As we all should participate in Peter Rabbit, there will be no
training run this Sunday 3rd of December, we'll see you all at the
cross.

Geert

I put a new test layout on the site. www.brooklynroadrunners.org

If the guys I copied the layout form have no objections, it might just
work. There is also a new page called runs on our weekly training
schedule.

I rearranged also the calendar and put data on our own runs on the site.

Please give feedback.




Geert

Geert

fyi, if anyone's interested, here's a way to make money while you run.

John

________________________________

From: Sarananika@... [mailto:Sarananika@...]
Sent: Wed 11/29/2006 2:57 PM
To: Shostrom, John - Sports Illustrated <john_shostrom@...>
Subject: Doggie Daycare facility seeking runners who would like to run with dogs


                                                                                                  
November 29, 2007


Dear Brooklyn Runner's Club,


Hello!  I'm contacting you on behalf of Kiki's Pet Hotel in Fort Greene,
Brooklyn.  We would like to offer a service to our clients that would take
dog-walking to another level by offering "dog-running" to some of our clients,
as many breeds need a lot more exercise than they can get with a walk alone.  A
local dog-trainer is calling it "Urban Canine Syndrome."  She comes across many
so-called "hard to train" dogs, and says that the main difficulty is that the
dogs are so pent up from not getting enough exercise that they cannot focus on
getting trained.

We would like to know if runners from your club would be interested?  This would
be a paying position.

Please let us know if you think there might be interest amongst your group!


Thank you,

Alexandra Bassett
Kennel Assistant
Kiki's Pet Hotel
80 Washington Ave.
Brooklyn, NY  11215
(718) 222-5585

Wow, I've yet to meet ADam, but congratulations on the great time!
Best,
Colleen the Brooklyn Newbie
--- In BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com, <john_shostrom@...> wrote:
>
> Great job by Adam in Philly today!
>
>
> 6255  adam  smith  Arcata  CA  28  M  03:01:06
	 03:01:10  overall place 204  gender place 191
>

I just talked to him. He's in bed hurting, but happy
to have qualified for Boston by about 10 minutes.

Kudos to Adam!!



--- john_shostrom@... wrote:

> Great job by Adam in Philly today!
>
>
> 6255  adam  smith  Arcata  CA  28  M  03:01:06
> 03:01:10  overall place 204  gender place 191
>




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6255  adam  smith  Arcata  CA  28  M  03:01:06  03:01:10  overall place 204 
gender place 191

Im definitely going to try this out.  Thank you.  I
hope its not to much of a recurring problem but
realize that it certainly can be one of those things
that surprises me once and awhile. Congrats on making
it to Boston!

--- Colleen Eren <atalanta26pt2@...> wrote:

