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Re: [BaronOwners] Re: X-low vs. regular

Sjef writes:
>
> The older (X-low) versions had some problems with the frame at the
> site of the headset and they have been taken care of.
>

The head tube area has been beefed up in later Barons, but when my (older)
frame developed cracks this spring, it had no fewer than 5 of them, all along
welds, and the head tube was only one of them. All 4 stays had cracks on the
underside. My son, who is a materials engineer, took one look at it and
concluded they were all in the heat affected zone and were the result of
IMPROPER CONSTRUCTION (his words.) Aluminum loses a significant portion of its
strength when it's welded and it should be heat treated to restore the
strength. My son had some other choice words about a frame maker who would
abuse its customer base by cost-cutting in this manner.

I suggest that everyone with a Baron that's more than, say, 2 years old,
inspect the welds on the underside of the bike - the stays as well as the head
tube. It would be interesting to see if any others have cracks along the edges
of the welds.





Mon Sep 4, 2006 3:13 am

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I've been knocking around the idea of either upgrading or trading in the Baron for a few months now. I bought a p-38 for commuting and/or purposes where I...
aikigreg
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Aug 29, 2006
8:54 pm

Greg, If what you are really after is speed, it seems that you have already answered your own question. You have a practical bike that you like, so why not...
david neilson
daveandtomo
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Aug 30, 2006
12:20 am

It's just SO...MUCH....MONEY :) That's likely my biggest hesitation. , honestly....
aikigreg
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Aug 31, 2006
1:04 am

Dave Your having owned both a Baron and an XLow Baron, what was the speed difference between them? Were they both equally suitable for Audax, for example?...
jeremytoyne
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Aug 31, 2006
10:46 am

Jeremy, The X-low version was certainly faster, perhaps by one kph or so, all else being equal. Both are equally easy to ride. I also liked the fact that the...
david neilson
daveandtomo
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Aug 31, 2006
3:14 pm

The X-low is a bit faster indeed, and as Dave says: you can easily touch the ground with your hands when standing still. Both versions are easily to handle....
petdoctor2
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Sep 1, 2006
12:05 pm

I am not sure about the newer version, but older X-lows have no mounts for idlers to route the chain over the wheel. They intended it as a race bike, so down...
david neilson
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Sep 1, 2006
3:27 pm

... The head tube area has been beefed up in later Barons, but when my (older) frame developed cracks this spring, it had no fewer than 5 of them, all along ...
John Foltz
blazingpedals
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Sep 4, 2006
3:23 am

One other thing to consider is if a crack is an actual frame or paint crack, mine for instance is the version that is reinforced on the bottom (2002 frame?)...
mark_leuck
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Sep 6, 2006
12:41 am

... Received: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 08:41:51 PM EDT From: "mark_leuck" <m.leuck@...> To: BaronOwners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BaronOwners] Re: X-low vs....
John Foltz
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Sep 7, 2006
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