Hi Ray.
I believe that only Vittoria & Topeak offer extenders that require you to remove
the valve core before installation. I don't recommend this type of extender
because they are usually much heavier and don't offer any real advantage.
All of the other valve extenders out there (like Problem Solvers, Tufo, Zipp,
etc.) just screw onto your standard tube valve (after you first unscrew your
tube's presta valve tip all the way out). Plumber's teflon tape does help keep
any air from leaking when you inflate the tube, but it is not essential, so if
you have to move the extender to a new tube for an on-the-road flat repair you
don't need to worry about wrapping the valve stem with plumbers tape first.
As far as tubes go, I don't think you will find a tube with a stem long enough
for a 60mm deep rim without using a valve extender. Even if you did, it would
still be a good idea to bring an extender along in your saddle bag. We've all
had cases where we needed to borrow a buddy's tube in an emergency.

Regards,
Michael


--- In Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com, "raysales" <raysales@...> wrote:
>
> hey all, i'm hoping to get recommendations for presta valve extenders when
using aero or deeper, up to 60 mm, type of clincher wheel sets.
>
> it seems the easiest sol'n would be to get the longest tire tube valves as
possible that meets the minimum wheel rim depth so that you'll be able to
inflate your tire when needed.  if your tube's valve doesn't happen to be long
enough then there seems to be various options for valve extenders.
>
> i've read reviews where the ones you have to screw on top of the valve
requires you first apply plumbers tape, otherwise, it'll eventually leak.  this
option though requires tire tubes that have removable valves or cores to begin
w/ which isn't the common type it seems.  are there recommendations for these
types of tubes as well?
> i know continental has some of these types which i have ordered online & still
waiting for.
>
> then there's ones by tufo, vittoria, & by topeak, i believe, where you unscrew
the tire valve core & use their extender at the base &/or in between the
original head & base.  these are supposed to be superior since you don't have to
worry about leaks & carrying plumber's tape around w/ you.
>
>
> others recommended pre-installing valve extenders which require the plumbers
tape onto your spare tube(s) so you don't have to fiddle w/ ththis when you need
to change it on the road.
>
> so, hoping i understand the various options & was wondering which is the best
way to go.
>
> ray
>

hey all, i'm hoping to get recommendations for presta valve extenders when using
aero or deeper, up to 60 mm, type of clincher wheel sets.

it seems the easiest sol'n would be to get the longest tire tube valves as
possible that meets the minimum wheel rim depth so that you'll be able to
inflate your tire when needed.  if your tube's valve doesn't happen to be long
enough then there seems to be various options for valve extenders.

i've read reviews where the ones you have to screw on top of the valve requires
you first apply plumbers tape, otherwise, it'll eventually leak.  this option
though requires tire tubes that have removable valves or cores to begin w/ which
isn't the common type it seems.  are there recommendations for these types of
tubes as well?
i know continental has some of these types which i have ordered online & still
waiting for.

then there's ones by tufo, vittoria, & by topeak, i believe, where you unscrew
the tire valve core & use their extender at the base &/or in between the
original head & base.  these are supposed to be superior since you don't have to
worry about leaks & carrying plumber's tape around w/ you.


others recommended pre-installing valve extenders which require the plumbers
tape onto your spare tube(s) so you don't have to fiddle w/ ththis when you need
to change it on the road.

so, hoping i understand the various options & was wondering which is the best
way to go.

ray

overall they are both great races, but I agree w/ the fact that NYC is not at
all worth the registration fee and their swag... cheap crap.

course-wise here are my thoughts:

NYC
(swim)
famous for being easily the easiest out of all the courses in the US because of
the strong current. each wave is about 100 people large and you jump off of a
dock and hang onto a rope before the sound of the horn. rumor has it, a bag of
Cheetos® can do the swim in under 40-min. over the past few years, the current
has been working on our side, however, last year (2008) the current switched
directions on swimmers 3/4 the wave starts and they pulled them out of the water
and had them start the rest of the race. you also may have to deal w/ jellyfish,
in 2008 they were freakishly in there and stinging like nobody's business. in
2009, they weren't in the water. and of course, the chemicals taste lovely!

