Hi everyone,



Since there's really no one in my life who would really care, or even

understand this story, I figured I'd post it here for the few who

could actually understand my and perhaps share in my excitement.



Most of the rangs I make and have acquired so far are 40-80 meter

type of sticks, and I've been getting the hankering to throw LD.



I've thrown Red Rocket, Mini Marathon weighted, Crazy Horse type

sticks with reasonable success, but I was never quite truly

satisified with the results.



I recently acquired a 3mm G11 Buzz Whip, but have been a might afraid

to throw it since I hadn't tossed that type of stick before.



So yesterday, the conditions were reasonable, so I screwed up my

courage,loosened up with some of my regular suspects, and then picked

up the Buzz Whip.



The first flight was OK.... not bad, and the rang seemed to do what

it was supposed to, but I obviously didn't "go for it", and the lack

of a complete return was the result.



So I figured, "hell with it - let's see what happens". I cocked it

back, and gave it a fairly hard throw with a little less layover, and

a bit more snap.



It was a thing of beauty!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd describe the flight as the

DuF pattern described in the LD book (Circular rather than

elliptical). It just took to the air and flew and flew and then flew

so more. If I had to guess, I'd say a the farthest point it must of

been close to 100 yards if not more(but I know how wrong I could be

in that estimate) but my jaw dropped and I started muttering to

myself about how amazing it was. Then as it started its return, it

started to dawn on me, that it was actually coming right back to me!!!



I couldn't believe it!!! It was slowing down, dropping and coming in

at midchest level, and I CAUGHT IT!!!!!! If I even took 2 steps, I'd

be amazed. It was just sooooooooo cool. Indeed, it was beautiful!



I'm still smiling, and don't mind the welt on my arm in the least.



Bruce (still grinning) Bernstein

Chicago, IL





"Rangs by Bruce"

http://members.aol.com/rangsbybruce

Hi everyone,

Since there's really no one in my life who would really care, or even
understand this story, I figured I'd post it here for the few who
could actually understand my and perhaps share in my excitement.

Most of the rangs I make and have acquired so far are 40-80 meter
type of sticks, and I've been getting the hankering to throw LD.

I've thrown Red Rocket, Mini Marathon weighted, Crazy Horse type
sticks with reasonable success, but I was never quite truly
satisified with the results.

I recently acquired a 3mm G11 Buzz Whip, but have been a might afraid
to throw it since I hadn't tossed that type of stick before.

So yesterday, the conditions were reasonable, so I screwed up my
courage,loosened up with some of my regular suspects, and then picked
up the Buzz Whip.

The first flight was OK.... not bad, and the rang seemed to do what
it was supposed to, but I obviously didn't "go for it", and the lack
of a complete return was the result.

So I figured, "hell with it - let's see what happens". I cocked it
back, and gave it a fairly hard throw with a little less layover, and
a bit more snap.

It was a thing of beauty!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd describe the flight as the
DuF pattern described in the LD book (Circular rather than
elliptical). It just took to the air and flew and flew and then flew
so more. If I had to guess, I'd say a the farthest point it must of
been close to 100 yards if not more(but I know how wrong I could be
in that estimate) but my jaw dropped and I started muttering to
myself about how amazing it was. Then as it started its return, it
started to dawn on me, that it was actually coming right back to me!!!

I couldn't believe it!!! It was slowing down, dropping and coming in
at midchest level, and I CAUGHT IT!!!!!! If I even took 2 steps, I'd
be amazed. It was just sooooooooo cool. Indeed, it was beautiful!

I'm still smiling, and don't mind the welt on my arm in the least.

Bruce (still grinning) Bernstein
Chicago, IL

"Rangs by Bruce"
http://members.aol.com/rangsbybruce

Hey everyone.



Two good stories there. I can only imagine what it's like to throw 100m and have

a near-perfect return.



One day....



Glenn.



--- On Sun, 5/11/08, CHRIS KALFA <chriskalfa@...> wrote:



> From: CHRIS KALFA <chriskalfa@...>

> Subject: Re: [Boomerang_Talk] A thing of beauty

> To: Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Sunday, May 11, 2008, 3:23 AM

> Hi Bruce,

>  Ahhhhh yes, a thing of beauty indeed.  I remember when I

> first had that cherry popped, if you can count the Colorado

> Kilimanjaro close to that category. I remember the B-Mans

> description in his catalog about the long lumbering flight

> that just looks like it'll never return, yet does ! I

> was out at the Lake Michigan waterfront here in Kenosha,

> eyed the flag in the foreground to re-check wind direction.

