Appologize if I mispoke, just meant I felt it would be good if NEMBA
members were involved with this and helped out.  Let us know how we
can.  Thanks!


--- In BerkshireNEMBA@yahoogroups.com, "guzzywater" <meanwheels@...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks for clearing that up- because I see Amy and Dan also wrote
that
> NEMBA would be a sponsor- so your idea is to have NEMBA volunteer
to
> help out and then benefit by getting some of the profit? Do you
have
> any idea what helping out might entail?   Ruth
>
> --- In BerkshireNEMBA@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Kellogg
> <jeffreykellogg@> wrote:
> >
> > USacycling sanctioned race not NEMBA.
> >  
> > NEMBA would be be benefit organization.
> >  
> >  
> >
>

Thanks for clearing that up- because I see Amy and Dan also wrote that
NEMBA would be a sponsor- so your idea is to have NEMBA volunteer to
help out and then benefit by getting some of the profit? Do you have
any idea what helping out might entail?   Ruth

--- In BerkshireNEMBA@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Kellogg
<jeffreykellogg@...> wrote:
>
> USacycling sanctioned race not NEMBA.
>  
> NEMBA would be be benefit organization.
>  
>  
>

Jeff,
   We'd like to help out with this.  Feel that NEMBA being the sponsor
is a good idea.  Let us know what  we can do to help you out.


--- In BerkshireNEMBA@yahoogroups.com, "jeffreykellogg"
<jeffreykellogg@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Nemba/NoRules folks
>
> For the past three years I have run a MTB race at Holiday Farm in
> Dalton as part of the Rt 66 race series (the premier MTB race
series
> in NE).  I have associated this with a different group of cyclist
but
> would like to have NEMBA support it and to use as a fund raiser for
> the Berkshire NEMBA chapter.  Dicken Crane is obviously very open
to
> us using the land and has supported us for years.
>
> I rec'd this email from Jill and Chris (the Rt 66 promoters) about
> the Arc shop looking to help out but I wanted to first bring it in
> front of the NEMBA/NoRules crew as an idea. I hesitate to associate
> it with a single shop as this then eliminates the other shops -
maybe
> a co promoted race with Berkshire Bike and Board and Arc shop??  Or
> two race weekend with each taking one race>??  At the same time I
> hate to give up on getting offered support as that is a rarity
>
>  In past the race has made between $500 and $2500.  The earlier
> season race dates tend to have bigger fields and therefor make more
> $$.  The proposed (below) date in August was what we did last year
> and the turnout was a little lower - but we still made $500.  With
a
> festival type idea it might be more profit.....  also I wonder
about
> camping at Olsen Rd and utilizing the PSF trails for a formal
> event........  seems like some amazing trails to race on, BUT that
> would open trails up to a lot of use...... double edged
sword.......
>
> What are thoughts>?
>
> It would need 2-3 people to function as race committee and about 10
> people for race day support and a few extras for set up and take
> down.... A discourse would be appreciated Jeff Kellogg
>
> --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Jill and Chris Logan <logansrun66@...>
> wrote:
>
> From: Jill and Chris Logan <logansrun66@...>
> Subject: holiday farm race 2009
> To: "Jeff Kellogg" <jeffreykellogg@...>
> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 1:19 PM
>
> Hi Jeff, I know, hard to believe I'm already looking into 2009 but
I
> am.....................the folks at the Arcadian Shop in Dalton
have
> expressed an interest in hosting a race and I believe they are
> willing to work with an already established venue and promoter
which
> of course your race would be the perfect fit.  Is this something
you
> would be interested in looking into and possibly having them work
> with you for your event or are you thinking you are happy as is???
> It is your decision obviously but if you think its something that
> will work for you let me know and I will put you in touch with the
> interested contact person. On a different but similar note.......
>
> NEMBA hosts a fallish festival each year and for the past three
years
> it has been in conjunction with our Landmine event.  Phil Keyes the
> President of NEMBA expressed an interest in moving to a different
> location but still staying connected with our race weekends and I
> thought Holiday Farm may be the perfect venue for this and I would
> look for an August date as our last race of the season for 2009 is
> tentatively 9/12ish. Let me know your thoughts...................
> Hope all is well. Jill
>

Harry I added your time to the database. Harry and I sniped Pudgy's
trail this am- it wasn't too overgrown, just a lot of prickers and
stuff hanging in your face. I took some video on my camera and Brads
camera- Brad- its pretty stupid but I can't figure out how to watch the
video on your camera- on mine there is a play button for simpletons...I
have an idea for a trail up there- will discuss at the meeting which
BTW is it all set ip for sure? We should publize it if it is. Ruth

Hello Nemba/NoRules folks

For the past three years I have run a MTB race at Holiday Farm in
Dalton as part of the Rt 66 race series (the premier MTB race series
in NE).  I have associated this with a different group of cyclist but
would like to have NEMBA support it and to use as a fund raiser for
the Berkshire NEMBA chapter.  Dicken Crane is obviously very open to
us using the land and has supported us for years.

