Jon - Your tardiness will never be taken into consideration, as long
as we get your numbers :-)! We definitely needed your 21 miles to put
us over the 100 mark.
New Total for Last Week - 102.86 Miles
Have fun this weekend!
Rick
--- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, tetsujin87@... wrote:
>
>
> Rick -
>
> thanks, I'll open the barefoot marathoning for the month on October
1 in
> Portland and you can follow up with Kansas City (10/7) and Chicago
two weeks
> later.
>
> Portland will be my fourth barefoot marathon this year (three
others and two
> ultras in flipflop thongs) and number 27 since the first one in
1990 on a
> lark. Didn't know it was okay to run barefoot all the time until
KenBob ran
> the 2001 San Diego Marathon at my pace (4hr/38min) as training for
his next
> weekend's Pacific Shorline more than an hour faster.
>
> Good luck in yours too.
>
> - jon
>
> ps - may have missed last week's barefoot mileage report at 21
barefoot
> miles.
> done for this week at 5 miles and will, of course, start off next
week at
> 26.2 miles (fingers crossed).
>
>
> sIn a message dated 9/27/2006 1:34:40 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> barefootrick@... writes:
>
> on your upcoming Portland Marathon this Sunday! How many marathons
does
> that make for you now ... a ga-zillion? You're doing this one
sans
> shoes, right?
>
> Good luck, my friend!
>
> BR
>
thanks, I'll open the barefoot marathoning for the month on October 1 in Portland and you can follow up with Kansas City (10/7) and Chicago two weeks later.
Portland will be my fourth barefoot marathon this year (three others and two ultras in flipflop thongs) and number 27 since the first one in 1990 on a lark. Didn't know it was okay to run barefoot all the time until KenBob ran the 2001 San Diego Marathon at my pace (4hr/38min) as training for his next weekend's Pacific Shorline more than an hour faster.
Good luck in yours too.
- jon
ps - may have missed last week's barefoot mileage report at 21 barefoot miles.
done for this week at 5 miles and will, of course, start off next week at 26.2 miles (fingers crossed).
sIn a message dated 9/27/2006 1:34:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, barefootrick@... writes:
on your upcoming Portland Marathon this Sunday! How many marathons does that make for you now ... a ga-zillion? You're doing this one sans shoes, right?
on your upcoming Portland Marathon this Sunday! How many marathons does
that make for you now ... a ga-zillion? You're doing this one sans
shoes, right?
Good luck, my friend!
BR
Doug, Hope this goes well for you. You never know ... you might
actually be dealing with someone who is reasonable and will want to
work with you. One can only hope.
Yes, do keep us posted on the outcome!
BR
--- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, "dr.brandt" <d.r.brandt@...>
wrote:
>
> Here is my follow up letter to the manager of my local health
> facility. I'll let you all know how this goes.
>
> [Content of e-mail follows]
> Thanks for taking time this evening to listen to my request to open
the
> indoor track at your facility to barefoot running. As I mentioned
to
> you, I have recently taken up barefoot running and am now running
about
> 25 miles a week barefoot. Having an indoor facility over the
winter
> will enable me to keep up my conditioning during inclement
weather. If
> there is a concern about how to monitor and control barefoot
running on
> the track, I am fully agreeable to reasonable standards to limit
such
> access.
>
> Such standards might be as follows:
> 1. Barefoot runners only allowed by individual and prior approval
of
> the fitness manager of the facility.
> 2. Bare feet allowed only on running track and to and from
dressing
> area.
> 3. Barefoot runners indemnify the facility of all liability (I do
not
> think this is needed as there is at least an equal chance of injury
> while shod, but would be willing to do this if needed).
> 4. Barefoot runners are required to show 3 consecutive weeks of 20
> miles per week barefoot on sidewalk/asphalt (no more than 50% being
on
> grass) before being allowed to apply for indoor barefoot running at
the
> facility (again, I do not think this is needed, but am willing to
do
> this if it is felt that there is a need to control the number of
> barefoot runners initially).
