Anthony! Hey, everyone -
remember the Super Bowl run in 2002 started with a loss to NO 26-20 in OT. The
O-line needs to shore it up and the defense looked shaky at times w/o Brooks.
It's a 16-game season, folks - Atlanta at home next week! Dunn definitely adds a
dimension to the running game as compared to Graham's downhill pounding style...
> >
> > From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@ verizon.net>
> > Date: 2008/09/08 Mon PM 12:15:33 CDT
> > To: BUCS <BUCS@YAHOOGROUPS. COM>
> > Subject: [Bucs] ??????
> >
> > Where are all the Bucsfans?
> >
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#5001

From: Jane Taylor <janieinfl@...>
Date: Tue Sep 9, 2008 11:51 pm
Subject: Re: ??????

janieinfl

Offline

I agree. Really enjoyed the duo Graham & Dunn.

Now concerned about next game. Garcia's questionable. Who will start? Luke or Griese?

I watched the game in a hospital bed this weekend. In the cardiac unit... I was on a heart monitor, I must've displayed some erractic patterns to the monitor watch station.... Anyway, I am grateful to be home now & feeling much better.) Was a disappointment this game result, had showed a lot of promise, some blown chances. Yes. It makes a loss even worse when there are some bad calls too. Couldn't help thinking also that we can not start all the players that have not been playing much nor practicing often in the pre-season. This includes key players. No exception. Their performance lacks. It was reflected in this game. "Rusty". I was afraid of that.

Did you hear Brady's (Patriots) out for the season & Chris Simms may become their starter?

,
--- On Mon, 9/8/08, bogenrim@... <bogenrim@...> wrote:

From: bogenrim@... <bogenrim@...>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:25 PM

Looks like many of the same folks here as last year, Anthony! Hey, everyone - remember the Super Bowl run in 2002 started with a loss to NO 26-20 in OT. The O-line needs to shore it up and the defense looked shaky at times w/o Brooks. It's a 16-game season, folks - Atlanta at home next week! Dunn definitely adds a dimension to the running game as compared to Graham's downhill pounding style...
>
> From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@ verizon.net>
> Date: 2008/09/08 Mon PM 12:15:33 CDT
> To: BUCS <BUCS@YAHOOGROUPS. COM>
> Subject: [Bucs] ??????
>
> Where are all the Bucsfans?
>

#5000

From: Jane Taylor <janieinfl@...>
Date: Tue Sep 9, 2008 11:51 pm
Subject: Re: ??????

janieinfl

Offline

I agree. Really enjoyed the duo Graham & Dunn.

Now concerned about next game. Garcia's questionable. Who will start? Luke or Griese?

Did you hear Brady's (Patriots) out for the season & Chris Simms may become their starter?

,
--- On Mon, 9/8/08, bogenrim@... <bogenrim@...> wrote:

From: bogenrim@... <bogenrim@...>
Subject: Re: [Bucs] ??????
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:25 PM

Looks like many of the same folks here as last year, Anthony! Hey, everyone - remember the Super Bowl run in 2002 started with a loss to NO 26-20 in OT. The O-line needs to shore it up and the defense looked shaky at times w/o Brooks. It's a 16-game season, folks - Atlanta at home next week! Dunn definitely adds a dimension to the running game as compared to Graham's downhill pounding style...
>
> From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@ verizon.net>
> Date: 2008/09/08 Mon PM 12:15:33 CDT
> To: BUCS <BUCS@YAHOOGROUPS. COM>
> Subject: [Bucs] ??????
>
> Where are all the Bucsfans?
>

#4999

From: "Robbie Rauch" <thrump77@...>
Date: Tue Sep 9, 2008 1:05 am
Subject: RE: We lost....

thrumpskin

Offline

I agree…..did anyone else notice that the saints had a four man defensive front and was still able to get to Garcia. b/c of this he had to go straight to the outlet receiver or the primary without having the time to look for anything else. When the defense puts 4 on the front…you have 7 other defensive men to pick up the pass and make it double coverage or when they pick up the run they can bring in multiple and stifle an already overwhelmed offensive line.

I think we lost yesterday b/c the o-line was not able to give Garcia the time he needed. Look at all the time drew had when he was in the pocket. Very lopsided if you ask me.

From: Bucs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bucs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of beastofbabylon@...
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:53 PM
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bucs] We lost....

joey isnt a threat anymore ?? really? i kind of think that when the o line blocks like that its hard to get the ball to anyone ...except the quick dump off passes ... but i guess we will see by the end of the season if joey isnt a threat anymore

In a message dated 9/7/2008 3:50:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dgraham330@verizon.net writes:

The Bucs did not address the wide receiver position during the off season, despite ample cap room. Joey is not a threat anymore. Other teams see this and all they have to do is stop the run. Result….. a loss.