> Hi, just wanted to give some additional knee advice
> based on my past knee problems, which have ranged
> from ITB to Runner's Knee etc.
> If you go to the gym, most likely they have physical
> Therapy tubes: long styrofoam-looking noodles that
> are very hard. Lie on your hip, put the tube under
> the area that is bothering you, and then "roll" on
> it, pressing all of your bodyweight into the tube.
> This stimulates blood to the area and loosens the
> tightness.
> If you don't have the Tubing, take a tennis ball and
> do the same thing. You can also do this seated, just
> use the ball to massage very hard in circular
> motions.
> Cheers,
>
> Colleen
> PS Anyone doing Rock and Roll Arizona? I signed up
> to have a "fun" marathon before Boston....but thus
> far I'm going alone.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Dave M <kosherdave@...>
> To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:18:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Knee Injury Help!
>
> Yes, NYC this year was my first, and it was great.
>
> If you're injured, I  thinking stepping back a bit
> on the training is probably good.  You can run thru
> discomfort, but you should not run thru pain.  As
> you start to feel better you can increase your
> milage pretty steadily.
>
> For my training, I was around 10 miles, which felt
> long, when I started training for the NYC Ing mara.
> I steadily increased by about a mile or two each
> weekend for my long runs, and did a few shorter
> speadier runs thru the week.  I race a lot, so I was
> racing most every weekend in one road race or
> another, anything from 5K to half mara and several
> duathlons.  I also cross trained quite a bit.   More
> than they usually say to, in fact.  But since I do a
> lot of duathlons, I needed the cycling.  this would
> probably be great for your injury.  Also, on days I
> did not feel like cycling or running, I lifted light
> weights at the gym or did the stair master or
> various gym classes that NYSC offered.  I was at the
> gym a lot and I think it helped cause my upper body
> did not get tired during the marathon, which a lot
> of people have problems with since they only run.
> Your arms can eventually feel like dead weight.  I
> did not have this problem.
>
> Anyway, one piece of advice I can give is that you
> should only increase your long runs by about 10
> percent each week.  So if you're running 10 miles
> now, next time only do 11 and so on.  After 14 you
> can add a mile or two at a time, but you can get
> very easy injuries (like shin splints especially,
> which I was prone to) if you increase too much.
> Best advice I ever got was slow increase of milage
> and do a lot more stretching before and after the
> runs than normal.  Once I followed the stretching
> advice, my injuries vanished almost magically.  It
> was great!
>
> Ray Seabert <ray_seabert@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey Dave! I'm planning on New Orleans if the funds
> are right. It will be my first so I want it to be
> somewhere special. Is the one in March in Cape May?
> Let me ask you. I have run 10 miles twice in the
> last 3 weeks. which was a long run for me. I am now
> starting to train based on a traing schedule I found
> in this Hal Higdon book. It actually starts me off
> with less miles then I am capable of. Should I step
> backwards and follow his schedule or should I keep
> building on the 10 miles I have now. maybe since I
> am
> a little hurt steping back a week would hurt me too
> much in the long run. So was NY your first marathon?
> I want to do that one next year for sure.
>
> --- Dave M <kosherdave@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > Which marathon are you running in Feb? I'm
> starting
> > up my training for one in NJ in march; pretty easy
> > to keep the training going since I just did NYC
> and
> > my milage is pretty solid.
> >
> > Ray Seabert <ray_seabert@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Thats great help, thank you so much:) Did you
> finish
> > the Marathon with the problem? This will be my
> first
> > in February and with training in winter I dont
> want
> > to
> > be foolish. How do I do the strengthening knee
> > excersise?
> >
> > btw...do you all usually jog around the park for
> > meetings.. I want to come to a practice soon nd
> try
> > it
> > out. Ill probably come on Saturday.
> >
> > Thanks for the help!
> > Ray
> >
> > --- Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@ gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I had the same a month ago and two weeks ago
> from
> > > the Queensboro bridge on.
> > >
> > > Ice and stretching. Do a complete stretch of
> feet
> > up
> > > to back, including
> > > knees. Alternatively, Yoga. Stretch & ice at
> least
> > 2
> > > times a day.
> > >
> > > It worked with me. I was able to resume training
> > > after a few (2) days only.
> > > Then it came back halfway the marathon.
> > >
> > > When it is less sore, start doing strengthening
> > > exercises for your knee. I
> > > did not do that part....
> > >
> > > Geert
> > >
> > > On 11/17/06, ray_seabert <ray_seabert@
> yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > My names Ray. Im not an official BRRC member
> > yet,
> > > > but plan to make it out to a practice soon. I
> > was
> > > > hopeing I could get some advice on a Knee
> Injury
> > I
> > > have.
> > > >
> > > > I have been in the process of running pretty
> > hard.
> > > I
> > > > ran 10 miles on Tuesday. My knee has been
> > hurting
> > > > and im not sure how I should take care of it.
> > The
> > > pain
> > > > kinda comes from the side of the knee and I
> can
> > > pin
> > > > point a sore area by pressing around it. Ive
> > kept
> > > > running on it since but last night it slowed
> me
> > > down a
> > > > bit and was kind of sore. I don't want to stop
> > > running
> > > > but I was wondering if that was the best way
> to
> > > treat it.
> > > >
> > > > I have a race through the NYRR Sunday the Race
> > to
> > > > Deliver and would like to say that it wont
> > affect
> > > me
> > > > too much but if there is anything I can do to
> > > treat it
> > > > between now and then I will definitely work
> with
> > > it.
> > > > I am also at the beginning of marathon
> training
> > > and
> > > > don't want to get behind on that as well.
> > > >
> > > > I iced it last night and didnt do any running.
> > it
> > > seems
> > > > slightly better today but I still notice that
> it
> > > is there.
>
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Thank you for all the great advice.  A marathon is one
of those things I dont believe you can get to much
advice on.  This is great.  I like the idea of cycling
as an alternative and building up my upper body seems
very smart.  Right now my cross training is really
Yoga...and those workouts are actually extreamly
intense.  I plan on running a bunch of races and
hopefully at least a couple half marathons before
going.  Im kind of adicited to the idea of getting
there so I know im in for an intense 18 weeks but im
ready for it.

