Hi Guys,





       I've been upgrading my shop a little, trying to fine tune my

production. I bought another trim router and also some bits from this

place http://tinyurl.com/394sy3 Incredible variety and prices compared

to what I've seen elsewhere. Really good service too. Yesterday I was

using some new bits and one older cove bit that I did a lousy job of

modifying for the trailing edge cut. It works but leaves a rougher

edge that I have to even out with the sander. I was not being careful

enough and received a shredded fingertip. DAMN!! I'm okay but needed a

trip to the emergency room for treatment. Doc says it'll grow back and

I feel kind of lucky but also very stupid.



     I've always had an instinctive fear of routers and I used to avoid

them. But as I've cautiously used them and seen others use them I've

become increasingly more comfortable with them. Too comfortable

apparently. The more I use them I see how much time they save and how

evenly they can shape a boom. So I'd have to say I advocate their use.

I just want to remind everyone to enjoy them as I do but respect the

router and keep your fingers.



     I won't be doing any left handed catches for a while but I'll be

back in the shop as soon as I can. They wrapped my finger and it'll be

looked at tomorrow. I'm still excited about my new router tools and

can't wait to get back to using them again.





     John V.

One time I was using a wide vertical belt-sander at work to shape an airfoil, and let my 2nd & 3rd fingertips come in contact with the vertical face of the belt. Only a fraction of a second, and my fingertips were ground off, with about a 1/4" dia. flat spot on each. They grew back pretty fast. So take heart, John, yours will grow back, too. Sure hurt like h-e-doublehockeysticks, though!

Dave Hughes

-- "johnvboomerangertiltheend" <whishhbone@...> wrote:

Perhaps this might help.



Not news: Man grows finger. News: It had been sliced off and

mysteriously grew back. Fark: In four weeks



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7354458.stm

John



Scary time for sure.



I am no more afraid of my router than my tablesaw. Well the tablesaw scares the

crap out of me. I have seen a couple router "catches" that make me jump. No

injuries, just chewed up wood.



I also remember cutting at the tablesaw and getting a piece of wood to kick

back. That piece went flying and I said a few choice words, but didn't get

seriously hurt. I did have a boy from the neighborhood helping me and when I

turned around to check if he was ok, his eyes were as big as saucers. I asked

what was wrong and he said he never heard me say things like that before and he

was shocked. I don't think he ever heard me say them again.



I get more cuts or whatever at the belt sander. I usually get a finger or

knuckle in the way and lose some skin.



Dave

     Hey Guys,



       Thanks for your supportive and funny replies haha! You cheered

me up :) I feel assured and more informed.





     Cheers!



        John V.





--- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, Dave Hendricks <bvdrangs@...>

wrote:

>

> John

>

> Scary time for sure.

>

> I am no more afraid of my router than my tablesaw. Well the tablesaw

scares the crap out of me. I have seen a couple router "catches" that

make me jump. No injuries, just chewed up wood.

>

> I also remember cutting at the tablesaw and getting a piece of wood

to kick back. That piece went flying and I said a few choice words,

but didn't get seriously hurt. I did have a boy from the neighborhood

helping me and when I turned around to check if he was ok, his eyes

were as big as saucers. I asked what was wrong and he said he never

heard me say things like that before and he was shocked. I don't think

he ever heard me say them again.

>

> I get more cuts or whatever at the belt sander. I usually get a

finger or knuckle in the way and lose some skin.

>

> Dave

>

Hey John !  You had what I  usually call a lucky close call or a

"cheap reminder" of what  could had happen. I made some sort of

protection for my router ( it scares the heck out of me!) and  had som

incident  like Dave too: drum sander catches my fingers on the regular

bases. I said "choice  words"  as Dave  and probably worst since I

have a filthy  mouth and an creative mind:

Lucky you , these incidents keep you on your toes and that's good.

Keep making boomerangs!



ALBERTO



I have  my new  router axle back , it's almost finished: last

"misshap" the axle bent and I almost had to change my underwear.







--- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "johnvboomerangertiltheend"

<whishhbone@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>     Hey Guys,

>

>       Thanks for your supportive and funny replies haha! You cheered

> me up :) I feel assured and more informed.

>

>

>     Cheers!

>

>        John V.

>

>

> --- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, Dave Hendricks <bvdrangs@>

> wrote:

> >

> > John

> >

> > Scary time for sure.

> >

> > I am no more afraid of my router than my tablesaw. Well the tablesaw

> scares the crap out of me. I have seen a couple router "catches" that

> make me jump. No injuries, just chewed up wood.

> >

> > I also remember cutting at the tablesaw and getting a piece of wood

> to kick back. That piece went flying and I said a few choice words,

> but didn't get seriously hurt. I did have a boy from the neighborhood

> helping me and when I turned around to check if he was ok, his eyes

> were as big as saucers. I asked what was wrong and he said he never

> heard me say things like that before and he was shocked. I don't think

> he ever heard me say them again.

