AFC Championship.  Ravens @ Chargers
NFC Championship.  Eagles @ Panthers
 
side note.  I want to go to the Ravens @ Chargers game in the 2009 regular.  Are
regular season tickets usually available or are they maxed out with season
ticket holders?  I want to buy my airline tickets as soon as they annouce the
schedule.
 
Econ




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Flacco has doen well thsi year and some of the throws he makes will
only get better especially if they can get him a tall WR or 2.

--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "joes06" <kingjoey@...> wrote:
>
> I don't think he's going to be a huge passing numbers guy but
there
> were a lot of those that never got anywhere like Marino or Dan
Fouts.
> The Balto game plan is going to be run and control the clock also.
> He has good instincts in the pocket and avoids the rush well.I
don't
> think you can judge his overall game till they get a decent crop
of
> recievers in there.I'm very happy with him what I want is a decent
kick
> return guy.
> --
> - In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Econ <scat19@> wrote:
> >
> > but does everyone think Flacco is the greatest thing since
sliced
> bread?  I like him, and he has the potential to get better, but I
don't
> see him being a top tier NFL QB.  I only see him as being an
average
> NFL QB.
> >  
> >  
> > Econ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

I don't think he's going to be a huge passing numbers guy but there
were a lot of those that never got anywhere like Marino or Dan Fouts.
The Balto game plan is going to be run and control the clock also.
He has good instincts in the pocket and avoids the rush well.I don't
think you can judge his overall game till they get a decent crop of
recievers in there.I'm very happy with him what I want is a decent kick
return guy.
--
- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Econ <scat19@...> wrote:
>
> but does everyone think Flacco is the greatest thing since sliced
bread?  I like him, and he has the potential to get better, but I don't
see him being a top tier NFL QB.  I only see him as being an average
NFL QB.
>  
>  
> Econ
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

He is an "OK" rookie right now.  If he was a vetern playing like he is, we would
all be crying for a QB in the next draft.  An avg NFL QB IMO is a Trent Dilfer
type.  Flacco isn't there yet.  Top tier is Brees, Rivers etc.  Also, I said he
has the "potential" to get better.  He has learned to throw the deep ball
better, but he still needs to work on throwing the ball before the player is
open.  On certain reads (usually curls), he has very good timing, but I would
like to see that throwing crossing patterns.  He still tends to look for
"college" open receivers instead of "NFL" open.
 
 
Econ
 

--- On Fri, 1/9/09, Tom Stewart <hatepaste@...> wrote:

From: Tom Stewart <hatepaste@...>
Subject: Re: [BaltimoRavens] Not to seem negative ...
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 11:06 AM






Dude. He qualifies as an average nfl quarterback in his rookie season. So if
you say he has the potential to get better you are contradicting yourself.

On Jan 9, 2009 11:03 AM, "Econ" <scat19@yahoo. com> wrote:

but does everyone think Flacco is the greatest thing since sliced bread?
I like him, and he has the potential to get better, but I don't see him
being a top tier NFL QB. I only see him as being an average NFL QB.

Econ

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Dude. He qualifies as an average nfl quarterback in his rookie season. So if
you say he has the potential to get better you are contradicting yourself.

On Jan 9, 2009 11:03 AM, "Econ" <scat19@...> wrote:

   but does everyone think Flacco is the greatest thing since sliced bread?
I like him, and he has the potential to get better, but I don't see him
being a top tier NFL QB.  I only see him as being an average NFL QB.


Econ

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but does everyone think Flacco is the greatest thing since sliced bread?  I like
him, and he has the potential to get better, but I don't see him being a top
tier NFL QB.  I only see him as being an average NFL QB.
 
 
Econ




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Allow me to break out my violin and play a doozy.

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...> wrote:

From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...>
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] The Colts are whining about refs
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 8:30 PM

They are saying the refs cost them the game against San Diego.