I rec'd this email from Jill and Chris (the Rt 66 promoters) about
the Arc shop looking to help out but I wanted to first bring it in
front of the NEMBA/NoRules crew as an idea. I hesitate to associate
it with a single shop as this then eliminates the other shops - maybe
a co promoted race with Berkshire Bike and Board and Arc shop??  Or
two race weekend with each taking one race>??  At the same time I
hate to give up on getting offered support as that is a rarity

  In past the race has made between $500 and $2500.  The earlier
season race dates tend to have bigger fields and therefor make more
$$.  The proposed (below) date in August was what we did last year
and the turnout was a little lower - but we still made $500.  With a
festival type idea it might be more profit.....  also I wonder about
camping at Olsen Rd and utilizing the PSF trails for a formal
event........  seems like some amazing trails to race on, BUT that
would open trails up to a lot of use...... double edged sword.......

What are thoughts>?

It would need 2-3 people to function as race committee and about 10
people for race day support and a few extras for set up and take
down.... A discourse would be appreciated Jeff Kellogg

--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Jill and Chris Logan <logansrun66@...>
wrote:

From: Jill and Chris Logan <logansrun66@...>
Subject: holiday farm race 2009
To: "Jeff Kellogg" <jeffreykellogg@...>
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 1:19 PM

Hi Jeff, I know, hard to believe I'm already looking into 2009 but I
am.....................the folks at the Arcadian Shop in Dalton have
expressed an interest in hosting a race and I believe they are
willing to work with an already established venue and promoter which
of course your race would be the perfect fit.  Is this something you
would be interested in looking into and possibly having them work
with you for your event or are you thinking you are happy as is???
It is your decision obviously but if you think its something that
will work for you let me know and I will put you in touch with the
interested contact person. On a different but similar note.......

NEMBA hosts a fallish festival each year and for the past three years
it has been in conjunction with our Landmine event.  Phil Keyes the
President of NEMBA expressed an interest in moving to a different
location but still staying connected with our race weekends and I
thought Holiday Farm may be the perfect venue for this and I would
look for an August date as our last race of the season for 2009 is
tentatively 9/12ish. Let me know your thoughts...................
Hope all is well. Jill

Saturday I am going to snip/remove down trees on Pudgy"s trail for the
Berkshire Natural Resources Council. Any help would be great.

Meet at 9:30 am at the gate on the road that goes over Lenox Mt
towards Olivias Overlook from the Lenox side. Maps call it Richmond Mt
Rd but I don't know if there is a sign or not. From the center of
Lenox go just past Tanglewood stay right and go about a mile to a pull
off on the right with a gate- that goes up Old Baldhead Rd to Monks
Pond. Its before the road goes uphill to the top where Olivias
Overlook is.

If you need snips I will bring extra NEMBA snips with me- shouldn't be
a huge job if we get a few people. And then you can ride from there too!

Ruth

I can chainsaw. Call me at 229 0313 Harry


--- On Fri, 10/10/08, guzzywater <meanwheels@...> wrote:

> From: guzzywater <meanwheels@...>
> Subject: [BerkshireNEMBA] BNRC- exciting news
> To: BerkshireNEMBA@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 12:54 PM
> I just talked to Doug Bruce at the Berkshire Natural
> Resources Council
> and offered to help out. He was VERY enthusiastic and wants
> us to
> BUILD NEW TRAILS!!! How cool is this? They are a wonderful
> organization and we should do everything we can to support
> them since
> they keep all their land open to non-motorized vehicles and
> openly
> welcome MTB. And BTW they own property all over the
> Berkshires, not
> just on Lenox Mountain.
>
> First off though we need to weed wack/snip/remove downed
> trees on
> Pudgys trail- I will try to set up a date we can do that.
> With a few
> people it shouldn't be a big deal. There is only one
> string attached:
> before we do any work we need to document it in photos and
> then take
> after photos. I think we can handle that!
>
>  He would also be happy if we could make that stone
> "walk" on the
> lower Burbank Trail more mountain bike friendly- I'm
> sure we could
> figure something out!!! He isn't happy that the
> mountain bikers are
> avoiding the stones and riding thru the mud but understands
> its not
> very rideable!
>
> He also asked if we could remove two down trees on the
> Charcoal trail-
> they are 18 inches and require a chain saw. Can anyone
> tackle this job
> ASAP? (With photos) The Charcoal trail starts at Olivias
> overlook-
> there are two trails on the parking lot side of the road-
> the lower
> one is the Charcoal, the upper one is the Walsh. Let me
> know if you
> can help out. Thanks Ruth

