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From: Bill Gould

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Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 11:26 AM

Subject: [sporthinkery] Re: Pierre a Dodger?

Thanks Dave for the post. Still wondering what Dodger fans think of the Pierre signing



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The following is a list of the free agents that have signed so far and for how
many years and
their new or same team.

Moises Alou - New York Mets - 1 Year 8.5 Million
Danys Baez - Baltimore Orioles - 3 Years 19 Million
Gary Bennett - St. Louis Cardinals - 1 Year 900,000.00
Henry Blanco - Chicago Cubs - 2 Years 5.25 Million
Sean Casey - Detroit Tigers - 1 Year 4 Million
Frank Catalanotto - Texas Rangers - 3 Years 13 Million
Alex Cora - Boston Red Sox - 2 Years 4 Million
Craig Counsell - Milwaukee Brewers - 2 Years 6 Million
Mark DeRosa - Chicago Cubs - 3 Years 13 Million
Damion Easley - New York Mets - 1 Year 850,000.00
Jim Edmonds - St. Louis Cardinals - 2 Years 19 Million
Nomar Garciaparra - Los Angeles Dodgers - 2 Years 18.5 Million
Alex Gonzalez - Cincinnati Reds - 3 Years 14 Milion
Wes Helms - Philadelphia Phillies - 2 Years 5.45 Million
Orlando Hernandez - New York Mets - 2 Years 12 Million
Adam Kennedy - St. Louis Cardinals - 3 Years 10 Million
Carlos Lee - Houston Astros - 6 Years 100 Million
Ramon Martinez - Los Angeles Dodgers - 1 Year 850,000.00
Kazuo Matsui - Colorado Rockies - 1 Year 1.5 Million
Gary Matthews, Jr. - Anaheim Angels - 5 Years 50 Million
Wade Miller - Chicago Cubs - 1 Year 1.5 Million
Mike Mussina - New York Yankees - 2 Years 23 Million
Juan Pierre - Los Angeles Dodgers - 5 Years 44 Million
Aramis Ramirez - Chicago Cubs - 5 Years 75 Million
Alfonso Soriano - Chicago Cubs - 8 Years 136 Million
Justin Speier - Anaheim Angels - 4 Years 18 Million
Scott Spiezio - St. Louis Cardinals - 2 Years 4.5 Million
Mike Stanton - Cincinnati Reds - 2 Years 5.5 Million
Frank Thomas - Toronto Blue Jays - 2 Years 18.12 Million
Jose Valentin - New York Mets - 1 Year 3.8 Million
Jamie Walker - Baltimore Orioles - 3 Years 12 Million
Kip Wells - St. Louis Cardinals - 1 Year 4 Million
Woody Williams - Houston Astros - 2 Years 12.5 Million
Randy Wolf - Los Angeles Dodgers - 1 Year 8 Million
Kerry Wood - Chicago Cubs - 1 Year 1.75 Million
Gregg Zaun - Toronto Blue Jays - 2 Years 7.25 Million

   Here is a list of the remaining free agents.

Sandy Alomar, Jr., Tony Armas, Jr., Rich Aurilia, Jeff Bagwell, Paul Bako, Rod
Barajas, Miguel
Batista, David Bell, Ronnie Belliard, Geoff Blum, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Joe
Borowski, Chad
Bradford, Doug Brocail, Jeromy Burnitz, Miguel Cairo, Vinny Castilla, Bruce
Chen, Jeff Cirillo,
Royce Clayton, Roger Clemens, Mike DeJean, David Dellucci, Einer Diaz, Mike
DiFelice, Octavio
Dotel, J.D. Drew, Ray Durham, Adam Eaton, Alan Embree, Darin Erstad, Shawn
Estes, Pedro Feliz,
Robert Fick, Steve Finley, Cliff Floyd, Keith Foulke, Ryan Franklin, Aaron
Fultz, Eric Gagne, Tom
Glavine, Chris Gomez, Luis Gonzalez, Tony Graffanino, Todd Greene, Eddie
Guardado, Jose Guillen,
LaTroy Hawkins, Rick Helling, Matt Herges, Dustin Hermanson, Jose Hernandez,
Roberto Hernandez,
Shea Hillenbrand, Todd Hollandsworth, Aubrey Huff, Jason Johnson, Brian Jordan,
Gabe Kapler, Ray
King, Ryan Klesko, Steve Kline, Dan Kolb, Ricky Ledee, Mike Lieberthal, Ted
Lilly, Kenny Lofton,
Mark Loretta, Julio Lugo, John Mabry, Greg Maddux, Jason Marquis, Tom Martin,
Brian Meadows, Gil
Meche, Kent Mercker, Jose Mesa, Doug Mientkiewicz, Kevin Millar, Doug Mirabelli,
Brian Moeller,
Bengie Molina, Guillermo Mota, Mark Mulder, Jeff Nelson, Phil Nevin, Trot Nixon,
Tomo Ohka, Darren
Oliver, Ramon Ortiz, Russ Ortiz, Vicente Padilla, Chan Ho Park, Jay Payton, Troy
Percival, Eduardo
Perez, Tomas Perez, Andy Pettitte, Mike Piazza, Todd Pratt, Brad Radke, Joe
Randa, Mark Redman,
Arthur Rhodes, David Riske, Dave Roberts, J.C. Romero, Jason Schmidt, Scott
Schoeneweis, Rudy
Seanez, Aaron Sele, Russ Springer, Matt Stairs, Shannon Stewart, Tanyon Sturtze,
Jeff Suppan,
Fernando Tatis, John Thomson, Steve Trachsel, Michael Tucker, Ron Villone, Jose
Vizcaino, Todd
Walker, Daryle Ward, David Weathers, Jeff Weaver, David Wells, Rick White,
Rondell White, Chris
Widger, Bernie Williams, Craig Wilson, Paul Wilson, Preston Wilson, Chris
Woodward, Jamey Wright,
Eric Young, Barry Zito

