Based on an article from the Sun recently, it seems to be a bit more apparent
that Harbs wanted Stover back and Ozzie didnt.

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------Original Message------
From: <sczepp@...>
To: <BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, Nov 23, 2009 01:50 AM
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: Oh lord thank you for Coach Harbaugh

  He and his doghouse can go, if he brings Stover back in 2009 this team is 7-3
and not 5-5. That double time out was a killer. We are not seeing any difference
under Hrbaugh as we where under Billick, same damn offense can not score in the
redzone, sam damn 15 yard late hit flags and no throwing the ball down field.

--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Tom Stewart <hatepaste@...> wrote:
>
> why what did he do?
>
> I mean cundiff 5 for 6 field goals?  can't ask for much more.  you need to
> to punch one of those field goals into the end zone.
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:16 PM, <sczepp@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > He and his ef'n doghouse has to fucking go, I have had it with this
> > baffoon! He, Hauschka,Cundiff are 2009's trio of Bums.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




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Well Stover was probably 50-50 to hit the minnesota field goal.  That's the
only game where I think the kicker made a difference.

But offense you can blame on Cameron, he's the one calling the plays.  It
really comes down to not having a big play receiver.  Mason is good, but
he's good at exploiting zones and that sort of thing.  Open space is where
he makes a difference.



On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:50 PM, <sczepp@...> wrote:

>
>
> He and his doghouse can go, if he brings Stover back in 2009 this team is
> 7-3 and not 5-5. That double time out was a killer. We are not seeing any
> difference under Hrbaugh as we where under Billick, same damn offense can
> not score in the redzone, sam damn 15 yard late hit flags and no throwing
> the ball down field.
>
>
> --- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com <BaltimoRavens%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Tom Stewart <hatepaste@...> wrote:
> >
> > why what did he do?
> >
> > I mean cundiff 5 for 6 field goals? can't ask for much more. you need to
> > to punch one of those field goals into the end zone.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:16 PM, <sczepp@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > He and his ef'n doghouse has to fucking go, I have had it with this
> > > baffoon! He, Hauschka,Cundiff are 2009's trio of Bums.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

He and his doghouse can go, if he brings Stover back in 2009 this team is 7-3
and not 5-5. That double time out was a killer. We are not seeing any difference
under Hrbaugh as we where under Billick, same damn offense can not score in the
redzone, sam damn 15 yard late hit flags and no throwing the ball down field.

--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Tom Stewart <hatepaste@...> wrote:
>
> why what did he do?
>
> I mean cundiff 5 for 6 field goals?  can't ask for much more.  you need to
> to punch one of those field goals into the end zone.
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:16 PM, <sczepp@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > He and his ef'n doghouse has to fucking go, I have had it with this
> > baffoon! He, Hauschka,Cundiff are 2009's trio of Bums.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

why what did he do?

I mean cundiff 5 for 6 field goals?  can't ask for much more.  you need to
to punch one of those field goals into the end zone.

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:16 PM, <sczepp@...> wrote:

>
>
> He and his ef'n doghouse has to fucking go, I have had it with this
> baffoon! He, Hauschka,Cundiff are 2009's trio of Bums.
>
>
>


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He and his ef'n doghouse has to fucking go, I have had it with this baffoon! He,
Hauschka,Cundiff are 2009's trio of Bums.

The other thing aout Hauschka  not even talked about was he couldn't even put
kickoffs in the endzone.Stover could have kicked the goddamn ball to the 10 yard
line.This was the worst offseason ever for Ozzie.Yo never know,with Harbaugh an
ex-special teams coach maybe he wanted the extra guy instead of keeping two
kickers but letting Stover go was one of the dumbest moves since Fang traded for
Glenn Davis.

--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, sczepp@... wrote:
>
> That goddam Stone cost us a possible game winning FG in the championship game.
>
> --- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Steve James <deafhearingdudeinmd@>
wrote:
> >
> > We had penalty problems last year as well. I mentioned at the Scout forum
that I gave Harbuagh a little leeway cause it's not like he could completely gut
the team without paying a penalty. As far as him and Ozzie not seeing eye to
eye, don't know what I could say about that yet but it's funny that Ozzie said
that he could see Hauschka being a great kicker but at the same time Harbs said
he had wished Stover was still with the team.
> >  
> > (last line)
> >  
> > http://tinyurl.com/yz3oyp4
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 11/18/09, hbc_7840 <fang_guy@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@>
> > Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: Bye Bye Hauschka
> > To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 3:23 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Preston points out that Harbaugh was a hardass last year but not this
year.  Has anyone noticed how many penalties we get every game?  I'ver been
wondering about that myself.  Too many penalties is a Billick thing and I hated
it then and I hate it now.  I'll grant you that there are only so many times you
can tell Foxworth to stop holding, but last year he would have benched him for a
game or two.
> >
> > There's something going on in the Castle, and it's not pleasant.  I'm
wondering if Ozzie and Harbs are not seeing eye to eye about something (or
everything). 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "Steve James" <deafhearingdudeinmd@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I still stand by the belief that although Stover was getting older he was
still a top 5, maybe 3 kicker in all of the NFL. Hauschka should not have been
pressured as he was with the team last season and was given more chances than
Sidney Ponson with the Orioles, and the Os thought he had a DUI twice and not
three times.
> > >
> > > ----------
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > nt.
> > > >
> > > >
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-ravenskicker1118,0,1490296.story
> > > >
> > > > Ravens sign Cundiff to replace Hauschka
> > > > Veteran kicker was 6 of 6 on field-goal attempts this season with Browns
> > > > The Ravens signed Billy Cundiff to be their new kicker, the team
announced Wednesday.
> > > >
> > > > The addition of Cundiff comes one day after the Ravens released Steve
Hauschka, who missed three of his last seven field goals and had an extra point
blocked.
> > > >
> > > > Cundiff, 29, has made 66 of 89 career field goals (74.2 percent). He
last played for the Cleveland Browns (beating out Matt Stoverin a workout), but
he was released Nov. 3 after Phil Dawsonrecovered from a pulled right calf
muscle. Cundiff converted all six field goals for the Browns this season.
> > > >
> > > > The Ravens worked out Cundiff and Nugent last week. The eight-year
veteran has played for three teams during the regular season:Dallas Cowboys
(2002-05), New Orleans Saints (2006) and Cleveland Browns (2009).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       
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I'm thinking Indy wins 3-0 with you-know-who kicking the game winner.