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#4998

From: <bogenrim@...>
Date: Mon Sep 8, 2008 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: ??????

bogenrim

Offline

Looks like many of the same folks here as last year, Anthony! Hey, everyone -
remember the Super Bowl run in 2002 started with a loss to NO 26-20 in OT. The
O-line needs to shore it up and the defense looked shaky at times w/o Brooks.
It's a 16-game season, folks - Atlanta at home next week! Dunn definitely adds a
dimension to the running game as compared to Graham's downhill pounding style...
>
> From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@...>
> Date: 2008/09/08 Mon PM 12:15:33 CDT
> To: BUCS <BUCS@YAHOOGROUPS.COM>
> Subject: [Bucs] ??????
>
> Where are all the Bucsfans?
>

#4997

From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@...>
Date: Mon Sep 8, 2008 5:15 pm
Subject: ??????

anthony19542003

Offline

Where are all the Bucsfans?

#4996

From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@...>
Date: Mon Sep 8, 2008 2:05 am
Subject: Re: Nuts!

anthony19542003

Offline

How about an offensive line to give Garcia time to

throw the ball

The vaunted Tampa 2 stank it up today. Where in the hell is this great Jon Gruden offense? I AM STILL WAITING FOR IT. They didn't win because they didn't deserve too.

----- Original Message ----
From: Ish Engle <reverend_ish@...>
To: Bucs <Bucs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2008 4:15:42 PM
Subject: [Bucs] Nuts!

I don't know why:

    A) Gaines wasn't held;
    B) We got the pass interference call;
    C) The Saints could push late and it wasn't "unsportsman- like";
    D) the official who Bush slid into (out of bounds) on his way to the end-zone was over-ruled about Bush being out;

Ok, ok, I'll stop whining about the officiating. It felt one-sided to me, but it usually does. We fought to the end against a team that everyone says is "the best".
I guess what upset me the most was that it was one-sided on the announcers as well. The Bucs would make a great play, and we'd hear about how great the Saints were at the same play. The Saints would give up a big run, and we'd hear about how the Saints were making that an effort until they stopped a run, and then we'd hear about how great they were at stopping the run. TELL ME ABOUT THE BUCS!!!!

Ok, rant over. Thanks for sympathizing.

Charles "Ish" Engle

"And you shall call his name Ishmael,
because the Lord has given heed to
your affliction." Gen 16:11b

Read my mind at "http://livethetwo. wordpress. com/"

#4995

From: beastofbabylon@...
Date: Sun Sep 7, 2008 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: We lost....

celticwarrio...

Offline

In a message dated 9/7/2008 3:50:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dgraham330@... writes:

The Bucs did not address the wide receiver position during the off season, despite ample cap room. Joey is not a threat anymore. Other teams see this and all they have to do is stop the run. Result….. a loss.

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#4994

From: beastofbabylon@...
Date: Sun Sep 7, 2008 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: Nuts!

celticwarrio...

Offline

E) bush facemasked AGAIN on the end of that play and it was never called !

In a message dated 9/7/2008 3:16:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, reverend_ish@... writes:

I don't know why:

    A) Gaines wasn't held;
    B) We got the pass interference call;
    C) The Saints could push late and it wasn't "unsportsman-like";
    D) the official who Bush slid into (out of bounds) on his way to the end-zone was over-ruled about Bush being out;

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#4993

From: "DAVID GRAHAM" <dgraham330@...>
Date: Sun Sep 7, 2008 8:47 pm
Subject: We lost....

Sportzomby

Offline

The Bucs did not address the wide receiver position during the off season, despite ample cap room. Joey is not a threat anymore. Other teams see this and all they have to do is stop the run. Result….. a loss.

#4992

From: "macoronimacoronimacoronimacoroni" <macoronimacoronimacoronimacoroni@...>
Date: Sun Sep 7, 2008 8:44 pm
Subject: Re: " Where are all the Bucs fans.... long time passing" I miss you people!

macoronimaco...