> >

> > I get more cuts or whatever at the belt sander. I usually get a

> finger or knuckle in the way and lose some skin.

> >

> > Dave

> >

>

      HaHa Alberto!



        Thanks for the good advice :) I totally agree. I 'll keep

making them and be more conscious of safety issues. I don't want to

pay the price of good health for the joy of making rangs.



       Bart, good point on the work gloves. I actually do use work

gloves when operating the 17,000rpm router and 10,000rpm disc grinder

(for sanding) and they've always protected me. I also use latex gloves

for the band saw and drum sander. Funny thing is, I took the leather

palm work gloves off that day because the latex gloves were gripping

the wood better. I wish I had thought to put the work gloves back on.

The only problem with work gloves is that you can't always feel the

piece you're carving, and at times that's very important.





     Cheers!



        John V.





--- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "Alberto" <boomerman@...> wrote:

>

> Hey John !  You had what I  usually call a lucky close call or a

> "cheap reminder" of what  could had happen. I made some sort of

> protection for my router ( it scares the heck out of me!) and  had som

> incident  like Dave too: drum sander catches my fingers on the regular

> bases. I said "choice  words"  as Dave  and probably worst since I

> have a filthy  mouth and an creative mind:

> Lucky you , these incidents keep you on your toes and that's good.

> Keep making boomerangs!

>

> ALBERTO

>

> I have  my new  router axle back , it's almost finished: last

> "misshap" the axle bent and I almost had to change my underwear.

>

>

>

> --- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "johnvboomerangertiltheend"

> <whishhbone@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >     Hey Guys,

> >

> >       Thanks for your supportive and funny replies haha! You cheered

> > me up :) I feel assured and more informed.

> >

> >

> >     Cheers!

> >

> >        John V.

> >

> >

> > --- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, Dave Hendricks <bvdrangs@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > John

> > >

> > > Scary time for sure.

> > >

> > > I am no more afraid of my router than my tablesaw. Well the tablesaw

> > scares the crap out of me. I have seen a couple router "catches" that

> > make me jump. No injuries, just chewed up wood.

> > >

> > > I also remember cutting at the tablesaw and getting a piece of wood

> > to kick back. That piece went flying and I said a few choice words,

> > but didn't get seriously hurt. I did have a boy from the neighborhood

> > helping me and when I turned around to check if he was ok, his eyes

> > were as big as saucers. I asked what was wrong and he said he never

> > heard me say things like that before and he was shocked. I don't think

> > he ever heard me say them again.

> > >

> > > I get more cuts or whatever at the belt sander. I usually get a

> > finger or knuckle in the way and lose some skin.

> > >

> > > Dave

> > >

> >

>

Dave Hendricks wrote:

> Scary time for sure.

>

> I am no more afraid of my router than my tablesaw.



I'm pretty sure your tablesaw isn't afraid of anything.



> I get more cuts or whatever at the belt sander. I usually get a finger or

knuckle in the way and lose some skin.

>



Have you considered work gloves? If not, I'm curious as to why not. I

wear a filter mask, eye protection, AND work gloves.



Bart

Hello!



Hope the finger heals quickly, Dave. I think it's a

good thing that you've posted that- It's a reminder to

us all that tools can be v. v. dangerous! Glad you got

away with that one without too much damage.



Thanks for that link, also. I'm madly looking around

for a router bit to cut trailing edges. Not easy to

find. Good to hear your getting more use out of the

router, I imagine it will save you a lot of time and

yield consistent sticks.



Glenn.



--- johnvboomerangertiltheend <whishhbone@...>

wrote:



>

>

>    Hi Guys,

>

>

>       I've been upgrading my shop a little, trying

> to fine tune my

> production. I bought another trim router and also

> some bits from this

> place http://tinyurl.com/394sy3 Incredible variety

> and prices compared

> to what I've seen elsewhere. Really good service

> too. Yesterday I was

> using some new bits and one older cove bit that I

> did a lousy job of

> modifying for the trailing edge cut. It works but

> leaves a rougher

> edge that I have to even out with the sander. I was

> not being careful

> enough and received a shredded fingertip. DAMN!! I'm

> okay but needed a

> trip to the emergency room for treatment. Doc says

> it'll grow back and

> I feel kind of lucky but also very stupid.

>

>     I've always had an instinctive fear of routers

> and I used to avoid

> them. But as I've cautiously used them and seen

> others use them I've

> become increasingly more comfortable with them. Too

> comfortable

> apparently. The more I use them I see how much time

> they save and how

> evenly they can shape a boom. So I'd have to say I

> advocate their use.

> I just want to remind everyone to enjoy them as I do

> but respect the

> router and keep your fingers.

>

>     I won't be doing any left handed catches for a

> while but I'll be

> back in the shop as soon as I can. They wrapped my

> finger and it'll be

> looked at tomorrow. I'm still excited about my new

> router tools and

> can't wait to get back to using them again.

>

>

>     John V.