I forgot to mention, he would like to be invited to one of our
meetings to meet us. Brad- do we have any meetings in the future??  Ruth

I just talked to Doug Bruce at the Berkshire Natural Resources Council
and offered to help out. He was VERY enthusiastic and wants us to
BUILD NEW TRAILS!!! How cool is this? They are a wonderful
organization and we should do everything we can to support them since
they keep all their land open to non-motorized vehicles and openly
welcome MTB. And BTW they own property all over the Berkshires, not
just on Lenox Mountain.

First off though we need to weed wack/snip/remove downed trees on
Pudgys trail- I will try to set up a date we can do that. With a few
people it shouldn't be a big deal. There is only one string attached:
before we do any work we need to document it in photos and then take
after photos. I think we can handle that!

  He would also be happy if we could make that stone "walk" on the
lower Burbank Trail more mountain bike friendly- I'm sure we could
figure something out!!! He isn't happy that the mountain bikers are
avoiding the stones and riding thru the mud but understands its not
very rideable!

He also asked if we could remove two down trees on the Charcoal trail-
they are 18 inches and require a chain saw. Can anyone tackle this job
ASAP? (With photos) The Charcoal trail starts at Olivias overlook-
there are two trails on the parking lot side of the road- the lower
one is the Charcoal, the upper one is the Walsh. Let me know if you
can help out. Thanks Ruth

i can do it


--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Brad Herder <brad@...> wrote:

> From: Brad Herder <brad@...>
> Subject: [BerkshireNEMBA] ROUTER ANYONE?
> To: BerkshireNEMBA@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 8:33 AM
> I was up at DAR State Forest and NEMBA has done quite a bit
> of bridge
> work up there.  On some of the bridges, they routered
> "NEMBA" into the
> first board on the bridge.  I thought that was really cool.
>
> It got me thinking we should really create a sign for the
> Turner Trail
> which says:
>
>  Turner Trail
> Reconstruction
>     2008
>   Berkshire
>     NEMBA
>
> Or something to that effect.  Maybe make two - one for the
> top, one for
> the bottom.  What do you think? Anyone got a router and
> skills to use
> one?  I bought one once and couldn't do anything with
> it.
>
> I'd be willing to stain/paint it after it was done...
> but even that...
> I pretty much suck at. :-)
>
> Brad

With the leaves coming down, I was able to find loads of trees with
plastic flagging still up today (42 but who's OCD....).  Removed all I
could find but, probably a bunch are still there. If you see any while
riding Turner take a sec and remove them.
Mike

----- Original Message -----

From: Brad Herder

To: BerkshireNEMBA@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 8:33 AM

Subject: [BerkshireNEMBA] ROUTER ANYONE?

I was up at DAR State Forest and NEMBA has done quite a bit of bridge
work up there. On some of the bridges, they routered "NEMBA" into the
first board on the bridge. I thought that was really cool.

It got me thinking we should really create a sign for the Turner Trail
which says:

Turner Trail
Reconstruction
2008
Berkshire
NEMBA

Or something to that effect. Maybe make two - one for the top, one for
the bottom. What do you think? Anyone got a router and skills to use
one? I bought one once and couldn't do anything with it.

I'd be willing to stain/paint it after it was done... but even that...
I pretty much suck at. :-)

Brad

I was up at DAR State Forest and NEMBA has done quite a bit of bridge
work up there.  On some of the bridges, they routered "NEMBA" into the
first board on the bridge.  I thought that was really cool.

It got me thinking we should really create a sign for the Turner Trail
which says:

  Turner Trail
Reconstruction
     2008
   Berkshire
     NEMBA

Or something to that effect.  Maybe make two - one for the top, one for
the bottom.  What do you think? Anyone got a router and skills to use
one?  I bought one once and couldn't do anything with it.