>
> Regarding issues of safety for the barefoot runner, there is
general
> agreement and some studies that indicate a lower chance of injury
for
> barefoot than shod runners. Regarding issues of safety for shod
> runners in the presence of barefoot runners on an indoor track, I
do
> not believe that there are any reasonable risks.
>
> Regarding issues of sanitation, there is far more risk to all
patrons
> of getting athlete's foot in the showers and locker rooms of the
> facility than from the surface of the running track. Shod runners
are
> protected by shoes. Thus, the only risk of transmission of
athlete's
> foot is to barefoot runners on the track and I for one have no
concern
> about this (and would fully indemnify the facility if this
assurance is
> needed). Further, the relative humidity in winter for the running
track
> is likely less than 30% and these conditions are not conducive to
> transmission.
>
> Thanks so much for being willing to present my request to your
team,
> management, and insurance agency. Please let me know if I can be
of
> any assistance.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Doug Brandt
>
>
>
>
> --- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, "dr.brandt" <d.r.brandt@>
wrote:
> >
> > I am going to be talking to the manager of our local municipal
> fitness
> > center about changing their policy to allow barefoot running on
the
> > indoor track. Thus I am looking for well documented facts to
support
> > this effort. In my initial conversation, the manager brought up
all
> of
> > the things that I'm sure we have all heard: barefoot running is
not
> > allowed due to sanitary issues and safety issues. In addition,
he
> > stated that most all health facilities do not allow indoor
barefoot
> > running.
> >
> > Any and all references to WELL DOCUMENTED information to counter
this
> > managers proclivity to not allow indoor barefoot running at his
> > facility would be most welcome.
> >
> > Doug
> >
>
Here is my follow up letter to the manager of my local health
facility. I'll let you all know how this goes.
[Content of e-mail follows]
Thanks for taking time this evening to listen to my request to open the
indoor track at your facility to barefoot running. As I mentioned to
you, I have recently taken up barefoot running and am now running about
25 miles a week barefoot. Having an indoor facility over the winter
will enable me to keep up my conditioning during inclement weather. If
there is a concern about how to monitor and control barefoot running on
the track, I am fully agreeable to reasonable standards to limit such
access.
Such standards might be as follows:
1. Barefoot runners only allowed by individual and prior approval of
the fitness manager of the facility.
2. Bare feet allowed only on running track and to and from dressing
area.
3. Barefoot runners indemnify the facility of all liability (I do not
think this is needed as there is at least an equal chance of injury
while shod, but would be willing to do this if needed).
4. Barefoot runners are required to show 3 consecutive weeks of 20
miles per week barefoot on sidewalk/asphalt (no more than 50% being on
grass) before being allowed to apply for indoor barefoot running at the
facility (again, I do not think this is needed, but am willing to do
this if it is felt that there is a need to control the number of
barefoot runners initially).
Regarding issues of safety for the barefoot runner, there is general
agreement and some studies that indicate a lower chance of injury for
barefoot than shod runners. Regarding issues of safety for shod
runners in the presence of barefoot runners on an indoor track, I do
not believe that there are any reasonable risks.
Regarding issues of sanitation, there is far more risk to all patrons
of getting athlete's foot in the showers and locker rooms of the
facility than from the surface of the running track. Shod runners are
protected by shoes. Thus, the only risk of transmission of athlete's
foot is to barefoot runners on the track and I for one have no concern
about this (and would fully indemnify the facility if this assurance is
needed). Further, the relative humidity in winter for the running track
is likely less than 30% and these conditions are not conducive to
transmission.
Thanks so much for being willing to present my request to your team,
management, and insurance agency. Please let me know if I can be of
any assistance.
Best regards,
Doug Brandt
--- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, "dr.brandt" <d.r.brandt@...> wrote:
>
> I am going to be talking to the manager of our local municipal
fitness
> center about changing their policy to allow barefoot running on the
> indoor track. Thus I am looking for well documented facts to support
> this effort. In my initial conversation, the manager brought up all
of
> the things that I'm sure we have all heard: barefoot running is not
> allowed due to sanitary issues and safety issues. In addition, he
> stated that most all health facilities do not allow indoor barefoot
> running.