(bike)
it is essentially an OAB (out and back) w/ little to no hard turns aside from
the hill/turn coming in and out of transition. there are a few gradual hills.
but nothing too major. it is not the flattest or most technical ride, but it
does pose a challenge because of congestion of the other athletes.

(run)
Central Park. if you do any road runner races, you have more than likely already
done the run course. Central Park is by no means the easiest 10K to hammer out
for the last part of a triathlon. you will contend w/ hills... rolling, gradual
and steep. the last part of the 10K takes you downhill and to the chute.

(overall)
great course, close to home and def one you can PR on, however the weather tends
to be a huge factor in that you are racing in mid-July when NYC is hot AND
humid. they offer no snaycks at the end and the swag, for what they charge,
ought to be much, MUCH better than it is.


PHILLY
(swim)
starts out in the Schuylkill River, which people in Philly react the same way
people in NYC react to the Hudson... gross and dirty. I however, really, really
enjoyed swimming in it and felt as though it tasted WAY better than Coney
Island. they bus you up to the start and you will have an in-water start. pretty
straight forward, you swim down to the swim-out on the riverbank. when I did it,
there was next to no current, so don't expect to bank on a ton of help.

(bike)
I consider this bike course to still be one of most challenging I have raced on
for (2) reasons: 1) it is very, very technical and 2) it is very, VERY
congested. if you are more on the novice side of cycling, take #1 into
consideration. you will contend with many turns, climbs, turns going into
climbs, uneven surfaces and it is (2) loops. the more novice racers make for
unsafe congestion, so you have to race while keeping in mind, riding
defensively, not just offensively.

(run)
the run course is as flat as a pancake. while I thought I would clock a PR on
this run course, the weather proved otherwise. it was hot and humid and I felt
luck to just finish. I did this race 2-yrs ago and it was not very well
organized on the run course. they had maybe 2 mile markers, so unless you had a
Garmin on your wrist, you were just sorta winging it until you hit the finish
line.

(overall)
I love this race and hope to come back and do it next year. the timing is more
idea in hopes of avoiding the hot and humid weather you would endure in the
middle of July (its at the end of June). they give out a descent swag bad and
the post race snaycks... ARE OFF THE HOOK. we had sub sandwiches, pizza, soft
pretzels, homemade cookies and fruit. the registration fee isn't too high and
it's close enough to NYC that you can caravan on out as a group.


hope this helps!
:miriam


--- In Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com, "Quesada, Fabian"
<fabian.quesada@...> wrote:
>
> And super expensive. Half ironmans are cheaper than the NYC Tri and come with
a better swag bag.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com
<Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com>
> To: brooklyn_triathlon_club@yahoogroups.com
<brooklyn_triathlon_club@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed Oct 28 11:33:32 2009
> Subject: RE: [Brooklyn Tri] NYC Vs PHILLY TRI
>
>
>
> I agree with Jon. After three years, the NYC Tri has become just too much of a
hassle to deal with.
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> To: Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com
> From: sailinengineer05@...
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:16:28 +0000
> Subject: [Brooklyn Tri] NYC Vs PHILLY TRI
>
>
> Reg for the NYC and Philly Tri are coming up and I am trying to decide on
which one to take on. Pro and cons of either race? Course differences? I did NY
this year and had a blast. I'm debating if I should diversify or go for a
rematch.
>
> Thanks
> Justin
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.
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>

Here are the NYC Marathon Trivia questions from last night's run for those that
couldn't make it.

:::::NYC MARATHON TRIVIA:::::
(See how many you can answer without using the internet)

1.  The first NYC Marathon was run in 1970.  In that first race only 55 of 127
starters finished the race.  Q:What was the entry fee runners paid to the NYRR
to participate?