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...> wrote:


From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...>
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Offical Fang Prediction
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:21 PM


Irsay Shitheads - 40, Ravens - 0.



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Irsay Shitheads - 40, Ravens - 0.

That goddam Stone cost us a possible game winning FG in the championship game.

--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Steve James <deafhearingdudeinmd@...>
wrote:
>
> We had penalty problems last year as well. I mentioned at the Scout forum that
I gave Harbuagh a little leeway cause it's not like he could completely gut the
team without paying a penalty. As far as him and Ozzie not seeing eye to eye,
don't know what I could say about that yet but it's funny that Ozzie said that
he could see Hauschka being a great kicker but at the same time Harbs said he
had wished Stover was still with the team.
>  
> (last line)
>  
> http://tinyurl.com/yz3oyp4
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 11/18/09, hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...>
> Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: Bye Bye Hauschka
> To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 3:23 PM
>
>
>
>
> Mike Preston points out that Harbaugh was a hardass last year but not this
year.  Has anyone noticed how many penalties we get every game?  I'ver been
wondering about that myself.  Too many penalties is a Billick thing and I hated
it then and I hate it now.  I'll grant you that there are only so many times you
can tell Foxworth to stop holding, but last year he would have benched him for a
game or two.
>
> There's something going on in the Castle, and it's not pleasant.  I'm
wondering if Ozzie and Harbs are not seeing eye to eye about something (or
everything). 
>
>
>
>
> --- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "Steve James" <deafhearingdudeinmd@>
wrote:
> >
> > I still stand by the belief that although Stover was getting older he was
still a top 5, maybe 3 kicker in all of the NFL. Hauschka should not have been
pressured as he was with the team last season and was given more chances than
Sidney Ponson with the Orioles, and the Os thought he had a DUI twice and not
three times.
> >
> > ----------
> > Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email
>
>
>
>
> nt.
> > >
> > >
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-ravenskicker1118,0,1490296.story
> > >
> > > Ravens sign Cundiff to replace Hauschka
> > > Veteran kicker was 6 of 6 on field-goal attempts this season with Browns
> > > The Ravens signed Billy Cundiff to be their new kicker, the team announced
Wednesday.
> > >
> > > The addition of Cundiff comes one day after the Ravens released Steve
Hauschka, who missed three of his last seven field goals and had an extra point
blocked.
> > >
> > > Cundiff, 29, has made 66 of 89 career field goals (74.2 percent). He last
played for the Cleveland Browns (beating out Matt Stoverin a workout), but he
was released Nov. 3 after Phil Dawsonrecovered from a pulled right calf muscle.
Cundiff converted all six field goals for the Browns this season.
> > >
> > > The Ravens worked out Cundiff and Nugent last week. The eight-year veteran
has played for three teams during the regular season:Dallas Cowboys (2002-05),
New Orleans Saints (2006) and Cleveland Browns (2009).
> > >
> > >
> > >       
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
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> >
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Well, I watched Cundiff's interview with the press and he seems like a nice kid
who understands the truth about the kicking business in the NFL, which is that
the bottom line is that you kick the FGs or you don't, and, if you don't, you're
gone, no excusers need apply.