>
> Any and all references to WELL DOCUMENTED information to counter this
> managers proclivity to not allow indoor barefoot running at his
> facility would be most welcome.
>
> Doug
>
Every mile counts Cris! Thanks for checking in!
24.4 miles for Doug
5 miles for Cris
52.46 miles for Rick
81.86 Miles (27.28 miles per runner)
Thanks All!
Rick
--- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, "Cris Kelly Photography"
<ckelly@...> wrote:
>
> 5 BF miles for me this week.
>
> Have a great week!
>
> -Cris
>
24.4 miles for me.
Doug
He is before all things, and in Him all
things hold together. Col 1:17
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barefoot Rick" <barefootrick@...>
To: <BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:30 AM
Subject: [BarefootRick] Weekly Barefoot Mileage Roundup - Week Ending 9/23 &
9/24
> 52.46 miles for me this week.
>
> Et tu?
>
> http://barefootrunner.org/06weeklymileage/weekending9-24-06.htm
>
> Having a Blessed Blast!
>
> BR
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Here in CA there are few big changes from season to season. Today may be the first day of fall, but it is still in the 80s, so the changes are not too dramatic.
But I have noticed that it is brisker in the AMs, when I run. The ground is cooler....making it easier to do BF on some asphalt areas. I work BF, too, and my studio has a cement floor. Today is the first day I'm wearing socks until it warms up a little. They stay on about 1 hour before I can't stand them any longer. :)
Here in the midwest, the fall season becomes more apparent to me by the
new layer of "stuff" on sidewalks, streets, trails, etc. For instance,
we have these trees in my locale where they throw off hard, red berries
all over the sidewalks. Also, acorns are abundant this time of year. I
especially notice them not only when running in certain areas, but also
from my neighbor's trees that hang over into my lawn. When I am out
mowing, there are quite a few more pointy sensations in that part of
the yard on my bare feet.
I don't mind as much as I did when I first started barefoot running.
Maybe I'm getting more used to and accepting of the berries, acorns,
and assorted tree stuff this time of year.
Anybody else notice how the various seasons offer different challenges
of seasonal "stuff"? Winter is coming where the snow plows will throw
rock and salt up on the sidewalk. That's another sensation to my
barefeet coming sooner than not!
BR
Totals:
Doug - 22.85
Rick - 60.26
Cris - 5
Jon - 10
98.11 for the week, folks. 24.53 average per runner!
Have a good week, ya'll!
Rick
--- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, tetsujin87@... wrote:
>
>
> rick -
>
> two barefoot runs for me - 2 miles and 8 miles = 10 miles
> getting ready for barefoot Portland Marathon on October 1.
>
> - jon
>
> In a message dated 9/17/06 1:52:21 PM Central Daylight Time,
> barefootrick@... writes:
>
> Doug - 22.85
> Rick - 60.26
>
> So far - 83.11
>
> --- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, "dr.brandt" <d.r.brandt@>
wrote:
> >
> > 22.85 barefoot miles this week.
> >
> > Doug
> >
>
Doug - 22.85
Rick - 60.26
So far - 83.11
--- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, "dr.brandt" <d.r.brandt@...> wrote:
>
> 22.85 barefoot miles this week.
>
> Doug
>
Thanks ya'll, for your kind words. I still can't believe I did it!
Resting comfortably,
Rick
--- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Rick"
<barefootrick@...> wrote:
>
> Full report with lots of pics:
>
> http://barefootrunner.org/reports/06patriots/06patriots.htm
>
> Thanks for reading!
>
> BR
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> TEXT VERSION (NO PICS)
>
> Barefoot Rick's Patriots' Run Report -
> A Nine Hour and 11 Minute Remembrance Run - September 11, 2206
>
> I thought I was a distance runner before 9/11/06. Possibly I'm a
> little closer to that characterization since that day -- the day of
> the 9 hour and 11 minute Patriots' Run on that Monday, the fifth
> anniversary of that horrific day when so many died. Along with the
> tragedy was the incredible heroism of that day in 2001 and the
> perseverance and the endurance of the first responders and rescuers
> in NYC, DC, and PA. How fitting, that we as runners, had the
> opportunity to put forth our puny efforts, and endure possibly in a
> small measure as those did on that fateful day.
