Gentlemen, I am gathering information on H. Irving Hancock for an article. Can anyone direct me to sources other than his actual Jiu-jitsu or fiction books? ...
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James
jimmy_fatwing
Dec 4, 2003 5:11 pm
can't think right now - was he English or American?? did he serve in the military - records maybe at http://www.pro.gov.uk/ James UK ... article. Can anyone...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Dec 9, 2003 6:20 pm
Hancock lived in New York, and was a reporter and writer. He wrote several books on Jiu-jitsu and physical culture, as well as series books in the Horatio...
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ralph
baritsu6
Jan 17, 2004 4:10 pm
gents, the theory of mixing different martial systems during the turn of the century is not rare at all ----in my opinion , in order to rediscover baritsu ,...
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ralph
baritsu6
Jan 17, 2004 4:12 pm
tony, where is this, i thought when i sent it to you, that you were going to post it here, everything o.k.?----ralph...
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ralph
baritsu6
Jan 17, 2004 4:53 pm
1] jabbing a man in his face? 2] low savate kick to the shins? 3] as he doubles up , putting a front choke on him? 4] falling back with a version of...
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ralph
baritsu6
Jan 17, 2004 5:19 pm
gents, i have been researching the old -english texts, -----i think we need to concentrate on 1] tricks of self defence by w.h. collingridge 2] jiu jitsu and...
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Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001
Jan 17, 2004 9:03 pm
Hi Ralph, I owe you, and the list, an apology - I was hoping to have the article scanned and online quickly, but scanner problems and now travel have ...
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craig gemeiner
bootfighters
Jan 19, 2004 4:17 pm
Yes i agree with Ralph the information is there, for those who want to include more JJ ,Renaud's book covers a larger grouping of Jiu Jitsu skills .IMO the...
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ralph
baritsu6
Jan 21, 2004 1:57 pm
i agree with craig , under a good instructor, defendre dans la rue is an excellent system . it provides you withe the basic boxing blows, the easiest low...
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ralph
baritsu6
Jan 21, 2004 11:31 pm
gents, i would guess yes ---for example , craig might do a version that is 80 percent savate , 15 percent stick, 5 percent jiu jitsu [ just an example ] ---i...
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Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001
Jan 22, 2004 11:02 am
Hi Ralph, part of our original brief was the idea of Bartitsu as a multi-levelled art - level one would be Bartitsu itself as a historical reconstruction of ...
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banshay
Jan 22, 2004 3:20 pm
... research while ... Tony, check message #162 on this list, because if you get a chance to pull Pearson's magazine, I'd like to know if there was a third ...
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James
jimmy_fatwing
Jan 23, 2004 2:28 pm
Guys, There was a print on ebay some time ago that had a variety of Bartitsu photos - jujutsu, canne etc Does anyone remember? Anyone know where it was from? ...
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lone_wolf_92001
Jan 23, 2004 3:01 pm
... I think that was discussed on the Western Arts list - it was a newspaper or magazine page with a series of sketches based on a Bartitsu tournament/demo. ...
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jason-couch@...
banshay
Jan 23, 2004 9:09 pm
Not very good resolution, but I just added it to the files, assuming I'm thinking of the same one. I labeled it "In'tl Contests in the Art of Self Defence." ...
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ralph
baritsu6
Jan 28, 2004 9:58 am
gents, came across old judo book [ magazine] from japan --it was of course japanese-it indicated that cagney was going for his 2nd dan ranking in judo/kano jiu...
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James R. Webb
jimrwebb2001
Jan 28, 2004 8:50 pm
Cagney had a black belt in Kodokan Judo - which at the time had very strong jiu jitsu (mostly kito-ryu) overtones. Jim Webb Secretary and Member, National...
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ralph
baritsu6
Jan 28, 2004 9:54 pm
... very strong jiu jitsu (mostly kito-ryu) overtones. ... seems to be very related to the tenshin school of jiu jitsu , kano- ha judo /jiu jitsu had a very...
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ralph
baritsu6
Jan 28, 2004 10:24 pm
gents, being a collector, instructor, student of both jiu jitsu , arnis and a student of western systems, i wanted to make this point clear. if one is teaching...
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James R. Webb
jimrwebb2001
Jan 29, 2004 2:15 am
Ralph, Good comments. I think you are very correct in your observation that the self-defense aspects of judo have been lost in modern times  to an extent. I...
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craig gemeiner
bootfighters
Jan 30, 2004 2:54 am
Ralph , Have ordered Cagney's film on DVD , at $9.00 it's worth having it just for the fight scenes . Hello Jim , I get to travel to Japan each year , are...
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James R. Webb
jimrwebb2001
Jan 30, 2004 6:13 am
Craig, You have to join the Kodokan - which is around US$50. A day pass is around US$8. Other than that, anyone can train there. You will want to ask for ...
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craig gemeiner
bootfighters
Jan 31, 2004 12:54 am
Thanks for the information Jim ,most appreciated. Craig G ... _________________________________________________________________ E-mail just got a whole lot...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 3, 2004 6:21 pm
Thanks to you all for continuing your contributions to the forum, while I've been laid up and working on a final draft of my second novel. You chaps are, as...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 3, 2004 6:51 pm
This is a big question you all have raised. I would agree with Tony's assertion that all Bartitsu begins with BW's original moves. However, I also agree that a...
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ggrasso06@...
baritsu6
Feb 3, 2004 8:48 pm
jiu jitsu had many kicks--you are not off base---ralph...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 4, 2004 12:25 am
Thanks, Ralph. Great to hear from you again. -Will ggrasso06@... wrote: jiu jitsu had many kicks--you are not off base---ralph Yahoo! Groups...
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James
jimmy_fatwing
Feb 4, 2004 12:38 pm
FYI gents..... La Canne – The Walking Stick Method of Self Defence Vol. 2 By Craig Gemeiner http://www.savateaustralia.com I am not going to go into an in...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 6, 2004 8:14 pm
Hi, fellas. I think it necessary to come up with a workable definition of what Bartitsu is. I'm going to throw this out to all of you, and see what changes you...