--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Steve James <deafhearingdudeinmd@...>
wrote:
>
> We had penalty problems last year as well. I mentioned at the Scout forum that
I gave Harbuagh a little leeway cause it's not like he could completely gut the
team without paying a penalty. As far as him and Ozzie not seeing eye to eye,
don't know what I could say about that yet but it's funny that Ozzie said that
he could see Hauschka being a great kicker but at the same time Harbs said he
had wished Stover was still with the team.
>  
> (last line)
>  
> http://tinyurl.com/yz3oyp4





0 <fang_guy@...>
> Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: Bye Bye Hauschka
> To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 3:23 PM
>
>
>
>
> Mike Preston points out that Harbaugh was a hardass last year but not this
year.  Has anyone noticed how many penalties we get every game?  I'ver been
wondering about that myself.  Too many penalties is a Billick thing and I hated
it then and I hate it now.  I'll grant you that there are only so many times you
can tell Foxworth to stop holding, but last year he would have benched him for a
game or two.
>
> There's something going on in the Castle, and it's not pleasant.  I'm
wondering if Ozzie and Harbs are not seeing eye to eye about something (or
everything). 
>
>
>
>
> --- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "Steve James" <deafhearingdudeinmd@>
wrote:
> >
> > I still stand by the belief that although Stover was getting older he was
still a top 5, maybe 3 kicker in all of the NFL. Hauschka should not have been
pressured as he was with the team last season and was given more chances than
Sidney Ponson with the Orioles, and the Os thought he had a DUI twice and not
three times.
> >
> > ----------
> > Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email
>
>
>
>
> nt.
> > >
> > >
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-ravenskicker1118,0,1490296.story
> > >
> > > Ravens sign Cundiff to replace Hauschka
> > > Veteran kicker was 6 of 6 on field-goal attempts this season with Browns
> > > The Ravens signed Billy Cundiff to be their new kicker, the team announced
Wednesday.
> > >
> > > The addition of Cundiff comes one day after the Ravens released Steve
Hauschka, who missed three of his last seven field goals and had an extra point
blocked.
> > >
> > > Cundiff, 29, has made 66 of 89 career field goals (74.2 percent). He last
played for the Cleveland Browns (beating out Matt Stoverin a workout), but he
was released Nov. 3 after Phil Dawsonrecovered from a pulled right calf muscle.
Cundiff converted all six field goals for the Browns this season.
> > >
> > > The Ravens worked out Cundiff and Nugent last week. The eight-year veteran
has played for three teams during the regular season:Dallas Cowboys (2002-05),
New Orleans Saints (2006) and Cleveland Browns (2009).
> > >
> > >
> > >       
> > >
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> > >
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We had penalty problems last year as well. I mentioned at the Scout forum that I
gave Harbuagh a little leeway cause it's not like he could completely gut the
team without paying a penalty. As far as him and Ozzie not seeing eye to eye,
don't know what I could say about that yet but it's funny that Ozzie said that
he could see Hauschka being a great kicker but at the same time Harbs said he
had wished Stover was still with the team.
 
(last line)
 
http://tinyurl.com/yz3oyp4



--- On Wed, 11/18/09, hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...> wrote:


From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...>
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: Bye Bye Hauschka
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 3:23 PM




Mike Preston points out that Harbaugh was a hardass last year but not this
year.  Has anyone noticed how many penalties we get every game?  I'ver been
wondering about that myself.  Too many penalties is a Billick thing and I hated
it then and I hate it now.  I'll grant you that there are only so many times you
can tell Foxworth to stop holding, but last year he would have benched him for a
game or two.

There's something going on in the Castle, and it's not pleasant.  I'm wondering
if Ozzie and Harbs are not seeing eye to eye about something (or everything). 




--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "Steve James" <deafhearingdudeinmd@...>
wrote:
>
> I still stand by the belief that although Stover was getting older he was
still a top 5, maybe 3 kicker in all of the NFL. Hauschka should not have been
pressured as he was with the team last season and was given more chances than
Sidney Ponson with the Orioles, and the Os thought he had a DUI twice and not
three times.
>
> ----------
> Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email




nt.
> >
> >
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-ravenskicker1118,0,1490296.story
> >
> > Ravens sign Cundiff to replace Hauschka
> > Veteran kicker was 6 of 6 on field-goal attempts this season with Browns
> > The Ravens signed Billy Cundiff to be their new kicker, the team announced
Wednesday.
> >
> > The addition of Cundiff comes one day after the Ravens released Steve
Hauschka, who missed three of his last seven field goals and had an extra point
blocked.
> >
> > Cundiff, 29, has made 66 of 89 career field goals (74.2 percent). He last
played for the Cleveland Browns (beating out Matt Stoverin a workout), but he
was released Nov. 3 after Phil Dawsonrecovered from a pulled right calf muscle.
Cundiff converted all six field goals for the Browns this season.
> >
> > The Ravens worked out Cundiff and Nugent last week. The eight-year veteran
has played for three teams during the regular season:Dallas Cowboys (2002-05),
New Orleans Saints (2006) and Cleveland Browns (2009).
> >
> >
> >       
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Mike Preston points out that Harbaugh was a hardass last year but not this year.
Has anyone noticed how many penalties we get every game?  I'ver been wondering
about that myself.  Too many penalties is a Billick thing and I hated it then
and I hate it now.  I'll grant you that there are only so many times you can
tell Foxworth to stop holding, but last year he would have benched him for a
game or two.

There's something going on in the Castle, and it's not pleasant.  I'm wondering
if Ozzie and Harbs are not seeing eye to eye about something (or everything).




