In a nutshell, it was a balmy, warm day in KC with overcast skies,
light rain, and 48 degrees. Barefoot Bart and Rick showed up for the
first year's running of the annual event:

http://barefootrunner.org/05pbrun.htm

Happy New Year to you, Rick -- thanks for the inspiration!

-- Jerry

On 1 Jan 2005 at 0:11, Barefoot Rick Roeber wrote:



Yearly Mileage: 2257 Miles

Barefoot: 2009 Miles
Shoes: 186 Miles
Sandals: 61 Miles

Six Barefoot Marathons (actually 5.75 since I ran part of Boston with
sandals)

Two Barefoot 5Ks:

Lee's Summit Night Flight 5K
Time: 20:36
Pace: 6:39
AG 45-49: 7th Place

Run for the Summit 5K
Time: 21:53
Pace: 7:04 pace
AG 45-49: 1st Place

Most importantly, have met some wonderful barefooters both online
and
in person. Happy Barefoot New Year, ya'll!





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Yearly Mileage: 2257 Miles

Barefoot: 2009 Miles
Shoes: 186 Miles
Sandals: 61 Miles

Six Barefoot Marathons (actually 5.75 since I ran part of Boston with
sandals)

Two Barefoot 5Ks:

Lee's Summit Night Flight 5K
Time: 20:36
Pace: 6:39
AG 45-49: 7th Place

Run for the Summit 5K
Time: 21:53
Pace: 7:04 pace
AG 45-49: 1st Place

Most importantly, have met some wonderful barefooters both online and
in person. Happy Barefoot New Year, ya'll!

well ... I guess I could count the .25 mile impromptu run in New
Orleans City Park on their rubberized track. My wife and I were
wandering around the park on Tuesday night, looking at their
Christmas light display, and we came upon a midnight clear .. uh I
mean a track. I kicked off the huaraches and ran a loop in the pitch
black.

I did surgery on my right heel while in New Orleans. I have had a
localized pain in the center of my right heel since November's
Mountain Home Marathon. I did some digging and found a small piece of
glass embedded under the skin. I guess the skin had just grown over
it. After my self-operation, I put Neosporin on it, band-aided it for
the night and next day ... it was a miracle! No more pain (duh!).

So, today's short, 3 mile run was wonderful. My feet have had some
R&R and were ready to get back out there. Now, I just need to lose
the 10 lbs. I've picked up the last couple of weeks from all the rich
food.

Ended my week of running on Thursday with 36 miles for the week. Have
taken off 3 days of running since I made my 2000 mile barefoot goal
for the year:

http://barefootrunner.org/2004weeklymileage/weeklyending12-26-04.htm

With today's 5 mile run, I broke 2,000 barefoot miles for 2004. (With
my shoe and sandal running, I am at about 2,250 miles.)

Still cold:

Temp: 15°F
Wind Chill: 4°F
Wind: N at 8 mph

I think the coldest day I ran last winter was 17 degrees and I
believe it was 4 or 5 miles.

Here's today's run:

10.02 miles
Time: 1:31:24
Pace: 9:07

3 miles wood chip trail
7 miles concrete/asphalt
Temp: 13°F
Wind Chill: 0°F
Wind: N at 10 mph

Ended the week with 7 miles today. Not much wind, only 9 mph, but the
temp was 15 degrees which made the real feel temp 3 degrees:

http://barefootrunner.org/2004weeklymileage/weeklyending12-19-04.htm

Broke 50 miles for the first time in several weeks. Back when I used
to run with shoes, I thought to run less than 70 miles a week was
pathetic for me. Since I have been barefooting, I feel that 30 to 50
miles a week is plenty.

http://www.barefootrunner.org/2004weeklymileage/weeklyending12-12-
04.htm

Link to report:

http://www.barefootrunner.org/reports/dwr04/04report.htm

Inline version:

The Dallas White Rock Marathon has to be one of my favorite
marathons. Must be why this was my 4th time to Run the Rock. It is
well-organized, scenic, with lots of crowd support. For me, it is a
great way to end the marathon season! The added excitement began for
me on Saturday 12/4 when the Dallas Morning News contacted me to do
an article on my proposed barefoot marathon the following Sunday. The
article ran on Friday 12/10 and, in my opinion, was a positive piece
of work by Debbie Fetterman regarding the benefits of barefoot
running. Thanks Debbie! (See ARTICLE.)