Is that the funniest thing you have ever heard or what?  The Ravens
have been enduring league-directed bad refereeing for a dozen seasons
in a row now, and the Colts are whining because of one game of bad
calls.

But they can whine all they wish.  The reality is that they are the
only team in the AFC who can definitely beat the Ravens, and now they
are out.  Yee Hah!


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Well the other thing is that their offensive line gets away with some many
holding penalties it is ridiculous.  The ravens/colts playoff game a couple
of years ago; they were holding on every play.



On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:30 PM, hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...> wrote:

>   They are saying the refs cost them the game against San Diego.
>
> Is that the funniest thing you have ever heard or what? The Ravens
> have been enduring league-directed bad refereeing for a dozen seasons
> in a row now, and the Colts are whining because of one game of bad
> calls.
>
> But they can whine all they wish. The reality is that they are the
> only team in the AFC who can definitely beat the Ravens, and now they
> are out. Yee Hah!
>
>
>


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They are saying the refs cost them the game against San Diego.

Is that the funniest thing you have ever heard or what?  The Ravens
have been enduring league-directed bad refereeing for a dozen seasons
in a row now, and the Colts are whining because of one game of bad
calls.

But they can whine all they wish.  The reality is that they are the
only team in the AFC who can definitely beat the Ravens, and now they
are out.  Yee Hah!

Millen was fired during the season.  He is a TV analyst right now.
 
 
Econ

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, joes06 <kingjoey@...> wrote:

From: joes06 <kingjoey@...>
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: George Kofinis to the Browns
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 2:26 AM






Yeah not final yet but it seems Browns ownership has a fetish for
Ravens personell.Savage and Romeo didn't get along at all and they
wanted the whole thing to go away. My question is why hasn't Matt
Millen been fired? Did he promise to win at least one game next year?

--- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "hbc_7840" <fang_guy@.. .> wrote:
>
> It's not official yet, but it looks like George Kofinis (sp) will be
> going to Cleveland to replace Phil Savage as the GM. I don't know
his
> official title here, but he replaced Savage as Ozzie Newsome's right
> hand man when Savage left for the Browns. Apparently they will be
> bringing him in along with Eric Mangini as the head coach.
>
> Makes me wonder if Ozzie and the Ravens will bring Savage back to
> replace the guy who replaced him!
>
> That would be fine with me. I don't know what happened over there,
but
> Phil and Ozzie made a hell of a good team over here.
>


















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Haynesworth?

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, joes06 <kingjoey@...> wrote:

From: joes06 <kingjoey@...>
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: Defensive player of the year ... NOT !!
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 2:40 AM

The national media hates anything Balto. It's worse that Col. Klink
threatening to send Shultz
to the Russian front.Harrison has been a beast for
Pitts this year and the Titans have a guy also,can't think of his
name off hand.
--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "hbc_7840" <fang_guy@...>
wrote:
>
> Ed Reed came in third in the DPOY voting.  I believe they found out
> that he doesn't walk on water, is unable to turn water into wine,
> cannot cure the blind and has never started a worldwide religion!
>
> Add this to Joe Flacco's zero votes for Offensive Rookie of the
Year
> and John Harbaugh's zero votes for Coach of the Year.
>
> I understand Atlanta's guys sweeping the voting for coach and
rookie, I
> really do.  I get it.  But no votes at all for Joe Cool and
Harbaugh?
> Oh please.
>
> And worst of all, third place for Reed?  If two interceptions a
game in
> almost every game is not enough, then what is?
>
> I'm starting to think Paul Tagliabue ran the voting process.
>
> I should add that the winner was that Steeler linebacker -
Harrison, I
> think is his name - who was dropped by the Ravens the same year
that we
> also dropped Cleveland's current starting quarterback.
>