--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "Steve James" <deafhearingdudeinmd@...>
wrote:
>
> I still stand by the belief that although Stover was getting older he was
still a top 5, maybe 3 kicker in all of the NFL. Hauschka should not have been
pressured as he was with the team last season and was given more chances than
Sidney Ponson with the Orioles, and the Os thought he had a DUI twice and not
three times.
>
> ----------
> Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email




nt.
> >
> >
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-ravenskicker1118,0,1490296.story
> >
> > Ravens sign Cundiff to replace Hauschka
> > Veteran kicker was 6 of 6 on field-goal attempts this season with Browns
> > The Ravens signed Billy Cundiff to be their new kicker, the team announced
Wednesday.
> >
> > The addition of Cundiff comes one day after the Ravens released Steve
Hauschka, who missed three of his last seven field goals and had an extra point
blocked.
> >
> > Cundiff, 29, has made 66 of 89 career field goals (74.2 percent). He last
played for the Cleveland Browns (beating out Matt Stoverin a workout), but he
was released Nov. 3 after Phil Dawsonrecovered from a pulled right calf muscle.
Cundiff converted all six field goals for the Browns this season.
> >
> > The Ravens worked out Cundiff and Nugent last week. The eight-year veteran
has played for three teams during the regular season:Dallas Cowboys (2002-05),
New Orleans Saints (2006) and Cleveland Browns (2009).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
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>

I still stand by the belief that although Stover was getting older he was still
a top 5, maybe 3 kicker in all of the NFL. Hauschka should not have been
pressured as he was with the team last season and was given more chances than
Sidney Ponson with the Orioles, and the Os thought he had a DUI twice and not
three times.

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------Original Message------
From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...>
To: <BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 06:17 PM
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: Bye Bye Hauschka






This one is Harbaugh's baby.  Every coach has his little idiocyncrisies, and
Harbaugh's was Stover.  He wanted him gone and now he's gone and his loss cost
us at least one game, maybe more.

He has to take the blame for our being in the same boat as every other team on
earth, which is constantly having to worry about your kicker.  Having an
automatic was a really nice perk.  Stover was getting to the end but he wasn't
there yet.

I would also remain in touch with Hauschka.  He had enormous pressure from
day-1, having to replace Stover.  In another year, he might be the best in the
game, who knows?  There is no other position more suited for the proverbial
"What have you done for me lately?" than the kicker.




--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Econ <scat19@...> wrote:
>
> I still rather have Mike Nugent.
>
> http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-ravenskicker1118,0,1490296.story
>
> Ravens sign Cundiff to replace Hauschka
> Veteran kicker was 6 of 6 on field-goal attempts this season with Browns
> The Ravens signed Billy Cundiff to be their new kicker, the team announced
Wednesday.
>
> The addition of Cundiff comes one day after the Ravens released Steve
Hauschka, who missed three of his last seven field goals and had an extra point
blocked.
>
> Cundiff, 29, has made 66 of 89 career field goals (74.2 percent). He last
played for the Cleveland Browns (beating out Matt Stoverin a workout), but he
was released Nov. 3 after Phil Dawsonrecovered from a pulled right calf muscle.
Cundiff converted all six field goals for the Browns this season.
>
> The Ravens worked out Cundiff and Nugent last week. The eight-year veteran has
played for three teams during the regular season:Dallas Cowboys (2002-05), New
Orleans Saints (2006) and Cleveland Browns (2009).
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




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This one is Harbaugh's baby.  Every coach has his little idiocyncrisies, and
Harbaugh's was Stover.  He wanted him gone and now he's gone and his loss cost
us at least one game, maybe more.

He has to take the blame for our being in the same boat as every other team on
earth, which is constantly having to worry about your kicker.  Having an
automatic was a really nice perk.  Stover was getting to the end but he wasn't
there yet.

I would also remain in touch with Hauschka.  He had enormous pressure from
day-1, having to replace Stover.  In another year, he might be the best in the
game, who knows?  There is no other position more suited for the proverbial
"What have you done for me lately?" than the kicker.




--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Econ <scat19@...> wrote:
>
> I still rather have Mike Nugent.
>
> http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-ravenskicker1118,0,1490296.story
>
> Ravens sign Cundiff to replace Hauschka
> Veteran kicker was 6 of 6 on field-goal attempts this season with Browns
> The Ravens signed Billy Cundiff to be their new kicker, the team announced
Wednesday.
>
> The addition of Cundiff comes one day after the Ravens released Steve
Hauschka, who missed three of his last seven field goals and had an extra point
blocked.
>
> Cundiff, 29, has made 66 of 89 career field goals (74.2 percent). He last
played for the Cleveland Browns (beating out Matt Stoverin a workout), but he
was released Nov. 3 after Phil Dawsonrecovered from a pulled right calf muscle.
Cundiff converted all six field goals for the Browns this season.
>
> The Ravens worked out Cundiff and Nugent last week. The eight-year veteran has
played for three teams during the regular season:Dallas Cowboys (2002-05), New
Orleans Saints (2006) and Cleveland Browns (2009).
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Graham Gano will be available afetr next week when the UFL is done, 9 of 11
this season ith a long of 53yds. Yes it is like Single A ball, at the least I
think they grab him and palce him o nthe preactice squad but if by chance the
Ravens make a run, you bet your ass they sign Stover when Vinatari comes back.