Thanks again!

--- Dave M <kosherdave@...> wrote:

> Yes, NYC this year was my first, and it was great.
>
>   If you're injured, I  thinking stepping back a bit
> on the training is probably good.  You can run thru
> discomfort, but you should not run thru pain.  As
> you start to feel better you can increase your
> milage pretty steadily.
>
>   For my training, I was around 10 miles, which felt
> long, when I started training for the NYC Ing mara.
> I steadily increased by about a mile or two each
> weekend for my long runs, and did a few shorter
> speadier runs thru the week.  I race a lot, so I was
> racing most every weekend in one road race or
> another, anything from 5K to half mara and several
> duathlons.  I also cross trained quite a bit.   More
> than they usually say to, in fact.  But since I do a
> lot of duathlons, I needed the cycling.  this would
> probably be great for your injury.  Also, on days I
> did not feel like cycling or running, I lifted light
> weights at the gym or did the stair master or
> various gym classes that NYSC offered.  I was at the
> gym a lot and I think it helped cause my upper body
> did not get tired during the marathon, which a lot
> of people have problems with since they only run.
> Your arms can eventually feel like dead weight.  I
> did not have this problem.
>
>   Anyway, one piece of advice I can give is that you
> should only increase your long runs by about 10
> percent each week.  So if you're running 10 miles
> now, next time only do 11 and so on.  After 14 you
> can add a mile or two at a time, but you can get
> very easy injuries (like shin splints especially,
> which I was prone to) if you increase too much.
> Best advice I ever got was slow increase of milage
> and do a lot more stretching before and after the
> runs than normal.  Once I followed the stretching
> advice, my injuries vanished almost magically.  It
> was great!
>
> Ray Seabert <ray_seabert@...> wrote:
>           Hey Dave! I'm planning on New Orleans if
> the funds
> are right. It will be my first so I want it to be
> somewhere special. Is the one in March in Cape May?
> Let me ask you. I have run 10 miles twice in the
> last 3 weeks. which was a long run for me. I am now
> starting to train based on a traing schedule I found
> in this Hal Higdon book. It actually starts me off
> with less miles then I am capable of. Should I step
> backwards and follow his schedule or should I keep
> building on the 10 miles I have now. maybe since I
> am
> a little hurt steping back a week would hurt me too
> much in the long run. So was NY your first marathon?
> I want to do that one next year for sure.
>
> --- Dave M <kosherdave@...> wrote:
>
> > Which marathon are you running in Feb? I'm
> starting
> > up my training for one in NJ in march; pretty easy
> > to keep the training going since I just did NYC
> and
> > my milage is pretty solid.
> >
> > Ray Seabert <ray_seabert@...> wrote:
> > Thats great help, thank you so much:) Did you
> finish
> > the Marathon with the problem? This will be my
> first
> > in February and with training in winter I dont
> want
> > to
> > be foolish. How do I do the strengthening knee
> > excersise?
> >
> > btw...do you all usually jog around the park for
> > meetings.. I want to come to a practice soon nd
> try
> > it
> > out. Ill probably come on Saturday.
> >
> > Thanks for the help!
> > Ray
> >
> > --- Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I had the same a month ago and two weeks ago
> from
> > > the Queensboro bridge on.
> > >
> > > Ice and stretching. Do a complete stretch of
> feet
> > up
> > > to back, including
> > > knees. Alternatively, Yoga. Stretch & ice at
> least
> > 2
> > > times a day.
> > >
> > > It worked with me. I was able to resume training
> > > after a few (2) days only.
> > > Then it came back halfway the marathon.
> > >
> > > When it is less sore, start doing strengthening
> > > exercises for your knee. I
> > > did not do that part....
> > >
> > > Geert
> > >
> > > On 11/17/06, ray_seabert <ray_seabert@...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > My names Ray. Im not an official BRRC member
> > yet,
> > > > but plan to make it out to a practice soon. I
> > was
> > > > hopeing I could get some advice on a Knee
> Injury
> > I
> > > have.
> > > >
> > > > I have been in the process of running pretty
> > hard.
> > > I
> > > > ran 10 miles on Tuesday. My knee has been
> > hurting
> > > > and im not sure how I should take care of it.
> > The
> > > pain
> > > > kinda comes from the side of the knee and I
> can
> > > pin
> > > > point a sore area by pressing around it. Ive
> > kept
> > > > running on it since but last night it slowed
> me
> > > down a
> > > > bit and was kind of sore. I don't want to stop
> > > running
> > > > but I was wondering if that was the best way
> to
> > > treat it.
> > > >
> > > > I have a race through the NYRR Sunday the Race
> > to
> > > > Deliver and would like to say that it wont
> > affect
> > > me
> > > > too much but if there is anything I can do to
> > > treat it
> > > > between now and then I will definitely work
> with
> > > it.
> > > > I am also at the beginning of marathon
> training
> > > and
> > > > don't want to get behind on that as well.
> > > >
> > > > I iced it last night and didnt do any running.
> > it
> > > seems
> > > > slightly better today but I still notice that
> it
> > > is there.
> > > > Any help anyone cane give me would be very
> much
> > > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Hope to come to practice soon!
> > > > Best,
> > > > Ray
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Geert Vansintjan
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 2:24 PM
To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Sunday Slow Run at 9:00 am 15th street Prospect Park West