> Staring at the rang in my hands, watching people on and

> around the beach and pier. Looking at the flag, the rang

> the flag, feeling the heft to the rang, than over to where

> my boys stood watching and waiting. It felt like the right

> time was now here, upon the patch of sand where I stood. I

> adjusted the grip on the boom, changed my stance a bit, and

> just let it rip.

>  I was just like.........wow ! I watched it go and go and

> go a bit more. Than it seemed to slowly veer off to the

> left and go some more, before completing its arc and

> returned to me. I actually took a step back when I made the

> catch. It came in about waist level, and fast. I was like

> you, exactly..........soooo coool ! After I sent it off on

> about it's third trip, did I realize that I had a crowd

> on the pier watching, let alone a third of the beach goers

> behind me watching as well. Now I was just like make this

> last catch, and back into the water I went, to cool off a

> bit. I entered that deaf / dumb state where all else

> didn't matter, I became one with the wood, one with the

> rang. My eyes never left it's orange-white lumbering

> flight till after I caught it.

>  From that moment forward, I was hooked on the longer

> distance rangs.  Thanks for sharing your story Bruce. This

> is what's is all about. Making memories and living them

> daily. I have since aquired a night version that takes glow

> sticks in each arm. Amazing to see after dark. Chris n

> Kenosha

>

> Bruce <brucembernstein@...> wrote:

>                    Hi everyone,

>

>  Since there's really no one in my life who would

> really care, or even

>  understand this story, I figured I'd post it here for

> the few who

>  could actually understand my and perhaps share in my

> excitement.

>

>  Most of the rangs I make and have acquired so far are

> 40-80 meter

>  type of sticks, and I've been getting the hankering to

> throw LD.

>

>  I've thrown Red Rocket, Mini Marathon weighted, Crazy

> Horse type

>  sticks with reasonable success, but I was never quite

> truly

>  satisified with the results.

>

>  I recently acquired a 3mm G11 Buzz Whip, but have been a

> might afraid

>  to throw it since I hadn't tossed that type of stick

> before.

>

>  So yesterday, the conditions were reasonable, so I screwed

> up my

>  courage,loosened up with some of my regular suspects, and

> then picked

>  up the Buzz Whip.

>

>  The first flight was OK.... not bad, and the rang seemed

> to do what

>  it was supposed to, but I obviously didn't "go

> for it", and the lack

>  of a complete return was the result.

>

>  So I figured, "hell with it - let's see what

> happens". I cocked it

>  back, and gave it a fairly hard throw with a little less

> layover, and

>  a bit more snap.

>

>  It was a thing of beauty!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd describe

> the flight as the

>  DuF pattern described in the LD book (Circular rather than

>

>  elliptical). It just took to the air and flew and flew and

> then flew

>  so more. If I had to guess, I'd say a the farthest

> point it must of

>  been close to 100 yards if not more(but I know how wrong I

> could be

>  in that estimate) but my jaw dropped and I started

> muttering to

>  myself about how amazing it was. Then as it started its

> return, it

>  started to dawn on me, that it was actually coming right

> back to me!!!

>

>  I couldn't believe it!!! It was slowing down, dropping

> and coming in

>  at midchest level, and I CAUGHT IT!!!!!! If I even took 2

> steps, I'd

>  be amazed. It was just sooooooooo cool. Indeed, it was

> beautiful!

>

>  I'm still smiling, and don't mind the welt on my

> arm in the least.

>

>  Bruce (still grinning) Bernstein

>  Chicago, IL

>

>  "Rangs by Bruce"

>  http://members.aol.com/rangsbybruce

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I know the feeling and I think that is what has attracted most of us

to the boomerang. I have been making and throwing boomerangs now for

40 years. I still remember the first time I saw one thrown. My wife

and I were at a birthday party close to a park when I saw at a

distance some guys throwing a boomerang. I eventually made my way

over to them and introduced myself. My first question was where did

they get it. One of the guys spoke up and said his ship stopped off

in Sydney, Australia on thier way back from Viet Nam. I was

mezmerised by it's flight and looked it over trying to figure out the

airfoils so that I could make my own. My first boom was made at work

with a hack saw blade wrapped with cloth to form a handle cutting

thru 3 ply plywood and using files to make the airfoil. One of my co-

workers chided me and said if your so confident about this boomerang

go throw it out over the water and if it works you get it back. I

took him up and about 4 of us made our way to the back of the

chemical plant. I was supposed to walk up on a levee and throw out

over the water but because of security driving around I was hesistant

and told the guys I would throw from the ground level out over the

levee. The guy who challenged me stayed next to a big tank drinking a

cup of coffee with one foot on the tank to steady himself. I walked

out and threw but the boomerang went to low and hit the levee bounced

straight up and them came back like a buzz saw causing my challenger

to jump out of the way and spilling his coffee. My boomerang broke

hitting the tank but I couldn't have asked for a more memorable

ending to my first toss. I too am intriqued with the flight of long

distance booms. It is truly amazing to witness the flight of a

boomerang that goes out so far that you can not see it for a time and

then have it hone in on the base line. They are truly amazing!