--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Econ <scat19@...> wrote:
>
> I still rather have Mike Nugent.
>
> http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-ravenskicker1118,0,1490296.story
>
> Ravens sign Cundiff to replace Hauschka
> Veteran kicker was 6 of 6 on field-goal attempts this season with Browns
> The Ravens signed Billy Cundiff to be their new kicker, the team announced
Wednesday.
>
> The addition of Cundiff comes one day after the Ravens released Steve
Hauschka, who missed three of his last seven field goals and had an extra point
blocked.
>
> Cundiff, 29, has made 66 of 89 career field goals (74.2 percent). He last
played for the Cleveland Browns (beating out Matt Stoverin a workout), but he
was released Nov. 3 after Phil Dawsonrecovered from a pulled right calf muscle.
Cundiff converted all six field goals for the Browns this season.
>
> The Ravens worked out Cundiff and Nugent last week. The eight-year veteran has
played for three teams during the regular season:Dallas Cowboys (2002-05), New
Orleans Saints (2006) and Cleveland Browns (2009).
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I still rather have Mike Nugent.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-ravenskicker1118,0,1490296.story

Ravens sign Cundiff to replace Hauschka
Veteran kicker was 6 of 6 on field-goal attempts this season with Browns
The Ravens signed Billy Cundiff to be their new kicker, the team announced
Wednesday.

The addition of Cundiff comes one day after the Ravens released Steve Hauschka,
who missed three of his last seven field goals and had an extra point blocked.

Cundiff, 29, has made 66 of 89 career field goals (74.2 percent). He last played
for the Cleveland Browns (beating out Matt Stoverin a workout), but he was
released Nov. 3 after Phil Dawsonrecovered from a pulled right calf muscle.
Cundiff converted all six field goals for the Browns this season.

The Ravens worked out Cundiff and Nugent last week. The eight-year veteran has
played for three teams during the regular season:Dallas Cowboys (2002-05), New
Orleans Saints (2006) and Cleveland Browns (2009).




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The Ravens almost made them looks like a professional franchise.

To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
From: sczepp@...
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:16:26 +0000
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Dreadful win




























        Lets see how the Ravens respond to that awul game yesterday from what
friends arwe telling me as I missed thegame last night. The true character has
to come from this point on if not 8-8 will be the record come the end of
game#16. Geez I almost believe this offense would of been perfect for Brian
Billick.....


















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CMAC has signed a deal with the Saints. We will see how well he can play after
being off for 13 months, I am pulling for him to get his life on track more so
then playing football.

It was a crappy win for us. I watched it until about the last 3 minutes of the
game. Couldn't believe both teams were tied fricking 0-0 at halftime.

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, sczepp@... <sczepp@...> wrote:


From: sczepp@... <sczepp@...>
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Dreadful win
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 10:16 AM


Lets see how the Ravens respond to that awul game yesterday from what friends
arwe telling me as I missed thegame last night. The true character has to come
from this point on if not 8-8 will be the record come the end of game#16. Geez I
almost believe this offense would of been perfect for Brian Billick.....



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Everyone will be getting their wish, Stover will be playing next game ...



Econ



________________________________
From: "sczepp@..." <sczepp@...>
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 10:16:26 AM
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Dreadful win


Lets see how the Ravens respond to that awul game yesterday from what friends
arwe telling me as I missed thegame last night. The true character has to come
from this point on if not 8-8 will be the record come the end of game#16. Geez I
almost believe this offense would of been perfect for Brian Billick.....







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Lets see how the Ravens respond to that awul game yesterday from what friends
arwe telling me as I missed thegame last night. The true character has to come
from this point on if not 8-8 will be the record come the end of game#16. Geez I
almost believe this offense would of been perfect for Brian Billick.....

Normally, I'd say it was the usual case of the Ravens playing up to - or down to
- the quality of their competition.  But they have been so bad recently, I think
it's more likely that they were just plain lousy but were lucky enough to play
someone even worse.




--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, michael <msoit@...> wrote:
>
> you call that game winning ULGY...




lmost no good games every week.My station carried the damn redskin denver game
yesterday when the bungls steelers was on.8 games left we have to go 6-2 to make
the playoffs and hope sandeigo collapses.
> > > > --- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "hbc_7840" <fang_guy@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I posted some opinions about the University of Maryland sports
program, in which I trashed Ralph Friedgen, Gary Williams, and Debbie Yow.
Ultimately it's Yow's fault for losing sight of the big ticket items for the
sake of Title IX sports, especially considering that they are not mutually
exclusive, but Ralph and Gary are not helping to right the simking ship either,
that's for sure.
> > > > >
> > > > > If it's still around here somewhere, you should read what I wrote,
becasue we lost 36-09 to Virginia Tech today, making us 2-8 on the season and
eliminating us from bowl consideration, a borderline impossibility considering
how many bowl games there are.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh well, so be it. I never expected to have to add John Harbaugh to
that list, either.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

you call that game winning ULGY...