2.  That first year all 26.2miles were run inside Central Park.  Q:How many
years was it until they expanded the course to the full 5 boroughs?

3.  The great Norwegian runner Grete Waitz  ran and won her first NYC marathon
in 1978. She went on to win the most NYC Marathons of any woman (or Man).  Q:How
many times did she win?

4.  Who was the last AMERICAN to win the New York City Marathon?
And what year?

5.  Which of the following celebrities has never run a New York City marathon:
A: Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee
B: Celebrity Chef Bobby Flay
C: Saved by the Bell Television Celebrity Mario López
D: or Former Van Halen front man David Lee Roth

6.  In what notable year was the Men's course record set?

7.  Last year's winner Paula Radcliffe holds the women's world record time of
2:15:25 (*over 3 minutes faster than any other woman as ever run)  Q:At what
other major city marathon did she do this?

8. BONUS:  What was her average pace?

FIND THE ANSWERS HERE:   http://tiny.cc/NYCMARATHON858



--- In Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com, "llopate72" <llopate@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> I'm leading the group run tomorrow night.
> Weather forecast is calling for rain, but I never trust the weatherman.
>
> Hopefully we can get everyone out for an easy taper run to wish good luck to
all the BTCers tackling the Marathon next Sunday.
> There will be a special NYC Marathon trivia contest with prizes!

> Len
>

And super expensive. Half ironmans are cheaper than the NYC Tri and come with a
better swag bag.

----- Original Message -----
From: Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com
<Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com>
To: brooklyn_triathlon_club@yahoogroups.com
<brooklyn_triathlon_club@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed Oct 28 11:33:32 2009
Subject: RE: [Brooklyn Tri] NYC Vs PHILLY TRI



I agree with Jon. After three years, the NYC Tri has become just too much of a
hassle to deal with.


________________________________

To: Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com
From: sailinengineer05@...
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:16:28 +0000
Subject: [Brooklyn Tri] NYC Vs PHILLY TRI


Reg for the NYC and Philly Tri are coming up and I am trying to decide on which
one to take on. Pro and cons of either race? Course differences? I did NY this
year and had a blast. I'm debating if I should diversify or go for a rematch.

Thanks
Justin




________________________________

New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.
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Reg for the NYC and Philly Tri are coming up and I am trying to decide on which
one to take on.  Pro and cons of either race?  Course differences? I did NY this
year and had a blast. I'm debating if I should diversify or go for a rematch.

Thanks
Justin

Hey guys,


There's a bar night benefit for my buddy Greg (of the Greg 5k) and the American
Cancer Society on Sunday after the marathon. He's headed to Indiana next week
for an ultra-invasive surgery to get rid of his last tumor.

Live music! Cheap drinks!

Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009
Time: 8:00pm - 11:55pm
Location: Bull's Head Tavern
Street: 23rd and 3rd Ave.


Details here:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=167937961990&ref=mf

-Jené

Hey Guys,

I'm leading the group run tomorrow night.
Weather forecast is calling for rain, but I never trust the weatherman.

Hopefully we can get everyone out for an easy taper run to wish good luck to all
the BTCers tackling the Marathon next Sunday.
There will be a special NYC Marathon trivia contest with prizes!

We'll meet at 7pm at Grand Army Plaza.  We meet inside the park, close to park
drive.

All speeds and abilities are welcome, hope to see some old and new faces out
there.

Serious downpours cancels the run, otherwise I will be there.