Saturday 12/11, I was contacted by Lisa Ann McCall. She is the
barefoot physical therapist quoted in the article. She said that the
NBC affiliate wanted to interview us before the race. I agreed to
meet her the next morning at 7:30 a.m.

Pre-race, I did a short interview with Channel 5 and then lined up
for the start. It was going to heat up rather quickly to 74 degrees
later in the day, but the start was about 47. The F-18 flyover was
fantastic during the Star-spangled banner.

The first 10 miles of the course was well-supported with throngs of
well-wishers. It was fun greeting them as I kept about a 9 minute
pace. Lot's of the usual comments like "Where's your shoes? Doesn't
that hurt? etc. I got to talk to several folks along the way about
barefoot running, which is always nice.

The only really "barefoot unfriendly" portion of the course was a
mile stretch about mile 13. It was broken asphalt which was gravel-
laden in various parts.

At about mile 21, Lisa McCall joined me, running barefoot of course!
She ran with me to very near the finish line and then bailed out.
(It's always good to have more than one barefooter in a field of
10,000 to add legitimacy to what you're doing!)

Not a barefoot PR, but it was my second fastest barefoot marathon:

(SEE STATS)

Chip Time - 4:01:46.2
Gun Time - 4:03:15.9

I was in my pickup at 12:30, starting my 8 hour drive back to Kansas
City. Arrived home about 8:30 and hit the sack shortly after. It was
a long, but fulfilling day!

Thanks, Ken.  The mind boggles!  :)

-- Jerry

On 13 Dec 2004 at 0:18, Ken Bob Saxton wrote:



Read the full story at:
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?
page=pro&story_id=120604c2_marathon

if that link doesn't work (you can also paste it together);
http://www.runningbarefoot.org/
and follow the "read more..." link

5:25 (5 minutes and 25 seconds!) is Soro's average pace per mile.
1037
was his bib number, though I'm surprised that, after winning Tucson
5
years in a row, they didn't give him number "1".

And no, not entirely in barefeet. Soro ran the first 14 miles this
year with shoes on. Which, as Rick mentioned, were slowing him
down.
Soro's half-marathon split was 1:13:48 (2:27:36 pace), making his
second half, in bare feet, an amazing 1:08:33! Last year, Soro
started
running with shoes, to keep his sponsors happy. This year, he knew
he
wouldn't win, with shoes on.

These are Soro's times for each of his 6 Tucson Marathons:
2004 2:22:21, with shoes (14 miles), barefoot (12.2 miles)
2003 2:22:12, with shoes
2002 2:20:38, barefoot
2001 2:20:00, barefoot
2000 2:18:32, barefoot
1999, 2:25:02, barefoot

Though I'm nowhere close to Soro's pace, or Abebe Bikila's 2:15 (in
bare feet, at the Rome Olympics in 1960), I can certainly understand
about being able to run faster and more comfortably without shoes.
Despite what any shoe commercial tries to make us believe, no
credible
expert can say shoes will make us run faster. I find it absolutely
amazing how fast some people can run, despite wearing shoes!
Imagine
the possiblilities, if they got rid of the dead weight, that numbs
their natural ability to run well . . .

-barefoot ken bob


> Jerry Griffin <jerryg@c...> wrote:
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> First, do you really mean it, a 2:22 marathon in bare feet?
>
> Second, what are those other numbers -- 5:25 and 1037?
>
> Thanks!






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Read the full story at:
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?
page=pro&story_id=120604c2_marathon

if that link doesn't work (you can also paste it together);
http://www.runningbarefoot.org/
and follow the "read more..." link

5:25 (5 minutes and 25 seconds!) is Soro's average pace per mile.
1037 was his bib number, though I'm surprised that, after winning
Tucson 5 years in a row, they didn't give him number "1".

And no, not entirely in barefeet. Soro ran the first 14 miles this
year with shoes on. Which, as Rick mentioned, were slowing him down.
Soro's half-marathon split was 1:13:48 (2:27:36 pace), making his
second half, in bare feet, an amazing 1:08:33! Last year, Soro
started running with shoes, to keep his sponsors happy. This year, he
knew he wouldn't win, with shoes on.