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The national media hates anything Balto. It's worse that Col. Klink
threatening to send Shultz
to the Russian front.Harrison has been a beast for
Pitts this year and the Titans have a guy also,can't think of his
name off hand.
--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "hbc_7840" <fang_guy@...> wrote:
>
> Ed Reed came in third in the DPOY voting.  I believe they found out
> that he doesn't walk on water, is unable to turn water into wine,
> cannot cure the blind and has never started a worldwide religion!
>
> Add this to Joe Flacco's zero votes for Offensive Rookie of the
Year
> and John Harbaugh's zero votes for Coach of the Year.
>
> I understand Atlanta's guys sweeping the voting for coach and
rookie, I
> really do.  I get it.  But no votes at all for Joe Cool and
Harbaugh?
> Oh please.
>
> And worst of all, third place for Reed?  If two interceptions a
game in
> almost every game is not enough, then what is?
>
> I'm starting to think Paul Tagliabue ran the voting process.
>
> I should add that the winner was that Steeler linebacker -
Harrison, I
> think is his name - who was dropped by the Ravens the same year
that we
> also dropped Cleveland's current starting quarterback.
>

Yeah not final yet but it seems Browns ownership has a fetish for
Ravens personell.Savage and Romeo didn't get along at all and they
wanted the whole thing to go away. My question is why hasn't Matt
Millen been fired? Did he promise to win at least one game next year?

--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "hbc_7840" <fang_guy@...> wrote:
>
> It's not official yet, but it looks like George Kofinis (sp) will be
> going to Cleveland to replace Phil Savage as the GM.  I don't know
his
> official title here, but he replaced Savage as Ozzie Newsome's right
> hand man when Savage left for the Browns.  Apparently they will be
> bringing him in along with Eric Mangini as the head coach.
>
> Makes me wonder if Ozzie and the Ravens will bring Savage back to
> replace the guy who replaced him!
>
> That would be fine with me.  I don't know what happened over there,
but
> Phil and Ozzie made a hell of a good team over here.
>

Because they didn't have hindsight ahead of time?

--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Steve James
<deafhearingdudeinmd@...> wrote:
>
> Why did we drop Harrison anyways?
>
> --- On Mon, 1/5/09, hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...> wrote:
>
> From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...>
> Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Defensive player of the year ... NOT !!
> To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 7:52 PM
>
> Ed Reed came in third in the DPOY voting.  I believe they found out
> that he doesn't walk on water, is unable to turn water into wine,
> cannot cure the blind and has never started a worldwide religion!
>
> Add this to Joe Flacco's zero votes for Offensive Rookie of the
Year
> and John Harbaugh's zero votes for Coach of the Year.
>
> I understand Atlanta's guys sweeping the voting for coach and
rookie, I
> really do.  I get it.  But no votes at all for Joe Cool and
Harbaugh?
> Oh please.
>
> And worst of all, third place for Reed?  If two interceptions a
game in
> almost every game is not enough, then what is?
>
> I'm starting to think Paul Tagliabue ran the voting process.
>
> I should add that the winner was that Steeler linebacker -
Harrison, I
> think is his name - who was dropped by the Ravens the same year
that we
> also dropped Cleveland's current starting quarterback.
>
>
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>

I don't think I'd want Savage back. Not after the way he presented himself as a
jackass after he left us.

--- On Mon, 1/5/09, hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...> wrote:

From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...>
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] George Kofinis to the Browns
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 8:01 PM

It's not official yet, but it looks like George Kofinis (sp) will be
going to Cleveland to replace Phil Savage as the GM.  I don't know his
official title here, but he replaced Savage as Ozzie Newsome's right
hand man when Savage left for the Browns.  Apparently they will be
bringing him in along with Eric Mangini as the head coach.

Makes me wonder if Ozzie and the Ravens will bring Savage back to
replace the guy who replaced him!

That would be fine with me.  I don't know what happened over there, but
Phil and Ozzie made a hell of a good team over here.


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Why did we drop Harrison anyways?