   I kind of have to wonder why Jeff Suppan isn't getting more talk since he
pitched so well in the
post season.  He too is from the LA area and have to wonder if maybe he could be
on the Dodgers
list too if Schmidt and Zito go somewhere else.

                                                                                         
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Colletti announced Randy Wolf and the Dodgers have finalized an $8 million, one-year contract.   Wolf gets $7.5 million next year, and the Dodgers have a $9 million option for 2008 with a $500,000 buyout.  His 2008 salary would become guaranteed if Wolf pitches 180 innings next season.  Could be a good starter for us but coming off elbow surgery – will he stay healthy.  That is the big question.

Greg

For 19 Million, a little raise from his off season last season.  That's a
little more than 6
Milion a season.  Overpaid I am sure but if he can return to the form that made
him a 40+ save
closer for Tampa Bay, it would be a deal for Baltimore.

                                                                                          
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They sign free agent outfielder Carlos Lee for six years and 100 Million an
average of a little
less than the 17 Million that Soriano got.  He and Lance Berkman should
complement each other very
well and Houston has needed help with their offense.  Now I have to wonder if
they will resign
Andy Pettitte & Roger Clemens.

                                                                                        
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Matthews did indeed sign with Anaheim.

                                                                                          
Kristin

--- Zvi Shilon <zvika6@...> wrote:

>
>                      AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP  
SLG   TB   SH  SF
> IBB HBP GDP
>
>
> 162 Game Avg
<http://www.baseball-reference.com/about/bat_glossary.shtml#162_avg>         516
> 79  136  29  4  14   58  12  5  57 103  .263  .336  .419  216   2   4   3   2
8
> 162 Game Avg
<http://www.baseball-reference.com/about/bat_glossary.shtml#162_avg>         661
> 98  200  24 10   2   46  52 19  42  40  .303  .350  .377  250  12   2   1   8
8
>
> The top line is the stats for Gary Matthews Jr. The bottom line is the stats
for Juan Pierre,
> who is three years younger. Matthews is rumoured to be close to signing with
the Angels. Several
> other teams are interested in him. It appears to me that we did much better in
getting Pierre.
>
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I guess there will be Dodger fans who think Matthews, Jr would have been the
better pick up than
Pierre was but I don't think so.  I am happy with Juan and his deal is a little
less than Matthews
who will be getting 10 Million a season.  Matthews had nice numbers last season
but his history
shows that he doesn't play in many games and he had seven errors last season
too.  It's a toss up
I guess but I like the speed at the top of the lineup for the Dodgers.  Gary is
also three years
older than Juan too.  It's a good pickup for the Angels.

                                                                                          
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I never considered Pierre an elite player, but when I check his career stats, I see that I am wrong. In the last six years of his seven year career (he only played in 51 games in his first year), he has averaged 53 stolen bases per year.  His OBP is 351, the same as Furcal's. He is 29, in his prime, so five years is acceptable. We also keep him from the Giants. All in all, a good deal at nine million per. It also allows Kemp to get more seasoning. The outfield shapes up as Garciaparra/ Loney, Pierre and Ethier left to right, but we can look forward to Ethier, Pierre and Kemp in the near future. Our outfield should be a source of strength for years to come. As Kristin says, it will be great to have two rabbits leading off. I imagine this means that we will not be looking for a power hitter unless it is at third base (I still fantasize about trading for Cabrerra).. Personally, I would like to see Kemp make the starting line up with a great spring and Garciaparra start at third with Loney at first. With the deals the Dodgers have made so far, I believe they can afford to be in the Zito/Schmidt sweepstakes.