Bob Rudy



















--- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, Glenn <gac3825@...> wrote:

>

> Hey everyone.

>

> Two good stories there. I can only imagine what it's like to throw

100m and have a near-perfect return.

>

> One day....

>

> Glenn.

>

> --- On Sun, 5/11/08, CHRIS KALFA <chriskalfa@...> wrote:

>

> > From: CHRIS KALFA <chriskalfa@...>

> > Subject: Re: [Boomerang_Talk] A thing of beauty

> > To: Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com

> > Date: Sunday, May 11, 2008, 3:23 AM

> > Hi Bruce,

> >  Ahhhhh yes, a thing of beauty indeed.  I remember when I

> > first had that cherry popped, if you can count the Colorado

> > Kilimanjaro close to that category. I remember the B-Mans

> > description in his catalog about the long lumbering flight

> > that just looks like it'll never return, yet does ! I

> > was out at the Lake Michigan waterfront here in Kenosha,

> > eyed the flag in the foreground to re-check wind direction.

> > Staring at the rang in my hands, watching people on and

> > around the beach and pier. Looking at the flag, the rang

> > the flag, feeling the heft to the rang, than over to where

> > my boys stood watching and waiting. It felt like the right

> > time was now here, upon the patch of sand where I stood. I

> > adjusted the grip on the boom, changed my stance a bit, and

> > just let it rip.

> >  I was just like.........wow ! I watched it go and go and

> > go a bit more. Than it seemed to slowly veer off to the

> > left and go some more, before completing its arc and

> > returned to me. I actually took a step back when I made the

> > catch. It came in about waist level, and fast. I was like

> > you, exactly..........soooo coool ! After I sent it off on

> > about it's third trip, did I realize that I had a crowd

> > on the pier watching, let alone a third of the beach goers

> > behind me watching as well. Now I was just like make this

> > last catch, and back into the water I went, to cool off a

> > bit. I entered that deaf / dumb state where all else

> > didn't matter, I became one with the wood, one with the

> > rang. My eyes never left it's orange-white lumbering

> > flight till after I caught it.

> >  From that moment forward, I was hooked on the longer

> > distance rangs.  Thanks for sharing your story Bruce. This

> > is what's is all about. Making memories and living them

> > daily. I have since aquired a night version that takes glow

> > sticks in each arm. Amazing to see after dark. Chris n

> > Kenosha

> >

> > Bruce <brucembernstein@...> wrote:

> >                    Hi everyone,

> >

> >  Since there's really no one in my life who would

> > really care, or even

> >  understand this story, I figured I'd post it here for

> > the few who

> >  could actually understand my and perhaps share in my

> > excitement.

> >

> >  Most of the rangs I make and have acquired so far are

> > 40-80 meter

> >  type of sticks, and I've been getting the hankering to

> > throw LD.

> >

> >  I've thrown Red Rocket, Mini Marathon weighted, Crazy

> > Horse type

> >  sticks with reasonable success, but I was never quite

> > truly

> >  satisified with the results.

> >

> >  I recently acquired a 3mm G11 Buzz Whip, but have been a

> > might afraid

> >  to throw it since I hadn't tossed that type of stick

> > before.

> >

> >  So yesterday, the conditions were reasonable, so I screwed

> > up my

> >  courage,loosened up with some of my regular suspects, and

> > then picked

> >  up the Buzz Whip.

> >

> >  The first flight was OK.... not bad, and the rang seemed

> > to do what

> >  it was supposed to, but I obviously didn't "go

> > for it", and the lack

> >  of a complete return was the result.

> >

> >  So I figured, "hell with it - let's see what

> > happens". I cocked it

> >  back, and gave it a fairly hard throw with a little less

> > layover, and

> >  a bit more snap.

> >

> >  It was a thing of beauty!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd describe

> > the flight as the

> >  DuF pattern described in the LD book (Circular rather than

> >

> >  elliptical). It just took to the air and flew and flew and

> > then flew

> >  so more. If I had to guess, I'd say a the farthest

> > point it must of

> >  been close to 100 yards if not more(but I know how wrong I

> > could be

> >  in that estimate) but my jaw dropped and I started

> > muttering to

> >  myself about how amazing it was. Then as it started its

> > return, it

> >  started to dawn on me, that it was actually coming right

> > back to me!!!