--- On Mon, 1/5/09, hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...> wrote:

From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...>
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Defensive player of the year ... NOT !!
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 7:52 PM

Ed Reed came in third in the DPOY voting.  I believe they found out
that he doesn't walk on water, is unable to turn water into wine,
cannot cure the blind and has never started a worldwide religion!

Add this to Joe Flacco's zero votes for Offensive Rookie of the Year
and John Harbaugh's zero votes for Coach of the Year.

I understand Atlanta's guys sweeping the voting for coach and rookie, I
really do.  I get it.  But no votes at all for Joe Cool and Harbaugh?
Oh please.

And worst of all, third place for Reed?  If two interceptions a game in
almost every game is not enough, then what is?

I'm starting to think Paul Tagliabue ran the voting process.

I should add that the winner was that Steeler linebacker - Harrison, I
think is his name - who was dropped by the Ravens the same year that we
also dropped Cleveland's current starting quarterback.


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It's not official yet, but it looks like George Kofinis (sp) will be
going to Cleveland to replace Phil Savage as the GM.  I don't know his
official title here, but he replaced Savage as Ozzie Newsome's right
hand man when Savage left for the Browns.  Apparently they will be
bringing him in along with Eric Mangini as the head coach.

Makes me wonder if Ozzie and the Ravens will bring Savage back to
replace the guy who replaced him!

That would be fine with me.  I don't know what happened over there, but
Phil and Ozzie made a hell of a good team over here.

its ok, the ravens can beat everyone and make them all look bad :)

--- On Mon, 1/5/09, hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...> wrote:

From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...>
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Defensive player of the year ... NOT !!
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 7:52 PM






Ed Reed came in third in the DPOY voting. I believe they found out
that he doesn't walk on water, is unable to turn water into wine,
cannot cure the blind and has never started a worldwide religion!

Add this to Joe Flacco's zero votes for Offensive Rookie of the Year
and John Harbaugh's zero votes for Coach of the Year.

I understand Atlanta's guys sweeping the voting for coach and rookie, I
really do. I get it. But no votes at all for Joe Cool and Harbaugh?
Oh please.

And worst of all, third place for Reed? If two interceptions a game in
almost every game is not enough, then what is?

I'm starting to think Paul Tagliabue ran the voting process.

I should add that the winner was that Steeler linebacker - Harrison, I
think is his name - who was dropped by the Ravens the same year that we
also dropped Cleveland's current starting quarterback.


















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Ed Reed came in third in the DPOY voting.  I believe they found out
that he doesn't walk on water, is unable to turn water into wine,
cannot cure the blind and has never started a worldwide religion!

Add this to Joe Flacco's zero votes for Offensive Rookie of the Year
and John Harbaugh's zero votes for Coach of the Year.

I understand Atlanta's guys sweeping the voting for coach and rookie, I
really do.  I get it.  But no votes at all for Joe Cool and Harbaugh?
Oh please.

And worst of all, third place for Reed?  If two interceptions a game in
almost every game is not enough, then what is?

I'm starting to think Paul Tagliabue ran the voting process.

I should add that the winner was that Steeler linebacker - Harrison, I
think is his name - who was dropped by the Ravens the same year that we
also dropped Cleveland's current starting quarterback.

http://tinyurl.com/9fpja2

Jesus, the Ravens win their first playoff game in 7 years and I wake up only to
find 3 messages? What are we, Tampa Bay Rays fans?

--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Tom Stewart <hatepaste@...> wrote:

From: Tom Stewart <hatepaste@...>
Subject: Re: [BaltimoRavens] Reed
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 7:56 PM

I'm glad he didn't lateral

On Jan 4, 2009 2:12 PM, "Econ" <scat19@...> wrote:

   I'm glad we have him :-)


Econ

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I'm glad he didn't lateral

On Jan 4, 2009 2:12 PM, "Econ" <scat19@...> wrote:

   I'm glad we have him :-)


Econ

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Boy does my blood pressure rise for the playoffs.....