Len

----- Original Message -----

From: Ted Marcoux

To: Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:52 PM

Subject: [Brooklyn Tri] Electro Stim

 

Hey All,

 Here to clog up the board. Anybody have any incite on the use of electro stim to alleviate post-op pain? I know the science is a bit mixed but 3 weeks after shoulder surgery my innards are a pharmaceutical cesspool and I'm looking for an alternative (additional) way to manage pain. So what say you? Hook me up or pass the Percocet?

thanks,

Ted

hey guys:


the spring season for Team in Training is kicking off in a month. I'm mentoring
St. Anthony's triathlon again this season :) we have a bunch of info meetings
coming up in the area, see my blurb below for more info.

thx!
:miriam



are you new to the triathlon scene and looking for a great way to learn
everything there is to know about doing them? Team in Training is a program that
is dedicated to doing two things: 1) raising money for the Leukemia & Lymphoma
Society and 2) helping athletes, novice and advanced, train for endurance events
such as triathlons, marathons and century rides. the premise is simple: raising
money for cancer research in exchange for 5-6-mos of free professional coaching.

tri events coming up for Spring Season:
- St. Anthony's Triathlon (FLA)(Olympic)
- Wildflower (CA) (Olympic & 70.3)
- Devilman (NJ) (Half Lite & Sprint)

for the past 4-yrs I have been a part of this program as a mentor and continue
to support their cause each year bringing many new members to our club. if you
are looking for a way to get into shape for spring, to meet some new people or
simply feel like putting a good reason behind your insane training... then check
out one of the meetings coming up.

if you have any questions, please feel free to reach out. thanks!



Monday, October 26, 7:00PM
Pacific Standard (82 4th Ave btwn St. Marks + Bergen)

Saturday, November 7, 11:00AM
Carroll Gardens Brooklyn Library
396 Clinton Street (at Union St)

Monday, November 9, 7:00PM
reBar (147 Front Street(Btwn Jay & Pearl St))



(meetings in Manhattan)

Monday, November 2, 6:30PM
Whole Foods Market (95 East Houston St, btwn 2nd Ave & Bowery St)

Wednesday, November 4,6:30PM
The North Face Store (2101 Broadway @ 73rd St)

Wednesday, November 4, 6:30PM
Lesbian & Gay Community Center (208 West 13th St btwn 6th & 7th Ave)

Thursday, November 5, 6:30PM
The Leukemia and Lymphoma Society (475 Park Ave South, 8th Floor)

Wednesday, November  11, 7:00PM
Schulte, Roth & Zabel (919 Third Ave, 24th Floor(on 55th St))

Thursday, November 12, 7:00PM
Federation of Protestant Welfare Agencies (281 Park Ave South(on 22nd St)

Saturday, November 14, 11:00AM
Westside YMCA (5 West 63rd St btwn Broadway & Central Park West)

Tuesday, November 17, 6:30PM
KICK OFF(630 Second Avenue(Between 34th & 35th Streets)

Monday, November 23, 6:30pm
Equinox Gym (33rd & Park Avenue South)

Tuesday, November 24, 8:00am
Team In Training Office (475 Park Ave South, 8th Floor)

is that code for let's do a spur-of-the-moment BTC time trial on our tri bikes
on Saturday at 8:30AM? count me in!!!



--- In Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com, Emily Mellow <emilymello@...>
wrote:
>
> FYI Everyone - The Nike Human Race 10k is in Prospect Park Saturday morning
> at 8am.  Two loops of the park, there are signs around the park warning to
> expect congestion from 8-10am. If you're doing it, enjoy!  If you're not,
> maybe avoid.
>
> - Emily M.
>

Can anyone refresh my memory of the discount code we get for the city tri races?
thanks

Justin

Sold! To Andria.

--- In Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com, "Jene" <jeneshaw@...> wrote:
>
> Hey ladies (or small-footed men),
>
> I received a brand new pair of Saucony Triumphs (neutral, super-cushy shoe)
that would never fit my monster feet. If you want them, they are yours. Never
worn! They look like this --> http://tinyurl.com/yl2384h
>
>
> Jené
>

Hey ladies (or small-footed men),

I received a brand new pair of Saucony Triumphs (neutral, super-cushy shoe) that
would never fit my monster feet. If you want them, they are yours. Never worn!
They look like this --> http://tinyurl.com/yl2384h


Jené

Does anyone know if there is going to be early registration for this
like there was last year for USAT members?
thanks

Anyone doing the Schiff Scout Mountain Bike Duathlon on Sunday Nov 1 @ 11am.
Wading river, NY.   2/10/2 miles.  This is a flat, fast race great for beginners
or people looking for a pr. Course never gets muddy so dont worry about getting
dirty.  more info at www.dirtyevents.com

I'll be racing and have transportation if you need.

