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Bartitsu_Forum · Bartitsu Forum

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6001 gallowglassacad@...
andiesputnik Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
12:59 pm
... From: William Adkins <winkleried@...> To: Bartitsu_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:26 pm Subject: Re: [Bartitsu_Forum] Hutton I...
6002 will thomas
baritsumaster Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
1:51 pm
Really, considering many of us are on the Yahoolists for bata, singlestick, western arts, walkingstick,etc. -Will ... From: William Adkins...
6003 will thomas
baritsumaster Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
1:54 pm
Yes, Castle was a writing chap like me, and tended to embellish on his own. That's also a problem with H. Irving Hancock. -Will ... From:...
6004 will thomas
baritsumaster Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
1:55 pm
Thanks Tony!  I'm definitely going to put him into a story one of these days. -Will ... From: lone_wolf_92001 <lone_wolf_9@...> Subject:...
6005 will thomas
baritsumaster Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
1:59 pm
Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Just wanted you to know that we currently have 365 members. That means if each of you sent us one email a year we'd be busy every...
6006 lone_wolf_92001 Offline Send Email Sep 1, 2008
3:27 pm
... has been shown to be badly flawed in many of his interpretations of historical fencing. Hi Allen, IMO their major impact was the fact that they were...
6007 lone_wolf_92001 Offline Send Email Sep 1, 2008
6:30 pm
First of a series of notes on Richard Bowen's B-W/Tani document, taking advantage of our findings over the past six years and of the Internet, which was not...
6008 Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001 Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
7:27 pm
"As far as it can be presently ascertained Barton-Wright left Japan sometime between January 1897 and October 1898. No trace has been found of him in the...
6009 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
7:35 pm
tony, is there any evidence of change in method or technique? all this is good info but more of an historical nature [not that i do not like this type of ...
6010 Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001 Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
7:59 pm
Hi Ralph, IMO the significant technical changes happened as B-W, Vigny, Tani, Uyenishi and Cherpillod started to cross-train, i.e. 1900-1901. B-W appears to...
6011 Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001 Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
8:12 pm
(SNIP extensive quotations and paraphrasing from the Japan Society lecture, reproduced in the BCI)"In one demonstration Yamamoto had his hands tied and, in a...
6012 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
8:39 pm
In a message dated 9/1/2008 4:29:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lone_wolf_9@... writes: Hi Ralph, IMO the significant technical changes happened as...
6013 ralph
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
9:10 pm
tony, the entire shame of the BARTITSU saga is that the lineage is broken so badly that anything outside of pearsons is guesswork.i was hoping [beyond hope i...
6014 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
9:12 pm
tony, we sort of been over this already, i am talking about the new paperwork , anything new on method?---if not, it is basically all address and timeline[of...
6015 lone_wolf_92001 Offline Send Email Sep 1, 2008
9:14 pm
... address and ... methods?--ralph g No, it's Mr. Bowen's notes on biographical material, timeline etc. re. B-W and Tani. Cheers, Tony...
6016 William Adkins
onesickrodent Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
9:31 pm
Ok I'm going by content by all of these gentlemen. Yes all of them had the standard victorian colonial mindset going on. Put the filters on and work with whats...
6017 William Adkins
onesickrodent Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
9:37 pm
Sweet and Shiny!!!!! Irish Stick Fighting, then Scillian Stiletto, Now possibly Castle and Hutton in a work, only thing that could top that is if ya threw in...
6018 lone_wolf_92001 Offline Send Email Sep 1, 2008
9:47 pm
... Hi Ralph, we do have a good deal of canonical (method/technique) sources other than the Pearsons Magazine articles; Captain Laing's "Bartitsu Stick ...
6019 lone_wolf_92001 Offline Send Email Sep 1, 2008
10:16 pm
... and Hutton in a work, only thing that could top that is if ya threw in some victorian era quarterstaff and let me know the location of the book signing :) ...
6020 lone_wolf_92001 Offline Send Email Sep 1, 2008
10:22 pm
... Just wanted to address this point from another perspective. If we're hoping to find a codified Bartitsu curriculum, in the sense of a set of named...
6021 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
10:40 pm
tony, are we sure that he was not using the japanese gent for a demo[or vica-versa]----i think the wazas play an important part in the bartitsu puzzle because...
6022 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
10:53 pm
agreed, i take it a step further [farther?] , did bartitsu die with wright ? are we dealing with just judo after that? i do not count ddlr or boxing books of...
6023 ralph
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
11:11 pm
members, i think president roosevelt with his cross training would have to be considered a bartitsu [neo] exponet based upon anything after pearsons. he did...
6024 lone_wolf_92001 Offline Send Email Sep 1, 2008
11:11 pm
... demo[or ... Not sure what you mean - they were demonstrating waza, we just don't know of which ryu (or whether it was a combination of several ...
6025 will thomas
baritsumaster Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
11:21 pm
Lol. I'll have to take that into consideration. Made a pilgrimage to the Alamo last year. Is that Bowie enough? -Will ... From: William Adkins...
6026 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
11:24 pm
tony, i am failing to understand , can you explain to me the technical difference between competition jiu jitsu and sport judo---i read of nothing that tani,...
6027 will thomas
baritsumaster Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
11:26 pm
There is more. According to the book BY THE SWORD ... From: lone_wolf_92001 <lone_wolf_9@...> Subject: [Bartitsu_Forum] Re: Hutton To:...
6028 will thomas
baritsumaster Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
11:32 pm
There is more. According to the book BY THE SWORD there was a coterie of writer/swordsmen studying under Hutton, possibly at the Bartitsu School. They were ...
6029 will thomas
baritsumaster Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
11:34 pm
With the Neo qualifier, I agree. -Will ... From: ralph <ggrasso06@...> Subject: [Bartitsu_Forum] neo-bartitsu To: Bartitsu_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date:...
6030 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2008
11:34 pm
tony, i have the first and will of course be piocking up the second, i look at them as victorian martial arts history books and as english judo /physical ...
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