>

>







      

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>Have you considered work gloves? If not, I'm curious as to >why not. I

>wear a filter mask, eye protection, AND work gloves.



Note: this is not a recommendation and not a result of any scientific testing.

The following is my personal preference and can be ignored if needed. You asked,

I answered.



I do not wear traditional work gloves in my shop. I don't think I have ever

found a pair that fit well enough to allow me to work on boomerangs without them

getting in the way and actually becoming a hazzard instead of protection. I

think they have their place, but I would not use them in the shop sanding,

cutting or with the router. It's not that I don't own work gloves. I have 5 or 6

pairs including some nice leather ones. I use them for other work, just not in

the shop.





I used to wear latex gloves, mostly to protect my hands from getting dry and

chapped from the sawdust. About two years ago my dntist gave me a pair of

nitrile ones (the blue ones?) and I really like them. I have been using them

since.



Cheers

Dave Hendricks

     Hi Ricardo!



        Nice to hear from you :) Good advice. You're so right. I was

trying to finish a set of booms too fast and I should have stopped for

a break. Sorry to hear about your back. Hope you recover quickly.

Maybe I'll see you at the WBC.



      Cheers!



         John V.





--- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, Ricardo Marx <listas@...> wrote:

>

> Hi friends,

>

> I back my yahoogrups confiuration to individual e-mail to read better

> and here I am! ;)

>

> For me is very dificult work with gloves, I lost the sensibility of my

> hands and (IMHO) is much more "possible" lose some fingers with it

> that withought. I prefer work slowly and safe, take my time to rest

> (if I made 100 boomerangs with the router, I stop 20 or 30 minutes,

> drink cofe, stretch my back, fingers, hands, neck and arms). The

> secret is use guides ever and never trust in the lucky, do everything

> with the safe equipment (one or 1000 boomerangs), because the problems

> happen when we think "it's just one boomerang, very fast"...

>

> Sorry for my english, I wake up right now, wash my clothes and get a

> cold day of 5C in a warm tropical country :P... I hate cold days, hate

> wake up 6am ;)

>

> I'm going this year to the Smith Park (Chet's tournment), in Ohio and

> after it to the WBC in Seattle! Going to the GYM every day, doing

> exercises, boxing and loose 4 kilos in one week!!! Now I have just 3

> months to training my throws and fix my back (hernia)... it's a hard

> fight!

>

> Miss all friends and hope that I can see all there!

>

> PS: My girlfriend will give me some english lessons too, so I will be

> "less indian speach" in 3 months ;)

>

> MRH,

>

> Ricardo Marx - BUME.com.br

> www.BUME.com.br     -     marx@...

> Tel:   -  Fax:

> Cel:   -  Nextel ID: 55*1*12772

> Tel Skype:   -  USA:

> Skype (apenas para chamada de voz): bume.com.br

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Em 03/05/2008, ąs 07:14, Dave Hendricks escreveu:

>

> >

> > >Have you considered work gloves? If not, I'm curious as to >why

> > not. I

> > >wear a filter mask, eye protection, AND work gloves.

> >

> > Note: this is not a recommendation and not a result of any

> > scientific testing. The following is my personal preference and can

> > be ignored if needed. You asked, I answered.

> >

> > I do not wear traditional work gloves in my shop. I don't think I

> > have ever found a pair that fit well enough to allow me to work on

> > boomerangs without them getting in the way and actually becoming a

> > hazzard instead of protection. I think they have their place, but I

> > would not use them in the shop sanding, cutting or with the router.

> > It's not that I don't own work gloves. I have 5 or 6 pairs including

> > some nice leather ones. I use them for other work, just not in the

> > shop.

> >

> > I used to wear latex gloves, mostly to protect my hands from getting

> > dry and chapped from the sawdust. About two years ago my dntist gave

> > me a pair of nitrile ones (the blue ones?) and I really like them. I

> > have been using them since.

> >

> > Cheers

> > Dave Hendricks

> >

> >

> >

>

Holy crap John! Consider yourself lucky you were only using

a "little" router bit. I want to see pics of the carnage. :-) At my

cabinet shop we've got some hella big bits for doing square joints,

there about 1 1/2" high and 2 1/2" diameter. When we first got them

one of my co-workers sent a 6 1/2 x 18 x 3/4 chuck of walnut flying,

stopped when it hit the wall 15' away...

It had almost as much velocity as the big azz table saw we have, your

workpiece will go flying way before you make that motor lock up. One

of my co-workers broke his wrist on that thing. New guy fresh out of

carprentry school, he did not know you should try not to look at the

blade the whole time, always at the fence so you can make sure the

piece stays flat against the fence. Nothing bad can happen unless

that board twists or you decide to cut your thumb off (pushsticks

people!).



Anyway, tools 101, respect your tools yo! I could go on and on, the

owner of a door store across the street from me is missing 3 fingers,

those were some gross, but cool, pictures.