Great Thanks

i'll bring it along

--- In Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com, Emily <emilynyc@...> wrote:
>
> Paul, since you are taller, and we are having trouble finding a larger bike,
> I'd say bring your bike. I'll have alcohol there to clean the wheels.
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Swinnerton <pjs3212003@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Is it necessary for me to bring my own bike tonight to see how it feels on
> > the trainer?..
> >
> > --- In
Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com<Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club%40yahoogroups.co\
m>,
> > Emily <emilynyc@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Come by Jackrabbit tonight between 6:30 and 8PM to test out the trainers
> > > (described below). If you already know what you want, you can place your
> > > order directly with Jackrabbit (over the phone). These discounts are
> > great,
> > > and they are only available this week.
> > >
> > > *What*? Discounts on trainers for BTC Members
> > >
> > > *Where*: Place your order at JackRabbit.
> > >
> > > *How do I decide*? Not sure what trainer is right for you? Come to
> > > JackRabbit (Brooklyn location) this Tuesday October 20th from 6:30-8 to
> > test
> > > out trainers in real life.
> > >
> > > *When*? Orders must be placed by October 23rd.
> > >
> > > More details and prices, below.
> > >
> > > The gorgeous riding weather we have right now will soon turn to winter,
> > > when the cold, rain and snow makes it very inconvenient to ride outside.
> > > But there's no better time of year to improve your cycling. If you're
> > > trying to get faster or go longer, there's no substitute for weekly long
> > > efforts combined with shorter more intense rides. Even if you're not
> > > training for a spring race, riding over the winter is the single best way
> > to
> > > maintain your fitness so you can start strong next year. An indoor bike
> > > trainer is a fantastic tool because you have so much control over your
> > > workouts. You don't have to worry about snow or freezing rain or just
> > plain
> > > cold ruining your long sustained ride, and it's really easy to just hop
> > on
> > > for a 30-45 min hard ride in the morning before work.
> > >
> > > JackRabbit has put together a fantastic deal on indoor bike trainers for
> > > BTC members. By placing a big "pre-season" order, we're able to get very
> > > deep discounts from our vendors that simply aren't available once the
> > > weather gets colder. We're passing those discounts on to you. We've also
> > > looked hard to make sure we're offering the best product. Cyclops is
> > still
> > > the leader in magnetic trainers, but this year we're switching to the
> > Kurt
> > > Kinetic Road Trainer as our preferred fluid trainer instead of the
> > Cyclops
> > > Fluid2. Our experience testing them both at Interbike last week made it
> > > very clear that Kurt makes a better trainer, and the available upgrades
> > make
> > > it a trainer that you'll keep for several years. Practically every
> > reviewer
> > > who has tested both agrees:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
http://www.aboc.com.au/equipment-reviews/bicycle-parts-components-and-accessorie\
s/kurt-kinetic-road-machine-spin-trainer