--- On Mon, 11/16/09, hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...> wrote:


From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...>
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: And the hits just keep on coming.....
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 3:52 PM


 





Lol. I'll give you a hint. It was not Steve Hauschka.

-- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, sczepp@... wrote:
>
> Who hit the winning point for the Colts?

p on coming.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The Bengals swept both the Steelers and the Ravens. How amazing is that? But
it might help us with the wildcard, even though it won't because we cannot beat
the Steelers even once, let alone twice.
> >
> > I keep hearing about this blown call but I don't know what it was. I'll have
to research it.
> >
> > --- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "joes06" <kingjoey@ .> wrote:
> > >
> > > 3 of the Ravens next 4 games are on at night which means I'll miss them.
to get to the playoffs they're going to have to beat the steelers twice.Looks
like the bungles are for real,Lewis has them playing sky high.
> > > What a blown call by bellichek last night. How do you not punt in that
situation.This is the worst year I can remember for being so many lousy teams in
the league and almost no good games every week.My station carried the damn
redskin denver game yesterday when the bungls steelers was on.8 games left we
have to go 6-2 to make the playoffs and hope sandeigo collapses.
> > > --- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "hbc_7840" <fang_guy@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I posted some opinions about the University of Maryland sports program,
in which I trashed Ralph Friedgen, Gary Williams, and Debbie Yow. Ultimately
it's Yow's fault for losing sight of the big ticket items for the sake of Title
IX sports, especially considering that they are not mutually exclusive, but
Ralph and Gary are not helping to right the simking ship either, that's for
sure.
> > > >
> > > > If it's still around here somewhere, you should read what I wrote,
becasue we lost 36-09 to Virginia Tech today, making us 2-8 on the season and
eliminating us from bowl consideration, a borderline impossibility considering
how many bowl games there are.
> > > >
> > > > Oh well, so be it. I never expected to have to add John Harbaugh to that
list, either.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>











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Lol.  I'll give you a hint.  It was not Steve Hauschka.


-- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, sczepp@... wrote:
>
>  Who hit the winning point for the Colts?




p on coming.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The Bengals swept both the Steelers and the Ravens.  How amazing is that? 
But it might help us with the wildcard, even though it won't because we cannot
beat the Steelers even once, let alone twice.
> >
> > I keep hearing about this blown call but I don't know what it was.  I'll
have to research it.
> >
> > --- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "joes06" <kingjoey@ .> wrote:
> > >
> > > 3 of the Ravens next 4 games are on at night which means I'll miss them.
to get to the playoffs they're going to have to beat the steelers twice.Looks
like the bungles are for real,Lewis has them playing sky high.
> > > What a blown call by bellichek last night. How do you not punt in that
situation.This is the worst year I can remember for being so many lousy teams in
the league and almost no good games every week.My station carried the damn
redskin denver game yesterday when the bungls steelers was on.8 games left we
have to go 6-2 to make the playoffs and hope sandeigo collapses.
> > > --- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "hbc_7840" <fang_guy@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I posted some opinions about the University of Maryland sports program,
in which I trashed Ralph Friedgen, Gary Williams, and Debbie Yow.  Ultimately
it's Yow's fault for losing sight of the big ticket items for the sake of Title
IX sports, especially considering that they are not mutually exclusive, but
Ralph and Gary are not helping to right the simking ship either, that's for
sure.
> > > >
> > > > If it's still around here somewhere, you should read what I wrote,
becasue we lost 36-09 to Virginia Tech today, making us 2-8 on the season and
eliminating us from bowl consideration, a borderline impossibility considering
how many bowl games there are.
> > > >
> > > > Oh well, so be it.  I never expected to have to add John Harbaugh to
that list, either.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

It's said that Pickett's Charge at Gettysburg was the price the south paid for
Robert E. Lee.  Same thing here; this is the price the Patriots pay for having
Bill Belichick as their coach.

I would add that much of the complaining would have to be in
retrospect/hindsight.  Who among us would really think that Billy would miss a
4-and-2 call?  Still, if you think it through, I'm not too sure that giving
Peyton 1-and-ten on a 29-yard field to play with is not brilliant.

Damn shame though.  Even after all these years, I still look forward to the
Colts getting beaten no matter who the opponent, especially when the opponent is
the one they play next weekend.




