BrooklynRoadRunners : Messages : 1487-1516 of 1714

Hey guys. Commonwealth on 5th Avenue and 12th street has treated me well over the years and its spacious patio area can comfortably house a large contingent of runners. Our fellow patrons will thank us for not choking the air with our post-run aroma.

I'm not sure how many of the 8 x 1 mile repeats I'm going to do but I'd wager that showing up to the bar around 7:45-8pm would be a safe bet.

Runners: anyone down to sport the BRRC green jerseys? I'll have mine on. Hope to see you there.

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 7:47 PM, John Shostrom <jshostrom@...> wrote:

Carl is leaving for Switzerland soon, but he's doing one final group run tomorrow night at 6:45. He'll be available for cocktails after the run at a place to be determined.

Some of us are doing mile repeats tomorrow night, starting down the hill from our gathering spot & doing round trips around the south end of the park (the flattest section we can find). I'll be doing 8 x 1 mile with 30 seconds rest, but you don't have to do the whole workout to join in.

Let's have a good turnout for Carl!

John

--
Carl x

#1515

From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@...>
Date: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:54 pm
Subject: Re: Tues workout & farewell to Carl

jshostrom

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I don't know -- I don't have anything to do with planning the meetings. Call
Steve Bonal at 917-238-9447. He is in charge of them.

John


--- On Mon, 8/25/08, alindsayhoward@... <alindsayhoward@...> wrote:

> From: alindsayhoward@... <alindsayhoward@...>
> Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Tues workout & farewell to Carl
> To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 11:51 PM
> Hey John-
>
> Stopped by the Wednesday meeting last month and no one was
> there. Is there a meeting on the 3rd?
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@...>
>
> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:47:22
> To: <brooklynroadrunners@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Tues workout & farewell
> to Carl
>
>
> Carl is leaving for Switzerland soon, but he's doing
> one final group run tomorrow night at 6:45. He'll be
> available for cocktails after the run at a place to be
> determined.
>
> Some of us are doing mile repeats tomorrow night, starting
> down the hill from our gathering spot & doing round
> trips around the south end of the park (the flattest section
> we can find). I'll be doing 8 x 1 mile with 30 seconds
> rest, but you don't have to do the whole workout to join
> in.
>
> Let's have a good turnout for Carl!
>
> John

#1514

From: alindsayhoward@...
Date: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:51 pm
Subject: Re: Tues workout & farewell to Carl

alindsayhoward

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Hey John-

Stopped by the Wednesday meeting last month and no one was there. Is there a meeting on the 3rd?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:47:22 -0700 (PDT)
To: <brooklynroadrunners@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Tues workout farewell to Carl

Carl is leaving for Switzerland soon, but he's doing one final group run tomorrow night at 6:45. He'll be available for cocktails after the run at a place to be determined.

Some of us are doing mile repeats tomorrow night, starting down the hill from our gathering spot & doing round trips around the south end of the park (the flattest section we can find). I'll be doing 8 x 1 mile with 30 seconds rest, but you don't have to do the whole workout to join in.

Let's have a good turnout for Carl!

John

#1513

From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@...>
Date: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:47 pm
Subject: Tues workout & farewell to Carl

jshostrom

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Carl is leaving for Switzerland soon, but he's doing one final group run
tomorrow night at 6:45. He'll be available for cocktails after the run at a
place to be determined.

Some of us are doing mile repeats tomorrow night, starting down the hill from
our gathering spot & doing round trips around the south end of the park (the
flattest section we can find). I'll be doing 8 x 1 mile with 30 seconds rest,
but you don't have to do the whole workout to join in.

Let's have a good turnout for Carl!

John

#1512

From: dogfish8@...
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:06 pm
Subject: Re: Marathon Pace workout tomorrow?

thesameage

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I'm hoping to do a solid 10 tomorrow with/after the group run, but I'm more of
an 8:30ish pace if anyone wants to join.

On Friday, August 22, 2008, at 10:19AM, "John Shostrom" <jshostrom@...>
wrote:
>I want to do a 12-mile marathon pace (6:45 for me) workout tomorrow, starting
probably at the bottom of the hill after the start of the group run at 9 am. I'd
love to have company for all or any�part of it.
>John
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#1511

From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@...>
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:19 pm
Subject: Marathon Pace workout tomorrow?

jshostrom

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I want to do a 12-mile marathon pace (6:45 for me) workout tomorrow, starting probably at the bottom of the hill after the start of the group run at 9 am. I'd love to have company for all or any part of it.

John

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#1510

From: "Geert Vansintjan" <geert.vansintjan@...>
Date: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: Bike accident statistics.

geert.vansin...

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Scary, I understand that the only people who actually die in traffic are bicyclists.

I can drive a lot on dedicated bike paths or quiet streets:

Quiet

Carlton avenue (roadworks for the moment)
Navy shipyard
Sands street (dangerous spot)

Dedicated

Manhattan bridge
East river greenway

However, there are some spots that frighten me:

mid town, there is no green way from 30th street to 42nd; 2nd avenue is ghastly.
Chinatown from the East river to Manhattan bridge.

Moreover, when time is limited, I try to cut corners and take a shortcut. This becomes quickly a habit instead of an exception:

Speeding along 21st or 2nd avenue from mid town to Manhattan bridge
going straight up to dean street instead of taking the detour along the navy shipyard
even Flatbushing....

I don't want to become a white bike on a street light, this is why I did not bike in winter...

Geert

2008/8/20 Colleen Eren <atalanta26pt2@...>

I hate to be the voice of caution here, but I think that making a bike commute home the way to cross train is rather risky. In order to get a good cardio session in, you'd have to be riding with a relatively high RPM. Check out the statistics from the DOT relating to bike-related injuries...

http://www.nysdmv.com/Statistics/2006_NYS_Bicycle%20Summary.pdf

Most of the accidents occur, not surprisingly, during rush hour, and during slippery conditions. Last time I checked, there were no fatalities in spin classes:)

Colleen Eren
Organizing Director
New Yorkers Against the Death Penalty

www.nyadp.org
cell: 5168492363
"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind"~J.Donne

--- On Wed, 8/20/08, Sara Niccoli <cordecredens@...> wrote:

From: Sara Niccoli <cordecredens@...>
Subject: RE: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.
To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 12:00 PM

As long as you've got your lights and maybe some reflective stuff, you're quite visible to car traffic and I found that cars are even more visible to me (glaring lights). The problem is that the road is not so visible, so you're more likely to hit potholes, etc. Just make sure you know your route.

From: BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com [mailto:BrooklynRoa dRunners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Geert Vansintjan
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:40 AM
To: BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunner s] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.