Starting line-up

C -   Martin

1B – Loney

2B – Kent

3B – Garciaparra

SS – Furcal

LF -   Ethier

CF – Pierre

RF – Kemp

SP – Zito/Schmidt/Maddux

          Lowe

          Penny

          Billingsley

          Kuo

BP -  Saito (CL)

          Gagne

           Broxton

           Brazoban

           Tomko/Hendrickson

            Beimel/Hendrickson

Subs   Diaz/Hall/(Piazza)

             Betemit

             Martinez

            Saenz

            Anderson

            Repko           

            

Not too shabby.

Zvika

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Source: Dodgers, CF Pierre agree to five-year deal
By Jerry Crasnick
ESPN.com

Free agent center fielder Juan Pierre has agreed to a five-year contract
with the Los Angeles Dodgers, a source told ESPN.com on Monday. The deal is
believed to be worth $44-45 million.

The deal will become complete when Pierre passes a physical exam, the source
said.

Pierre, 29, is a .303 hitter over seven seasons with Colorado, Florida and
the Chicago Cubs. He led the National League with 204 hits in 2006.
The San Francisco Giants were also interested in Pierre, and had offered him
a four-year deal in the $32-34 million range, a source said.
Jerry Crasnick covers Major League Baseball for ESPN Insider.

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I know what I would rather have, a player who isn't injury prone and who plays
and that player
isn't Drew so let it be Soriano or someone else who actually earns their
contract on the field.
17 Million is high but I agree with Zvi that it's the longetivity of the deal
that's crazy.

                                                                                          
Kristin
--- Zvi Shilon <zvika6@...> wrote:

>
>
> In my opinion, what you are missing is that Soriano is worth 17 million in
today's market. Drew
> will likely get 14 million. Would you rather have Drew at 14 million or
Soriano at 17? My only
> problem is with the length of the contract.
>
>
>
> Zvika
>
>
>
> Zvi Shilon,
>
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>
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>
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>   _____
>
> From: dodgersbigblueclub@yahoogroups.com
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> Of Dan Green
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:34 PM
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> Subject: RE: [DODGERS] Re: [dodgersbigblueclub] Re: [LosAngelesDodgers] Rumor
is...Soriano will
> be signing!
>
>
>
> Yes, between sharing and money from TV and Cable and attendance, MLB is doing
well in a dollars
> and cents context...  I would just hate to see the golden goose killed for no
good reason and
> 17million a year sure sounds like it....  IMHO Soriano is NOT a 17million/yr
player... Or am I
> missing something totally obvious here...Dan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Zvi Shilon <zvika6@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> No one player can lead the Cubs to the playoffs, but Soriano will lead the
Dodgers to the
> playoffs and beyond, in my opinion. Also, in my opinion, market value doesn't
have to be
> adjusted as long as MLB teams continue to earn the revenues they earn.
>
> Zvika
>
> Zvi Shilon,
>
> Nahal Hayarkon 8/4,
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>
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> 972-8- 970-0381
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> ! From: DODGERS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DODGERS@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
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> Subject: [DODGERS] Re: [dodgersbigblueclub] Re: [LosAngelesDodgers] Rumor
is...Soriano will be
> signing!
>
>
>
> I get what you mean about "market value"...but then the market needs to be
corrected... there is
> simply no way a single player, can generate enough income to support that
payroll expense...  17
> million..for Soriano??  Is this guy a sure fire HofFer??  Is he the best
player in MLB?  Is he
> the guy you build your team around??  Somebody talk some sense here...and in
the end,,,is he the
> guy to lead the Cubbies to the playoffs??   Dan
>
> Zvi Shilon <zvika6@...> wrote:
>
> If Drew will get 14 million a year from Boston, Soriano is probably worth 17.
That is the market
> value at this time. But I wouldn't want to give him anywhere near eight years.
>
> zvika
>
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>
> Nahal Hayarkon 8/4,
>
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>
> 972-8- 970-0381
>
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> Subject: [LosAngelesDodgers] Rumor is...Soriano will be signing!
>
>
> An 8 year, 136 Million Contract with the Chicago Cubs. I didn't want LA to
sign him, not to
> that kind of money. What does everyone else think? Of course the deal hasn't
been done yet but I
> think it will be. I got the info from espn.com
>
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I think maybe she was referring to the long term free agent signings like
Kevin Brown and the
resiging of Darren Dreifort.  The other contracts were for shorter amounts of
time.  That was what
I mean't when I agreed with her, the longetivity contracts.

