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Re: [BikeE] Vetta Bike E cyclometer

Who knows what else they did then.  You could use a pickup made from a two wire hall effect sensor and maybe that requires shielding?  Doesn't make sense to me considering how dependable a reed switch is - a billion operations are quoted by manufacturers if they are encapsulated with an inert gas.

I am guessing that given the difficulty generating a strong enough field using cheap magnets (we have all fiddled with a computer that seem hard to trip) maybe they get more sensitivity with a more complicated pickup.  Any complication that would require an electronic pickup could be alleviated by using a nice neodymium magnet with a properly specified reed switch.

Here is another idea.  There is a proliferation of wireless systems.  I never use them so I have no idea if they use reed switches or not.  But if they do not, and use instead a hall effect circuit, that could create an economic situation where reuse of the wireless pickup, but with wire makes sense - they piggy back the wired volume onto the greater wireless pickup use thereby getting a better purchase price for the components all around.  But the wires can become an antenna for stray electrical noise and coaxial is needed to keep the signal clean.  This would never be a problem with a read switch alone.  That is all rash speculation.

BTW, I get it about the eyes and close work.  I have extra strong reading glasses lying about everywhere at work and home.  I even stack two pairs when soldering surface mount components by hand.  Two pairs with 3.25 magnification will do the trick.

Mike




On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Kirke Johnson <kirkej@...> wrote:

Interesting. As I recall, the computer with the coax cable was the Performance Axiom (3C?) - anyway, they have changed models twice since then before changing brands completely.  ;-{

I'll have to dissect another cable the next time I goober up the wire - have been having pretty good luck keeping them intact for a couple of years (saying which will no doubt jinx me).

Thanks for the detailed info!


On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Michael Ross <michael.e.ross@...> wrote:

There is no commonality between cabling for these things.  What you see on one computer will not be seen on another.   After splicing at least 8 different cycle computers I have never yet encountered coaxial wire. They often look round like coaxial but really have two side by side conductors.   I am sorry you had such trouble, but I have never had the least trouble splicing these things.  I seriously doubt anyone who has soldered or spliced before will have any issues with the procedure.

Indeed, I have no idea why anyone would spec coaxial cable for cycle computers.  The pickups are the simplest thing in the world - a magnetic reed switch.
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I bought an original Bike E cyclometer a few years ago but never installed it on my Bike E. I tried to install it tonight and the wire was too short....
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Sue, I own a Bike E also and recently bought a new cycle computer with too short of wires same as you, i found a computer/light mount at Rasmussen Bike...
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I bought a used BikeE last year and I had the local bike shop install a cycle computer. But they installed it way too low on the handlebar since that was as...
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Just splice in some wire. If you can solder that will make the most dependable connections. I almost always splice in a splice of heavier wire when I get a...
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The wire is coaxial (small wire inside a conductive outer shield) and is so fine that I found it impossible to work with. I can solder, and have built numerous...
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There is no commonality between cabling for these things. What you see on one computer will not be seen on another. After splicing at least 8 different...
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Interesting. As I recall, the computer with the coax cable was the Performance Axiom (3C?) - anyway, they have changed models twice since then before changing...
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Who knows what else they did then. You could use a pickup made from a two wire hall effect sensor and maybe that requires shielding? Doesn't make sense to me...
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