I am especially concerned with safety: during the night, even with lights, I feel a lot less confident to ride with all the cars around...

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Carl <carlube@gmail. com> wrote:

Geert, I commuted by bike all of last winter and I would definitely agree with the face mask, or balclava, suggestion. The second most important piece of equipment I used were 'wind stopper' gloves that look like a lobster's claw. Picture the Star Trek hand sign and that gives you an idea of the shape of the glove. Having two fingers in one glove finger goes a long way in keeping them warm. On the colder days I would agree with Sara and double up with a bar of thin running gloves.

Lastly, when there's ice on the roads, just remember that it's not worth it to ride. The bridges are especially treacherous.

-Carl

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Sara Niccoli <cordecredens@ earthlink. net> wrote:

Hey Geert (and everyone!)- So sorry to hear about your injury. Yes! You can bike commute all winter. Get something to cover your face (not very high tech but I use a handknit scarf wrapped round my face, it's warm and doesn't get moist from breath), wear superwarm gloves (try doubling up a pair of running gloves and a heavier pair), and make sure to have lots of blinking lights. And...stay in the habit, if you take a "break" you won't want to start up again til spring. This year, I'm trying snowshoe running. (Must be easier on the bad hip than pavement!?) Best. -Sara

-----Original Message-----
>From: Colleen Eren <atalanta26pt2@ yahoo.com>
>Sent: Aug 19, 2008 10:05 PM
>To: BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com
>Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunner s] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.
>
>Hi, Geert:
>I'm sorry to hear that you are plagued with injury. Hey, we can all sympathize, I've been out with several problems. I joined the Brooklyn tri Club, and they Bike throughout the year, even in Winter, so you can perhaps cross train with them. $30 for the club fee. They're pretty good, several rides a week. Look them up!
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>Colleen Eren
>Organizing Director
>New Yorkers Against the Death Penalty
>www.nyadp.org
>cell: 5168492363
>"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind"~J.Donne
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>--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@ gmail.com> wrote:
>
>From: Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@ gmail.com>
>Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunner s] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.
>To: "brooklynroadrunners" <BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com>
>Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 9:42 PM
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>As an alternative to running, while injured I am bikommuting to Manhattan.
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>This summer the number of cyclists has really gone up: in May, it were still mostly isolated old ten speed bicycles. Then there was the invasion of the track bikes. Now a staunch majority of the crowd drives brand new vehicles. There was actually a traffic jam on Manhattan bridge this week.
>
>My main concern is wintertime. Do I have to stop my bikommute when daylight losing time is introduced in fall? Or is the security situation sufficiently improved to continue thriugh witner?
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>What are the options?
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>Any ideas?
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>Geert
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Carl x

#1509

From: "Matthew Kershaw" <icebrrrg@...>
Date: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: Bike accident statistics.

bardo_icebrrrg

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It is absolutely possible to ride anywhere in NYC at rush hour without getting injured. Even when it is "dark out". You have to be hyper-aware of your surroundings, assume you are invisible, have reflective gear on and lights on the bike, etc, but that's just common sense.

Do not let statistics scare you away from commuting on a bicycle.

-m-

#1508

From: Colleen Eren <atalanta26pt2@...>
Date: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:25 pm
Subject: Bike accident statistics.

atalanta26pt2

Offline

I hate to be the voice of caution here, but I think that making a bike commute home the way to cross train is rather risky. In order to get a good cardio session in, you'd have to be riding with a relatively high RPM. Check out the statistics from the DOT relating to bike-related injuries...

http://www.nysdmv.com/Statistics/2006_NYS_Bicycle%20Summary.pdf

Most of the accidents occur, not surprisingly, during rush hour, and during slippery conditions. Last time I checked, there were no fatalities in spin classes:)

Colleen Eren
Organizing Director
New Yorkers Against the Death Penalty
www.nyadp.org
cell: 5168492363
"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind"~J.Donne

--- On Wed, 8/20/08, Sara Niccoli <cordecredens@...> wrote:

From: Sara Niccoli <cordecredens@...>
Subject: RE: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.
To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 12:00 PM

As long as you�ve got your lights and maybe some reflective stuff, you�re quite visible to car traffic and I found that cars are even more visible to me (glaring lights). The problem is that the road is not so visible, so you�re more likely to hit potholes, etc. Just make sure you know your route.

From: BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com [mailto:BrooklynRoa dRunners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Geert Vansintjan
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:40 AM
To: BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunner s] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.

I am especially concerned with safety: during the night, even with lights, I feel a lot less confident to ride with all the cars around...

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Carl <carlube@gmail. com> wrote:

Geert, I commuted by bike all of last winter and I would definitely agree with the face mask, or balclava, suggestion. The second most important piece of equipment I used were 'wind stopper' gloves that look like a lobster's claw. Picture the Star Trek hand sign and that gives you an idea of the shape of the glove. Having two fingers in one glove finger goes a long way in keeping them warm. On the colder days I would agree with Sara and double up with a bar of thin running gloves.

Lastly, when there's ice on the roads, just remember that it's not worth it to ride. The bridges are especially treacherous.

-Carl

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Sara Niccoli <cordecredens@ earthlink. net> wrote:

Hey Geert (and everyone!)- So sorry to hear about your injury. Yes! You can bike commute all winter. Get something to cover your face (not very high tech but I use a handknit scarf wrapped round my face, it's warm and doesn't get moist from breath), wear superwarm gloves (try doubling up a pair of running gloves and a heavier pair), and make sure to have lots of blinking lights. And...stay in the habit, if you take a "break" you won't want to start up again til spring. This year, I'm trying snowshoe running. (Must be easier on the bad hip than pavement!?) Best. -Sara

-----Original Message-----
>From: Colleen Eren <atalanta26pt2@ yahoo.com>
>Sent: Aug 19, 2008 10:05 PM
>To: BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com
>Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunner s] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.
>
>Hi, Geert:
>I'm sorry to hear that you are plagued with injury. Hey, we can all sympathize, I've been out with several problems. I joined the Brooklyn tri Club, and they Bike throughout the year, even in Winter, so you can perhaps cross train with them. $30 for the club fee. They're pretty good, several rides a week. Look them up!
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>Colleen Eren
>Organizing Director
>New Yorkers Against the Death Penalty
>www.nyadp.org
>cell: 5168492363
>"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind"~J.Donne
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>--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@ gmail.com> wrote:
>
>From: Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@ gmail.com>
>Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunner s] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.
>To: "brooklynroadrunners" <BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com>
>Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 9:42 PM
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>As an alternative to running, while injured I am bikommuting to Manhattan.
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>This summer the number of cyclists has really gone up: in May, it were still mostly isolated old ten speed bicycles. Then there was the invasion of the track bikes. Now a staunch majority of the crowd drives brand new vehicles. There was actually a traffic jam on Manhattan bridge this week.
>
>My main concern is wintertime. Do I have to stop my bikommute when daylight losing time is introduced in fall? Or is the security situation sufficiently improved to continue thriugh witner?
>
>What are the options?
>
>Any ideas?
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>Geert
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Carl x

#1507

From: "Sara Niccoli" <cordecredens@...>
Date: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:00 pm
Subject: RE: Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.

theoneandonl...