                                                                                         
Kristin

--- Zvi Shilon <zvika6@...> wrote:

> Nearly every time? Their last three free agent signings were all successful;
Furcal, Garciaparra
> and Lofton. They are growing their own, but veterans like the above three are
a necessity for a
> team to be successful.
>
>
>
> Zvika
>
>
>
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>
> Nahal Hayarkon 8/4,
>
> Modiin,   71700,
>
> Israel
>
> 972-8- 970-0381
>
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> Of moreta1017@...
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> Subject: Re: [BlueBallsandStrikes] Rumor is...Soriano will be signing!
>
>
>
> Nearly every time the Dodgers have dabbled in the Free Agent market they've
gotten burned. Don
> Stanhouse is the first that comes to mind. I so wish they would do like in the
70's and Grow
> Their Own. So it takes time...
>
>
>
> --Beth
>
> Kristin <prettyrose33@...> wrote:
>
>
> An 8 year, 136 Million Contract with the Chicago Cubs. I didn't want LA to
sign him, not to
> that kind of money. What does everyone else think? Of course the deal hasn't
been done yet but I
> think it will be. I got the info from espn.com
>
> Kristin
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No one player can lead the Cubs to the playoffs, but Soriano will lead the Dodgers to the playoffs and beyond, in my opinion. Also, in my opinion, market value doesn't have to be adjusted as long as MLB teams continue to earn the revenues they earn.

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Subject: [DODGERS] Re: [dodgersbigblueclub] Re: [LosAngelesDodgers] Rumor is...Soriano will be signing!

I get what you mean about "market value"...but then the market needs to be corrected... there is simply no way a single player, can generate enough income to support that payroll expense...  17 million..for Soriano??  Is this guy a sure fire HofFer??  Is he the best player in MLB?  Is he the guy you build your team around??  Somebody talk some sense here...and in the end,,,is he the guy to lead the Cubbies to the playoffs??   Dan

Zvi Shilon <zvika6@zahav.net.il> wrote:

If Drew will get 14 million a year from Boston, Soriano is probably worth 17. That is the market value at this time. But I wouldn't want to give him anywhere near eight years.

zvika

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Subject: [LosAngelesDodgers] Rumor is...Soriano will be signing!

An 8 year, 136 Million Contract with the Chicago Cubs. I didn't want LA to sign him, not to
that kind of money. What does everyone else think? Of course the deal hasn't been done yet but I
think it will be. I got the info from espn.com

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Agreed.  Five years, maybe 6.  With 8 years, he will be 38 when his deal
expires.  I wouldn't
want to pay a 35 and 36 year old 17 Million per.

                                                                                          
Kristin

--- Zvi Shilon <zvika6@...> wrote:

> If Drew will get 14 million a year from Boston, Soriano is probably worth 17.
That is the market
> value at this time. But I wouldn't want to give him anywhere near eight years.
>
> zvika
>
> Zvi Shilon,
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> Modiin,   71700,
> Israel
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>
>
>
>   An 8 year, 136 Million Contract with the Chicago Cubs. I didn't want LA to
sign him, not to
>   that kind of money. What does everyone else think? Of course the deal hasn't
been done yet but
> I
>   think it will be. I got the info from espn.com
>
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No, I don't think so.  I still believe that pitching is the key there.  Heck,
Sammy Sosa and all
his homeruns didn't lead the Cubbies anywhere.

                                                                                           
Kristin
--- Dan Green <marathon_dan@...> wrote:

> I get what you mean about "market value"...but then the market needs to be
corrected... there is
> simply no way a single player, can generate enough income to support that
payroll expense...  17
> million..for Soriano??  Is this guy a sure fire HofFer??  Is he the best
player in MLB?  Is he
> the guy you build your team around??  Somebody talk some sense here...and in
the end,,,is he the
> guy to lead the Cubbies to the playoffs??   Dan
>
> Zvi Shilon <zvika6@...> wrote:              If Drew will get 14
million a year from
> Boston, Soriano is probably worth 17. That is the market value at this time.
But I wouldn't want
> to give him anywhere near eight years.
>
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> An 8 year, 136 Million Contract with the Chicago Cubs. I didn't want LA to
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> that kind of money. What does everyone else think? Of course the deal hasn't
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> think it will be. I got the info from espn.com
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He had stated or his agent stated that Soriano wanted the kind of money
Beltran signed for and
his average salary is 17 Million.  Like Zvi said, if Drew gets 14 Million,
Soriano has to get
more.  Gosh, Beltre at 13 Million per in Seattle is looking like a deal now! 
;-)