These are Soro's times for each of his 6 Tucson Marathons:
2004 2:22:21, with shoes (14 miles), barefoot (12.2 miles)
2003 2:22:12, with shoes
2002 2:20:38, barefoot
2001 2:20:00, barefoot
2000 2:18:32, barefoot
1999, 2:25:02, barefoot

Though I'm nowhere close to Soro's pace, or Abebe Bikila's 2:15 (in
bare feet, at the Rome Olympics in 1960), I can certainly understand
about being able to run faster and more comfortably without shoes.
Despite what any shoe commercial tries to make us believe, no
credible expert can say shoes will make us run faster. I find it
absolutely amazing how fast some people can run, despite wearing
shoes! Imagine the possiblilities, if they got rid of the dead
weight, that numbs their natural ability to run well . . .

-barefoot ken bob


> Jerry Griffin <jerryg@c...> wrote:
>
> First, do you really mean it, a 2:22 marathon in bare feet?
>
> Second, what are those other numbers -- 5:25 and 1037?
>
> Thanks!

Sorry about the login problem on the Dallas Morning News. I forgot
about that. I put a PDF of the article on my website:

http://barefootrunner.org/reports/dwr04/04dwrmart.pdf

Some good publicity for barefoot running.

(Note: One personal error that I noticed - I heard about
runningbarefoot.org in October 2003 not March 2003. Other than that,
I loved the affirmation for what we do from PT McCall.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/running/whiterock/stor
ies/121004dnsporocklede.5d3ac.html

Cheers!

BR

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Solemates: Barefoot marathoners see shoes as arch enemy

02:40 AM CST on Friday, December 10, 2004


By DEBBIE FETTERMAN / Special Contributor to The Dallas Morning News



Rick Roeber of Lee's Summit, Mo., will run his fourth Dallas White
Rock Marathon on Sunday. This one will be unlike his first three.

Roeber plans to run the entire 26.2-mile course barefoot.

Becoming a barefoot marathoner renewed Roeber's passion for running.
He said he now runs without chronic knee pain. He posted a personal
best within two months of taking up barefoot running.

"It added a whole new dimension," said Roeber, 48, who attended
Arlington Sam Houston and still has family in the area. "I've always
loved running, but something was missing. I'm having a blast now."

He struggled to express in words exactly why.

"It's a zen thing," he said. "It's great feeling the earth underneath
you or the asphalt or the grass. It's the same thing as working with
gloves. You feel clumsy, and you can't feel what you're doing. Our
appendages were made to feel."


BarefootRunner.org
Through his Web site, Ken Saxton (left) helped turn on Rick Roeber to
the joys of running barefoot. Dallas physical therapist and barefoot
runner Lisa Ann McCall said our bodies have receptors in the feet and
ankles that pick up information on how to move – when not encumbered
by shoes. She said she uses barefoot running as a preventative and
rehabilitation tool for her runners.

Others question whether the potential benefits of barefoot running
could outweigh the risks. There are the obvious dangers of puncture
wounds caused from foreign objects lodging in one's foot.

Dallas-area podiatrist Roy Ashton said the technology in running
shoes provides shock absorption missing from bare feet. Ashton said
people come down with five to six times their body weight on their
feet. He said he wouldn't recommend barefoot marathon running to
anyone.

"Obviously, people do amazing things," he said. "There are the polar
bear club members that swim in freezing water. There are people who
ski barefoot. I'd put this in that category."

McCall said that she has research showing that the intrinsic muscles
of the foot are designed to absorb the vertical force that comes from
the ground up through the body.

"When we wear shoes, the intrinsic muscles do not get a chance to
work as they were designed," she said. "The bone and connective
tissue of the foot absorb the force, which results oftentimes in
stress fractures and plantar fasciitis," an inflammation of the
bottom of the foot.

Roeber said shoeless runners have posted world-class marks over the
years. Ethiopia's Abebe Bikila, considered one of the greatest
Olympic marathoners, won the 1960 gold medal in a world record two
hours, 15 minutes, 17 seconds running barefoot in Rome. He never
meant to run that race barefoot, said Dr. Robert Vaughan, exercise
physiologist at the Baylor Tom Landry Center. His shoes had not shown
up. In 1964, he won the Olympic gold in Tokyo with another world
record (2:12:11.2) while wearing shoes.