Hi all,

Tomorrow I will be there (unless lightning strikes, whatch this space)
at the usual place and time (9:00 am). Everybody is invited.

I plan to do at least one loop slow, picking up afterwards. A real
long run seems not yet on the books for me.

I would stil like to get some more photo's from our runners at the
marathon or other places, preferably whearing the club colors.
Brightroom links are fine too.

Geert

Hi all,

Tomorrow I will be there (unless lightning strikes, whatch this space)
at the usual place and time (9:00 am). Everybody is invited.

I plan to do at least one loop slow, picking up afterwards. A real
long run seems not yet on the books for me.

I would stil like to get some more photo's from our runners at the
marathon or other places, preferably whearing the club colors.
Brightroom links are fine too.

Geert

Hey Dave! I'm planning on New Orleans if the funds
are right. It will be my first so I want it to be
somewhere special. Is the one in March in Cape May?
Let me ask you. I have run 10 miles twice in the
last 3 weeks. which was a long run for me. I am now
starting to train based on a traing schedule I found
in this Hal Higdon book. It actually starts me off
with less miles then I am capable of. Should I step
backwards and follow his schedule or should I keep
building on the 10 miles I have now. maybe since I am
a little hurt steping back a week would hurt me too
much in the long run. So was NY your first marathon?
I want to do that one next year for sure.

--- Dave M <kosherdave@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Which marathon are you running in Feb? I'm starting
> up my training for one in NJ in march; pretty easy
> to keep the training going since I just did NYC and
> my milage is pretty solid.
>
> Ray Seabert <ray_seabert@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thats great help, thank you so much:) Did you finish
> the Marathon with the problem? This will be my first
> in February and with training in winter I dont want
> to
> be foolish. How do I do the strengthening knee
> excersise?
>
> btw...do you all usually jog around the park for
> meetings.. I want to come to a practice soon nd try
> it
> out. Ill probably come on Saturday.
>
> Thanks for the help!
> Ray
>
> --- Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I had the same a month ago and two weeks ago from
> > the Queensboro bridge on.
> >
> > Ice and stretching. Do a complete stretch of feet
> up
> > to back, including
> > knees. Alternatively, Yoga. Stretch & ice at least
> 2
> > times a day.
> >
> > It worked with me. I was able to resume training
> > after a few (2) days only.
> > Then it came back halfway the marathon.
> >
> > When it is less sore, start doing strengthening
> > exercises for your knee. I
> > did not do that part....
> >
> > Geert
> >
> > On 11/17/06, ray_seabert <ray_seabert@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My names Ray. Im not an official BRRC member
> yet,
> > > but plan to make it out to a practice soon. I
> was
> > > hopeing I could get some advice on a Knee Injury
> I
> > have.
> > >
> > > I have been in the process of running pretty
> hard.
> > I
> > > ran 10 miles on Tuesday. My knee has been
> hurting
> > > and im not sure how I should take care of it.
> The
> > pain
> > > kinda comes from the side of the knee and I can
> > pin
> > > point a sore area by pressing around it. Ive
> kept
> > > running on it since but last night it slowed me
> > down a
> > > bit and was kind of sore. I don't want to stop
> > running
> > > but I was wondering if that was the best way to
> > treat it.
> > >
> > > I have a race through the NYRR Sunday the Race
> to
> > > Deliver and would like to say that it wont
> affect
> > me
> > > too much but if there is anything I can do to
> > treat it
> > > between now and then I will definitely work with
> > it.
> > > I am also at the beginning of marathon training
> > and
> > > don't want to get behind on that as well.
> > >
> > > I iced it last night and didnt do any running.
> it
> > seems
> > > slightly better today but I still notice that it
> > is there.
> > > Any help anyone cane give me would be very much
> > appreciated.
> > >
> > > Hope to come to practice soon!
> > > Best,
> > > Ray
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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Thank you John!  I look forward to joining the runs!