--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "hbc_7840" <fang_guy@...> wrote:
>
> I thought that offensive and defensive players of the year are two
> different awards, are they not?  Certainly Reed deserves
> consideration for both, but DPOY should be a lock.
>
> Also, kudos to the offensive line, who never seem to get any
> recognition.  They are young and started the year kinda shaky, but
> they have really grown together as a unit, even with Yanda out for
> the season and Ogden having retired.  And have they ever gotten
more
> bang for the buck than Gaither at LT as a fifth round supplemental
> pick?
>
>
>
>
> --- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "joes06" <kingjoey@> wrote:
> >
> > Should have gotten the MVP over Manning.This guy has been huge
all
> > year.Enjoyable game so far and the Ravens starting to smell it. A
> few
> > ore scores wouldn't hurt.
> >
> > --- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Econ <scat19@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm glad we have him :-)
> > >  
> > >  
> > > Econ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

I thought that offensive and defensive players of the year are two
different awards, are they not?  Certainly Reed deserves
consideration for both, but DPOY should be a lock.

Also, kudos to the offensive line, who never seem to get any
recognition.  They are young and started the year kinda shaky, but
they have really grown together as a unit, even with Yanda out for
the season and Ogden having retired.  And have they ever gotten more
bang for the buck than Gaither at LT as a fifth round supplemental
pick?




--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "joes06" <kingjoey@...> wrote:
>
> Should have gotten the MVP over Manning.This guy has been huge all
> year.Enjoyable game so far and the Ravens starting to smell it. A
few
> ore scores wouldn't hurt.
>
> --- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Econ <scat19@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm glad we have him :-)
> >  
> >  
> > Econ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Should have gotten the MVP over Manning.This guy has been huge all
year.Enjoyable game so far and the Ravens starting to smell it. A few
ore scores wouldn't hurt.

--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Econ <scat19@...> wrote:
>
> I'm glad we have him :-)
>  
>  
> Econ
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Such a goddamn beast! Hehe.

--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Econ <scat19@...> wrote:

From: Econ <scat19@...>
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Reed
To: baltimoravens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 2:12 PM

I'm glad we have him :-)
 
 
Econ




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I'm glad we have him :-)
 
 
Econ




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The Sun is still around? Thye have that Reigle character writing
about politics once in a while, stay away from his garbage.