Zola Budd, another famous barefoot runner, set a track world record
in the 5,000 meters (15:01.83) in January 1984.

Roeber hadn't considered running barefoot until March 2003. Surfing
the Internet, he found a reference from a woman about a "Jesus
lookalike" running barefoot past her at the Long Beach Marathon.
Roeber's curiosity was piqued.

He learned the runner was Ken Saxton, a longtime barefoot marathoner.
He corresponded with Saxton and read everything he could on Saxton's
Web site, www.runningbarefoot.org.

Initially, Roeber considered all the money he would save not buying
$80 shoes every few months. Then he recalled how much he enjoyed
running barefoot as a kid. Saxton's Web site also noted that running
barefoot reduced Saxton's knee and leg pain.

For Roeber, who has run five marathons barefoot, the story is much
the same. His chronic knee pain disappeared. He said he thinks his
shock-absorbing shoes masked symptoms.

"The feet act like a regulator," said Roeber, who has a Web site of
his own – BarefootRunner .org. "I get instant sensory feedback. The
shoe companies make shoes too good. You don't get that feedback."

Further, barefoot running helps people land on the middle of their
feet, preventing them from having heel strikes, McCall said. This is
more biomechanically correct, she said.

McCall said the skin of the foot toughens up over time. Vaughan says
that barefoot running, adopted slowly and on safe surfaces, can
strengthen the feet.

"We didn't creep out of the primordial ooze onto concrete," Vaughan
said. "It was a softer surface."

First, do you really mean it, a 2:22 marathon in bare feet?

Second, what are those other numbers -- 5:25 and 1037?

Thanks!

On 8 Dec 2004 at 9:01, Ken Saxton wrote:


Tucson Marathon, Bassirima Soro wins again!

It was close! Really, really close for the man who has won this race
in his bare feet in 1999, 2000, 2001, and 2002. In 2003, Soro began
racing in shoes to make sponsors happy. It appears that those
shoes,
while keeping his sponsors happy, may have slowed Soro down by
nearly
2 minutes in the 2003 Tucson Marathon. Still, not enough slower,
then,
to prevent him from winning. But, with Soro's 1st place finish, in
2004, less than one second ahead of second place, Peter Vail of
Washington, D.C. ,if Soro wants to maintain his winning streak in
Tucson he may need to lose his shoes again for 2005!

1 0 1 Bassirima Soro M 35 Tucson 2:22:21 5:25 1037
2 0 2 Peter Vail M 30 Washington DC 2:22:21 5:25 1115


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First, do you really mean it, a 2:22 marathon in bare feet?

Second, what are those other numbers  -- 5:25 and 1037?

Thanks!

On 8 Dec 2004 at 9:01, Ken Saxton wrote:


Tucson Marathon, Bassirima Soro wins again!

It was close! Really, really close for the man who has won this race
in his bare feet in 1999, 2000, 2001, and 2002. In 2003, Soro began
racing in shoes to make sponsors happy. It appears that those
shoes,
while keeping his sponsors happy, may have slowed Soro down by
nearly
2 minutes in the 2003 Tucson Marathon. Still, not enough slower,
then,
to prevent him from winning. But, with Soro's 1st place finish, in
2004, less than one second ahead of second place, Peter Vail of
Washington, D.C. ,if Soro wants to maintain his winning streak in
Tucson he may need to lose his shoes again for 2005!

1 0 1 Bassirima Soro M 35 Tucson 2:22:21 5:25 1037
2 0 2 Peter Vail M 30 Washington DC 2:22:21 5:25 1115


--
Barefoot Ken Bob, AKA: The Barefoot Runner
I don't need no stinkin' shoes!
Have feet, will travel.
http://www.RunningBarefoot.org/



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Note correction: Start Time is 4:30pm -ken (sorry 'bout that)

Anyone welcome
shoes optional (but not recommended if you want to share the experience
with your soles)

Sunset Beach Low-Tide Fun Run
Date: December, 12 Sunday 4:30pm (low-tide at 5:04pm)
Start Time: 4:30pm
Distance: 4 miles (more if you like)
Support: restrooms and water near the parking area
Location: Pacific Coast Hwy at Warner, near the bus turnaround and near
Jack-in-the-Box (map @ mapquest.com)
City: Sunset Beach, Ca.
Parking: Plenty of parking in Bolsa Chica State Park (State Park Permit
accepted) and free parking behind Jack-in-the-Box in Sunset Beach
Run, Swim, Enjoy the sunset, then soak in a hot-tub. (Quadrathlon?)