> > >
> > > http://fitwerx.com/product-reviews/fluid-trainers-shootout
> > >
> > > http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/Gear/gear.asp?pid=460
> > >
> > > http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/reviews/kurt-kinetic.shtml
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In order to take advantage of this offer, you MUST place your order with
> > > JackRabbit by Sunday night Oct 23rd. We've set up a special night for BTC
> > > club members on Tuesday October 20th where you can come by the 7th Ave
> > store
> > > to check out the demo models and place orders – and get 15% off anything
> > > else in the store at the same time! You can also check out the bike
> > > protector and riser block while you're there. All orders must be paid in
> > > advance. Delivery is expected during the week of November 2nd – right
> > after
> > > the marathon and just in time for it to really start to get cold.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *We can only offer these special prices in October, because our vendors
> > have
> > > put a time limit on bulk discount orders. Hurry in to take advantage of
> > > these great deals!!*
> > > **** *Kurt Kinetic Road Trainer*
> > >
> > > · Quieter and smoother than CycleOps Fluid2
> > >
> > > · 100% leak-proof (sealed fluid chamber with magnetically coupled
> > > driveshaft )
> > >
> > > · More stable, better for standing drills (6.25 lb. flywheel)
> > >
> > > · Easy to use wheel locking mechanism
> > >
> > > - Lowest operating temperature of any fluid trainer
> > > - 2 1/8" roller reduces tire wear
> > > - Unconditional lifetime warranty
> > > - Valuable upgrades available, including power meter
> > >
> > > *MSRP: $369.99
> > > JackRabbit Regular Price: $349.99
> > > BTC Special Group Order Price: $289.99*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > **
> > >
> > > *CycleOps Mag Trainer*
> > >
> > > - Great for riders at any level
> > > - Lighter, better for travel
> > > - Magnetic trainers are less expensive than fluid trainers
> > > - Offers a steady level of resistance – you increase effort by changing
> > > gears.
> > > - Training DVD included
> > >
> > > *MSRP: $179.99
> > > JackRabbit Regular Price: $169.99
> > > BTC Special Order Group Price: $145.99*
> > >
> > > * *
> > >
> > > **
> > >
> > > *CycleOps Bike Protector (aka the "Bike Thong")*
> > >
> > > - Keeps sweat and sports drinks off your bike**
> > > - Handy pockets for TV remote, iPod, or phone**
> > > - Machine washable**
> > >
> > > *MSRP: $24.99*
> > >
> > > *JackRabbit Regular Price: $23.99*
> > >
> > > *BTC Special Order Group Price: $19.99*
> > >
> > > **
> > >
> > > *Leveling/Climbing Block*
> > >
> > > - Without a block for your front wheel, you're riding downhill!
> > > - Provides a stable, worry-free ride in any rear-mounted trainer.
> > > - Unique 3-level design lets you select the level of difficulty.
> > > - Stack two blocks to simulate climbing workouts.
> > > - Injection-molded construction is virtually indestructible.
> > > - Use 2 blocks for 12 different adjustment levels.
> > >
> > > * *
> > >
> > > *MSRP: $24.99*
> > >
> > > *JackRabbit Regular Price: $23.99*
> > >
> > > *BTC Special Order Group Price: $19.99*
> > >
> > > * *
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