--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "joes06" <kingjoey@...> wrote:
>
> They still have Dan Connely's article about Tex on the front
> page,probably 2 months old.The Sun's actually been going to hell
the
> last few years now.Sloppy haphazzard coverage of the Ravens on game
> day is horrendous.No professional analysis at all.I get much better
> coverge on Fang's blog but I guess he took an early buyout.
>
> --- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Steve James
> <deafhearingdudeinmd@> wrote:
> >
> > I know what you mean. I buy the paper like an idiot and hope for
> someone that actually has something with substance to say.
> >
> > --- On Wed, 12/31/08, Tom Stewart <hatepaste@> wrote:
> > From: Tom Stewart <hatepaste@>
> > Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Sun Coverage is...Pathetic?!?!?
> > To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 2:37 PM
> >
> > Was just looking at the front page of the Sun's sports page, and
> this is
> > horrible.  You got the stupid Q&A's, what's being said around the
> > league
> > about the Ravens.  An article from Miami paper about "catching
the
> team
> > fever", article about Pennington wins comeback player, and some
> picks.
> >
> > Doesn't it seem like there should be some sort of article from a
Sun
> > staffer
> > about the actual Ravens?  You know, besides the article about
> Trevor Pryce
> > working on a screenplay?  It just seems there should be something
> about the
> > coming game...
> >
> >
> >
> > Faceoff: Who gets more credit for the success in
> > '08?<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
> faceoff1231,0,6902022.column>
> > Dec 31, 2008 07:49 -0500
> >
> >  A year after finishing 5-11, the Ravens ended the regular season
> with an
> > 11-5 record and will face the Miami Dolphins in the first round
of
> the NFL
> > playoffs on Sunday at 1 p.m. Baltimore Sun reporters Candus
Thomson
> and Bill
> > Ordine discuss who deserves more credit for the Ravens' success
in
> 2008 --
> > quarterback Joe Flacco (left) or coach John Harbaugh.
> >
> >    - *The picks:
> > Ravens-Dolphins*<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
> ravenspicks1230-mezz,0,2463155.storylink>
> >
> >
> >    - *Poll: Ravens vs.
> > Dolphins*<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
> ravenspoll1228,0,3788661.poll>
> >
> >
> >    - *How they stack up: Ravens (11-5) at Dolphins (11-5)
> > *<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
> ravensbox1229,0,7624204.story>
> >
> >
> >    - *Baltimore vs. Miami: Rats vs. palmetto
> > bugs*<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
> sp.cities31dec31,0,1471898.story>
> >
> >
> >    - Ravens' Pryce is a
> > screenwriter<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
> te.sp.pryce31dec31,0,6327341.story>
> >    - Dolphins catching the team
> > fever<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
> sp.dolphins31dec31,0,2695310.story>
> >    - Dolphins' Pennington wins Comeback Player
> > award<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
> comeback1231,0,2485855.story>
> > Dec
> >    31, 2008 13:55 -0500
> >
> >    Updated: 39 minutes ago
> >
> >
> >  McGahee's mouth, not his feet, doing the
> > running<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
> maeselink1231,0,5470680.storylink>
> >
> >  *Rick Maese:* Running back's radio show comments speak volumes,
but
> > don't
> > expect remarks to distract Ravens as they prepare to face Dolphins
> >
> >    - *Photos: Looking back -- past Ravens playoff
> > games*<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
> ravensplayoffs-pg,0,2412663.photogallery>
> >
> >
> >    - *Need tickets? Click
> > here<http://tickets.baltimoresun.com/ResultsGeneral.aspx?
> stype=2&kwds=Baltimore%20Ravens>
> >    *
> >
> >
> >    - What they're saying about the
> > Ravens<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
> ravensroundup1230,0,4060116.story>
> >    - Q&A with Ravens quarterback Troy
> > Smith<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
> sp.ravensqa31dec31,0,6693006.story>
> >    - Ravens Q&A with Mike
> > Preston<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
> prestonqa1230,0,7947280.story>
> >
> >
> >    -  Orioles, Hendrickson agree to one-year, $1.5 million
> > deal<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-
> orioles1231,0,3433237.story>
> > Dec
> >    31, 2008 13:28 -0500
> >
> >    Updated: 1:28 p.m.
> >     -  Sports Legends to host event with ex-O's Ripken,
> > Murray<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/ripken/bal-
> ripken31,0,4774062.story>
> > Dec
> >    31, 2008 11:31 -0500
> >
> >      -  College football: Scott lifts Terps to bowl win vs.
> > Nevada<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-
> sp.terpsfoot31dec31,0,4630433.story>
> >    -  Charles Barkley arrested on suspicion of drunken
> > driving<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/basketball/bal-
> barkley1231,0,3972541.story>
> > Dec
> >    31, 2008 14:06 -0500
> >
> >    Updated: 28 minutes ago
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
>

They still have Dan Connely's article about Tex on the front
page,probably 2 months old.The Sun's actually been going to hell the
last few years now.Sloppy haphazzard coverage of the Ravens on game
day is horrendous.No professional analysis at all.I get much better
coverge on Fang's blog but I guess he took an early buyout.

