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Bartitsu_Forum · Bartitsu Forum

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222 ralph
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2003
5:17 pm
gents, more good stuff------25 lessons in official jiu jitsu as taught in the japanes army and navy including the vital touches methods of vivification and...
223 will thomas
baritsumaster Offline Send Email
May 1, 2003
6:09 pm
This is just a personal opinion, but I believe you have put it rather succinctly. What I think Barton-Wright was faced with was trainingVictorian men to defend...
224 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2003
6:29 pm
will, in my opinion the program i precribed is based on many manuals from the time period and [ importantly] from the thirties and 40's because the authors ...
225 JASON COUCH
banshay Offline Send Email
May 1, 2003
6:50 pm
... Ralph- Is this similar to the stance Edward L. Allen used (American JiuJitsu, 1943)? Jason...
226 Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2003
7:03 pm
Ralph, ... We've previously discussed the idea of a streamed approach: 1 - preserving and re-creating "classical Bartitsu" based closely on B-W's own articles,...
227 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2003
7:27 pm
then perhaps a combo of 1 and 2 would be the way to go--------ralph------his original wazas and then our eclectic idead of where he was going to later...
228 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2003
7:39 pm
jason, that is similiar but different, i also teach that method as well as the blows are directed under the punching arm-------------ralph...
229 will thomas
baritsumaster Offline Send Email
May 1, 2003
7:46 pm
Were we to use pure Tenshin, which itself was part of Kano's Jiu-Jitsu,as a basis for this "new Bartitsu", we would be neglecting the time BWspent learning...
230 will thomas
baritsumaster Offline Send Email
May 1, 2003
8:05 pm
Does anyone have a tenshin manual, or are we cobbling one together from similar moves by fellows like Tani and Raku ( and Mrs. Watts,of course)? -Will ... Do...
231 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
May 1, 2003
9:10 pm
there are several but the two i have that are seldefense tenshin are thornberry and lincks-------ralph...
232 craig gemeiner
bootfighters Offline Send Email
May 2, 2003
12:33 am
Ralph , from "All round self defence" " by Caption H Webb 1903 , " I do mean that by this that one should learn all the Savate blows , a few only are...
233 ralph
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
May 2, 2003
8:46 pm
dear gents, i love this list very much and i will contribute as long as listmembers can stomach me but one thing i have noticed, only the same 5-6 guys...
234 jason-couch@...
banshay Offline Send Email
May 3, 2003
1:38 am
Ralph, I've enjoyed your posts since the Whammer days, so keep it up. Where are you getting your Biddle info, b/c I haven't found anything solid on him. I have...
235 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
May 3, 2003
3:20 am
do you have a 1944 do or die? it says that o'brien was his jiu jitsu instructor , i have biddles philadelphia navy yard judo course-----pretty much matches...
236 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
May 3, 2003
3:24 am
jason, by the way , check the date wasn't okazaki's book on girl's jiu jitsu is from 1929 -----so he already was a prominent instructor------biddle could have...
237 jason-couch@...
banshay Offline Send Email
May 3, 2003
3:29 am
No, only the 1937, although I have heard the 1944 is better. I'll get right on it. A later date would make sense for training with Okazaki, b/c the daughter's...
238 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
May 3, 2003
4:22 am
i do not know how much president teddy studied with o'brien----------i believe biddle studied from him much more------ah , here it is!------looking at the 44...
239 craig gemeiner
bootfighters Offline Send Email
May 3, 2003
12:44 pm
Biddle studied Savate at the Cercle were he learned fencing from M.Serget and Thomas .The Cercle was an exclusive men's (sports) club in Paris the joining fee...
240 craig gemeiner
bootfighters Offline Send Email
May 3, 2003
1:15 pm
From: ggrasso06@... wrote - ... Ralph, A type of cross guard used by Freddie Millers is very briefly mentioned on page 119 of Ned Beauments book " Savage...
241 will thomas
baritsumaster Offline Send Email
May 3, 2003
2:12 pm
Reagarding the "same 5 or 6 guys", perhaps we should get the wordout about Bartitsu a bit better, at schools and tournaments, on thenet, at other Yahoogroups,...
242 Cris-Mariann
cdnronin Offline Send Email
May 3, 2003
7:31 pm
I have a question about Biddle. In his daughter's book, The Happiest Millionaire, she says he travelled to shanghai and trained with Fairbairn. In both the...
243 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
May 3, 2003
9:56 pm
yes, but mine is jiu jitsu origin--------ralph...
244 Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001 Offline Send Email
May 3, 2003
9:59 pm
... A few months ago I put together a hobby website on the Bartitsu theme - http://www.geocities.com/lone_wolf_92001/Index.html . It pre-supposes that we have...
245 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
May 3, 2003
10:00 pm
i do not have any positive proof [ maybe carl does] but why not? what reason does the daughter have to lie? after all biddle was always traveling the world...
246 Cris-Mariann
cdnronin Offline Send Email
May 4, 2003
3:28 pm
I found two very different reviews of Percy Longhurst's book Judo and Ju Jitsu. Here,http://bestjudo.com/brjujutsuandjudo.shtml , it is described as a blatant...
247 will thomas
baritsumaster Offline Send Email
May 5, 2003
3:31 pm
If the Hancock text (Complete Kano Jiu-Jitsu, etc.) is actually Tenshin, what is the earliest Jiudo text available? Since the style evolved so much, I would...
248 will thomas
baritsumaster Offline Send Email
May 5, 2003
3:33 pm
Didn't Tani write a book? Does anyone own a copy? If so, it would be theclosest to BW's jiu-jitsu elements as possible. -Will ... Do you Yahoo!? The New...
249 ralph
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
May 5, 2003
7:55 pm
dear tony, article went out today airmail---7-9 working days from new york-----will , some of those books are on abebooks. com and are purely judo-----esp....
250 Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001 Offline Send Email
May 6, 2003
12:02 am
... Thanks, looking forward to it. Do you have any thoughts on the prototype Bartistu Society website? Tony ...
251 ggrasso06@...
baritsu6 Offline Send Email
May 6, 2003
12:49 am
tony, once again , just my opinion----i do not know if do the waza from pearsons is where barton wright was really going , it might have been what he thought...
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