> >

> >  I couldn't believe it!!! It was slowing down, dropping

> > and coming in

> >  at midchest level, and I CAUGHT IT!!!!!! If I even took 2

> > steps, I'd

> >  be amazed. It was just sooooooooo cool. Indeed, it was

> > beautiful!

> >

> >  I'm still smiling, and don't mind the welt on my

> > arm in the least.

> >

> >  Bruce (still grinning) Bernstein

> >  Chicago, IL

> >

> >  "Rangs by Bruce"

> >  http://members.aol.com/rangsbybruce

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

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> > Mobile.  Try it now.

>

>

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Hi Everyone.



Hey Bruce, I want to know a little more about this Buzzwhip of yours. In

particular, what

does it have in the way of an/dihedral?



--- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce" <brucembernstein@...> wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Since there's really no one in my life who would really care, or even

> understand this story, I figured I'd post it here for the few who

> could actually understand my and perhaps share in my excitement.

>

> Most of the rangs I make and have acquired so far are 40-80 meter

> type of sticks, and I've been getting the hankering to throw LD.

>

> I've thrown Red Rocket, Mini Marathon weighted, Crazy Horse type

> sticks with reasonable success, but I was never quite truly

> satisified with the results.

>

> I recently acquired a 3mm G11 Buzz Whip, but have been a might afraid

> to throw it since I hadn't tossed that type of stick before.

>

> So yesterday, the conditions were reasonable, so I screwed up my

> courage,loosened up with some of my regular suspects, and then picked

> up the Buzz Whip.

>

> The first flight was OK.... not bad, and the rang seemed to do what

> it was supposed to, but I obviously didn't "go for it", and the lack

> of a complete return was the result.

>

> So I figured, "hell with it - let's see what happens". I cocked it

> back, and gave it a fairly hard throw with a little less layover, and

> a bit more snap.

>

> It was a thing of beauty!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd describe the flight as the

> DuF pattern described in the LD book (Circular rather than

> elliptical). It just took to the air and flew and flew and then flew

> so more. If I had to guess, I'd say a the farthest point it must of

> been close to 100 yards if not more(but I know how wrong I could be

> in that estimate) but my jaw dropped and I started muttering to

> myself about how amazing it was. Then as it started its return, it

> started to dawn on me, that it was actually coming right back to me!!!

>

> I couldn't believe it!!! It was slowing down, dropping and coming in

> at midchest level, and I CAUGHT IT!!!!!! If I even took 2 steps, I'd

> be amazed. It was just sooooooooo cool. Indeed, it was beautiful!

>

> I'm still smiling, and don't mind the welt on my arm in the least.

>

> Bruce (still grinning) Bernstein

> Chicago, IL

>

>

> "Rangs by Bruce"

> http://members.aol.com/rangsbybruce

>

--- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "glenn" <gac3825@...> wrote:



> Hey Bruce, I want to know a little more about this Buzzwhip of

yours. In particular, what

> does it have in the way of an/dihedral?



Glenn,



The Buzz Whip was made by Will Watts,from 3mm G11.



When I recieved it, there was some dihedral on the lead wing, and it

wouldn't fly at all... in fact, it curved to the right!



I thought it through, read the LD book again, and decided it was

laying over WAY too much, so I figured I'd start from "scratch", and

made it as flat as I could... i.e. no an/dihedral or AOA at all.



Turns out that was all it needed!



hope that helps,



Bruce Bernstein

Chicago, IL





"Rangs by Bruce"

http://members.aol.com/rangsbybruce

Hey all.



> hope that helps,

Yeah Bruce, that does help. Thanks! I think I'll have a shot at making one of

those sometime in the near future and you've probably just saved me a lot of

walking.



Glenn.





--- On Tue, 5/13/08, Bruce <brucembernstein@...> wrote:



> From: Bruce <brucembernstein@...>

> Subject: [Boomerang_Talk] Re: A thing of beauty

> To: Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 1:36 AM

> --- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "glenn"

> <gac3825@...> wrote:

>

> > Hey Bruce, I want to know a little more about this

> Buzzwhip of

> yours. In particular, what

> > does it have in the way of an/dihedral?

>

> Glenn,

>

> The Buzz Whip was made by Will Watts,from 3mm G11.

>

> When I recieved it, there was some dihedral on the lead

> wing, and it

> wouldn't fly at all... in fact, it curved to the right!