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As long as you’ve got your lights and maybe some reflective stuff, you’re quite visible to car traffic and I found that cars are even more visible to me (glaring lights). The problem is that the road is not so visible, so you’re more likely to hit potholes, etc. Just make sure you know your route.

From: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Geert Vansintjan
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:40 AM
To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.

I am especially concerned with safety: during the night, even with lights, I feel a lot less confident to ride with all the cars around...

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Carl <carlube@...> wrote:

Geert, I commuted by bike all of last winter and I would definitely agree with the face mask, or balclava, suggestion. The second most important piece of equipment I used were 'wind stopper' gloves that look like a lobster's claw. Picture the Star Trek hand sign and that gives you an idea of the shape of the glove. Having two fingers in one glove finger goes a long way in keeping them warm. On the colder days I would agree with Sara and double up with a bar of thin running gloves.

Lastly, when there's ice on the roads, just remember that it's not worth it to ride. The bridges are especially treacherous.

-Carl

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Sara Niccoli <cordecredens@...> wrote:

Hey Geert (and everyone!)- So sorry to hear about your injury. Yes! You can bike commute all winter. Get something to cover your face (not very high tech but I use a handknit scarf wrapped round my face, it's warm and doesn't get moist from breath), wear superwarm gloves (try doubling up a pair of running gloves and a heavier pair), and make sure to have lots of blinking lights. And...stay in the habit, if you take a "break" you won't want to start up again til spring. This year, I'm trying snowshoe running. (Must be easier on the bad hip than pavement!?) Best. -Sara

-----Original Message-----
>From: Colleen Eren <atalanta26pt2@...>
>Sent: Aug 19, 2008 10:05 PM
>To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.
>
>Hi, Geert:
>I'm sorry to hear that you are plagued with injury. Hey, we can all sympathize, I've been out with several problems. I joined the Brooklyn tri Club, and they Bike throughout the year, even in Winter, so you can perhaps cross train with them. $30 for the club fee. They're pretty good, several rides a week. Look them up!
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>Colleen Eren
>Organizing Director
>New Yorkers Against the Death Penalty
>www.nyadp.org
>cell: 5168492363
>"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind"~J.Donne
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>--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...> wrote:
>
>From: Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...>
>Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.
>To: "brooklynroadrunners" <BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com>
>Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 9:42 PM
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>As an alternative to running, while injured I am bikommuting to Manhattan.
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>This summer the number of cyclists has really gone up: in May, it were still mostly isolated old ten speed bicycles. Then there was the invasion of the track bikes. Now a staunch majority of the crowd drives brand new vehicles. There was actually a traffic jam on Manhattan bridge this week.
>
>My main concern is wintertime. Do I have to stop my bikommute when daylight losing time is introduced in fall? Or is the security situation sufficiently improved to continue thriugh witner?
>
>What are the options?
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Geert
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Carl x

#1506

From: "Geert Vansintjan" <geert.vansintjan@...>
Date: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.

geert.vansin...

Offline

I am especially concerned with safety: during the night, even with lights, I feel a lot less confident to ride with all the cars around...

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Carl <carlube@...> wrote:

Geert, I commuted by bike all of last winter and I would definitely agree with the face mask, or balclava, suggestion. The second most important piece of equipment I used were 'wind stopper' gloves that look like a lobster's claw. Picture the Star Trek hand sign and that gives you an idea of the shape of the glove. Having two fingers in one glove finger goes a long way in keeping them warm. On the colder days I would agree with Sara and double up with a bar of thin running gloves.

Lastly, when there's ice on the roads, just remember that it's not worth it to ride. The bridges are especially treacherous.

-Carl

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Sara Niccoli <cordecredens@...> wrote:

Hey Geert (and everyone!)- So sorry to hear about your injury. Yes! You can bike commute all winter. Get something to cover your face (not very high tech but I use a handknit scarf wrapped round my face, it's warm and doesn't get moist from breath), wear superwarm gloves (try doubling up a pair of running gloves and a heavier pair), and make sure to have lots of blinking lights. And...stay in the habit, if you take a "break" you won't want to start up again til spring. This year, I'm trying snowshoe running. (Must be easier on the bad hip than pavement!?) Best. -Sara

-----Original Message-----
>From: Colleen Eren <atalanta26pt2@...>
>Sent: Aug 19, 2008 10:05 PM
>To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.
>
>Hi, Geert:
>I'm sorry to hear that you are plagued with injury. Hey, we can all sympathize, I've been out with several problems. I joined the Brooklyn tri Club, and they Bike throughout the year, even in Winter, so you can perhaps cross train with them. $30 for the club fee. They're pretty good, several rides a week. Look them up!
>
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>Colleen Eren
>Organizing Director
>New Yorkers Against the Death Penalty
>www.nyadp.org
>cell: 5168492363
>"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind"~J.Donne
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>--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...> wrote:
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>From: Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...>
>Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.
>To: "brooklynroadrunners" <BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com>
>Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 9:42 PM
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>As an alternative to running, while injured I am bikommuting to Manhattan.
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>This summer the number of cyclists has really gone up: in May, it were still mostly isolated old ten speed bicycles. Then there was the invasion of the track bikes. Now a staunch majority of the crowd drives brand new vehicles. There was actually a traffic jam on Manhattan bridge this week.
>
>My main concern is wintertime. Do I have to stop my bikommute when daylight losing time is introduced in fall? Or is the security situation sufficiently improved to continue thriugh witner?
>
>What are the options?
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Geert
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Carl x

#1505

From: "Rich Carmona" <rich.carmona@...>
Date: Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)

richcarmona

Offline

Hi all,
I'll need a ride up too and does anyone have an extra jersey i can borrow for the race? Preferably men's medium or large. See you all at 6:15

Thanks,
Rich

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Mike Cassaday <cassaday@...> wrote:

Hello all. I will be there, with car at 6:15. See you then.

