From: Mike K. <mlkaplan43@...>
Subject: [DodgerNation] Re: [DODGERS] The Save
To: DodgerNation@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 1:08 PM

Gossage probably would have been inducted sooner, if not for the save
stat. His dominance was obscured by his (relatively) low save total.

--- In DodgerNation@ yahoogroups. com, Ray Espinoza <dodgerfan34@ ...> wrote:
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> The Save is a the dumbest category, right up there with the HOLD and
the Blown Save. All of them are useless stats. I am sure guys like
Sutter, Goose and ECK are happy because it got them into the Hall of
Fame......and Fingers too.....
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> --- On Thu, 7/17/08, Mike K. <mlkaplan43@ ...> wrote:
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> From: Mike K. <mlkaplan43@ ...>
> Subject: [DodgerNation] Re: [DODGERS] Saito
> To: DodgerNation@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 11:55 AM
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> A relief pitcher earns a blown save if he gives up a lead at any point
> during the game, if it's a "save situation." It's possible to have
> more than one blown save in a game. However, a pitcher can only get a
> save if he finishes the game.
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> Another reason why I think the save rule is stupid.
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> --- In DodgerNation@ yahoogroups. com, Ray Espinoza <dodgerfan34@
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> > I don't think it really matters how many blown saves he has in the
> past, it's all about what is going on from right here, right now. The
> Dodgers are going to miss Saito but I really like this Broxton guy and
> I think he is going to be great in this new role.
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> > myspace.com/ rayespinoza Official Page of Ray Espinoza
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> > --- On Thu, 7/17/08, Kristin <prettyrose33@ ...> wrote:
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> > From: Kristin <prettyrose33@ ...>
> > Subject: Re: [DODGERS] Saito
> > To: DODGERS@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 11:22 AM
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> > Yep, 15 blown saves unless they are counting leads in the 8th
> inning that he has either allowed the other team to tie or lead
> because I don't remember him ever coming into close that many games.
> I remember the one on Mother's Day this year that he allowed like 5
> runs if I am not mistaken. Is that considered a blown save even if he
> came in the 8th?
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> > Kristin
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> > --- On Wed, 7/16/08, Stacey Falero <stacyfalero@ sbcglobal. net>
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> > From: Stacey Falero <stacyfalero@ sbcglobal. net>
> > Subject: Re: [DODGERS] Saito
> > To: DODGERS@yahoogroups ..com
> > Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 9:01 PM
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> > It was on dodgers.com. It is in the article that has the title
> "Saito to miss 6 weeks". Sometimes you can blow a save and not get the
> loss, especially if the other team just ties it up. He has 5 saves in
> 21 save opportunities, it states.
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> > --- On Wed, 7/16/08, Stacey Falero <stacyfalero@ sbcglobal. net>
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> > From: Stacey Falero <stacyfalero@ sbcglobal. net>
> > Subject: Re: [DODGERS] Saito
> > To: DODGERS@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 7:25 PM
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> > I thought that too....my son just told me that Broxton has 5 career
> saves and 15 blown saves in his career.....tell me this isn't so.
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> > Ray Espinoza <dodgerfan34@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > I have 100% faith in Broxton, in fact, I think Broxton is the closer
> of the future. This is his chance to show what he can do and that he
> can step up and take over that position.
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> > myspace.com/ rayespinoza Official Page of Ray Espinoza
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> > --- On Wed, 7/16/08, Kristin <prettyrose33@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > From: Kristin <prettyrose33@ yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [DODGERS] Saito
> > To: dodgers@yahoogroups .com, dodgersbigblueclub@ yahoogroups. com,
> ladodgerbestfans@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 1:10 PM
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> > What a way to start the second half...but I knew there had to be
> something wrong with Saito because he hasn't been like the Saito of
> old this season.
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> > Kristin
> > Injured Dodgers closer Saito out at least 6 weeks
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> > LOS ANGELES (AP)—Dodgers closer Takashi Saito will be sidelined
> until at least late August with a sprained elbow ligament in his
> pitching arm..
> > Saito, 38, was diagnosed Tuesday by team physician Neal ElAttrache,
> who has ruled out surgery for now. Saito is headed for the 15-day
> disabled list and will rehabilitate his right arm for six weeks, then
> be reevaluated, the team said.
> > He is 3-3 with a 2.18 ERA in 39 appearances. Saito has 17 saves in
> 20 chances.
> > General manager Ned Colletti said it is difficult to replace a closer.
> > "As far as trading for a closer, it's a lot like trying to acquire a
> shortstop—it' s a premium position and most teams don't carry an
> excess," Colletti said from the All-Star game in New York.
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> > Manager Joe Torre said Sunday that Jonathan Broxton would be the
> team's closer until further notice. But Torre was unsure who would
> take over for Broxton as setup man.
> > Broxton said he's ready for his new role.
> > "I just look at it like it's the eighth inning. I come out and get
> outs," Broxton said. "It's no different for me."
> > Saito, an All-Star last year, had his ninth-inning stint Saturday
> night against Florida cut short because of tightness in the elbow.
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