>

> I thought it through, read the LD book again, and decided

> it was

> laying over WAY too much, so I figured I'd start from

> "scratch", and

> made it as flat as I could... i.e. no an/dihedral or AOA at

> all.

>

> Turns out that was all it needed!

>

> hope that helps,

>

> Bruce Bernstein

> Chicago, IL

>

>

> "Rangs by Bruce"

> http://members.aol.com/rangsbybruce





      

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long distance there.



Cheers,

Dave



---- Original message ----

>Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 17:34:00 -0700 (PDT)

>From: Glenn <gac3825@...>

>Subject: Re: [Boomerang_Talk] Re: A thing of beauty

>To: Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com

>

>Hey all.

>

>> hope that helps,

>Yeah Bruce, that does help. Thanks! I think I'll have a shot at making one of

those sometime in the near future and you've probably just saved me a lot of

walking.

>

>Glenn.

>

>

>--- On Tue, 5/13/08, Bruce <brucembernstein@...> wrote:

>

>> From: Bruce <brucembernstein@...>

>> Subject: [Boomerang_Talk] Re: A thing of beauty

>> To: Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com

>> Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 1:36 AM

>> --- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "glenn"

>> <gac3825@...> wrote:

>>

>> > Hey Bruce, I want to know a little more about this

>> Buzzwhip of

>> yours. In particular, what

>> > does it have in the way of an/dihedral?

>>

>> Glenn,

>>

>> The Buzz Whip was made by Will Watts,from 3mm G11.

>>

>> When I recieved it, there was some dihedral on the lead

>> wing, and it

>> wouldn't fly at all... in fact, it curved to the right!

>>

>> I thought it through, read the LD book again, and decided

>> it was

>> laying over WAY too much, so I figured I'd start from

>> "scratch", and

>> made it as flat as I could... i.e. no an/dihedral or AOA at

>> all.

>>

>> Turns out that was all it needed!

>>

>> hope that helps,

>>

>> Bruce Bernstein

>> Chicago, IL

>>

>>

>> "Rangs by Bruce"

>> http://members.aol.com/rangsbybruce

>

>

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>

>

>

Good idea, Dave.



I get the feeling I'm going to need some good advice on this subject. I heard of

that group a while ago and meant to join up, but I've since forgotten about

them. Thanks for reminding me, I'll go there right now.



Cheers David!



--- On Wed, 5/14/08, Dave Hendricks <bvdrangs@...> wrote:



> From: Dave Hendricks <bvdrangs@...>

> Subject: Re: [Boomerang_Talk] Re: A thing of beauty

> To: Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 8:19 PM

> Glenn

>

> Are you a member of the LD Boomerang group on Yahoo? You

> can get lots of help on long distance there.

>

> Cheers,

> Dave

>

> ---- Original message ----

> >Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 17:34:00 -0700 (PDT)

> >From: Glenn <gac3825@...>

> >Subject: Re: [Boomerang_Talk] Re: A thing of beauty

> >To: Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com

> >

> >Hey all.

> >

> >> hope that helps,

> >Yeah Bruce, that does help. Thanks! I think I'll

> have a shot at making one of those sometime in the near

> future and you've probably just saved me a lot of

> walking.

> >

> >Glenn.

> >

> >

> >--- On Tue, 5/13/08, Bruce

> <brucembernstein@...> wrote:

> >

> >> From: Bruce <brucembernstein@...>

> >> Subject: [Boomerang_Talk] Re: A thing of beauty

> >> To: Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com

> >> Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 1:36 AM

> >> --- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com,

> "glenn"

> >> <gac3825@...> wrote:

> >>

> >> > Hey Bruce, I want to know a little more about

> this

> >> Buzzwhip of

> >> yours. In particular, what

> >> > does it have in the way of an/dihedral?

> >>

> >> Glenn,

> >>

> >> The Buzz Whip was made by Will Watts,from 3mm G11.

> >>

> >> When I recieved it, there was some dihedral on the

> lead

> >> wing, and it

> >> wouldn't fly at all... in fact, it curved to

> the right!

> >>

> >> I thought it through, read the LD book again, and

> decided

> >> it was

> >> laying over WAY too much, so I figured I'd

> start from

> >> "scratch", and

> >> made it as flat as I could... i.e. no an/dihedral

> or AOA at

> >> all.

> >>

> >> Turns out that was all it needed!

> >>

> >> hope that helps,

> >>

> >> Bruce Bernstein

> >> Chicago, IL

> >>

> >>

> >> "Rangs by Bruce"

> >> http://members.aol.com/rangsbybruce

> >

> >

> >

>

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