Is it necessary for me to bring my own bike tonight to see how it feels on the
trainer?..

--- In Brooklyn_Triathlon_Club@yahoogroups.com, Emily <emilynyc@...> wrote:
>
> Come by Jackrabbit tonight between 6:30 and 8PM to test out the trainers
> (described below). If you already know what you want, you can place your
> order directly with Jackrabbit (over the phone). These discounts are great,
> and they are only available this week.
>
>   *What*? Discounts on trainers for BTC Members
>
> *Where*: Place your order at JackRabbit.
>
> *How do I decide*? Not sure what trainer is right for you? Come to
> JackRabbit (Brooklyn location) this Tuesday October 20th from 6:30-8 to test
> out trainers in real life.
>
> *When*? Orders must be placed by October 23rd.
>
> More details and prices, below.
>
>  The gorgeous riding weather we have right now will soon turn to winter,
> when the cold, rain and snow makes it very inconvenient to ride outside.
> But there's no better time of year to improve your cycling.  If you're
> trying to get faster or go longer, there's no substitute for weekly long
> efforts combined with shorter more intense rides.  Even if you're not
> training for a spring race, riding over the winter is the single best way to
> maintain your fitness so you can start strong next year.  An indoor bike
> trainer is a fantastic tool because you have so much control over your
> workouts.  You don't have to worry about snow or freezing rain or just plain
> cold ruining your long sustained ride, and it's really easy to just hop on
> for a 30-45 min hard ride in the morning before work.
>
>  JackRabbit has put together a fantastic deal on indoor bike trainers for
> BTC members.  By placing a big "pre-season" order, we're able to get very
> deep discounts from our vendors that simply aren't available once the
> weather gets colder.  We're passing those discounts on to you.  We've also
> looked hard to make sure we're offering the best product.  Cyclops is still
> the leader in magnetic trainers, but this year we're switching to the Kurt
> Kinetic Road Trainer as our preferred fluid trainer instead of the Cyclops
> Fluid2.  Our experience testing them both at Interbike last week made it
> very clear that Kurt makes a better trainer, and the available upgrades make
> it a trainer that you'll keep for several years.  Practically every reviewer
> who has tested both agrees:
>
>
>
http://www.aboc.com.au/equipment-reviews/bicycle-parts-components-and-accessorie\
s/kurt-kinetic-road-machine-spin-trainer
>
> http://fitwerx.com/product-reviews/fluid-trainers-shootout
>
> http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/Gear/gear.asp?pid=460
>
> http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/reviews/kurt-kinetic.shtml
>
>
>
> In order to take advantage of this offer, you MUST place your order with
> JackRabbit by Sunday night Oct 23rd.  We've set up a special night for BTC
> club members on Tuesday October 20th where you can come by the 7th Ave store
> to check out the demo models and place orders – and get 15% off anything
> else in the store at the same time!  You can also check out the bike
> protector and riser block while you're there.  All orders must be paid in
> advance.  Delivery is expected during the week of November 2nd – right after
> the marathon and just in time for it to really start to get cold.
>
>
>
> *We can only offer these special prices in October, because our vendors have
> put a time limit on bulk discount orders.  Hurry in to take advantage of
> these great deals!!*
> **** *Kurt Kinetic Road Trainer*
>
> ·        Quieter and smoother than CycleOps Fluid2
>
> ·        100% leak-proof (sealed fluid chamber with magnetically coupled
> driveshaft )
>
> ·        More stable, better for standing drills (6.25 lb. flywheel)
>
> ·        Easy to use wheel locking mechanism
>
>    - Lowest operating temperature of any fluid trainer
>    - 2 1/8" roller reduces tire wear
>    - Unconditional lifetime warranty
>    - Valuable upgrades available, including power meter
>
> *MSRP: $369.99
> JackRabbit Regular Price: $349.99
> BTC Special Group Order Price: $289.99*
>
>
>
>
>
> **
>
> *CycleOps Mag Trainer*
>
>    - Great for riders at any level
>    - Lighter, better for travel
>    - Magnetic trainers are less expensive than fluid trainers
>    - Offers a steady level of resistance – you increase effort by changing
>    gears.
>    - Training DVD included
>
> *MSRP: $179.99
> JackRabbit Regular Price: $169.99
> BTC Special Order Group Price: $145.99*
>
> * *
>
> **
>
> *CycleOps Bike Protector (aka the "Bike Thong")*
>
>    - Keeps sweat and sports drinks off your bike**
>    - Handy pockets for TV remote, iPod, or phone**
>    - Machine washable**
>
> *MSRP: $24.99*
>
> *JackRabbit Regular Price: $23.99*
>
> *BTC Special Order Group Price: $19.99*
>
> **
>
> *Leveling/Climbing Block*
>
>    - Without a block for your front wheel, you're riding downhill!
>    - Provides a stable, worry-free ride in any rear-mounted trainer.
>    - Unique 3-level design lets you select the level of difficulty.
>    - Stack two blocks to simulate climbing workouts.
>    - Injection-molded construction is virtually indestructible.
>    - Use 2 blocks for 12 different adjustment levels.
>
> * *
>
> *MSRP: $24.99*
>
> *JackRabbit Regular Price: $23.99*
>
> *BTC Special Order Group Price: $19.99*
>
> * *
>