Run at the edge of the water. North to the end of Sunset Beach, past
Surfside, to the jetty at the mouth of Huntington Harbor (about 2 miles),
touch the blarney stones on the jetty, turn around and run back. Finish
running and relax for a beautiful Sunset, on the beach, at Sunset Beach. Or
run slowly and enjoy the sunset as you run.

If anyone wants to run more than 4 miles, keep running South, past Warner,
on Bolsa Chica State Beach, as far as you want. Then turn around and run
back, (unless you have a ride waiting for you someplace in Huntington Beach).

Jacuzzi and Swimming pool available at Ken's after the run.

http://www.runningbarefoot.org/SunsetBeachLowTideFunRun.shtml

--
Barefoot Ken Bob, AKA: The Barefoot Runner
I don't need no stinkin' shoes!
Have feet, will travel.
http://www.RunningBarefoot.org/

Tucson Marathon, Bassirima Soro wins again!

It was close! Really, really close for the man who has won this race in his
bare feet in 1999, 2000, 2001, and 2002. In 2003, Soro began racing in
shoes to make sponsors happy. It appears that those shoes, while keeping
his sponsors happy, may have slowed Soro down by nearly 2 minutes in the
2003 Tucson Marathon. Still, not enough slower, then, to prevent him from
winning. But, with Soro's 1st place finish, in 2004, less than one second
ahead of second place, Peter Vail of Washington, D.C. ,if Soro wants to
maintain his winning streak in Tucson he may need to lose his shoes again
for 2005!

1 0 1 Bassirima Soro M 35 Tucson 2:22:21 5:25 1037
2 0 2 Peter Vail M 30 Washington DC 2:22:21 5:25 1115


--
Barefoot Ken Bob, AKA: The Barefoot Runner
I don't need no stinkin' shoes!
Have feet, will travel.
http://www.RunningBarefoot.org/

Anyone welcome
shoes optional (but not recommended if you want to share the experience
with your soles)

Sunset Beach Low-Tide Fun Run
Date: December, 12 Sunday 4:30pm (low-tide at 5:04pm)
Start Time: 5:30pm
Distance: 4 miles (more if you like)
Support: restrooms and water near the parking area
Location: Pacific Coast Hwy at Warner, near the bus turnaround and near
Jack-in-the-Box (map @ mapquest.com)
City: Sunset Beach, Ca.
Parking: Plenty of parking in Bolsa Chica State Park (State Park Permit
accepted) and free parking behind Jack-in-the-Box in Sunset Beach
Run, Swim, Enjoy the sunset, then soak in a hot-tub. (Quadrathlon?)

Run at the edge of the water. North to the end of Sunset Beach, past
Surfside, to the jetty at the mouth of Huntington Harbor (about 2 miles),
touch the blarney stones on the jetty, turn around and run back. Finish
running and relax for a beautiful Sunset, on the beach, at Sunset Beach. Or
run slowly and enjoy the sunset as you run.

If anyone wants to run more than 4 miles, keep running South, past Warner,
on Bolsa Chica State Beach, as far as you want. Then turn around and run
back, (unless you have a ride waiting for you someplace in Huntington Beach).

Jacuzzi and Swimming pool available at Ken's after the run.

http://www.runningbarefoot.org/SunsetBeachLowTideFunRun.shtml

--
Barefoot Ken Bob, AKA: The Barefoot Runner
I don't need no stinkin' shoes!
Have feet, will travel.
http://www.RunningBarefoot.org/

It was 11 years, after my first marathon, and only marathon lifting
shoes (more than 40,000 times), before I felt ready to run another
marathon, this time barefoot.