Hope your diget grows back ok John, don't get scared of the tool

because of this! My boss is missing one fingertip from an encounter

with a sewer cover. I also don't know about work gloves, they are a

great idea, depending on the machine your're using. Some machines the

gloves will get sucked in and not let your hand out, resulting in

more damage than if you were not wearing any. A pedistal grinder is a

great example. when I was in metal-working school three differant

kids got their hands messed up and they were all wearing gloves,

could not pull their hands out. For the most part I do not wear

gloves, yes I have nicked my knuckles on my belt sander a few times,

but never anything else.

There is a scar on my leg from where a 9in grinder got away from me,

that was exciting. I have a 6" long scar on the same leg from a

falling rock, not tool related but still, that was REALLY exciting.

Still have all my digets though.



Stay Rad and safe everybody!

Richard Bower



--- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "johnvboomerangertiltheend"

<whishhbone@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>    Hi Guys,

>

>

>       I've been upgrading my shop a little, trying to fine tune my

> production. I bought another trim router and also some bits from

this

> place http://tinyurl.com/394sy3 Incredible variety and prices

compared

> to what I've seen elsewhere. Really good service too. Yesterday I

was

> using some new bits and one older cove bit that I did a lousy job of

> modifying for the trailing edge cut. It works but leaves a rougher

> edge that I have to even out with the sander. I was not being

careful

> enough and received a shredded fingertip. DAMN!! I'm okay but

needed a

> trip to the emergency room for treatment. Doc says it'll grow back

and

> I feel kind of lucky but also very stupid.

>

>     I've always had an instinctive fear of routers and I used to

avoid

> them. But as I've cautiously used them and seen others use them I've

> become increasingly more comfortable with them. Too comfortable

> apparently. The more I use them I see how much time they save and

how

> evenly they can shape a boom. So I'd have to say I advocate their

use.

> I just want to remind everyone to enjoy them as I do but respect the

> router and keep your fingers.

>

>     I won't be doing any left handed catches for a while but I'll be

> back in the shop as soon as I can. They wrapped my finger and it'll

be

> looked at tomorrow. I'm still excited about my new router tools and

> can't wait to get back to using them again.

>

>

>     John V.

>

     Hey Rich and Chris!



        Thanks for the advice, stories and good wishes :) I'm seeing

the doctor this morning and will find out how my finger will be

dressed. I'll post a pic when I'm able to look at it. Doc snipped off

the shredded part and I didn't want to see it. Then they put a "gel

foam" on it which is like artificial skin. It stayed numb until

yesterday afternoon then it was like a throbbing pain without the

throbbing. I'm taking light Motrin and a swig of beer now and then and

feeling okay, all things considered.



       I was back in the shop this morning with a new cove bit. Weird

thing happened. While running, a dark substance splattered off the bit

and I couldn't tell where it came from. I shut off the router and

found that the pilot bearing opened up. That freaked me out a little.

So I switched to a smaller cove bit. Much less dramatic at start up.

It removes enough wood for me to run it across the drum once or twice

and flatten it out. End result looks good.



      Yeah, gloves are a questionable issue. I feel better with them

on. It's true that they're bulky and can get caught up so you have to

think about the tool and the possibility. I don't see them getting

caught on the drum or disc grinder that I use (picture in my folder).

They protect me from scrapes. The way I use them I think they're safer

overall. For the flush trim and leading edge router cut I think

they're too bulky but for the trailing edge I think they're safer. The

biggest danger is having the wood slip from lack of grip. I feel more

secure with them on. Maybe one off and one on. I think it's a personal

choice one has to make depending on the circumstances. For larger

scale tools I might choose otherwise.





     Cheers!



        John V.





--- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Bower" <RDude15@...>

wrote:

>

> Holy crap John! Consider yourself lucky you were only using

> a "little" router bit. I want to see pics of the carnage. :-) At my

> cabinet shop we've got some hella big bits for doing square joints,

> there about 1 1/2" high and 2 1/2" diameter. When we first got them

> one of my co-workers sent a 6 1/2 x 18 x 3/4 chuck of walnut flying,

> stopped when it hit the wall 15' away...

> It had almost as much velocity as the big azz table saw we have, your

> workpiece will go flying way before you make that motor lock up. One

> of my co-workers broke his wrist on that thing. New guy fresh out of

> carprentry school, he did not know you should try not to look at the

> blade the whole time, always at the fence so you can make sure the

> piece stays flat against the fence. Nothing bad can happen unless

> that board twists or you decide to cut your thumb off (pushsticks

> people!).

>

> Anyway, tools 101, respect your tools yo! I could go on and on, the

> owner of a door store across the street from me is missing 3 fingers,

> those were some gross, but cool, pictures.

>

> Hope your diget grows back ok John, don't get scared of the tool

> because of this! My boss is missing one fingertip from an encounter

> with a sewer cover. I also don't know about work gloves, they are a

> great idea, depending on the machine your're using. Some machines the

> gloves will get sucked in and not let your hand out, resulting in

> more damage than if you were not wearing any. A pedistal grinder is a

> great example. when I was in metal-working school three differant

> kids got their hands messed up and they were all wearing gloves,

> could not pull their hands out. For the most part I do not wear

> gloves, yes I have nicked my knuckles on my belt sander a few times,

> but never anything else.