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well this buc fan is despairing over our loss to the saints...though
i still have plenty of faith in them but losing our first game to
division rivals is pretty bad for me

--- In Bucs@yahoogroups.com, sean george <geobuc13@...> wrote:
>
> Go Bucs!!!!! Hey, when the saints' home is destroyed (again), how
far are we going to have to go  to play them?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@...>
> To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2008 11:17:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [Bucs] " Where are all the Bucs fans.... long time
passing"  I miss you people!
>
>
> We are out here . I like the Bucs for 10 and 6 or 11 and 5. I GUESS
I AM A fAVRE HATER CAUSE GOD KNOWS i didnt want him in Tampa.    1st
game Bucs 24 Saints 17 go Bucssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssss
ssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssss ss
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Janie <janieinfl@yahoo. com>
> To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2008 1:49:46 AM
> Subject: [Bucs] " Where are all the Bucs fans.... long time
passing" I miss you people!
>
>
> Where are all our people. Hello everyone, It's Football Season ...
> is anyone here? Andrew, Anthony, Rev. Ish, Tena, Michelle, Joao,
> Beast.. and where's Leo? (sorry if I didn't name you all, you are
all
> valued members of this esteemed group. We have 246 members & no one
> has anything to say about the opening game. This is crazy. Do we
not
> look forward to this all year long & don't we all enjoy all you all
> so much talking about our favorite topic - The Tampa Bay
Buccaneers.
> I sure do! Okay, so do we need to initiate a new topic like "Farve"
> again. c'mon. I miss our people. Please don't make me get a life.
> (hahaha)
>
> What do you all think about the cuts? Simms gone now. How about
that?
> No surprise. Griese should be the number 2 QB it looks like. He's
> great, knows the system well. Luke looked good too this pre-season.
> And how about that, we got another Johnson in the QB line up. Sure
> hope that Jeff is going to come through for us. After his injury,
he
> looked pretty rusty. What do you think? What teams are the
favorites
> on the predictions this year? What are the Bucs ranked this season.
> Leo always started off with a strong record prediction for each
> season. Ok Leo what do you predict this year? The Superbowl will be
> at the RJ Stadium this year, how cool would that be for the Bucs to
> be playing a SB at home? Very cool indeed!!!!
>

#4991

From: Ish Engle <reverend_ish@...>
Date: Sun Sep 7, 2008 8:15 pm
Subject: Nuts!

reverend_ish

Offline

I don't know why:

    A) Gaines wasn't held;
    B) We got the pass interference call;
    C) The Saints could push late and it wasn't "unsportsman-like";
    D) the official who Bush slid into (out of bounds) on his way to the end-zone was over-ruled about Bush being out;

Ok, ok, I'll stop whining about the officiating. It felt one-sided to me, but it usually does. We fought to the end against a team that everyone says is "the best".
I guess what upset me the most was that it was one-sided on the announcers as well. The Bucs would make a great play, and we'd hear about how great the Saints were at the same play. The Saints would give up a big run, and we'd hear about how the Saints were making that an effort until they stopped a run, and then we'd hear about how great they were at stopping the run. TELL ME ABOUT THE BUCS!!!!

Ok, rant over. Thanks for sympathizing.

Charles "Ish" Engle

"And you shall call his name Ishmael,
because the Lord has given heed to
your affliction." Gen 16:11b

Read my mind at "http://livethetwo.wordpress.com/"

#4990

From: sean george <geobuc13@...>
Date: Sat Sep 6, 2008 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: " Where are all the Bucs fans.... long time passing" I miss you people!

geobuc13

Offline

Go Bucs!!!!! Hey, when the saints' home is destroyed (again), how far are we going to have to go to play them?

----- Original Message ----
From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@...>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2008 11:17:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Bucs] " Where are all the Bucs fans.... long time passing" I miss you people!

We are out here . I like the Bucs for 10 and 6 or 11 and 5. I GUESS I AM A fAVRE HATER CAUSE GOD KNOWS i didnt want him in Tampa. 1st game Bucs 24 Saints 17 go Bucssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssss ss

----- Original Message ----
From: Janie <janieinfl@yahoo. com>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2008 1:49:46 AM
Subject: [Bucs] " Where are all the Bucs fans.... long time passing" I miss you people!

Where are all our people. Hello everyone, It's Football Season ...
is anyone here? Andrew, Anthony, Rev. Ish, Tena, Michelle, Joao,
Beast.. and where's Leo? (sorry if I didn't name you all, you are all
valued members of this esteemed group. We have 246 members & no one
has anything to say about the opening game. This is crazy. Do we not
look forward to this all year long & don't we all enjoy all you all
so much talking about our favorite topic - The Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
I sure do! Okay, so do we need to initiate a new topic like "Farve"
again. c'mon. I miss our people. Please don't make me get a life.
(hahaha)

What do you all think about the cuts? Simms gone now. How about that?
No surprise. Griese should be the number 2 QB it looks like. He's
great, knows the system well. Luke looked good too this pre-season.
And how about that, we got another Johnson in the QB line up. Sure
hope that Jeff is going to come through for us. After his injury, he
looked pretty rusty. What do you think? What teams are the favorites
on the predictions this year? What are the Bucs ranked this season.
Leo always started off with a strong record prediction for each
season. Ok Leo what do you predict this year? The Superbowl will be
at the RJ Stadium this year, how cool would that be for the Bucs to
be playing a SB at home? Very cool indeed!!!!