I'd be willing to stain/paint it after it was done... but even that...
I pretty much suck at. :-)

Brad

I think I'm going to go up to this.  I'd like to learn about rock
splitting and shaping and some of the other topics.  I think I might
go up to the Millstone Trails on Friday, camp out Friday, go to
school Saturday, camp out, ride Sunday AM, then come home.

If you register at: www.vermonttrailsandgreenways.org before 10/10,
it's $25 (+$4 camping).

Brad.


From: Jen Lamphere <jenniferlamphere@...>
Date: Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 7:15 PM
Subject: Come to the Vermont Trails Symposium October 18th
Hi All,
The 2nd Annual Vermont Trails Symposium is coming up! Join us for
excellent workshops, great food, and a celebration of the trail work
done all across Vermont this season.

When: Saturday, October 18th, 2008
Where: Groton State Forest Nature Center
What: Workshops throughout the day, lunch and awards dinner provided,
and camping for those who want to stay and enjoy the trails on Sunday.

2008 Workshops:
- Trail Design Basics
- Sustainable Mountain Bike Trails
- Rock Splitting and Shaping
- Highline Mechanics
- Measuring Use and Economic Impacts of Trails

Send us your nominations for the 2008 Trails and Greenways Awards:
- David Kingsbury Smith Award to an individual whose dedication has
made a significant contribution to trails in Vermont;
- Green Mountain Award to an organization whose long-term investment
has made a significant contribution to trails in Vermont;
- Project of the Year for excellence and creativity in trail
stewardship;
- Community Enhancement Award for strengthening local trail
opportunities;
- Muddy Boot Award to an individual whose activities as a stewardship
volunteer have improved trail conditions in their area;
- Council Stewardship Award to an individual or group whose
participation in the Vermont Trails and Greenways Council has
contributed to the well-being of the trails community.

For more information, a schedule of events, and registration form, go
to: www.vermonttrailsandgreenways.org.

Looking forward to seeing you there!

Jen Lamphere, Chair
Vermont Trails and Greenways Council

PS Please help us spread the word and forward this announcement to
anyone who might be interested. Thanks!

Have a meeting with the head of Beartowm next Tuesday . Hes been really hard to
find, Hoping for a work and ride late Oct or early Nov . H


--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Brad Herder <brad@...> wrote:

> From: Brad Herder <brad@...>
> Subject: RE: [BerkshireNEMBA] Suggest some music...
> To: BerkshireNEMBA@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 7:35 PM
> Ah - sorry - too late, I picked a couple songs and I'm
> rendering now. Hope
> you like it! :-)
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: BerkshireNEMBA@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BerkshireNEMBA@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of harry meyer
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:32 PM
> To: BerkshireNEMBA@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BerkshireNEMBA] Suggest some music...
>
>
>
> How about Working in a coal mine. Its a 50s tune, or
> something off Oh
> Brother Where Art Thou. Some of those old working songs are
> cool . For Bill
> , Ike and Tina doing Rolling on a river Harry
>
> --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Brad Herder <brad@berkshiresport
> <mailto:brad%40berkshiresports.org> s.org> wrote:
>
> > From: Brad Herder <brad@berkshiresport
> <mailto:brad%40berkshiresports.org>
> s.org>
> > Subject: [BerkshireNEMBA] Suggest some music...
> > To: BerkshireNEMBA@
> <mailto:BerkshireNEMBA%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 12:41 PM
> > Need some music. Two songs:
> >
> > 1. To put to a slideshow of everyone working at the
> trail
> > days.
> >
> > 2. To put to video of Bill Markham riding down the
> Turner.
> >
> > SUGGESTIONS PLEASE!!!

How about Working in a coal mine. Its a 50s tune, or something off Oh Brother
Where Art Thou. Some of those old working songs are cool . For Bill , Ike and
Tina doing Rolling on a river Harry


--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Brad Herder <brad@...> wrote:

> From: Brad Herder <brad@...>
> Subject: [BerkshireNEMBA] Suggest some music...
> To: BerkshireNEMBA@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 12:41 PM
> Need some music.  Two songs:
>
> 1. To put to a slideshow of everyone working at the trail
> days.
>
> 2. To put to video of Bill Markham riding down the Turner.
>
> SUGGESTIONS PLEASE!!!