                                                                                       
Kristin

--- Dan Green <marathon_dan@...> wrote:

> Am I doing the math correctly?  17 million/yr???  I'm sorry, I can not see how
any single player
> can generate the income stream needed to justify that contract.....  If that's
what was needed,
> then I'm glad the Dodgers pasted...or at least got totally outbid...  Dan
>
> moreta1017@... wrote:            Nearly every time the Dodgers have
dabbled in the
> Free Agent market they've gotten burned. Don Stanhouse is the first that comes
to mind. I so
> wish they would do like in the 70's and Grow Their Own. So it takes time...
>
>   --Beth
>
> Kristin <prettyrose33@...> wrote:
>
> An 8 year, 136 Million Contract with the Chicago Cubs. I didn't want LA to
sign him, not to
> that kind of money. What does everyone else think? Of course the deal hasn't
been done yet but I
> think it will be. I got the info from espn.com
>
> Kristin
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Agreed.  I'm starting to think the same thing.  Anytime a free agent signs a
huge deal, the fans
have to pay for it in raising prices, from parking to concessions and of course
to ticket prices.

                                                                                        
Kristin

--- moreta1017@... wrote:

> Nearly every time the Dodgers have dabbled in the Free Agent market they've
gotten burned. Don
> Stanhouse is the first that comes to mind. I so wish they would do like in the
70's and Grow
> Their Own. So it takes time...
>
>   --Beth
>
> Kristin <prettyrose33@...> wrote:
>
> An 8 year, 136 Million Contract with the Chicago Cubs. I didn't want LA to
sign him, not to
> that kind of money. What does everyone else think? Of course the deal hasn't
been done yet but I
> think it will be. I got the info from espn.com
>
> Kristin
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If Drew will get 14 million a year from Boston, Soriano is probably worth 17. That is the market value at this time. But I wouldn't want to give him anywhere near eight years.

 

zvika

 

Zvi Shilon, 

Nahal Hayarkon 8/4, 

Modiin,   71700, 

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Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 11:12 PM

Subject: [LosAngelesDodgers] Rumor is...Soriano will be signing!

An 8 year, 136 Million Contract with the Chicago Cubs. I didn't want LA to sign him, not to
that kind of money. What does everyone else think? Of course the deal hasn't been done yet but I
think it will be. I got the info from espn.com

Kristin

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There have been some more free agent signings but none by the Dodgers so far. 
The Angels also
named a pitching coach and unfortunately it isn't Orel Hershiser.  Their new
pitching coach is
former Angel Mike Butcher.  It's probably better Orel isn't there because I
really didn't want to
root for the Angels.  The Angels also signed a free agent, Justin Speier, a
relief pitcher to a
four year deal.  Frank Catalanatto signed a three year deal with the Texas
Rangers.  The Reds have
signed free agent Mike Stanton as well as Shortstop Alex Gonzalez and the Mets
are close to
signing Moises Alou.

                                                                                        
Kristin




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Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 11:12 PM

Subject: [LosAngelesDodgers] Rumor is...Soriano will be signing!

An 8 year, 136 Million Contract with the Chicago Cubs. I didn't want LA to sign him, not to
that kind of money. What does everyone else think? Of course the deal hasn't been done yet but I
think it will be. I got the info from espn.com

Kristin

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Nearly every time the Dodgers have dabbled in the Free Agent market they've gotten burned. Don Stanhouse is the first that comes to mind. I so wish they would do like in the 70's and Grow Their Own. So it takes time...

 

--Beth

Kristin <prettyrose33@yahoo.com> wrote:

An 8 year, 136 Million Contract with the Chicago Cubs. I didn't want LA to sign him, not to
that kind of money. What does everyone else think? Of course the deal hasn't been done yet but I
think it will be. I got the info from espn.com

Kristin

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An 8 year, 136 Million Contract with the Chicago Cubs. I didn't want LA to sign him, not to
that kind of money. What does everyone else think? Of course the deal hasn't been done yet but I
think it will be. I got the info from espn.com

Kristin

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An 8 year, 136 Million Contract with the Chicago Cubs.  I didn't want LA to
sign him, not to
that kind of money.  What does everyone else think?  Of course the deal hasn't
been done yet but I
think it will be.  I got the info from espn.com

                                                                                          
Kristin




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Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:57 AM

Subject: [DODGERS] Breaking Dodger News!

No, Nomar hasn't been signed. Bill Mueller has decided to retire and take a job in the front
office.

Kristin

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