Ray
--- john_shostrom@... wrote:

> Ray:
>
> We go around the park counterclockwise on our group
> runs (so if you come late, run clockwise and you'll
> meet us in a while).
>
> Tomorrow's run starts at 9 am. Hope to see you
> there.
>
> John
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com on behalf
> of Ray Seabert
> Sent: Fri 11/17/2006 5:03 PM
> To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Knee Injury Help!
>
>
>
> Thats great help, thank you so much:) Did you finish
> the Marathon with the problem? This will be my first
> in February and with training in winter I dont want
> to
> be foolish. How do I do the strengthening knee
> excersise?
>
> btw...do you all usually jog around the park for
> meetings.. I want to come to a practice soon nd try
> it
> out. Ill probably come on Saturday.
>
> Thanks for the help!
> Ray
>
> --- Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...
> <mailto:geert.vansintjan%40gmail.com> >
> wrote:
>
> > I had the same a month ago and two weeks ago from
> > the Queensboro bridge on.
> >
> > Ice and stretching. Do a complete stretch of feet
> up
> > to back, including
> > knees. Alternatively, Yoga. Stretch & ice at least
> 2
> > times a day.
> >
> > It worked with me. I was able to resume training
> > after a few (2) days only.
> > Then it came back halfway the marathon.
> >
> > When it is less sore, start doing strengthening
> > exercises for your knee. I
> > did not do that part....
> >
> > Geert
> >
> > On 11/17/06, ray_seabert <ray_seabert@...
> <mailto:ray_seabert%40yahoo.com> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My names Ray. Im not an official BRRC member
> yet,
> > > but plan to make it out to a practice soon. I
> was
> > > hopeing I could get some advice on a Knee Injury
> I
> > have.
> > >
> > > I have been in the process of running pretty
> hard.
> > I
> > > ran 10 miles on Tuesday. My knee has been
> hurting
> > > and im not sure how I should take care of it.
> The
> > pain
> > > kinda comes from the side of the knee and I can
> > pin
> > > point a sore area by pressing around it. Ive
> kept
> > > running on it since but last night it slowed me
> > down a
> > > bit and was kind of sore. I don't want to stop
> > running
> > > but I was wondering if that was the best way to
> > treat it.
> > >
> > > I have a race through the NYRR Sunday the Race
> to
> > > Deliver and would like to say that it wont
> affect
> > me
> > > too much but if there is anything I can do to
> > treat it
> > > between now and then I will definitely work with
> > it.
> > > I am also at the beginning of marathon training
> > and
> > > don't want to get behind on that as well.
> > >
> > > I iced it last night and didnt do any running.
> it
> > seems
> > > slightly better today but I still notice that it
> > is there.
> > > Any help anyone cane give me would be very much
> > appreciated.
> > >
> > > Hope to come to practice soon!
> > > Best,
> > > Ray
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Hey Dave!  I'm planning on New Orleans if the funds
are right.  It will be my first so I want it to be
somewhere special.  Is the one in March in Cape May?
Let  me ask you.  I have run 10 miles twice in the
last 3 weeks.  which was a long run for me.  I am now
starting to train based on a traing schedule I found
in this Hal Higdon book.  It actually starts me off
with less miles then I am capable of.  Should I step
backwards and follow his schedule or should I keep
building on the 10 miles I have now.  maybe since I am
a little hurt steping back a week would hurt me too
much in the long run.   So was NY your first marathon?
  I want to do that one next year for sure.