#4989

From: beastofbabylon@...
Date: Sat Sep 6, 2008 11:20 am
Subject: Re: " Where are all the Bucs fans.... long time passing" I miss you p...

celticwarrio...

Offline

sorry i been kinda wrapped up in work and fantasy football .. people will be back very soon .. if the bucs go on a big win streak or the first time they lose ...

i actually sad that parris warren didn't make the team i was pulling for him to come back like he did last preseason .. i think we shoulda made that trade we were "supposedly " offered for simms during the draft. i am very happy garcia will be back under center this year and we will have earnest behind him. and warrick has his homecoming soon, and bennett seems to have finally learned the offense .. and the depth chart had mccown listed as #2 last time i saw it.... all that being said in every single draft i picked tampa as my defense so make the saints walk the plank boys ...

also on a different note, why couldn't we sign warren sapp to a one day contract so he could retire as a buc?? come on!! and has anyone picked up lynch after ne released him??

In a message dated 9/6/2008 12:49:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time, janieinfl@... writes:

Where are all our people. Hello everyone, It's Football Season ...
is anyone here? Andrew, Anthony, Rev. Ish, Tena, Michelle, Joao,
Beast.. and where's Leo? (sorry if I didn't name you all, you are all
valued members of this esteemed group. We have 246 members & no one
has anything to say about the opening game. This is crazy. Do we not
look forward to this all year long & don't we all enjoy all you all
so much talking about our favorite topic - The Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
I sure do! Okay, so do we need to initiate a new topic like "Farve"
again. c'mon. I miss our people. Please don't make me get a life.
(hahaha)

What do you all think about the cuts? Simms gone now. How about that?
No surprise. Griese should be the number 2 QB it looks like. He's
great, knows the system well. Luke looked good too this pre-season.
And how about that, we got another Johnson in the QB line up. Sure
hope that Jeff is going to come through for us. After his injury, he
looked pretty rusty. What do you think? What teams are the favorites
on the predictions this year? What are the Bucs ranked this season.
Leo always started off with a strong record prediction for each
season. Ok Leo what do you predict this year? The Superbowl will be
at the RJ Stadium this year, how cool would that be for the Bucs to
be playing a SB at home? Very cool indeed!!!!

Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (1)

#4988

From: Anthony White <aniyaspoppop@...>
Date: Sat Sep 6, 2008 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: " Where are all the Bucs fans.... long time passing" I miss you people!

anthony19542003

Offline

We are out here . I like the Bucs for 10 and 6 or 11 and 5. I GUESS I AM A fAVRE HATER CAUSE GOD KNOWS i didnt want him in Tampa. 1st game Bucs 24 Saints 17 go Bucssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

----- Original Message ----
From: Janie <janieinfl@...>
To: Bucs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2008 1:49:46 AM
Subject: [Bucs] " Where are all the Bucs fans.... long time passing" I miss you people!

#4987

From: "Janie" <janieinfl@...>
Date: Sat Sep 6, 2008 5:49 am
Subject: " Where are all the Bucs fans.... long time passing" I miss you people!

janieinfl

Offline

Where are all our people.  Hello everyone, It's Football Season ...
is anyone here?  Andrew, Anthony, Rev. Ish, Tena, Michelle, Joao,
Beast.. and where's Leo? (sorry if I didn't name you all, you are all
valued members of this esteemed group. We have 246 members & no one
has anything to say about the opening game.  This is crazy. Do we not
look forward to this all year long & don't we all enjoy all you all
so much talking about our favorite topic -  The Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
I sure do!  Okay, so do we need to initiate a new topic like "Farve"
again. c'mon. I miss our people. Please don't make me get a life.
(hahaha)

What do you all think about the cuts? Simms gone now. How about that?
No surprise. Griese should be the number 2 QB it looks like. He's
great, knows the system well. Luke looked good too this pre-season.
And how about that, we got another Johnson in the QB line up. Sure
hope that Jeff is going to come through for us. After his injury, he
looked pretty rusty. What do you think?  What teams are the favorites
on the predictions this year?  What are the Bucs ranked this season.
Leo always started off with a strong record prediction for each
season. Ok Leo what do you predict this year? The Superbowl will be
at the RJ Stadium this year, how cool would that be for the Bucs to
be playing a SB at home? Very cool indeed!!!!