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Re: Idler problem and question

Hi Greg,

Nice to see a message from you. Mike and I have exchanged a few
emails back and forth. As you are probably aware, he bought my Trice
XXL earlier this year. Anyway, back to the idler question. Since I
couldn't see what was happening when I was riding, I put the bike on
my Sportscrafter Mini Rollers and turned the crank by hand. The idler
did not make the noise so I loaded the seat up with some weighted
bags to simulate my body. It made the cranks harder to turn but the
noise showed up. It was definitely coming from the power idler. I
could find no reason why; the idler was spinning freely and was not
touching the seat or anything else. In an act of desperation, I
removed the idler and took it apart to see if there was an internal
problem. I couldn't find anything wrong so I made sure that
everything was clean, reassembled it and put it back on the bike.
Whatever I did, it worked. The noise was gone! I have since
developed a similar but slightly different noise that seems to happen
under certain pedalling conditions. My guess is that it is the lower
return idler bracket. I have the TerraCycle idler attached to the
stock idler bracket which is attached to the bike as part of the seat
mount. I have found that when I ride, the idler apparently gets
enough pressure from the chain to pull at the bracket and lightly
loosen the bolt that attaches it to the bike. The bracket is then
free to move back and forth in a small arc inside the seat mount. I
think that is what is causing this new noise as it only seems to
happen when I am applying extra (and usually uneven) pressure on the
pedals. Most often during sprinting or hill climbing. I have one leg
slightly longer than the other, hence the uneven pedalling style at
certain times. The noise doesn't happen when I'm just cruising along
nice and steady. I think I will try putting some blue Loctite on the
bolt threads to see if this will hold it tight and, hopefully, stop
the noise.

Stephen





Tue Sep 9, 2008 8:57 pm

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Hi Everyone, I recently purchased a new Baron from BentUp Cycles. I wanted to run the stock chain configuration but I did replace the stock idlers with a full...
tennbent
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Jul 23, 2008
2:25 am

Your suspicions are very plausible. On the Seiran SL, there was a certain light chain tension that would allow the chain to be bumped down off the idler and on...
PaulW
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Jul 23, 2008
11:37 am

Stephen, Do you have a Baron X-low or a regular Baron? I have a regular Baron with a full set of Terracycle idlers (both Power and Return sides) and...
Joe Landen
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Jul 23, 2008
1:31 pm

I'm fairly new to recumbents, I have had my used Baron for about a month now. Where are the "O" rings on the Optima idlers? I'm wondering if it was worn out...
Craig Dinger
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Jul 24, 2008
1:32 pm

The O-ring would be between the chain and the idler groove. If there's no O-ring there, the chain probably ate through the rubber and the chain rolls against...
tentacle23
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Jul 24, 2008
2:29 pm

Ok, thanks. So a single O ring on each idler. Can they be replaced with generic O rings from the hardware store? Craig To: BaronOwners@yahoogroups.com From:...
Craig Dinger
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Jul 24, 2008
10:33 pm

I don't see why not. That said, I only noticed my O-ring missing when I switched to Terracycle idlers... ... with generic O rings from the hardware store? ... ...
tentacle23
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Jul 24, 2008
11:18 pm

I would check to see if the o rings are compatible with your chain lubricant or they may swell up like Paul said. I'm not sure that they stay on for long...
Robert Lee
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Jul 25, 2008
1:51 pm

... Stephen, I can't see how you could have any slippage of the chain on the power idler while pedaling. The power idler should offer almost no resistance &...
lee0way
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Jul 23, 2008
2:03 pm

Stephen Could you post some pics of your set up? I had a similar problem that ended up being the chain rubbing under the front of the seat. I had installed a...
Bryan McNamara
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Jul 23, 2008
8:01 pm

Thanks to those that have replied so far. I have managed to stop the noise for now. To recap, I am utilizing the stock chainkeeper and tube assembly in...
tennbent
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Jul 23, 2008
10:59 pm

Tennbent, I bought the orange Baron and My brother Mike bought the White Baron from Bentupcycles. I have the same triple as you. Bentupcycles replaced what...
Greg Billesbach
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Sep 7, 2008
10:51 pm

Greg, I am using Terracycle's power side & return Idlers on my Baron. I originally purchased the power side idler by itself because the return idler kit was...
Robert Lee
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Sep 8, 2008
1:12 pm

Hi Greg, Nice to see a message from you. Mike and I have exchanged a few emails back and forth. As you are probably aware, he bought my Trice XXL earlier...
tennbent
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Sep 9, 2008
8:57 pm

Thanks everyone. I finally got it. No noise now from the Terracyle power side idler and everything is good. I ended up with the following config. Terracycle...
Greg Billesbach
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Sep 10, 2008
9:20 pm

The O ring fits in a groove around the power idler (under the seat.) You can buy and fit new ones but mine lasted less than 100 kms before they swelled up,...
PaulW
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Jul 25, 2008
11:24 am

I fitted a Terracycle idler and dropped the chain (removed the return side idlers.) As mentioned, the original chain keeper and tube attachment is removed. I...
PaulW
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