> There is a scar on my leg from where a 9in grinder got away from me,

> that was exciting. I have a 6" long scar on the same leg from a

> falling rock, not tool related but still, that was REALLY exciting.

> Still have all my digets though.

>

> Stay Rad and safe everybody!

> Richard Bower

>

> --- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "johnvboomerangertiltheend"

> <whishhbone@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >    Hi Guys,

> >

> >

> >       I've been upgrading my shop a little, trying to fine tune my

> > production. I bought another trim router and also some bits from

> this

> > place http://tinyurl.com/394sy3 Incredible variety and prices

> compared

> > to what I've seen elsewhere. Really good service too. Yesterday I

> was

> > using some new bits and one older cove bit that I did a lousy job of

> > modifying for the trailing edge cut. It works but leaves a rougher

> > edge that I have to even out with the sander. I was not being

> careful

> > enough and received a shredded fingertip. DAMN!! I'm okay but

> needed a

> > trip to the emergency room for treatment. Doc says it'll grow back

> and

> > I feel kind of lucky but also very stupid.

> >

> >     I've always had an instinctive fear of routers and I used to

> avoid

> > them. But as I've cautiously used them and seen others use them I've

> > become increasingly more comfortable with them. Too comfortable

> > apparently. The more I use them I see how much time they save and

> how

> > evenly they can shape a boom. So I'd have to say I advocate their

> use.

> > I just want to remind everyone to enjoy them as I do but respect the

> > router and keep your fingers.

> >

> >     I won't be doing any left handed catches for a while but I'll be

> > back in the shop as soon as I can. They wrapped my finger and it'll

> be

> > looked at tomorrow. I'm still excited about my new router tools and

> > can't wait to get back to using them again.

> >

> >

> >     John V.

> >

>

I had my hand held belt sander go out last week so I went out and

bought one of the Guinevere motors from King Arthur's Tools.  Nice

motor with a chuck on each end.  Runs so quiet you can hardly tell it

is on.  I do still do my main rough carving with a disk which is on

another motor but it also could be put on the Guinevere.  I am now

using the Guinevere with a soft drum sander for smoothing the rangs

more.



http://hooftrimmingtools.net/mcart/index.cgi?code=3&cat=14

I you are looking for a motor to put a sanding drum on, I can

recommend this tool.  It is very nice and so quiet.  I do plan to get

the flexible shaft for the tool at some time.



Steven Graham

     Hey Guys!





          I got a chance to take some shots of my routered finger.

http://tinyurl.com/5wb7rm  It's not that bad. It looks like it's

starting to grow out already. Still kinda flat though. The brown stuff

is called betadine (sp?) and it dries hard like lacquer. They said the

nail would fall off but it looks pretty healthy to me.



     If you have an accident like this try to see someone who knows

about these injuries. The (low cost) office down the street doesn't

know what to do other than check for infection. These things don't

happen too often percentage wise. They've made great advancements in

the last five years as the article Daniel posted shows, but a lot of

clinics just don't know about it.



     Sooo... I put away the modified cove bit and got one of these

http://tinyurl.com/6o8xek #8614 (profile C). $18! It's a half inch

shank so I had to build a table for my brand new 1.75hp router that

I've had for over a year and never used. I estimate that it's about an

18degree cut. I like it but haven't had a chance to test for flight

performance yet. Still it's the best stock bit I've been able to find.



     A big THANK YOU!! :) to all my friends here who gave me some

excellent coaching and shared info on their sites and videos on using

routers for booms. I'm getting there. Eventually I'll have three

routers operating for each of the three bits I use. I also got a speed

control which prevents a lot of router anxiety when starting the thing

up haha!





     Cheers!



        John V.





--- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Bower" <RDude15@...>

wrote:

>

> Holy crap John! Consider yourself lucky you were only using

> a "little" router bit. I want to see pics of the carnage. :-) At my

[...]

> Stay Rad and safe everybody!

> Richard Bower

>

> --- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "johnvboomerangertiltheend"

> <whishhbone@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >    Hi Guys,

> >

> >

> >       I've been upgrading my shop a little, trying to fine tune my

> > production. I bought another trim router and also some bits from

> this

> > place http://tinyurl.com/394sy3 Incredible variety and prices

> compared

> > to what I've seen elsewhere. Really good service too. Yesterday I

> was

> > using some new bits and one older cove bit that I did a lousy job of

> > modifying for the trailing edge cut. It works but leaves a rougher

> > edge that I have to even out with the sander. I was not being

> careful

> > enough and received a shredded fingertip. DAMN!! I'm okay but

> needed a

> > trip to the emergency room for treatment. Doc says it'll grow back

> and

> > I feel kind of lucky but also very stupid.