--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Econ <scat19@...> wrote:
>
> Bellichek went for it on a 4th and 2 with about 2:03 remaining at their 28
with a 6 point lead.  It was a big balls call.  If they would have converted it,
they would have called him a genius.  IMO, if I would have known I was going to
go for it on 4th down, I would have done 2 QB sneaks in a row since it was 3rd
and 2.
>
>
> Econ
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...>
> To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 11:44:49 AM
> Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: And the hits just keep on coming.....
>
>
>
>
> The Bengals swept both the Steelers and the Ravens.  How amazing is that?  But
it might help us with the wildcard, even though it won't because we cannot beat
the Steelers even once, let alone twice.
>
> I keep hearing about this blown call but I don't know what it was.  I'll have
to research it.
>
> --- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "joes06" <kingjoey@ .> wrote:
> >
> > 3 of the Ravens next 4 games are on at night which means I'll miss them. to
get to the playoffs they're going to have to beat the steelers twice.Looks like
the bungles are for real,Lewis has them playing sky high.
> > What a blown call by bellichek last night. How do you not punt in that
situation.This is the worst year I can remember for being so many lousy teams in
the league and almost no good games every week.My station carried the damn
redskin denver game yesterday when the bungls steelers was on.8 games left we
have to go 6-2 to make the playoffs and hope sandeigo collapses.
> > --- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "hbc_7840" <fang_guy@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I posted some opinions about the University of Maryland sports program, in
which I trashed Ralph Friedgen, Gary Williams, and Debbie Yow.  Ultimately it's
Yow's fault for losing sight of the big ticket items for the sake of Title IX
sports, especially considering that they are not mutually exclusive, but Ralph
and Gary are not helping to right the simking ship either, that's for sure.
> > >
> > > If it's still around here somewhere, you should read what I wrote, becasue
we lost 36-09 to Virginia Tech today, making us 2-8 on the season and
eliminating us from bowl consideration, a borderline impossibility considering
how many bowl games there are.
> > >
> > > Oh well, so be it.  I never expected to have to add John Harbaugh to that
list, either.
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

The short distance specialist.


Econ



________________________________
From: "sczepp@..." <sczepp@...>
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 12:53:53 PM
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: And the hits just keep on coming.....


Who hit the winning point for the Colts?

--- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, Econ <scat19@...> wrote:
>
> Bellichek went for it on a 4th and 2 with about 2:03 remaining at their 28
with a 6 point lead.  It was a big balls call.  If they would have converted it,
they would have called him a genius.  IMO, if I would have known I was going to
go for it on 4th down, I would have done 2 QB sneaks in a row since it was 3rd
and 2.
>
>
> Econ
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@.. .>
> To: BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 11:44:49 AM
> Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: And the hits just keep on coming.....
>
>
>
>
> The Bengals swept both the Steelers and the Ravens.  How amazing is that?  But
it might help us with the wildcard, even though it won't because we cannot beat
the Steelers even once, let alone twice.
>
> I keep hearing about this blown call but I don't know what it was.  I'll have
to research it.
>
> --- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "joes06" <kingjoey@ .> wrote:
> >
> > 3 of the Ravens next 4 games are on at night which means I'll miss them. to
get to the playoffs they're going to have to beat the steelers twice.Looks like
the bungles are for real,Lewis has them playing sky high.
> > What a blown call by bellichek last night. How do you not punt in that
situation.This is the worst year I can remember for being so many lousy teams in
the league and almost no good games every week.My station carried the damn
redskin denver game yesterday when the bungls steelers was on.8 games left we
have to go 6-2 to make the playoffs and hope sandeigo collapses.
> > --- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "hbc_7840" <fang_guy@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I posted some opinions about the University of Maryland sports program, in
which I trashed Ralph Friedgen, Gary Williams, and Debbie Yow.  Ultimately it's
Yow's fault for losing sight of the big ticket items for the sake of Title IX
sports, especially considering that they are not mutually exclusive, but Ralph
and Gary are not helping to right the simking ship either, that's for sure.
> > >
> > > If it's still around here somewhere, you should read what I wrote, becasue
we lost 36-09 to Virginia Tech today, making us 2-8 on the season and
eliminating us from bowl consideration, a borderline impossibility considering
how many bowl games there are.
> > >
> > > Oh well, so be it.  I never expected to have to add John Harbaugh to that
list, either.
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

He had done that kind of call against us as well before so it's not like he just
suddenly came up with it. You're right though, if they had made first down he
would have been called a genius again.

--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Econ <scat19@...> wrote:


From: Econ <scat19@...>
Subject: Re: [BaltimoRavens] Re: And the hits just keep on coming.....
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 12:09 PM


Bellichek went for it on a 4th and 2 with about 2:03 remaining at their 28 with
a 6 point lead.  It was a big balls call.  If they would have converted it, they
would have called him a genius.  IMO, if I would have known I was going to go
for it on 4th down, I would have done 2 QB sneaks in a row since it was 3rd and
2.


Econ



________________________________
From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...>
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 11:44:49 AM
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: And the hits just keep on coming.....

 


The Bengals swept both the Steelers and the Ravens.  How amazing is that?  But
it might help us with the wildcard, even though it won't because we cannot beat
the Steelers even once, let alone twice.

I keep hearing about this blown call but I don't know what it was.  I'll have to
research it.

--- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "joes06" <kingjoey@.. .> wrote:
>
> 3 of the Ravens next 4 games are on at night which means I'll miss them. to
get to the playoffs they're going to have to beat the steelers twice.Looks like
the bungles are for real,Lewis has them playing sky high.
> What a blown call by bellichek last night. How do you not punt in that
situation.This is the worst year I can remember for being so many lousy teams in
the league and almost no good games every week.My station carried the damn
redskin denver game yesterday when the bungls steelers was on.8 games left we
have to go 6-2 to make the playoffs and hope sandeigo collapses.
> --- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "hbc_7840" <fang_guy@> wrote:
> >
> > I posted some opinions about the University of Maryland sports program, in
which I trashed Ralph Friedgen, Gary Williams, and Debbie Yow.  Ultimately it's
Yow's fault for losing sight of the big ticket items for the sake of Title IX
sports, especially considering that they are not mutually exclusive, but Ralph
and Gary are not helping to right the simking ship either, that's for sure.
> >
> > If it's still around here somewhere, you should read what I wrote, becasue
we lost 36-09 to Virginia Tech today, making us 2-8 on the season and
eliminating us from bowl consideration, a borderline impossibility considering
how many bowl games there are.
> >
> > Oh well, so be it.  I never expected to have to add John Harbaugh to that
list, either.
> >
>





     

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Who hit the winning point for the Colts?