>
> The Patriot's Run started at noon on Monday 9/11 in Olathe Kansas.
> There were contingents of Marines and Army at the run which added
to
> our "reasons to run" as we thanked them for their service to our
> country. A couple of minutes before noon, I had the privilege to
sing
> the National Anthem. It was a humbling honor that I will never
forget.
>
> We started at noon. The course was a 3/4 mile asphalt bike path
> around Two Trails Park in Olathe. This was unlike any run that I
had
> done before. I have never ran a timed run before, but I knew with 9
> hours and 11 minutes I could very well make this an ultra-marathon
> (def; an "ultra" is anything beyond the marathon distance of 26.2
> miles [for my non-running friends]). Around and around I went.
After
> approximately 16.5 miles I stopped for the first time. As others
> continued walking when they weren't running, I chose to stop and
rest
> on my breaks and not walk. In retrospect, I'm sure I could have
> covered more ground by doing the run/walk regimen, but I really
just
> wanted to record running miles. After my initial stop, I ended up
> stopping every 2 to 3 miles for a food and liquid break.
>
> Throughout the day, I got to run with several folks including Rusty
> Collins and BJ the DJ. It was great chatting at various times just
to
> get my mind off the lap repetition. Running a 3/4 loop after a
while
> really is a mind game. Add to the mix that a runner knows he or she
> has 9 hours and 11 minutes to finish and there is real temptation
to
> not drive as hard. One had to continually keep oneself continually
> going no matter how they were feeling in their mind and body (not
> unlike, I'm sure how the rescuers behaved on that somber day).
>
> At about loop 48 or 49 (approximately 35 miles), I was tightening
up
> BAD! Tony Drew, the RD, came over to where I was sprawled out on
the
> grass and told me that he had a Chiropractor up at the pavilion
that
> was working on folks. I gladly accepted. The Doc got my legs
massaged
> and feeling much better. I got up and was able to finish a few more
> laps (55 laps total) which translated into 40.10 miles. I was
> thrilled! This was the farthest I had ever ran in my life, barefoot
> or not! My previous longest was 28 miles back in '01 in shoes!
>
> Not only was this a personal best for me, but it also was good
enough
> for 2nd Male Overall in the event and 3rd Place Overall (a woman
from
> West Virginia took first place with 68 laps!). Kudos to all who had
a
> hand in putting this phenomenal event together, especially Race
> Director Tony Drew.
>
> Was it worth the pain and the fatigue I felt after the race? You
bet!
> All I could keep thinking of throughout the race was how so many
had
> made the ultimate sacrifice for me to be able to be out there
> running, barefoot no less. I thought of my son Nathan who is
> currently in National Guard basic training in Ft. Jackson, SC and
how
> proud I am of him! It was a day of reflection for me and a day of
> personal sacrifice. Not near, however, compared with all the
> sacrifices of those who have gone before to allow me to live in
> blessed freedom!
>
> Special Thanks to Photographer Dick Ross at www.seekcrun.com
>
> Factoids:
> Ran 40.1 Miles in 6:33:44
> Average Pace - 9:44
> (A New Distance PR and My First Ultra Marathon Distance!)
> 2nd Place Men Overall
> 3rd Place Overall
>
For me, Doug, I just never had the energy to argue or even try to reson
with these folks, so therefore I don't have any info to offer.
What I did the first and second winter that I ran barefoot was wear
aquashoes that had no sole whatsoever. These things would look pretty
funny as they would flop around on the top of my feet while I went
around the eighth mile track at our fitness club at work. The staff and
management allowed me to do this because, academically, I was wearing
shoes. There is pic of my soleless water shoes on the following link:
http://www.barefootrunner.org/footwear/footwear.htm
Best wishes on whatever way you choose to pursue this.
