No problems, this is a very sincere group working on a worth while project. While i am very busy with my own projects i would be willing to assist when i can...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 5, 2005 7:10 pm
Dear gentlemen, We need some articles for our files from various hard-to-get sources, that were mentioned in Graham Noble's article on Barton-Wright. If anyone...
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James
jimmy_fatwing
Feb 5, 2005 7:16 pm
Will I've got access to the British Library and a few friends so will see what I can do. Have you emailed Mr Noble to ask him if he would send you a copy of...
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James
jimmy_fatwing
Feb 5, 2005 7:17 pm
As an adjunct, FAI is going to be online soon and they're going to sell their old articles at £1-£3 each I think. Expensive if you ask me but if it's only...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 5, 2005 7:19 pm
That was my next step, James. I've heard he is either reclusive or has no e-mail, but I could be wrong. -Will James <jimmy_fatwing@...> wrote: Will ...
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jason-couch@...
banshay
Feb 5, 2005 7:25 pm
I probably have this one, I'll check today. Jason The second is an interview with BW by Gunji Koizumi in the Budokwai quarterly, Judo, for July 1950....
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 5, 2005 7:31 pm
Dear Gents, I think in theory that Bartitsu can be built up like Legos: Start with the forty techniques left us. Add the jiu-jitsu techniques left us by his...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 5, 2005 8:18 pm
Richard Bowen, President of the Kano Society and VP of the Budokwai, passed away last month. He was a hoplologist interested in early British Judo, and he...
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Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001
Feb 5, 2005 8:48 pm
Hi Will, ... Yes, bearing in mind that many of these are intermediate or advanced techniques in themselves. ... Problematic in that many of these are sport...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 5, 2005 9:10 pm
True, all too true. But 40 techniques out of 300 (according to Noble) is almost none at all. Surely we can estimate some of these techniques. Many styles of...
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Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001
Feb 5, 2005 9:58 pm
Hi Will, ... If we're talking about classical Bartitsu as being restricted to those sequences and individual moves that we know B-W taught, then that shouldn't...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 5, 2005 10:56 pm
I'm with you about the combat. If I want sport, I'll try baseball. My own style of Jiu-jitsu, Shihan ryu, is based on Tenjin Shinyo and Kito, like Judo, but...
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jason-couch@...
banshay
Feb 6, 2005 3:29 am
Uploaded. Jason...
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lone_wolf_92001
Feb 6, 2005 3:49 am
... Solid gold! Thanks - Tony...
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ralph
baritsu6
Feb 6, 2005 1:35 pm
1] first 40 methods then...........2] take something like this 1] left lead jab to face 2] inside edge of boot kick with rear leg to his shin 3] let's say he...
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ralph
baritsu6
Feb 6, 2005 1:37 pm
gents, jason couch and i are mentioned as valuables sources in the new book " pioneers of american jiu jitsu" by hilaire--ralph...
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Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001
Feb 6, 2005 9:21 pm
Hi Ralph, that sounds like a good sequence, but what would you recommend as sources/training just to be able to perform the 40 canonical techniques correctly? ...
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ggrasso06@...
baritsu6
Feb 7, 2005 9:34 am
tony, most japanese/american jiu jitsu course have methods like those, training in one would be enough to get bw's ideas in the first 40, it is only body ...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 7, 2005 1:57 pm
All right!!! Jason comes through!!! -Will jason-couch@... wrote: Uploaded. Jason ... Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: ...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 7, 2005 2:00 pm
Congrats, gents. You earned it. -Will ralph <ggrasso06@...> wrote: gents, jason couch and i are mentioned as valuables sources in the new book " pioneers...
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James
jimmy_fatwing
Feb 7, 2005 4:00 pm
I just put a new article on my site that some of you may be interested in, it goes with the picture I put in the files section last month. Check the "updates"...
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Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001
Feb 8, 2005 7:32 am
... Hi Ralph, yes, but I was wondering which particular skills you thought would be of most value as supplementary or pre-training before learning the 40. If...
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ggrasso06@...
baritsu6
Feb 8, 2005 11:51 am
tony, they would have to start off with the basics of jiu jitsu and saber fencing in my opinion, the 3-4 savate kicks needed can be taught [ for example by a...
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James R. Webb
jimrwebb2001
Feb 8, 2005 3:26 pm
Thought I might chime in. We have rejuvenated one of the older Japanese styles over the past several years  Heike-Ryu Jiu Jitsu. It is the family style of...
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phil matthews
thebristolbloke
Feb 8, 2005 5:14 pm
Hi All, I live a 15 minute train ride away from Bath and am planning on going down to view the collection at some point (Hopefully with another of the list ...
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James
jimmy_fatwing
Feb 8, 2005 5:39 pm
Wasn't that an old DDLR / Apache trick with the cloak.....and I thought you were all Combatives mate ;) James UK ... From: phil matthews (Cloaking device...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 8, 2005 5:50 pm
Lucky you, Phil! I'm jealous. Just keep your eye out for any mention of Barton-Wright and early jiu-jitsu in England. -Will phil matthews...
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Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001
Feb 8, 2005 5:53 pm
Hi Ralph, I agree that we'd need to look closer at an Aikijiujitsu basis than Kano-ryu, at least to develop a foundation for learning the 40. I guess what I'm...
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James
jimmy_fatwing
Feb 8, 2005 5:53 pm
You can search the uni's online library catalogue....all the books passed over by Bowen have "BOW" I think in the catalogue number. James UK ... From: will...
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Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001
Feb 8, 2005 6:01 pm
Hello Jim, congratulations ofn the Heike-ryu rejuvenation, it must have been a very satisfying project. Similarly, I think that to restore the 40 Bartitsu...