-barefoot ken bob

--- In barefootrick@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Griffin" <jerryg@c...>
wrote:
> Ab-so-*******-lutely AMAZING!
>
> I know lots of people -- so do you -- who feel they need several
> months or more to recover from a marathon.  Explanation:  their
> legs are worn out from lifting the weight of their shoes for 26.2
> miles!  :)

Thanks, Rick -- pain has persisted, but is diminishing. Orthopaedist
shakes his head, foot doc says "Let Mother Nature take her course"
-- (translation -- "I don't have a clue") -- I am using a metatarsal pad
in my left shoe, which is seeming to relieve pressure and allow "MN
to take her course." I figure another week of swimming only, then
add a week of spin cycle, then I should be ready to run again.
However, I'm thinking of starting with my running flats on the hard
surfaces, do barefoot only on grass-type surfaces, for a while. Any
suggestions?

-- Jerry

On 6 Dec 2004 at 13:44, Barefoot Rick Roeber wrote:



Hi Jerry -- How's your recovery coming? Are you getting in any
runs?

BR


--- In barefootrick@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Griffin"
wrote: > Ab-so-*******-lutely AMAZING! > > I know lots of people --
so
do you -- who feel they need several > months or more to recover
from
a marathon. Explanation: their > legs are worn out from lifting the
weight of their shoes for 26.2 > miles! :) > > On 6 Dec 2004 at 4:47,
Ken Saxton wrote: > > > Thank you all, who have helped, with your
support, car-pooling, > pacing, cheering, picture taking, etc. meet
and exceed my barefoot > marathon-a-month goals, and we'll see
some of
you in Boston! > > http://www.runningbarefoot.org/2004-Tour- >
December.shtml#OrangeCountyMa >
rathon2004December5Saxton > >
-barefoot ken bob > > Oooo > oooO ( ) Ken Bob "The
Barefoot Runner" Saxton > ( ) ) /
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Thanks, Rick -- pain has persisted, but is diminishing.  Orthopaedist
shakes his head, foot doc says "Let Mother Nature take her course"
-- (translation -- "I don't have a clue") --  I am using a metatarsal pad
in my left shoe, which is seeming to relieve pressure and allow "MN
to take her course."  I figure another week of swimming only, then
add a week of spin cycle, then I should be ready to run again.
However, I'm thinking of starting with my running flats on the hard
surfaces, do barefoot only on grass-type surfaces, for a while.  Any
suggestions?

-- Jerry

On 6 Dec 2004 at 13:44, Barefoot Rick Roeber wrote:



Hi Jerry -- How's your recovery coming? Are you getting in any
runs?

BR


--- In barefootrick@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Griffin" <jerryg@c...>
wrote: > Ab-so-*******-lutely AMAZING! > > I know lots of people --
so
do you -- who feel they need several > months or more to recover
from
a marathon.  Explanation:  their > legs are worn out from lifting the
weight of their shoes for 26.2 > miles!  :) > > On 6 Dec 2004 at 4:47,
Ken Saxton wrote: > > > Thank you all, who have helped, with your
support, car-pooling, > pacing, cheering, picture taking, etc. meet
and exceed my barefoot > marathon-a-month goals, and we'll see
some of
you in Boston! > > http://www.runningbarefoot.org/2004-Tour- >
December.shtml#OrangeCountyMa >
rathon2004December5Saxton > >
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Hi Jerry -- How's your recovery coming? Are you getting in any runs?

BR


--- In barefootrick@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Griffin" <jerryg@c...>
wrote:
> Ab-so-*******-lutely AMAZING!
>
> I know lots of people -- so do you -- who feel they need several
> months or more to recover from a marathon.  Explanation:  their
> legs are worn out from lifting the weight of their shoes for 26.2
> miles!  :)
>
> On 6 Dec 2004 at 4:47, Ken Saxton wrote:
>
>
> Thank you all, who have helped, with your support, car-pooling,
> pacing, cheering, picture taking, etc. meet and exceed my barefoot
> marathon-a-month goals, and we'll see some of you in Boston!
>
> http://www.runningbarefoot.org/2004-Tour-
> December.shtml#OrangeCountyMa
> rathon2004December5Saxton
>
> -barefoot ken bob
>
>             Oooo
>   oooO  (     )  Ken Bob "The Barefoot Runner" Saxton
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Ab-so-*******-lutely AMAZING!