Rick
--- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, "dr.brandt" <d.r.brandt@...> wrote:
>
> I am going to be talking to the manager of our local municipal
fitness
> center about changing their policy to allow barefoot running on the
> indoor track. Thus I am looking for well documented facts to support
> this effort. In my initial conversation, the manager brought up all
of
> the things that I'm sure we have all heard: barefoot running is not
> allowed due to sanitary issues and safety issues. In addition, he
> stated that most all health facilities do not allow indoor barefoot
> running.
>
> Any and all references to WELL DOCUMENTED information to counter this
> managers proclivity to not allow indoor barefoot running at his
> facility would be most welcome.
>
> Doug
>
Full report with lots of pics:
http://barefootrunner.org/reports/06patriots/06patriots.htm
Thanks for reading!
BR
----------------------------------------------
TEXT VERSION (NO PICS)
Barefoot Rick's Patriots' Run Report -
A Nine Hour and 11 Minute Remembrance Run - September 11, 2206
I thought I was a distance runner before 9/11/06. Possibly I'm a
little closer to that characterization since that day -- the day of
the 9 hour and 11 minute Patriots' Run on that Monday, the fifth
anniversary of that horrific day when so many died. Along with the
tragedy was the incredible heroism of that day in 2001 and the
perseverance and the endurance of the first responders and rescuers
in NYC, DC, and PA. How fitting, that we as runners, had the
opportunity to put forth our puny efforts, and endure possibly in a
small measure as those did on that fateful day.
The Patriot's Run started at noon on Monday 9/11 in Olathe Kansas.
There were contingents of Marines and Army at the run which added to
our "reasons to run" as we thanked them for their service to our
country. A couple of minutes before noon, I had the privilege to sing
the National Anthem. It was a humbling honor that I will never forget.
We started at noon. The course was a 3/4 mile asphalt bike path
around Two Trails Park in Olathe. This was unlike any run that I had
done before. I have never ran a timed run before, but I knew with 9
hours and 11 minutes I could very well make this an ultra-marathon
(def; an "ultra" is anything beyond the marathon distance of 26.2
miles [for my non-running friends]). Around and around I went. After
approximately 16.5 miles I stopped for the first time. As others
continued walking when they weren't running, I chose to stop and rest
on my breaks and not walk. In retrospect, I'm sure I could have
covered more ground by doing the run/walk regimen, but I really just
wanted to record running miles. After my initial stop, I ended up
stopping every 2 to 3 miles for a food and liquid break.
Throughout the day, I got to run with several folks including Rusty
Collins and BJ the DJ. It was great chatting at various times just to
get my mind off the lap repetition. Running a 3/4 loop after a while
really is a mind game. Add to the mix that a runner knows he or she
has 9 hours and 11 minutes to finish and there is real temptation to
not drive as hard. One had to continually keep oneself continually
going no matter how they were feeling in their mind and body (not
unlike, I'm sure how the rescuers behaved on that somber day).
At about loop 48 or 49 (approximately 35 miles), I was tightening up
BAD! Tony Drew, the RD, came over to where I was sprawled out on the
grass and told me that he had a Chiropractor up at the pavilion that
was working on folks. I gladly accepted. The Doc got my legs massaged
and feeling much better. I got up and was able to finish a few more
laps (55 laps total) which translated into 40.10 miles. I was
thrilled! This was the farthest I had ever ran in my life, barefoot
or not! My previous longest was 28 miles back in '01 in shoes!
Not only was this a personal best for me, but it also was good enough
for 2nd Male Overall in the event and 3rd Place Overall (a woman from
West Virginia took first place with 68 laps!). Kudos to all who had a
hand in putting this phenomenal event together, especially Race
Director Tony Drew.
Was it worth the pain and the fatigue I felt after the race? You bet!
All I could keep thinking of throughout the race was how so many had
made the ultimate sacrifice for me to be able to be out there
running, barefoot no less. I thought of my son Nathan who is
currently in National Guard basic training in Ft. Jackson, SC and how
proud I am of him! It was a day of reflection for me and a day of
personal sacrifice. Not near, however, compared with all the
sacrifices of those who have gone before to allow me to live in
blessed freedom!
Special Thanks to Photographer Dick Ross at www.seekcrun.com
Factoids:
Ran 40.1 Miles in 6:33:44
Average Pace - 9:44
(A New Distance PR and My First Ultra Marathon Distance!)