Cheers,
Mike

On Aug 13, 2008, at 8:13 PM, John Shostrom <jshostrom@...> wrote:

We have 3 drivers for the men's race -- Noah, Elias and Mike. The cars should leave no later than 6:30. Elias will probably arrive at about 6:15, and we can fill the cars as people arrive, and leave car by car (i.e., no need to wait to all go together).

The race starts at 102nd Street on the East Side.

Only two women that I know of are running, and neither needs a ride.

Good luck to everyone on Saturday!

John

----- Original Message ----
From: Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...>
To: brooklynroadrunners <BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:01:13 PM
Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)

Just a reminder for the team race next week-end:

All able bodied men and women in Brooklyn are expected to participate in this race as a BRRC runner. .

Participating is more important than winning, although we would not mind to win.

Geert

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John Shostrom <john_shostrom@ simail.com>
Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Subject: Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
T

Some of you have read and/or responded to my Yahoo posting, so my apologies ahead of time for the multiple messages. I'll be out of town and mostly out of touch for much of the next two weeks, starting on Wednesday.

It's all hands on deck for this race, especially for the men � we need 10 men for a legal team, the usual 5 for the women. The race costs only $5 and is very exciting � if you've never run the Team Championships, you're in for a treat.

So far BRRC has the following men lined up: Scott M, Dave M, Mike C, Carl, Geert, Noah, Rich C, Steve B, John S.

Jen� Shaw is the only woman I've sure is running; maybe Jan knows of others.

Mike C said he can drive and take 4 others: Scott M, Dave M, Carl and I have asked for rides. I don't know yet of other drivers.

I'll be back on Aug. 9. In the meantime we can share info on runners/cars/ riders by hitting Reply All (or going to my original Yahoo message � I don't know who's on the listserve and who's not).

Hope to see many of you on the 16th..

John

#1504

From: "Rich Carmona" <rich.carmona@...>
Date: Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:44 pm
Subject: Re: Car Situation for Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)

richcarmona

Offline

I won't need a ride tomorrow but i'm wondering if anyone can bring a spare jersey for the race. medium or large perhaps?

Thanks,
Rich

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 2:18 PM, John Shostrom <jshostrom@...> wrote:

Current drivers: Elias, Mike C, Steve B

Current riders, per my list:

Scott McCraw
Dave M
Carl
Geert
John S
Spencer
Mike Barry
Steve Remy (I think)

Anybody else need a ride? Anybody on this list not needing a ride? Please respond so we'll know who to wait for tomorrow.

Thanks.

John

--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Dave M <kosherdave@...> wrote:

> From: Dave M <kosherdave@...>

> Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Car Situation for Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
> To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 5:19 PM

> I will not need a ride back, just a ride in, so that frees
> up some space on the return at least.
>
> ~Dave M
>
> --- On Fri, 8/15/08, John Shostrom
> <jshostrom@...> wrote:
>
> From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@...>
> Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Car Situation for Team
> Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
> To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 1:08 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve can drive, so there is now plenty of room. Steve may
> have to go back to Brooklyn early, so it's possible that
> some riders may have to take the subway back.
>
> John
>
> --- On Fri, 8/15/08, John Shostrom <jshostrom@yahoo.
> com> wrote:
>
> > From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@yahoo. com>
> > Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunner s] Car Situation for Team
> Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
> > To: BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 3:20 PM
> > Noah can't make it tomorrow because of a fmaily
> > situation, so it's looking tight for seats in the
> 2
> > remaining cars. My list shows 8 extra riders for the 2
> cars,
> > which is exactly the limit.
> >
> > Can anyone else drive? I have a call in to Steve
> Bonal, but
> > he often can just barely get away for the race because
> he
> > works.
> >
> > Alternatively, if anyone who has asked for a ride can
> just
> > as easily take the subway, that would alleviate
> crowding.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Geert Vansintjan
> > <geert.vansintjan@ gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Geert Vansintjan
> > <geert.vansintjan@ gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunner s] Team
> Championships,
> > Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
> > > To: "brooklynroadrunner s"
> > <BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com>
> > > Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 5:01 PM
> > > Just a reminder for the team race next week-end:
> > >
> > > All able bodied men and women in Brooklyn are
> expected
> > to
> > > participate in
> > > this race as a BRRC runner. .
> > >
> > > Participating is more important than winning,
> although
> > we
> > > would not mind to
> > > win.
> > >
> > > Geert
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: John Shostrom <john_shostrom@
> simail.com>
> > > Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM
> > > Subject: Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men),
> 9 am
> > > (women)
> > > T
> > >
> > > Some of you have read and/or responded to my
> Yahoo
> > > posting, so my apologies
> > > ahead of time for the multiple messages. I'll
> be
> > out of
> > > town and mostly out
> > > of touch for much of the next two weeks, starting
> on
> > > Wednesday.
> > >
> > > It's all hands on deck for this race,
> especially
> > for
> > > the men � we need 10
> > > men for a legal team, the usual 5 for the women.
> The
> > race
> > > costs only $5 and
> > > is very exciting � if you've never run the
> Team
> > > Championships, you're in for
> > > a treat.
> > >
> > > So far BRRC has the following men lined up: Scott
> M,
> > Dave
> > > M, Mike C, Carl,
> > > Geert, Noah, Rich C, Steve B, John S.
> > >
> > > Jen� Shaw is the only woman I've sure is
> running;
> > > maybe Jan knows of others.
> > >
> > > Mike C said he can drive and take 4 others: Scott
> M,
> > Dave
> > > M, Carl and I have
> > > asked for rides. I don't know yet of other
> > drivers.
> > >
> > > I'll be back on Aug. 9. In the meantime we
> can
> > share
> > > info on
> > > runners/cars/ riders by hitting Reply All (or
> going to
> > my
> > > original Yahoo
> > > message � I don't know who's on the
> > listserve and
> > > who's not).
> > >
> > > Hope to see many of you on the 16th.
> > >
> > > John

#1503

From: Carl <carlube@...>
Date: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:14 pm
Subject: Re: Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.

carlselyahammer

Offline

Geert, I commuted by bike all of last winter and I would definitely agree with the face mask, or balclava, suggestion. The second most important piece of equipment I used were 'wind stopper' gloves that look like a lobster's claw. Picture the Star Trek hand sign and that gives you an idea of the shape of the glove. Having two fingers in one glove finger goes a long way in keeping them warm. On the colder days I would agree with Sara and double up with a bar of thin running gloves.

Lastly, when there's ice on the roads, just remember that it's not worth it to ride. The bridges are especially treacherous.