I know lots of people -- so do you -- who feel they need several
months or more to recover from a marathon.  Explanation:  their
legs are worn out from lifting the weight of their shoes for 26.2
miles!  :)

On 6 Dec 2004 at 4:47, Ken Saxton wrote:


Thank you all, who have helped, with your support, car-pooling,
pacing, cheering, picture taking, etc. meet and exceed my barefoot
marathon-a-month goals, and we'll see some of you in Boston!

http://www.runningbarefoot.org/2004-Tour-
December.shtml#OrangeCountyMa
rathon2004December5Saxton

-barefoot ken bob

             Oooo
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Thank you all, who have helped, with your support, car-pooling, pacing,
cheering, picture taking, etc. meet and exceed my barefoot marathon-a-month
goals, and we'll see some of you in Boston!

http://www.runningbarefoot.org/2004-Tour-December.shtml#OrangeCountyMarathon2004\
December5Saxton

-barefoot ken bob

             Oooo
   oooO  (     )  Ken Bob "The Barefoot Runner" Saxton
(      )    )  /    http://www.RunningBarefoot.org/
   \  (     (_/
    \_)

Now, to ease into an easy week before next Sunday's White Rock
Marathon:

http://barefootrunner.org/2004weeklymileage/weeklyending12-5-04.htm

Rick,

Maybe you would call it a trail -- loose gravel, each chip is sharp
not smooth and about quarter or half an inch sized pieces. I am
pleased to hear they might be runnable if I persevere.

What I find the hardest is loose debris of stone chips and twigs on
top of a hard surface like clay baked hard in the sun or tarmac ...
any tips for that?

I'm not sure what chip seal is, but almost all roads in the UK are
made by laying down sticky tarmac and then dumping sharp chippings on
them and having cars grind them in. So they seem like pretty hard
work. Occasionally you find a stretch that is just tarmac (blacktop?)
so very smooth and that is wonderful in comparison ...

The flint is either loose rubble of marshmallow sized pieces, spaced
too close to dodge but not close enough to make a surface. Another
section I'd like to crack is a narrow path which consists of a seam of
flint which ceates a cobbled surface but of course sharp random
geometric forms, and covered with a thin fall of leaves so you can't
even see the worst bits ... ! I can't even walk on that stuff ...

/edwin

--- In barefootrick@yahoogroups.com, Rick Roeber
wrote:
> Thanks for both yours and Pirie's perspective, Edwin. Not totally
sure what you refer to when you say gravel chip tracks? Would that be
sections of gravel road. Or, would it be like a chip seal? I assure
you, in time, you will be able to run on most any surface if you are
slow and steady with your acclimation to various surfaces.
>
> The beechnuts sound a bit painful. We have similar tree droppings
here in the US midwest that need to be avoided.
>
> Flint, to me, would require a full-foot strike and a slow pace. The
scraping, I imagine, could be quite painful.
>
> Thanks again for your thoughts, Edwin. Welcome to the group and post
often!
>
> Barefoot Rick
>
> stevedene2000 wrote:
>
>
> Just a little story --
>
> I run on the North Downs in Surrey, England and I have an interesting
> battle with the terrain ...
>
> This just a few miles along the ridge from where Gordon Pirie, author
> of Running Fast and Injury Free, used to run as a boy -- so I think of
> him sometimes, as I am very grateful for his words as they, along with
> Ken have massively helped my running.
>
> I start off wearing shoes (Adidas Swoops) because it is a couple of
> miles of sharp gravel chip tracks, (can anyone cope with those
> barefoot?) and then on top of the ridge I can take them off and it is
> of course lovely -- just watching out for tree roots and last week a
> rabbit hole covered by leaves which I promptly dropped into and had a
> lttle sprain but only a few days off thank goodness.
>
> Beechnuts are the current seasonal delight -- they hide amongst the
> leaves and on the clay soil which gets hard after a week of no rain,
> they are sharp. Fortunately, the squirrels have been at them and there
> has been rain for the past few weeks, so lovely squelchy mud between
> my toes ...
>
> Then there are the flint sections, and they continue to defeat me --
> marshmallow-sized globs of flint right in the instep, ouch! So it's
> shoes on for those stretches -- I have been experimenting with
> flipflops for speed of changeover ...
>
> This is the terrain that Pririe describes as, "The North Downs
> Escarpment in Surrey, where a great deal of our training was done, is
> particularly steep and rugged... Most of the time we trained in our
> plimsolls. The plimsolls were smooth-soled, so we had to concentrate
> very hard on staying on our feet when running on slick or muddy
> ground. We became very strong as a result. The constant hill running,
> the mud and the smooth-soled shoes meant that we had to develop
> efficient technique!"
>
> I agree, although some stretches still seem impossible barefoot ...
>
> Just another viewpoint for you all.
>
> /edwin
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jsgilbody/Gordon_book_040104.pdf
>
>
>
>
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Rick,