> >

> >     I've always had an instinctive fear of routers and I used to

> avoid

> > them. But as I've cautiously used them and seen others use them I've

> > become increasingly more comfortable with them. Too comfortable

> > apparently. The more I use them I see how much time they save and

> how

> > evenly they can shape a boom. So I'd have to say I advocate their

> use.

> > I just want to remind everyone to enjoy them as I do but respect the

> > router and keep your fingers.

> >

> >     I won't be doing any left handed catches for a while but I'll be

> > back in the shop as soon as I can. They wrapped my finger and it'll

> be

> > looked at tomorrow. I'm still excited about my new router tools and

> > can't wait to get back to using them again.

> >

> >

> >     John V.

> >

>

Nice one, Johnno!



As you say, it's looking quite healthy. You'll be right :)



You've gotta post the results from your new bit. I've been looking around for a

bit to cut T.E's & the most appropriate bit I can find looks much the same as

the one you have just purchased, so I'm very interested to hear how it goes.



Take care of that digit!!



Glenn.



--- On Wed, 5/14/08, johnvboomerangertiltheend <whishhbone@...> wrote:



> From: johnvboomerangertiltheend <whishhbone@...>

> Subject: [Boomerang_Talk] Re: router incident...

> To: Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 5:38 AM

> Hey Guys!

>

>

>          I got a chance to take some shots of my routered

> finger.

> http://tinyurl.com/5wb7rm  It's not that bad. It looks

> like it's

> starting to grow out already. Still kinda flat though. The

> brown stuff

> is called betadine (sp?) and it dries hard like lacquer.

> They said the

> nail would fall off but it looks pretty healthy to me.

>

>     If you have an accident like this try to see someone

> who knows

> about these injuries. The (low cost) office down the street

> doesn't

> know what to do other than check for infection. These

> things don't

> happen too often percentage wise. They've made great

> advancements in

> the last five years as the article Daniel posted shows, but

> a lot of

> clinics just don't know about it.

>

>     Sooo... I put away the modified cove bit and got one of

> these

> http://tinyurl.com/6o8xek #8614 (profile C). $18! It's

> a half inch

> shank so I had to build a table for my brand new 1.75hp

> router that

> I've had for over a year and never used. I estimate

> that it's about an

> 18degree cut. I like it but haven't had a chance to

> test for flight

> performance yet. Still it's the best stock bit I've

> been able to find.

>

>     A big THANK YOU!! :) to all my friends here who gave me

> some

> excellent coaching and shared info on their sites and

> videos on using

> routers for booms. I'm getting there. Eventually

> I'll have three

> routers operating for each of the three bits I use. I also

> got a speed

> control which prevents a lot of router anxiety when

> starting the thing

> up haha!

>

>

>     Cheers!

>

>        John V.

>

>

> --- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "Richard

> Bower" <RDude15@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Holy crap John! Consider yourself lucky you were only

> using

> > a "little" router bit. I want to see pics of

> the carnage. :-) At my

> [...]

> > Stay Rad and safe everybody!

> > Richard Bower

> >

> > --- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com,

> "johnvboomerangertiltheend"

> > <whishhbone@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >    Hi Guys,

> > >

> > >

> > >       I've been upgrading my shop a little,

> trying to fine tune my

> > > production. I bought another trim router and also

> some bits from

> > this

> > > place http://tinyurl.com/394sy3 Incredible

> variety and prices

> > compared

> > > to what I've seen elsewhere. Really good

> service too. Yesterday I

> > was

> > > using some new bits and one older cove bit that I

> did a lousy job of

> > > modifying for the trailing edge cut. It works but

> leaves a rougher

> > > edge that I have to even out with the sander. I

> was not being

> > careful

> > > enough and received a shredded fingertip. DAMN!!

> I'm okay but

> > needed a

> > > trip to the emergency room for treatment. Doc

> says it'll grow back

> > and

> > > I feel kind of lucky but also very stupid.

> > >

> > >     I've always had an instinctive fear of

> routers and I used to

> > avoid

> > > them. But as I've cautiously used them and

> seen others use them I've

> > > become increasingly more comfortable with them.

> Too comfortable

> > > apparently. The more I use them I see how much

> time they save and

> > how

> > > evenly they can shape a boom. So I'd have to

> say I advocate their

> > use.

> > > I just want to remind everyone to enjoy them as I

> do but respect the

> > > router and keep your fingers.

> > >

> > >     I won't be doing any left handed catches

> for a while but I'll be

> > > back in the shop as soon as I can. They wrapped

> my finger and it'll

> > be

> > > looked at tomorrow. I'm still excited about

> my new router tools and

> > > can't wait to get back to using them again.

> > >

> > >

> > >     John V.

> > >

> >

     Thanks Glenn!



        I've tested some booms I made using that bit and they work

nicely. Their range was a little shorter than usual but they return

just fine. I think with some table adjustment that bit can be great.





     Cheers!



        John V.





--- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, Glenn <gac3825@...> wrote:

>

> Nice one, Johnno!