--- Dave M <kosherdave@...> wrote:

> Which marathon are you running in Feb?  I'm starting
> up my training for one in NJ in march; pretty easy
> to keep the training going since I just did NYC and
> my milage is pretty solid.
>
> Ray Seabert <ray_seabert@...> wrote:
> Thats great help, thank you so much:) Did you finish
> the Marathon with the problem? This will be my first
> in February and with training in winter I dont want
> to
> be foolish. How do I do the strengthening knee
> excersise?
>
> btw...do you all usually jog around the park for
> meetings.. I want to come to a practice soon nd try
> it
> out. Ill probably come on Saturday.
>
> Thanks for the help!
> Ray
>
> --- Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...>
> wrote:
>
> > I had the same a month ago and two weeks ago from
> > the Queensboro bridge on.
> >
> > Ice and stretching. Do a complete stretch of feet
> up
> > to back, including
> > knees. Alternatively, Yoga. Stretch & ice at least
> 2
> > times a day.
> >
> > It worked with me. I was able to resume training
> > after a few (2) days only.
> > Then it came back halfway the marathon.
> >
> > When it is less sore, start doing strengthening
> > exercises for your knee. I
> > did not do that part....
> >
> > Geert
> >
> > On 11/17/06, ray_seabert <ray_seabert@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My names Ray. Im not an official BRRC member
> yet,
> > > but plan to make it out to a practice soon. I
> was
> > > hopeing I could get some advice on a Knee Injury
> I
> > have.
> > >
> > > I have been in the process of running pretty
> hard.
> > I
> > > ran 10 miles on Tuesday. My knee has been
> hurting
> > > and im not sure how I should take care of it.
> The
> > pain
> > > kinda comes from the side of the knee and I can
> > pin
> > > point a sore area by pressing around it. Ive
> kept
> > > running on it since but last night it slowed me
> > down a
> > > bit and was kind of sore. I don't want to stop
> > running
> > > but I was wondering if that was the best way to
> > treat it.
> > >
> > > I have a race through the NYRR Sunday the Race
> to
> > > Deliver and would like to say that it wont
> affect
> > me
> > > too much but if there is anything I can do to
> > treat it
> > > between now and then I will definitely work with
> > it.
> > > I am also at the beginning of marathon training
> > and
> > > don't want to get behind on that as well.
> > >
> > > I iced it last night and didnt do any running.
> it
> > seems
> > > slightly better today but I still notice that it
> > is there.
> > > Any help anyone cane give me would be very much
> > appreciated.
> > >
> > > Hope to come to practice soon!
> > > Best,
> > > Ray
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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Ray:

We go around the park counterclockwise on our group runs (so if you come late,
run clockwise and you'll meet us in a while).

Tomorrow's run starts at 9 am. Hope to see you there.

John

________________________________

From: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Ray Seabert
Sent: Fri 11/17/2006 5:03 PM
To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Knee Injury Help!



Thats great help, thank you so much:) Did you finish
the Marathon with the problem? This will be my first
in February and with training in winter I dont want to
be foolish. How do I do the strengthening knee
excersise?

btw...do you all usually jog around the park for
meetings.. I want to come to a practice soon nd try it
out. Ill probably come on Saturday.

Thanks for the help!
Ray

--- Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...
<mailto:geert.vansintjan%40gmail.com> >
wrote:

> I had the same a month ago and two weeks ago from
> the Queensboro bridge on.
>
> Ice and stretching. Do a complete stretch of feet up
> to back, including
> knees. Alternatively, Yoga. Stretch & ice at least 2
> times a day.
>
> It worked with me. I was able to resume training
> after a few (2) days only.
> Then it came back halfway the marathon.
>
> When it is less sore, start doing strengthening
> exercises for your knee. I
> did not do that part....
>
> Geert
>
> On 11/17/06, ray_seabert <ray_seabert@...
<mailto:ray_seabert%40yahoo.com> >
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > My names Ray. Im not an official BRRC member yet,
> > but plan to make it out to a practice soon. I was
> > hopeing I could get some advice on a Knee Injury I
> have.
> >
> > I have been in the process of running pretty hard.
> I
> > ran 10 miles on Tuesday. My knee has been hurting
> > and im not sure how I should take care of it. The
> pain
> > kinda comes from the side of the knee and I can
> pin
> > point a sore area by pressing around it. Ive kept
> > running on it since but last night it slowed me
> down a
> > bit and was kind of sore. I don't want to stop
> running
> > but I was wondering if that was the best way to
> treat it.
> >
> > I have a race through the NYRR Sunday the Race to
> > Deliver and would like to say that it wont affect
> me
> > too much but if there is anything I can do to
> treat it
> > between now and then I will definitely work with
> it.
> > I am also at the beginning of marathon training
> and
> > don't want to get behind on that as well.
> >
> > I iced it last night and didnt do any running. it
> seems
> > slightly better today but I still notice that it
> is there.
> > Any help anyone cane give me would be very much
> appreciated.
> >
> > Hope to come to practice soon!
> > Best,
> > Ray
> >
> >
> >
>