-Carl

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Sara Niccoli <cordecredens@...> wrote:

Hey Geert (and everyone!)- So sorry to hear about your injury. Yes! You can bike commute all winter. Get something to cover your face (not very high tech but I use a handknit scarf wrapped round my face, it's warm and doesn't get moist from breath), wear superwarm gloves (try doubling up a pair of running gloves and a heavier pair), and make sure to have lots of blinking lights. And...stay in the habit, if you take a "break" you won't want to start up again til spring. This year, I'm trying snowshoe running. (Must be easier on the bad hip than pavement!?) Best. -Sara

-----Original Message-----
>From: Colleen Eren <atalanta26pt2@...>
>Sent: Aug 19, 2008 10:05 PM
>To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.
>
>Hi, Geert:
>I'm sorry to hear that you are plagued with injury. Hey, we can all sympathize, I've been out with several problems. I joined the Brooklyn tri Club, and they Bike throughout the year, even in Winter, so you can perhaps cross train with them. $30 for the club fee. They're pretty good, several rides a week. Look them up!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Colleen Eren
>Organizing Director
>New Yorkers Against the Death Penalty
>www.nyadp.org
>cell: 5168492363
>"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind"~J.Donne
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...> wrote:
>
>From: Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...>
>Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.
>To: "brooklynroadrunners" <BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com>
>Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 9:42 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>As an alternative to running, while injured I am bikommuting to Manhattan.
>
>This summer the number of cyclists has really gone up: in May, it were still mostly isolated old ten speed bicycles. Then there was the invasion of the track bikes. Now a staunch majority of the crowd drives brand new vehicles. There was actually a traffic jam on Manhattan bridge this week.
>
>My main concern is wintertime. Do I have to stop my bikommute when daylight losing time is introduced in fall? Or is the security situation sufficiently improved to continue thriugh witner?
>
>What are the options?
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Geert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
Carl x

#1502

From: Sara Niccoli <cordecredens@...>
Date: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:14 am
Subject: Re: Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.

theoneandonl...

Offline

Hey Geert (and everyone!)- So sorry to hear about your injury. Yes! You can bike
commute all winter.  Get something to cover your face (not very high tech but I
use a handknit scarf wrapped round my face, it's warm and doesn't get moist from
breath), wear superwarm gloves (try doubling up a pair of running gloves and a
heavier pair), and make sure to have lots of blinking lights. And...stay in the
habit, if you take a "break" you won't want to start up again til spring.  This
year, I'm trying snowshoe running. (Must be easier on the bad hip than
pavement!?)  Best. -Sara

-----Original Message-----
>From: Colleen Eren <atalanta26pt2@...>
>Sent: Aug 19, 2008 10:05 PM
>To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what
about winter.
>
>Hi,  Geert:
>I'm sorry to hear that you are plagued with injury. Hey, we can all
sympathize, I've been out with several problems. I joined the Brooklyn tri Club,
and they Bike throughout the year, even in Winter, so you can perhaps cross
train with them. $30 for the club fee. They're pretty good, several rides a
week. Look them up!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Colleen Eren
>Organizing Director
>New Yorkers Against the Death Penalty
>www.nyadp.org
>cell: 5168492363
>"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind"~J.Donne
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...> wrote:
>
>From: Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...>
>Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what
about winter.
>To: "brooklynroadrunners" <BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com>
>Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 9:42 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>As an alternative to running, while injured I am bikommuting to Manhattan.
>
>This summer the number of cyclists has really gone up: in May, it were still
mostly isolated old ten speed bicycles. Then there was the invasion of the track
bikes. Now a staunch majority of the crowd drives brand new vehicles. There was
actually a traffic jam on Manhattan bridge this week.
>
>My main concern is wintertime. Do I have to stop my bikommute when daylight
losing time is introduced in fall? Or is the security situation sufficiently
improved to continue thriugh witner?
>
>What are the options?
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Geert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

#1501

From: Colleen Eren <atalanta26pt2@...>
Date: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:05 am
Subject: Re: Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.

atalanta26pt2

Offline

Hi, Geert:
I'm sorry to hear that you are plagued with injury. Hey, we can all sympathize, I've been out with several problems. I joined the Brooklyn tri Club, and they Bike throughout the year, even in Winter, so you can perhaps cross train with them. $30 for the club fee. They're pretty good, several rides a week. Look them up!

Colleen Eren
Organizing Director
New Yorkers Against the Death Penalty
www.nyadp.org
cell: 5168492363
"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind"~J.Donne

--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...> wrote:

From: Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...>
Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.
To: "brooklynroadrunners" <BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 9:42 PM

As an alternative to running, while injured I am bikommuting to Manhattan.

This summer the number of cyclists has really gone up: in May, it were still mostly isolated old ten speed bicycles. Then there was the invasion of the track bikes. Now a staunch majority of the crowd drives brand new vehicles. There was actually a traffic jam on Manhattan bridge this week.

My main concern is wintertime. Do I have to stop my bikommute when daylight losing time is introduced in fall? Or is the security situation sufficiently improved to continue thriugh witner?

What are the options?

Any ideas?

Geert

#1500

From: "Geert Vansintjan" <geert.vansintjan@...>
Date: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:42 am
Subject: Cross training: bicycle commuting, but what about winter.

geert.vansin...

Offline

As an alternative to running, while injured I am bikommuting to Manhattan.

This summer the number of cyclists has really gone up: in May, it were still mostly isolated old ten speed bicycles. Then there was the invasion of the track bikes. Now a staunch majority of the crowd drives brand new vehicles. There was actually a traffic jam on Manhattan bridge this week.

My main concern is wintertime. Do I have to stop my bikommute when daylight losing time is introduced in fall? Or is the security situation sufficiently improved to continue thriugh witner?

What are the options?

Any ideas?

Geert

#1499

From: "Geert Vansintjan" <geert.vansintjan@...>
Date: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:17 am
Subject: Injured for a few years now.

geert.vansin...

Offline

So I decided to try to heal while not running at all for a few months.

This will even more diminish my role in the club. So please, if you know some basics of spelling, publish on the website the daily running news. If someone can take over more of the website, please do.

I will really miss running and the runners.

Geert

#1498

From: "Geert Vansintjan" <geert.vansintjan@...>
Date: Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:51 pm
Subject: elope from the slope

geert.vansin...

Offline

I received a request from Nicole, who trains for the marathon this fall, for reviving the "elope to the slope" runs: regular runs from work in midtown to home in Park Slope. I did it during the years I prepared for the Marathon, and it gives a time-efficient way to add mileage, and adds some easy adventure.

If anybody is interested, you can reply here, and contact her directly at: nicolewetsch@...