>

> As you say, it's looking quite healthy. You'll be right :)

>

> You've gotta post the results from your new bit. I've been looking

around for a bit to cut T.E's & the most appropriate bit I can find

looks much the same as the one you have just purchased, so I'm very

interested to hear how it goes.

>

> Take care of that digit!!

>

> Glenn.

>

> --- On Wed, 5/14/08, johnvboomerangertiltheend <whishhbone@...> wrote:

>

> > From: johnvboomerangertiltheend <whishhbone@...>

> > Subject: [Boomerang_Talk] Re: router incident...

> > To: Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com

> > Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 5:38 AM

> > Hey Guys!

> >

> >

> >          I got a chance to take some shots of my routered

> > finger.

> > http://tinyurl.com/5wb7rm  It's not that bad. It looks

> > like it's

> > starting to grow out already. Still kinda flat though. The

> > brown stuff

> > is called betadine (sp?) and it dries hard like lacquer.

> > They said the

> > nail would fall off but it looks pretty healthy to me.

> >

> >     If you have an accident like this try to see someone

> > who knows

> > about these injuries. The (low cost) office down the street

> > doesn't

> > know what to do other than check for infection. These

> > things don't

> > happen too often percentage wise. They've made great

> > advancements in

> > the last five years as the article Daniel posted shows, but

> > a lot of

> > clinics just don't know about it.

> >

> >     Sooo... I put away the modified cove bit and got one of

> > these

> > http://tinyurl.com/6o8xek #8614 (profile C). $18! It's

> > a half inch

> > shank so I had to build a table for my brand new 1.75hp

> > router that

> > I've had for over a year and never used. I estimate

> > that it's about an

> > 18degree cut. I like it but haven't had a chance to

> > test for flight

> > performance yet. Still it's the best stock bit I've

> > been able to find.

> >

> >     A big THANK YOU!! :) to all my friends here who gave me

> > some

> > excellent coaching and shared info on their sites and

> > videos on using

> > routers for booms. I'm getting there. Eventually

> > I'll have three

> > routers operating for each of the three bits I use. I also

> > got a speed

> > control which prevents a lot of router anxiety when

> > starting the thing

> > up haha!

> >

> >

> >     Cheers!

> >

> >        John V.

> >

> >

> > --- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "Richard

> > Bower" <RDude15@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Holy crap John! Consider yourself lucky you were only

> > using

> > > a "little" router bit. I want to see pics of

> > the carnage. :-) At my

> > [...]

> > > Stay Rad and safe everybody!

> > > Richard Bower

> > >

> > > --- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com,

> > "johnvboomerangertiltheend"

> > > <whishhbone@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >    Hi Guys,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >       I've been upgrading my shop a little,

> > trying to fine tune my

> > > > production. I bought another trim router and also

> > some bits from

> > > this

> > > > place http://tinyurl.com/394sy3 Incredible

> > variety and prices

> > > compared

> > > > to what I've seen elsewhere. Really good

> > service too. Yesterday I

> > > was

> > > > using some new bits and one older cove bit that I

> > did a lousy job of

> > > > modifying for the trailing edge cut. It works but

> > leaves a rougher

> > > > edge that I have to even out with the sander. I

> > was not being

> > > careful

> > > > enough and received a shredded fingertip. DAMN!!

> > I'm okay but

> > > needed a

> > > > trip to the emergency room for treatment. Doc

> > says it'll grow back

> > > and

> > > > I feel kind of lucky but also very stupid.

> > > >

> > > >     I've always had an instinctive fear of

> > routers and I used to

> > > avoid

> > > > them. But as I've cautiously used them and

> > seen others use them I've

> > > > become increasingly more comfortable with them.

> > Too comfortable

> > > > apparently. The more I use them I see how much

> > time they save and

> > > how

> > > > evenly they can shape a boom. So I'd have to

> > say I advocate their

> > > use.

> > > > I just want to remind everyone to enjoy them as I

> > do but respect the

> > > > router and keep your fingers.

> > > >

> > > >     I won't be doing any left handed catches

> > for a while but I'll be

> > > > back in the shop as soon as I can. They wrapped

> > my finger and it'll

> > > be

> > > > looked at tomorrow. I'm still excited about

> > my new router tools and

> > > > can't wait to get back to using them again.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >     John V.

> > > >

> > >

>

Dear John, and talkers,



   Sorry to hear about, and see, your recent injury. These type

injuries do tend to heal with a slightly flattened tip, depending upon

exactly how much "meat" was cut.



   Certain wood working tools are dangerous because of their innocent

looking nature, or because the cutting edge is often hidden. In table

saws and routers, this is the case. Nothing hides a cutting edge

better than a router, and that includes routers in tables. In fact,

they may be worse yet, because the cutting edge is now face up. The

table saw is not far behind.