--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Steve James
<deafhearingdudeinmd@...> wrote:
>
> I know what you mean. I buy the paper like an idiot and hope for
someone that actually has something with substance to say.
>
> --- On Wed, 12/31/08, Tom Stewart <hatepaste@...> wrote:
> From: Tom Stewart <hatepaste@...>
> Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Sun Coverage is...Pathetic?!?!?
> To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 2:37 PM
>
> Was just looking at the front page of the Sun's sports page, and
this is
> horrible.  You got the stupid Q&A's, what's being said around the
> league
> about the Ravens.  An article from Miami paper about "catching the
team
> fever", article about Pennington wins comeback player, and some
picks.
>
> Doesn't it seem like there should be some sort of article from a Sun
> staffer
> about the actual Ravens?  You know, besides the article about
Trevor Pryce
> working on a screenplay?  It just seems there should be something
about the
> coming game...
>
>
>
> Faceoff: Who gets more credit for the success in
> '08?<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
faceoff1231,0,6902022.column>
> Dec 31, 2008 07:49 -0500
>
>  A year after finishing 5-11, the Ravens ended the regular season
with an
> 11-5 record and will face the Miami Dolphins in the first round of
the NFL
> playoffs on Sunday at 1 p.m. Baltimore Sun reporters Candus Thomson
and Bill
> Ordine discuss who deserves more credit for the Ravens' success in
2008 --
> quarterback Joe Flacco (left) or coach John Harbaugh.
>
>    - *The picks:
> Ravens-Dolphins*<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
ravenspicks1230-mezz,0,2463155.storylink>
>
>
>    - *Poll: Ravens vs.
> Dolphins*<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
ravenspoll1228,0,3788661.poll>
>
>
>    - *How they stack up: Ravens (11-5) at Dolphins (11-5)
> *<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
ravensbox1229,0,7624204.story>
>
>
>    - *Baltimore vs. Miami: Rats vs. palmetto
> bugs*<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
sp.cities31dec31,0,1471898.story>
>
>
>    - Ravens' Pryce is a
> screenwriter<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
te.sp.pryce31dec31,0,6327341.story>
>    - Dolphins catching the team
> fever<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
sp.dolphins31dec31,0,2695310.story>
>    - Dolphins' Pennington wins Comeback Player
> award<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
comeback1231,0,2485855.story>
> Dec
>    31, 2008 13:55 -0500
>
>    Updated: 39 minutes ago
>
>
>  McGahee's mouth, not his feet, doing the
> running<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
maeselink1231,0,5470680.storylink>
>
>  *Rick Maese:* Running back's radio show comments speak volumes, but
> don't
> expect remarks to distract Ravens as they prepare to face Dolphins
>
>    - *Photos: Looking back -- past Ravens playoff
> games*<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
ravensplayoffs-pg,0,2412663.photogallery>
>
>
>    - *Need tickets? Click
> here<http://tickets.baltimoresun.com/ResultsGeneral.aspx?
stype=2&kwds=Baltimore%20Ravens>
>    *
>
>
>    - What they're saying about the
> Ravens<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
ravensroundup1230,0,4060116.story>
>    - Q&A with Ravens quarterback Troy
> Smith<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
sp.ravensqa31dec31,0,6693006.story>
>    - Ravens Q&A with Mike
> Preston<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-
prestonqa1230,0,7947280.story>
>
>
>    -  Orioles, Hendrickson agree to one-year, $1.5 million
> deal<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-
orioles1231,0,3433237.story>
> Dec
>    31, 2008 13:28 -0500
>
>    Updated: 1:28 p.m.
>     -  Sports Legends to host event with ex-O's Ripken,
> Murray<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/ripken/bal-
ripken31,0,4774062.story>
> Dec
>    31, 2008 11:31 -0500
>
>      -  College football: Scott lifts Terps to bowl win vs.
> Nevada<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-
sp.terpsfoot31dec31,0,4630433.story>
>    -  Charles Barkley arrested on suspicion of drunken
> driving<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/basketball/bal-
barkley1231,0,3972541.story>
> Dec
>    31, 2008 14:06 -0500
>
>    Updated: 28 minutes ago
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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>
> GROUP PAGE:   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaltimoRavens
>
> Baltimore Orioles group:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaltimOrioles
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I know what you mean. I buy the paper like an idiot and hope for someone that
actually has something with substance to say.