Geert

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#1497

From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@...>
Date: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: Car Situation for Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)

jshostrom

Offline

Current drivers: Elias, Mike C, Steve B

Current riders, per my list:

Scott McCraw
Dave M
Carl
Geert
John S
Spencer
Mike Barry
Steve Remy (I think)

Anybody else need a ride? Anybody on this list not needing a ride? Please
respond so we'll know who to wait for tomorrow.

Thanks.

John


--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Dave M <kosherdave@...> wrote:

> From: Dave M <kosherdave@...>
> Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Car Situation for Team Championships, Aug.
16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
> To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 5:19 PM
> I will not need a ride back, just a ride in, so that frees
> up some space on the return at least.
>  
> ~Dave M
>
> --- On Fri, 8/15/08, John Shostrom
> <jshostrom@...> wrote:
>
> From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@...>
> Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Car Situation for Team
> Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
> To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 1:08 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve can drive, so there is now plenty of room. Steve may
> have to go back to Brooklyn early, so it's possible that
> some riders may have to take the subway back.
>
> John
>
> --- On Fri, 8/15/08, John Shostrom <jshostrom@yahoo.
> com> wrote:
>
> > From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@yahoo. com>
> > Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunner s] Car Situation for Team
> Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
> > To: BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 3:20 PM
> > Noah can't make it tomorrow because of a fmaily
> > situation, so it's looking tight for seats in the
> 2
> > remaining cars. My list shows 8 extra riders for the 2
> cars,
> > which is exactly the limit.
> >
> > Can anyone else drive? I have a call in to Steve
> Bonal, but
> > he often can just barely get away for the race because
> he
> > works.
> >
> > Alternatively, if anyone who has asked for a ride can
> just
> > as easily take the subway, that would alleviate
> crowding.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Geert Vansintjan
> > <geert.vansintjan@ gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Geert Vansintjan
> > <geert.vansintjan@ gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunner s] Team
> Championships,
> > Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
> > > To: "brooklynroadrunner s"
> > <BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com>
> > > Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 5:01 PM
> > > Just a reminder for the team race next week-end:
> > >
> > > All able bodied men and women in Brooklyn are
> expected
> > to
> > > participate in
> > > this race as a BRRC runner. .
> > >
> > > Participating is more important than winning,
> although
> > we
> > > would not mind to
> > > win.
> > >
> > > Geert
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: John Shostrom <john_shostrom@
> simail.com>
> > > Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM
> > > Subject: Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men),
> 9 am
> > > (women)
> > > T
> > >
> > > Some of you have read and/or responded to my
> Yahoo
> > > posting, so my apologies
> > > ahead of time for the multiple messages. I'll
> be
> > out of
> > > town and mostly out
> > > of touch for much of the next two weeks, starting
> on
> > > Wednesday.
> > >
> > > It's all hands on deck for this race,
> especially
> > for
> > > the men — we need 10
> > > men for a legal team, the usual 5 for the women.
> The
> > race
> > > costs only $5 and
> > > is very exciting — if you've never run the
> Team
> > > Championships, you're in for
> > > a treat.
> > >
> > > So far BRRC has the following men lined up: Scott
> M,
> > Dave
> > > M, Mike C, Carl,
> > > Geert, Noah, Rich C, Steve B, John S.
> > >
> > > Jené Shaw is the only woman I've sure is
> running;
> > > maybe Jan knows of others.
> > >
> > > Mike C said he can drive and take 4 others: Scott
> M,
> > Dave
> > > M, Carl and I have
> > > asked for rides. I don't know yet of other
> > drivers.
> > >
> > > I'll be back on Aug. 9. In the meantime we
> can
> > share
> > > info on
> > > runners/cars/ riders by hitting Reply All (or
> going to
> > my
> > > original Yahoo
> > > message — I don't know who's on the
> > listserve and
> > > who's not).
> > >
> > > Hope to see many of you on the 16th.
> > >
> > > John

#1496

From: Dave M <kosherdave@...>
Date: Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:19 pm
Subject: Re: Car Situation for Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)

kosherdave

Offline

I will not need a ride back, just a ride in, so that frees up some space on the return at least.

~Dave M

--- On Fri, 8/15/08, John Shostrom <jshostrom@...> wrote:

From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@...>
Subject: Re: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Car Situation for Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 1:08 PM

Steve can drive, so there is now plenty of room. Steve may have to go back to Brooklyn early, so it's possible that some riders may have to take the subway back.

John

--- On Fri, 8/15/08, John Shostrom <jshostrom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@yahoo. com>
> Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunner s] Car Situation for Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
> To: BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 3:20 PM
> Noah can't make it tomorrow because of a fmaily
> situation, so it's looking tight for seats in the 2
> remaining cars. My list shows 8 extra riders for the 2 cars,
> which is exactly the limit.
>
> Can anyone else drive? I have a call in to Steve Bonal, but
> he often can just barely get away for the race because he
> works.
>
> Alternatively, if anyone who has asked for a ride can just
> as easily take the subway, that would alleviate crowding.
>
> John
>
>
> --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Geert Vansintjan
> <geert.vansintjan@ gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Geert Vansintjan
> <geert.vansintjan@ gmail.com>
> > Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunner s] Team Championships,
> Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
> > To: "brooklynroadrunner s"
> <BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com>
> > Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 5:01 PM
> > Just a reminder for the team race next week-end:
> >
> > All able bodied men and women in Brooklyn are expected
> to
> > participate in
> > this race as a BRRC runner. .
> >
> > Participating is more important than winning, although
> we
> > would not mind to
> > win.
> >
> > Geert
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: John Shostrom <john_shostrom@ simail.com>
> > Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM
> > Subject: Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am
> > (women)
> > T
> >
> > Some of you have read and/or responded to my Yahoo
> > posting, so my apologies
> > ahead of time for the multiple messages. I'll be
> out of
> > town and mostly out
> > of touch for much of the next two weeks, starting on
> > Wednesday.
> >
> > It's all hands on deck for this race, especially
> for
> > the men � we need 10
> > men for a legal team, the usual 5 for the women. The
> race
> > costs only $5 and
> > is very exciting � if you've never run the Team
> > Championships, you're in for
> > a treat.
> >
> > So far BRRC has the following men lined up: Scott M,
> Dave
> > M, Mike C, Carl,
> > Geert, Noah, Rich C, Steve B, John S.
> >
> > Jen� Shaw is the only woman I've sure is running;
> > maybe Jan knows of others.
> >
> > Mike C said he can drive and take 4 others: Scott M,
> Dave
> > M, Carl and I have
> > asked for rides. I don't know yet of other
> drivers.
> >
> > I'll be back on Aug. 9. In the meantime we can
> share
> > info on
> > runners/cars/ riders by hitting Reply All (or going to
> my
> > original Yahoo
> > message � I don't know who's on the
> listserve and
> > who's not).
> >
> > Hope to see many of you on the 16th.
> >
> > John

#1495

From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@...>
Date: Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: Car Situation for Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)

jshostrom

Offline

Steve can drive, so there is now plenty of room. Steve may have to go back to
Brooklyn early, so it's possible that some riders may have to take the subway
back.