   Accidents with bandsaws are curiously low. Their cutting edge is far

more obvious, and the apparent danger is constantly seen. Yet, when

they go to cut up animal carcasses, what do they use? A bandsaw. Its

potential for misuse or accident is huge, but its visible cutting edge

is a continual reminder of what not to do.



   One note about the router speed control - these work well on most

routers. Do not attempt to use them on the larger routers with the

"soft start" feature (Porter Cable's large router models, for

example), because this will mess up the internal soft start feature. I

was told that these work by turning the machine on and off at a very

rapid rate, and the potentiometer controls the rate of on and off.



   Best wishes,



   Fred M.





--- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "johnvboomerangertiltheend"

<whishhbone@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>     Hey Guys!

>

>

>          I got a chance to take some shots of my routered finger.

> http://tinyurl.com/5wb7rm  It's not that bad. It looks like it's

> starting to grow out already. Still kinda flat though. The brown stuff

> is called betadine (sp?) and it dries hard like lacquer. They said the

> nail would fall off but it looks pretty healthy to me.

>

>     If you have an accident like this try to see someone who knows

> about these injuries. The (low cost) office down the street doesn't

> know what to do other than check for infection. These things don't

> happen too often percentage wise. They've made great advancements in

> the last five years as the article Daniel posted shows, but a lot of

> clinics just don't know about it.

>

>     Sooo... I put away the modified cove bit and got one of these

> http://tinyurl.com/6o8xek #8614 (profile C). $18! It's a half inch

> shank so I had to build a table for my brand new 1.75hp router that

> I've had for over a year and never used. I estimate that it's about an

> 18degree cut. I like it but haven't had a chance to test for flight

> performance yet. Still it's the best stock bit I've been able to find.

>

>     A big THANK YOU!! :) to all my friends here who gave me some

> excellent coaching and shared info on their sites and videos on using

> routers for booms. I'm getting there. Eventually I'll have three

> routers operating for each of the three bits I use. I also got a speed

> control which prevents a lot of router anxiety when starting the thing

> up haha!

>

>

>     Cheers!

>

>        John V.

>

   Thanks Dr. Fred!



     I was hoping you'd have something to say about this. Nice to hear

from you.





     Cheers!



        John V.





--- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "fmalmb" <fmalmb@...> wrote:

>

> Dear John, and talkers,

>

>   Sorry to hear about, and see, your recent injury. These type

> injuries do tend to heal with a slightly flattened tip, depending upon

> exactly how much "meat" was cut.

>

>   Certain wood working tools are dangerous because of their innocent

> looking nature, or because the cutting edge is often hidden. In table

> saws and routers, this is the case. Nothing hides a cutting edge

> better than a router, and that includes routers in tables. In fact,

> they may be worse yet, because the cutting edge is now face up. The

> table saw is not far behind.

>

>   Accidents with bandsaws are curiously low. Their cutting edge is far

> more obvious, and the apparent danger is constantly seen. Yet, when

> they go to cut up animal carcasses, what do they use? A bandsaw. Its

> potential for misuse or accident is huge, but its visible cutting edge

> is a continual reminder of what not to do.

>

>   One note about the router speed control - these work well on most

> routers. Do not attempt to use them on the larger routers with the

> "soft start" feature (Porter Cable's large router models, for

> example), because this will mess up the internal soft start feature. I

> was told that these work by turning the machine on and off at a very

> rapid rate, and the potentiometer controls the rate of on and off.

>

>   Best wishes,

>

>   Fred M.

>

>

> --- In Boomerang_Talk@yahoogroups.com, "johnvboomerangertiltheend"

> <whishhbone@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >     Hey Guys!

> >

> >

> >          I got a chance to take some shots of my routered finger.

> > http://tinyurl.com/5wb7rm  It's not that bad. It looks like it's

> > starting to grow out already. Still kinda flat though. The brown stuff

> > is called betadine (sp?) and it dries hard like lacquer. They said the

> > nail would fall off but it looks pretty healthy to me.

> >

> >     If you have an accident like this try to see someone who knows

> > about these injuries. The (low cost) office down the street doesn't

> > know what to do other than check for infection. These things don't

> > happen too often percentage wise. They've made great advancements in

> > the last five years as the article Daniel posted shows, but a lot of

> > clinics just don't know about it.

> >

> >     Sooo... I put away the modified cove bit and got one of these

> > http://tinyurl.com/6o8xek #8614 (profile C). $18! It's a half inch

> > shank so I had to build a table for my brand new 1.75hp router that

> > I've had for over a year and never used. I estimate that it's about an

> > 18degree cut. I like it but haven't had a chance to test for flight

> > performance yet. Still it's the best stock bit I've been able to find.

> >

> >     A big THANK YOU!! :) to all my friends here who gave me some

> > excellent coaching and shared info on their sites and videos on using

> > routers for booms. I'm getting there. Eventually I'll have three

> > routers operating for each of the three bits I use. I also got a speed

> > control which prevents a lot of router anxiety when starting the thing

> > up haha!

> >

> >

> >     Cheers!

> >

> >        John V.

> >

>