--- On Wed, 12/31/08, Tom Stewart <hatepaste@...> wrote:
From: Tom Stewart <hatepaste@...>
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Sun Coverage is...Pathetic?!?!?
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 2:37 PM

Was just looking at the front page of the Sun's sports page, and this is
horrible.  You got the stupid Q&A's, what's being said around the
league
about the Ravens.  An article from Miami paper about "catching the team
fever", article about Pennington wins comeback player, and some picks.

Doesn't it seem like there should be some sort of article from a Sun
staffer
about the actual Ravens?  You know, besides the article about Trevor Pryce
working on a screenplay?  It just seems there should be something about the
coming game...



Faceoff: Who gets more credit for the success in
'08?<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-faceoff1231,0,6902022.colum\
n>
Dec 31, 2008 07:49 -0500

  A year after finishing 5-11, the Ravens ended the regular season with an
11-5 record and will face the Miami Dolphins in the first round of the NFL
playoffs on Sunday at 1 p.m. Baltimore Sun reporters Candus Thomson and Bill
Ordine discuss who deserves more credit for the Ravens' success in 2008 --
quarterback Joe Flacco (left) or coach John Harbaugh.

    - *The picks:
Ravens-Dolphins*<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-ravenspicks1230\
-mezz,0,2463155.storylink>


    - *Poll: Ravens vs.
Dolphins*<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-ravenspoll1228,0,37886\
61.poll>


    - *How they stack up: Ravens (11-5) at Dolphins (11-5)
*<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-ravensbox1229,0,7624204.story>


    - *Baltimore vs. Miami: Rats vs. palmetto
bugs*<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.cities31dec31,0,1471898\
.story>


    - Ravens' Pryce is a
screenwriter<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-te.sp.pryce31dec31,\
0,6327341.story>
    - Dolphins catching the team
fever<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.dolphins31dec31,0,26953\
10.story>
    - Dolphins' Pennington wins Comeback Player
award<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-comeback1231,0,2485855.sto\
ry>
Dec
    31, 2008 13:55 -0500

    Updated: 39 minutes ago


  McGahee's mouth, not his feet, doing the
running<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-maeselink1231,0,5470680.\
storylink>

  *Rick Maese:* Running back's radio show comments speak volumes, but
don't
expect remarks to distract Ravens as they prepare to face Dolphins

    - *Photos: Looking back -- past Ravens playoff
games*<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-ravensplayoffs-pg,0,24126\
63.photogallery>


    - *Need tickets? Click
here<http://tickets.baltimoresun.com/ResultsGeneral.aspx?stype=2&kwds=Baltimore%\
20Ravens>
    *


    - What they're saying about the
Ravens<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-ravensroundup1230,0,40601\
16.story>
    - Q&A with Ravens quarterback Troy
Smith<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.ravensqa31dec31,0,66930\
06.story>
    - Ravens Q&A with Mike
Preston<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-prestonqa1230,0,7947280.\
story>


    -  Orioles, Hendrickson agree to one-year, $1.5 million
deal<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-orioles1231,0,3433237.story\
>
Dec
    31, 2008 13:28 -0500

    Updated: 1:28 p.m.
     -  Sports Legends to host event with ex-O's Ripken,
Murray<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/ripken/bal-ripken31,0,4774062\
.story>
Dec
    31, 2008 11:31 -0500

      -  College football: Scott lifts Terps to bowl win vs.
Nevada<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-sp.terpsfoot31dec\
31,0,4630433.story>
    -  Charles Barkley arrested on suspicion of drunken
driving<http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/basketball/bal-barkley1231,0,3972541.\
story>
Dec
    31, 2008 14:06 -0500

    Updated: 28 minutes ago


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