John


--- On Fri, 8/15/08, John Shostrom <jshostrom@...> wrote:

> From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@...>
> Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Car Situation for Team Championships, Aug. 16,
8 am (men), 9 am (women)
> To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 3:20 PM
> Noah can't make it tomorrow because of a fmaily
> situation, so it's looking tight for seats in the 2
> remaining cars. My list shows 8 extra riders for the 2 cars,
> which is exactly the limit.
>
> Can anyone else drive? I have a call in to Steve Bonal, but
> he often can just barely get away for the race because he
> works.
>
> Alternatively, if anyone who has asked for a ride can just
> as easily take the subway, that would alleviate crowding.
>
> John
>
>
> --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Geert Vansintjan
> <geert.vansintjan@...> wrote:
>
> > From: Geert Vansintjan
> <geert.vansintjan@...>
> > Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Team Championships,
> Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
> > To: "brooklynroadrunners"
> <BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 5:01 PM
> > Just a reminder for the team race next week-end:
> >
> > All able bodied men and women in Brooklyn are expected
> to
> > participate in
> > this race as a BRRC runner. .
> >
> > Participating is more important than winning, although
> we
> > would not mind to
> > win.
> >
> > Geert
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: John Shostrom <john_shostrom@...>
> > Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM
> > Subject: Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am
> > (women)
> > T
> >
> >  Some of you have read and/or responded to my Yahoo
> > posting, so my apologies
> > ahead of time for the multiple messages. I'll be
> out of
> > town and mostly out
> > of touch for much of the next two weeks, starting on
> > Wednesday.
> >
> > It's all hands on deck for this race, especially
> for
> > the men — we need 10
> > men for a legal team, the usual 5 for the women. The
> race
> > costs only $5 and
> > is very exciting — if you've never run the Team
> > Championships, you're in for
> > a treat.
> >
> > So far BRRC has the following men lined up: Scott M,
> Dave
> > M, Mike C, Carl,
> > Geert, Noah, Rich C, Steve B, John S.
> >
> > Jené Shaw is the only woman I've sure is running;
> > maybe Jan knows of others.
> >
> > Mike C said he can drive and take 4 others: Scott M,
> Dave
> > M, Carl and I have
> > asked for rides. I don't know yet of other
> drivers.
> >
> > I'll be back on Aug. 9. In the meantime we can
> share
> > info on
> > runners/cars/riders by hitting Reply All (or going to
> my
> > original Yahoo
> > message — I don't know who's on the
> listserve and
> > who's not).
> >
> > Hope to see many of you on the 16th.
> >
> > John

#1494

From: Michael Barry <mbarry79@...>
Date: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: Car Situation for Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)

mbarry79

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It's not a problem for me to take the subway. I'll meet you guys up there.

Mike B.

----- Original Message ----
From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@...>
To: BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 11:20:17 AM
Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Car Situation for Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)

Noah can't make it tomorrow because of a fmaily situation, so it's looking tight for seats in the 2 remaining cars. My list shows 8 extra riders for the 2 cars, which is exactly the limit.

Can anyone else drive? I have a call in to Steve Bonal, but he often can just barely get away for the race because he works.

Alternatively, if anyone who has asked for a ride can just as easily take the subway, that would alleviate crowding.

John

--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@ gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@ gmail.com>
> Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunner s] Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
> To: "brooklynroadrunner s" <BrooklynRoadRunners @yahoogroups. com>
> Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 5:01 PM
> Just a reminder for the team race next week-end:
>
> All able bodied men and women in Brooklyn are expected to
> participate in
> this race as a BRRC runner. .
>
> Participating is more important than winning, although we
> would not mind to
> win.
>
> Geert
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: John Shostrom <john_shostrom@ simail.com>
> Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM
> Subject: Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am
> (women)
> T
>
> Some of you have read and/or responded to my Yahoo
> posting, so my apologies
> ahead of time for the multiple messages. I'll be out of
> town and mostly out
> of touch for much of the next two weeks, starting on
> Wednesday.
>
> It's all hands on deck for this race, especially for
> the men � we need 10
> men for a legal team, the usual 5 for the women. The race
> costs only $5 and
> is very exciting � if you've never run the Team
> Championships, you're in for
> a treat.
>
> So far BRRC has the following men lined up: Scott M, Dave
> M, Mike C, Carl,
> Geert, Noah, Rich C, Steve B, John S.
>
> Jen� Shaw is the only woman I've sure is running;
> maybe Jan knows of others.
>
> Mike C said he can drive and take 4 others: Scott M, Dave
> M, Carl and I have
> asked for rides. I don't know yet of other drivers.
>
> I'll be back on Aug. 9. In the meantime we can share
> info on
> runners/cars/ riders by hitting Reply All (or going to my
> original Yahoo
> message � I don't know who's on the listserve and
> who's not).
>
> Hope to see many of you on the 16th.
>
> John

#1493

From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@...>
Date: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:20 pm
Subject: Car Situation for Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)

jshostrom

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Noah can't make it tomorrow because of a fmaily situation, so it's looking tight
for seats in the 2 remaining cars. My list shows 8 extra riders for the 2 cars,
which is exactly the limit.

Can anyone else drive? I have a call in to Steve Bonal, but he often can just
barely get away for the race because he works.

Alternatively, if anyone who has asked for a ride can just as easily take the
subway, that would alleviate crowding.

John


--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...> wrote:

> From: Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...>
> Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am
(women)
> To: "brooklynroadrunners" <BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 5:01 PM
> Just a reminder for the team race next week-end:
>
> All able bodied men and women in Brooklyn are expected to
> participate in
> this race as a BRRC runner. .
>
> Participating is more important than winning, although we
> would not mind to
> win.
>
> Geert
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: John Shostrom <john_shostrom@...>
> Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM
> Subject: Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am
> (women)
> T
>
>  Some of you have read and/or responded to my Yahoo
> posting, so my apologies
> ahead of time for the multiple messages. I'll be out of
> town and mostly out
> of touch for much of the next two weeks, starting on
> Wednesday.
>
> It's all hands on deck for this race, especially for
> the men — we need 10
> men for a legal team, the usual 5 for the women. The race
> costs only $5 and
> is very exciting — if you've never run the Team
> Championships, you're in for
> a treat.
>
> So far BRRC has the following men lined up: Scott M, Dave
> M, Mike C, Carl,
> Geert, Noah, Rich C, Steve B, John S.
>
> Jené Shaw is the only woman I've sure is running;
> maybe Jan knows of others.
>
> Mike C said he can drive and take 4 others: Scott M, Dave
> M, Carl and I have
> asked for rides. I don't know yet of other drivers.
>
> I'll be back on Aug. 9. In the meantime we can share
> info on
> runners/cars/riders by hitting Reply All (or going to my
> original Yahoo
> message — I don't know who's on the listserve and
> who's not).
>
> Hope to see many of you on the 16th.
>
> John

#1492

From: "brooklyn_rrc" <balbos@...>
Date: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:53 pm
Subject: Kittens for Adoption

brooklyn_rrc

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I know this isn't a normal post for this forum, but I'm helping my
sister to adopt 2 kittens that she recently rescued.  They're
approximately 6-7 weeks old, very cute and very social.