2nd Place Men Overall
3rd Place Overall
I am going to be talking to the manager of our local municipal fitness
center about changing their policy to allow barefoot running on the
indoor track. Thus I am looking for well documented facts to support
this effort. In my initial conversation, the manager brought up all of
the things that I'm sure we have all heard: barefoot running is not
allowed due to sanitary issues and safety issues. In addition, he
stated that most all health facilities do not allow indoor barefoot
running.
Any and all references to WELL DOCUMENTED information to counter this
managers proclivity to not allow indoor barefoot running at his
facility would be most welcome.
Doug
I will post more on this later but there was a 9 hour and 11 minute run
today in Olathe Kansas that started at noon and went til 9:11 p.m. I
ended up running 6 hours and 33 minutes and running a little over 40
miles barefoot. Took 2nd Mens Overall!!
BR
http://www.barefootrunner.org
Excellent Jon!
Doug - 23.2 barefoot
Rick - 54.2 barefoot
Cris - 6.25
Jon - 18.1
101.75
A little more than 25 miles per runner this week. A new mileage total
record!
BR
--- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, tetsujin87@... wrote:
>
>
> Rick -
>
>
> jon - 18.1 miles
>
> back to all barefoot mileages this week with 13.1 mile Labor Day
Half
> Marathon (in eight year PR - 1:53:12) and 5 mile fitness run on
Saturday.
>
> thanks
>
> - jon
>
>
> In a message dated 9/10/06 8:19:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
> barefootrick@... writes:
>
> So far:
>
> Doug - 23.2 barefoot
> Rick - 54.2 barefoot
> Cris - 6.25
>
> 83.65
>
> --- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Rick"
> <barefootrick@> wrote:
> >
> > So far:
> >
> > Doug - 23.2 barefoot
> > Rick - 54.2 barefoot
> >
> > 77.4
> >
> > --- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Rick"
> > <barefootrick@> wrote:
> > >
> > > A good week with a marathon debuting the week on Monday.
> > >
> > > 54.2 miles this week.
> > >
> > > http://barefootrunner.org/06weeklymileage/weekending9-10-06.htm
> > >
> > > Note: On Monday 9/11 I will be running the Patriot's Run in
> Olathe
> > KS,
> > > a 9 hour and 11 minute run starting at noon on Patriots Day. I
> have
> > > never run that long so we shall see how many barefoot miles
will
> be
> > > possible.
> > >
> > > Having a blessed blast!
> > >
> > > BR
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
--- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Rick" <barefootrick@...> wrote: > > So far: > > Doug - 23.2 barefoot > Rick - 54.2 barefoot > > 77.4 > > --- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Rick" > <barefootrick@> wrote: > > > > A good week with a marathon debuting the week on Monday. > > > > 54.2 miles this week. > > > > http://barefootrunner.org/06weeklymileage/weekending9-10-06.htm > > > > Note: On Monday 9/11 I will be running the Patriot's Run in Olathe > KS, > > a 9 hour and 11 minute run starting at noon on Patriots Day. I have > > never run that long so we shall see how many barefoot miles will be > > possible. > > > > Having a blessed blast! > > > > BR > > >
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So far:
Doug - 23.2 barefoot
Rick - 54.2 barefoot
Cris - 6.25
83.65
--- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Rick"
<barefootrick@...> wrote:
>
> So far:
>
> Doug - 23.2 barefoot
> Rick - 54.2 barefoot
>
> 77.4
>
> --- In BarefootRick@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Rick"
> <barefootrick@> wrote:
> >
> > A good week with a marathon debuting the week on Monday.
> >
> > 54.2 miles this week.
> >
> > http://barefootrunner.org/06weeklymileage/weekending9-10-06.htm
> >
> > Note: On Monday 9/11 I will be running the Patriot's Run in
Olathe
> KS,
> > a 9 hour and 11 minute run starting at noon on Patriots Day. I
have
> > never run that long so we shall see how many barefoot miles will
be
> > possible.
> >
> > Having a blessed blast!
> >
> > BR
> >
>