Uniform, eh ... I reckon the Victorian Jiujitsu outfit would certainly work for the grappling component, and perhaps something based on Vigny's fencing kit for...
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Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001
Jan 1, 2003 10:49 pm
Hi Will, I've only ever thought of B-W's art as "Bartitsu," and I think that should be our most public face. How about including "Baritsu" in the keyword ...
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lone_wolf_92001
Jan 2, 2003 12:04 am
... how about typical Victorian/Edwardian gym kit as the basic uniform? This would be either tights or fencing-type pants, T-shirt or singlet, waist-sash and...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Jan 3, 2003 5:07 pm
One of the jiu-jutsu texts I have from that time included a pair of judo pants that had been altered to tie just below the knee, like fencing pants. It was the...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Jan 3, 2003 10:48 pm
So, should I change the name of this group to 'The Bartitsu Study Group' or 'The Bartitsu Society', or 'The Bartitsu School', or what-have-you? Or would you...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Jan 4, 2003 3:43 am
Actually I like the name 'Bartitsu Forum' the best, 'a forum for studying Bartitsu,the first Asian martial art in the West, and related Victorian fighting...
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banshay
Jan 4, 2003 3:57 am
"Bartitsu, the first Asian martial art in the West..." Probably not true, although it may be a mainly semantical disagreement. Jason...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Jan 5, 2003 2:06 am
Yoy may be right, there, Jason. the first Asian Martial Art TAUGHT in the West? I suppose it may depend on what you may consider Asian. -Will ...
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Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001
Jan 5, 2003 10:36 pm
... Another note is that Bartitsu was actually an eclectic art, combining Asian and European systems. Tony ...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Jan 6, 2003 3:17 am
Agreed. If we DID rename this the Bartitsu Forum, how would you describe it? ... Another note is that Bartitsu was actually an eclectic art, combining Asian ...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Jan 6, 2003 7:47 pm
Have any of you ever met Graham Noble? Does anyone have BW's interview with Mary Nugent? -Will ... Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus -...
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Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001
Jan 6, 2003 10:45 pm
Hi Will, ... I've corresponded with him. ... Yes :) Tony _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Jan 7, 2003 5:37 pm
According to this website, BW was a Tenshin student. It doesn't mention his time with Jigaro Kano, however. I cannot vouch for the reliability of the...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Jan 22, 2003 12:23 am
The Baritsu Study Group has a new name, the Bartitsu Forum, reflecting our interest in Victorian martial arts and the work of E. W. Barton-Wright. Come join...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Jan 22, 2003 6:57 pm
I've been told to take John Clements's article on historical fencing with a grain of salt ( http://www.thehaca.com/essays/BritLegacy.htm). For example, I find...
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lone_wolf_92001
Jan 24, 2003 10:49 pm
Hi all, I've already answered this post on the Western Arts forum, but for the benefit of those (few?) here who are not also members of that list - ... fencing...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 1, 2003 9:34 pm
There has been some usage of the word 'koryu39; (old school or old tradition) in various e-mails. I've been guilty of using it myself. According to Dave Lowry, ...
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banshay
Feb 15, 2003 4:00 am
According to these (Revue Olympique), Armand Cherpillod was a professor at the Bartitsu Club in 1901: ...
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Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001
Feb 15, 2003 10:28 am
Jason, ... well spotted! Cherpillod represented the Swiss wrestling style in a mixed-styles match promoted by B-W at his 1902 tournament - ...
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Tony Wolf
lone_wolf_92001
Feb 15, 2003 10:55 am
... written in the late '20s ... UN CHAMPION – ARMAND CHERPILLOD (Abel Vaucher; Delacoste & Borgeaud, 1929). Deuxième édition. Rare biographie d'un...
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banshay
Feb 15, 2003 1:46 pm
Tony- Do you possess, and intend to web, the Transactions of the Japan Society article? I ask simply because I won't bother trying to dig it up if you are ...
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lone_wolf_92001
Feb 18, 2003 9:17 pm
... Society ... you are ... possess it, ... Jason, sorry for the delay - no, I don't have that article but I'd like to read it. The only Bartitsu material in...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 18, 2003 11:07 pm
I'll get right on it. ... Society ... you are ... possess it, ... Jason, sorry for the delay - no, I don't have that article but I'd like to read it. The only...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 18, 2003 11:45 pm
No luck, I'm afraid. WorldCat, the international library catalog, does not list either book, but as the site said, they are rare. Also, I believe the Cat is...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 19, 2003 3:22 am
This is an open appeal to all you martial artists, in England especially. We're looking for information on E. W. Barton-Wright. There has to be more...
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lone_wolf_92001
Feb 20, 2003 10:49 pm
All going well I should be receiving a copy of Longhurst's "Jiujitsu and Other Forms of Self Defence" in a few weeks. Someone on the Western Arts list pointed...
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banshay
Feb 21, 2003 3:36 am
PREFACE the ability to defend oneself successfully against sudden attack anywhere and at any time is of prime importance to all, and therefore the Author ...
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lone_wolf_92001
Feb 21, 2003 6:29 am
Thanks, Jason. You are a useful fellow to have around :) ... England ... of the ... jitsu ... lived a ... exercise in ... cities of ... art, ... purposes ... ...
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will thomas
baritsumaster
Feb 22, 2003 7:01 pm
I found the following site in French, while searching through Google: http://perso.club-internet.fr/efauroux/judoboulogne/ffjda1.htm It mention two Frenchmen,...
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banshay
Feb 23, 2003 2:52 am
... Hmm... I'm not exactly sure how to answer that. His chapter "Simple Tricks of Self-Defence" is about 20 pages long and includes maybe a handful of pages...