If you're interested please contact me at balbos@....

#1491

From: Mike Cassaday <cassaday@...>
Date: Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)

cassaday@...

Hello all. I will be there, with car at 6:15. See you then.

Cheers,

Mike

On Aug 13, 2008, at 8:13 PM, John Shostrom <jshostrom@...> wrote:

We have 3 drivers for the men's race -- Noah, Elias and Mike. The cars should leave no later than 6:30. Elias will probably arrive at about 6:15, and we can fill the cars as people arrive, and leave car by car (i.e., no need to wait to all go together).

The race starts at 102nd Street on the East Side.

Only two women that I know of are running, and neither needs a ride.

Good luck to everyone on Saturday!

John

----- Original Message ----
From: Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@gmail.com>
To: brooklynroadrunners <BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:01:13 PM
Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)

Just a reminder for the team race next week-end:

All able bodied men and women in Brooklyn are expected to participate in this race as a BRRC runner. .

Participating is more important than winning, although we would not mind to win.

Geert

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John Shostrom <john_shostrom@ simail.com>
Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Subject: Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
T

Some of you have read and/or responded to my Yahoo posting, so my apologies ahead of time for the multiple messages. I'll be out of town and mostly out of touch for much of the next two weeks, starting on Wednesday.

It's all hands on deck for this race, especially for the men — we need 10 men for a legal team, the usual 5 for the women. The race costs only $5 and is very exciting — if you've never run the Team Championships, you're in for a treat.

So far BRRC has the following men lined up: Scott M, Dave M, Mike C, Carl, Geert, Noah, Rich C, Steve B, John S.

Jené Shaw is the only woman I've sure is running; maybe Jan knows of others.

Mike C said he can drive and take 4 others: Scott M, Dave M, Carl and I have asked for rides. I don't know yet of other drivers.

I'll be back on Aug. 9. In the meantime we can share info on runners/cars/ riders by hitting Reply All (or going to my original Yahoo message — I don't know who's on the listserve and who's not).

Hope to see many of you on the 16th..

John

#1490

From: John Shostrom <jshostrom@...>
Date: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:13 am
Subject: Re: Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)

jshostrom

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We have 3 drivers for the men's race -- Noah, Elias and Mike. The cars should leave no later than 6:30. Elias will probably arrive at about 6:15, and we can fill the cars as people arrive, and leave car by car (i.e., no need to wait to all go together).

The race starts at 102nd Street on the East Side.

Only two women that I know of are running, and neither needs a ride.

Good luck to everyone on Saturday!

John

----- Original Message ----
From: Geert Vansintjan <geert.vansintjan@...>
To: brooklynroadrunners <BrooklynRoadRunners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:01:13 PM
Subject: [BrooklynRoadRunners] Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)

Just a reminder for the team race next week-end:

All able bodied men and women in Brooklyn are expected to participate in this race as a BRRC runner. .

Participating is more important than winning, although we would not mind to win.

Geert

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John Shostrom <john_shostrom@ simail.com>
Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Subject: Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
T

Some of you have read and/or responded to my Yahoo posting, so my apologies ahead of time for the multiple messages. I'll be out of town and mostly out of touch for much of the next two weeks, starting on Wednesday.

It's all hands on deck for this race, especially for the men � we need 10 men for a legal team, the usual 5 for the women. The race costs only $5 and is very exciting � if you've never run the Team Championships, you're in for a treat.

So far BRRC has the following men lined up: Scott M, Dave M, Mike C, Carl, Geert, Noah, Rich C, Steve B, John S.

Jen� Shaw is the only woman I've sure is running; maybe Jan knows of others.

Mike C said he can drive and take 4 others: Scott M, Dave M, Carl and I have asked for rides. I don't know yet of other drivers.

I'll be back on Aug. 9. In the meantime we can share info on runners/cars/ riders by hitting Reply All (or going to my original Yahoo message � I don't know who's on the listserve and who's not).

Hope to see many of you on the 16th..

John

#1489

From: "Geert Vansintjan" <geert.vansintjan@...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:43 pm
Subject: Website upgrade, please feedback

geert.vansin...

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I just upgraded the wiki engine for the website.

Please check the website whether everything works as it should.

The advantages of this upgrade are mainly under the hood: better safety, more possibilities for people who want to post on the site, etc.

Geert

#1488

From: "Geert Vansintjan" <geert.vansintjan@...>
Date: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:01 pm
Subject: Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)

geert.vansin...

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John Shostrom <john_shostrom@...>
Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Subject: Team Championships, Aug. 16, 8 am (men), 9 am (women)
T

Some of you have read and/or responded to my Yahoo posting, so my apologies ahead of time for the multiple messages. I'll be out of town and mostly out of touch for much of the next two weeks, starting on Wednesday.

It's all hands on deck for this race, especially for the men � we need 10 men for a legal team, the usual 5 for the women. The race costs only $5 and is very exciting � if you've never run the Team Championships, you're in for a treat.

So far BRRC has the following men lined up: Scott M, Dave M, Mike C, Carl, Geert, Noah, Rich C, Steve B, John S.

Jen� Shaw is the only woman I've sure is running; maybe Jan knows of others.

Mike C said he can drive and take 4 others: Scott M, Dave M, Carl and I have asked for rides. I don't know yet of other drivers.

I'll be back on Aug. 9. In the meantime we can share info on runners/cars/riders by hitting Reply All (or going to my original Yahoo message � I don't know who's on the listserve and who's not).

Hope to see many of you on the 16th.

John

#1487

From: dogfish8@...
Date: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:59 pm
Subject: Want a small 2008 Peachtree Road Race t-shirt (free)?

thesameage

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I have an extra one we brought back up that my wife does not want. Shoot me an
e-mail if you want it and I'll send it to you.