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Thats great help, thank you so much:) Did you finish
the Marathon with the problem? This will be my first
in February and with training in winter I dont want to
be foolish. How do I do the strengthening knee
excersise?

btw...do you all usually jog around the park for
meetings.. I want to come to a practice soon nd try it
out. Ill probably come on Saturday.

Thanks for the help!
Ray

--- Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I had the same a month ago and two weeks ago from
> the Queensboro bridge on.
>
> Ice and stretching. Do a complete stretch of feet up
> to back, including
> knees. Alternatively, Yoga. Stretch & ice at least 2
> times a day.
>
> It worked with me. I was able to resume training
> after a few (2) days only.
> Then it came back halfway the marathon.
>
> When it is less sore, start doing strengthening
> exercises for your knee. I
> did not do that part....
>
> Geert
>
> On 11/17/06, ray_seabert <ray_seabert@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > My names Ray. Im not an official BRRC member yet,
> > but plan to make it out to a practice soon. I was
> > hopeing I could get some advice on a Knee Injury I
> have.
> >
> > I have been in the process of running pretty hard.
> I
> > ran 10 miles on Tuesday. My knee has been hurting
> > and im not sure how I should take care of it. The
> pain
> > kinda comes from the side of the knee and I can
> pin
> > point a sore area by pressing around it. Ive kept
> > running on it since but last night it slowed me
> down a
> > bit and was kind of sore. I don't want to stop
> running
> > but I was wondering if that was the best way to
> treat it.
> >
> > I have a race through the NYRR Sunday the Race to
> > Deliver and would like to say that it wont affect
> me
> > too much but if there is anything I can do to
> treat it
> > between now and then I will definitely work with
> it.
> > I am also at the beginning of marathon training
> and
> > don't want to get behind on that as well.
> >
> > I iced it last night and didnt do any running. it
> seems
> > slightly better today but I still notice that it
> is there.
> > Any help anyone cane give me would be very much
> appreciated.
> >
> > Hope to come to practice soon!
> > Best,
> > Ray
> >
> >
> >
>

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Thats great help, thank you so much:)  Did you finish
the Marathon with the problem?  This will be my first
in February and with training in winter I dont want to
be foolish.  How do I do the strengthening knee
excersise?

btw...do you all usually jog around the park for
meetings.. I want to come to a practice soon nd try it
out.  Ill probably come on Saturday.

Thanks for the help!
Ray

--- Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...>
wrote:

> I had the same a month ago and two weeks ago from
> the Queensboro bridge on.
>
> Ice and stretching. Do a complete stretch of feet up
> to back, including
> knees. Alternatively, Yoga. Stretch & ice at least 2
> times a day.
>
> It worked with me. I was able to resume training
> after a few (2) days only.
> Then it came back halfway the marathon.
>
> When it is less sore, start doing strengthening
> exercises for your knee. I
> did not do that part....
>
> Geert
>
> On 11/17/06, ray_seabert <ray_seabert@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >   Hi,
> >
> > My names Ray. Im not an official BRRC member yet,
> > but plan to make it out to a practice soon. I was
> > hopeing I could get some advice on a Knee Injury I
> have.
> >
> > I have been in the process of running pretty hard.
> I
> > ran 10 miles on Tuesday. My knee has been hurting
> > and im not sure how I should take care of it. The
> pain
> > kinda comes from the side of the knee and I can
> pin
> > point a sore area by pressing around it. Ive kept
> > running on it since but last night it slowed me
> down a
> > bit and was kind of sore. I don't want to stop
> running
> > but I was wondering if that was the best way to
> treat it.
> >
> > I have a race through the NYRR Sunday the Race to
> > Deliver and would like to say that it wont affect
> me
> > too much but if there is anything I can do to
> treat it
> > between now and then I will definitely work with
> it.
> > I am also at the beginning of marathon training
> and
> > don't want to get behind on that as well.
> >
> > I iced it last night and didnt do any running. it
> seems
> > slightly better today but I still notice that it
> is there.
> > Any help anyone cane give me would be very much
> appreciated.
> >
> > Hope to come to practice soon!
> > Best,
> > Ray
> >
> >
> >
>




