Greetings Bob,



I find your posting to be quite a good summation. Very clear, concise and to the

point.



I only have one question... you wrote:





"It should be able to fly high and perform diminishing circles in a more complex

pattern back to where it was thrown when thrown to achieve that result."





I've always thought that a booomerang that quickly achieves a stable hover on

return is a very desirable trait for many throwers. (Of course, there are other

returns that I personally find desirable... a quick drop down... a low return

with a last minute stall out etc. etc.)



I'd be interested in why you hold the diminishing circles as the "gold standard"

for returns.



Of course, if I've misunderstood, please forgive me.



Bruce Bernstein

Chicago, IL



"Rangs by Bruce"

http://www.RangsByBruce.com

Good Day Bruce

	 And I thought nobody read my postings. Far from being a nobody, I

believe you and your boomerangs are second to none.



	 My boomerang flight expectations comes from many years of testing my

fathers boomerangs, which offcourse came to testing my own.

	 Test one was to throw the boomerang so as it would go around to

perform one circle and return to where it was thrown.

	 The second test that I did not include in my last posting was the

one that you described,

Bruce wrote (Of course, there are other returns that I personally find

desirable... a quick drop down... a low return with a last minute stall out

etc.)

My father named that throwing style "Zoom Throw". I throw the boomerang out

low with a little more layover than normal. Its height peaks at the turn

point, comes back towards you gathering speed as it loses height, skims the

ground and stalls at waist height for an easy catch.

	 I have found that is the hardest style of throw to teach to

beginners.



I use it all the time, especially when checking long distance. I would sand

material from the boomerang until the weight flight ratio would not cause it

to crash when returning, but just skim the ground.

  In my days of making long distance boomerangs, that was how I would achieve

maximum distance. The technique these days is somewhat different. I am sure

the arm stress is somewhat less as well.



  The high flight with diminishing circles was my final test throw. There was

the initial major circle, the boomerang would come back overhead, then go

forwards again and descend in a controlled hover prescribing diminishing

circles to come down from where it was thrown.

	 My description is only describing what my expectations are for a

boomerang. There are many other throws and flight patterns that I have not

included that are used by me. Sometimes my memory recall these days is not

as nimble as it once was.

				 Thanks for your enquire Bruce. Somebody

needs to keep me on my toes.

Brisbane Bob







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Greetings Bob,



I find your posting to be quite a good summation. Very clear, concise and to

the point.



I only have one question... you wrote:





"It should be able to fly high and perform diminishing circles in a more

complex pattern back to where it was thrown when thrown to achieve that

result."





I've always thought that a booomerang that quickly achieves a stable hover

on return is a very desirable trait for many throwers. (Of course, there are

other returns that I personally find desirable... a quick drop down... a low

return with a last minute stall out etc. etc.)



I'd be interested in why you hold the diminishing circles as the "gold

standard" for returns.



Of course, if I've misunderstood, please forgive me.



Bruce Bernstein

Chicago, IL



"Rangs by Bruce"

http://www.RangsByBruce.com



















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On 02/07/2009, at 2:48 PM, Bob Burwell wrote:

> My father named that throwing style "Zoom Throw". I throw the

> boomerang out

> low with a little more layover than normal. Its height peaks at the

> turn

> point, comes back towards you gathering speed as it loses height,

> skims the

> ground and stalls at waist height for an easy catch.

>

I love throwing the Viper this way in low/no wind!

> The high flight with diminishing circles was my final test throw.

> There was

> the initial major circle, the boomerang would come back overhead,

> then go

> forwards again and descend in a controlled hover prescribing

> diminishing

> circles to come down from where it was thrown.

> My description is only describing what my expectations are for a

> boomerang.

>

I suspect that Bob's many years as a performer make this option more

appealing -- especially if it means by applying more power you can get

two (or more!) large loops out of one throw. Much more dramatic!



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Greetings Bob,



Thanks for answer... and your very kinds words about my sticks.



I'm quite that your posts are eagerly read by all of the BT members. I know I

most certainly do! Please keep 'em coming!



Bruce Bernstein

Chicago, IL



"Rangs by Bruce"

http://www.RangsByBruce.com



>

> Good Day Bruce

>  And I thought nobody read my postings. Far from being a nobody, I

> believe you and your boomerangs are second to none.

>

>  My boomerang flight expectations comes from many years of testing my

> fathers boomerangs, which offcourse came to testing my own.

>