Maybe you would call it a trail -- loose gravel, each chip is sharp
not smooth and about quarter or half an inch sized pieces. I am
pleased to hear they might be runnable if I persevere.

What I find the hardest is loose debris of stone chips and twigs on
top of a hard surface like clay baked hard in the sun or tarmac ...
any tips for that?

I'm not sure what chip seal is, but almost all roads in the UK are
made by laying down sticky tarmac and then dumping sharp chippings on
them and having cars grind them in. So they seem like pretty hard
work. Occasionally you find a stretch that is just tarmac (blacktop?)
so very smooth and that is wonderful in comparison ...

The flint is either loose rubble of marshmallow sized pieces, spaced
too close to dodge but not close enough to make a surface. Another
section I'd like to crack is a narrow path which consists of a seam of
flint which ceates a cobbled surface but of course sharp random
geometric forms, and covered with a thin fall of leaves so you can't
even see the worst bits ... ! I can't even walk on that stuff ...

/edwin

--- In barefootrick@yahoogroups.com, Rick Roeber <barefootrick@b...>
wrote:
> Thanks for both yours and Pirie's perspective, Edwin. Not totally
sure what you refer to when you say gravel chip tracks? Would that be
sections of gravel road. Or, would it be like a chip seal? I assure
you, in time, you will be able to run on most any surface if you are
slow and steady with your acclimation to various surfaces.
>
> The beechnuts sound a bit painful. We have similar tree droppings
here in the US midwest that need to be avoided.
>
> Flint, to me, would require a full-foot strike and a slow pace. The
scraping, I imagine, could be quite painful.
>
> Thanks again for your thoughts, Edwin. Welcome to the group and post
often!
>
> Barefoot Rick
>
> stevedene2000 <stevedene2000@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Just a little story --
>
> I run on the North Downs in Surrey, England and I have an interesting
> battle with the terrain ...
>
> This just a few miles along the ridge from where Gordon Pirie, author
> of Running Fast and Injury Free, used to run as a boy -- so I think of
> him sometimes, as I am very grateful for his words as they, along with
> Ken have massively helped my running.
>
> I start off wearing shoes (Adidas Swoops) because it is a couple of
> miles of sharp gravel chip tracks, (can anyone cope with those
> barefoot?) and then on top of the ridge I can take them off and it is
> of course lovely -- just watching out for tree roots and last week a
> rabbit hole covered by leaves which I promptly dropped into and had a
> lttle sprain but only a few days off thank goodness.
>
> Beechnuts are the current seasonal delight -- they hide amongst the
> leaves and on the clay soil which gets hard after a week of no rain,
> they are sharp. Fortunately, the squirrels have been at them and there
> has been rain for the past few weeks, so lovely squelchy mud between
> my toes ...
>
> Then there are the flint sections, and they continue to defeat me --
> marshmallow-sized globs of flint right in the instep, ouch! So it's
> shoes on for those stretches -- I have been experimenting with
> flipflops for speed of changeover ...
>
> This is the terrain that Pririe describes as, "The North Downs
> Escarpment in Surrey, where a great deal of our training was done, is
> particularly steep and rugged... Most of the time we trained in our
> plimsolls. The plimsolls were smooth-soled, so we had to concentrate
> very hard on staying on our feet when running on slick or muddy
> ground. We became very strong as a result. The constant hill running,
> the mud and the smooth-soled shoes meant that we had to develop
> efficient technique!"
>
> I agree, although some stretches still seem impossible barefoot ...
>
> Just another viewpoint for you all.
>
> /edwin
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jsgilbody/Gordon_book_040104.pdf
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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