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Hi,

My names Ray.  Im not an official BRRC member yet,
but plan to make it out to a practice soon.  I was
hopeing I could get some advice on a Knee Injury I have.

I have been in the process of running pretty hard.  I
ran 10 miles on Tuesday.  My knee has been hurting
and im not sure how I should take care of it.  The pain
kinda comes from the side of the knee and I can pin
point a sore area by pressing around it.  Ive kept
running on it since but last night it slowed me down a
bit and was kind of sore.  I don't want to stop running
but I was wondering if that was the best way to treat it.

I have a race through the NYRR Sunday the Race to
Deliver and would like to say that it wont affect me
too much but if there is anything I can do to treat it
between now and then I will definitely work with it.
I am also at the beginning of marathon training and
don't want to get behind on that as well.

I iced it last night and didnt do any running.  it seems
slightly better today but I still notice that it is there.
Any help anyone cane give me would be very much appreciated.

Hope to come to practice soon!
Best,
Ray

I am new to the area, looking forward to joining fellow runners, so
just want to make sure the group is meeting on Thurs?

Stephanie:

The F train stop at Prospect Park-15th St. is the best. It's about 10 feet from
our Saturday-Sunday (9 am) meeting spot, and a 2-minute jog from 9th St., our
Tues-Thurs (6:45 pm) meeting spot.

For the 10K in December, when you pick up your bib, please ask them to add you
as "BRRC" in the team category of the entry.

Hope to see you soon -- it's a lot of fun to run with other people.

John Shostrom

________________________________

From: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com on behalf of sjs7212003
Sent: Tue 11/14/2006 3:44 PM
To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Location



Hi-

I have recently joined the list. Can anyone tell me what the closest
subway stop is to the meeting location for the weekday runs? I am still
fairly new to Brooklyn and, well, by nature fuzzy on
location/directions in general. I thought I might try the group runs...I
have always run by myself but thought it would be fun to join a group.
I have always just run for fun, but have actually entered my first race
(eek!)- the NYRR 10K in December.

Thanks,
Stephanie

Hi-

I have recently joined the list. Can anyone tell me what the closest
subway stop is to the meeting location for the weekday runs? I am still
fairly new to Brooklyn and, well, by nature fuzzy on
location/directions in general. I thought I might try the group runs…I
have always run by myself but thought it would be fun to join a group.
I have always just run for fun, but have actually entered my first race
(eek!)– the NYRR 10K in December.

Thanks,
Stephanie

Anybody want to meet at 6:15 to run a loop and then meet the group at 6:45?  I'd
like to go at 7.5-8min pace.

Hi-

I have recently joined the list. Can anyone tell me what the closest
subway stop is to the meeting location for the weekday runs? I am still
fairly new to Brooklyn and, well, by nature fuzzy on
location/directions in general. I thought I might try the group runs…I
have always run by myself but thought it would be fun to join a group.
I have always just run for fun, but have actually entered my first race
(eek!)– the NYRR 10K in December.

Thanks,
Stephanie

• Marathonstories
  
• I just put Dave and Fatima's Marathon story on our blog at http://brooklynroadrunners.org/dokuwiki/dokuwiki/doku.php/marathon/marathonexperiences .
• It seems "your duty to the team"  to write your story too, it can be added to the page without problems. If you simply login, you should be able to add photo's too (not more than 100 Kb per photo). Otherwise, send them, with photo's to the group, they will get posted.
  
• I expect to find there at least 28 stories, please find also your own title.
  
• Perhaps I could accept a joint story for Brent and John, although they were separated for some miles.
  
• You can start to blog your marathon training schedule 2007 now at the same place.