On Sep 13, 2006, at 10:29 AM, Lawrence Madsen wrote:

> Well, maybe I need to give them another chance. They may be good
> craftsmen, but it was hard to pry much out of them. And the shop
> was so crowded with cycles, even if I caught someone's attention I
> may not have been able to get to them. So I bought a few tubes and
> left.

I think you definitely should give Angle Lake another try. Talk to
Dale and make clear what you want.


On Sep 13, 2006, at 6:20 PM, Don Clore wrote:
> Actually, the last time I was in AngleLake (a week or so ago), Dale
> had a
> Greenspeed X5 on the floor. And I've seen some sort of GS trike in
> there
> for a couple of years; but not any sort of selection - he just
> seems to
> always have one or two.

I think he has an HP Velo Scorpion now, too.


On Sep 13, 2006, at 6:40 AM, Bob Bryant wrote:
> There aren't any TRIKE shops in WA, OR or ID that I know of. It's a
> big
> problem for trike mfrs. Silverdale sells Catrike. Coventry (Portland)
> sells a few brands and there is a recumbent shop in Wenatchee (Go
> Bent?). This black hole for trikes even has had me considering opening
> a shop.

Seems to me high-end trikes are difficult items for a small shop to
stock. They are expensive, so inventory ties up a lot of capital.
Not many people really want a trike, so sales are probably slower
than for comparably-priced bicycles. The return on investment is not
as good as on bicycles.

Also, *in some cases*, because trikes are somewhat novel and the
companies that make them are small and somewhat immature, the
machines may have flaws that the owners find unacceptable given the
small fortunes paid for the product. The dealer ends up taking heat
from the customers over these problems. My wife's Greenspeed had
some stupid flaws along these lines, fenders that rubbed on the tires
being the worst. (Greenspeed (after a year) delivered sensible
fenders and I've fixed the other problems.)

For a recent example of poor work/execution by a manufacturer, Dale
got burned on the Pashley Moulton TSRs he bought. The TSRs had a
variety of problems that it fell to him to fix, sometimes while eager-
becoming-disappointed customers waited in the shop.


> If you want to add a 3x9 Angle Lake or Angletech (mail order,
> Dale's brother Kelvin) are your best choices. Angletech specializes in
> DualDrives and he is the only shop I know who does this.

Angle Lake will do Dual Drives, as well as super cool stuff like
Rohloffs. If I ever make it to a BentPacNW ride y'all can see my
Rohloff Bacchetta. If you've got the dough a Rohloff is hard to
beat. On my B, I used two chainrings with the Rohloff for a gear
range of 17 to 119 inches.

BTW, I've been trying out an HP Velo Spirit with an 8-speed Dual
Drive hub. The DD is very nice.

Bill Gobie