--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, Econ <scat19@...> wrote:
>
> Bellichek went for it on a 4th and 2 with about 2:03 remaining at their 28
with a 6 point lead.  It was a big balls call.  If they would have converted it,
they would have called him a genius.  IMO, if I would have known I was going to
go for it on 4th down, I would have done 2 QB sneaks in a row since it was 3rd
and 2.
>
>
> Econ
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...>
> To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 11:44:49 AM
> Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: And the hits just keep on coming.....
>
>
>
>
> The Bengals swept both the Steelers and the Ravens.  How amazing is that?  But
it might help us with the wildcard, even though it won't because we cannot beat
the Steelers even once, let alone twice.
>
> I keep hearing about this blown call but I don't know what it was.  I'll have
to research it.
>
> --- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "joes06" <kingjoey@ .> wrote:
> >
> > 3 of the Ravens next 4 games are on at night which means I'll miss them. to
get to the playoffs they're going to have to beat the steelers twice.Looks like
the bungles are for real,Lewis has them playing sky high.
> > What a blown call by bellichek last night. How do you not punt in that
situation.This is the worst year I can remember for being so many lousy teams in
the league and almost no good games every week.My station carried the damn
redskin denver game yesterday when the bungls steelers was on.8 games left we
have to go 6-2 to make the playoffs and hope sandeigo collapses.
> > --- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "hbc_7840" <fang_guy@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I posted some opinions about the University of Maryland sports program, in
which I trashed Ralph Friedgen, Gary Williams, and Debbie Yow.  Ultimately it's
Yow's fault for losing sight of the big ticket items for the sake of Title IX
sports, especially considering that they are not mutually exclusive, but Ralph
and Gary are not helping to right the simking ship either, that's for sure.
> > >
> > > If it's still around here somewhere, you should read what I wrote, becasue
we lost 36-09 to Virginia Tech today, making us 2-8 on the season and
eliminating us from bowl consideration, a borderline impossibility considering
how many bowl games there are.
> > >
> > > Oh well, so be it.  I never expected to have to add John Harbaugh to that
list, either.
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Bellichek went for it on a 4th and 2 with about 2:03 remaining at their 28 with
a 6 point lead.  It was a big balls call.  If they would have converted it, they
would have called him a genius.  IMO, if I would have known I was going to go
for it on 4th down, I would have done 2 QB sneaks in a row since it was 3rd and
2.


Econ



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From: hbc_7840 <fang_guy@...>
To: BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 11:44:49 AM
Subject: [BaltimoRavens] Re: And the hits just keep on coming.....




The Bengals swept both the Steelers and the Ravens.  How amazing is that?  But
it might help us with the wildcard, even though it won't because we cannot beat
the Steelers even once, let alone twice.

I keep hearing about this blown call but I don't know what it was.  I'll have to
research it.

--- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "joes06" <kingjoey@.. .> wrote:
>
> 3 of the Ravens next 4 games are on at night which means I'll miss them. to
get to the playoffs they're going to have to beat the steelers twice.Looks like
the bungles are for real,Lewis has them playing sky high.
> What a blown call by bellichek last night. How do you not punt in that
situation.This is the worst year I can remember for being so many lousy teams in
the league and almost no good games every week.My station carried the damn
redskin denver game yesterday when the bungls steelers was on.8 games left we
have to go 6-2 to make the playoffs and hope sandeigo collapses.
> --- In BaltimoRavens@ yahoogroups. com, "hbc_7840" <fang_guy@> wrote:
> >
> > I posted some opinions about the University of Maryland sports program, in
which I trashed Ralph Friedgen, Gary Williams, and Debbie Yow.  Ultimately it's
Yow's fault for losing sight of the big ticket items for the sake of Title IX
sports, especially considering that they are not mutually exclusive, but Ralph
and Gary are not helping to right the simking ship either, that's for sure.
> >
> > If it's still around here somewhere, you should read what I wrote, becasue
we lost 36-09 to Virginia Tech today, making us 2-8 on the season and
eliminating us from bowl consideration, a borderline impossibility considering
how many bowl games there are.
> >
> > Oh well, so be it.  I never expected to have to add John Harbaugh to that
list, either.
> >
>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The Bengals swept both the Steelers and the Ravens.  How amazing is that?  But
it might help us with the wildcard, even though it won't because we cannot beat
the Steelers even once, let alone twice.

I keep hearing about this blown call but I don't know what it was.  I'll have to
research it.




--- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "joes06" <kingjoey@...> wrote:
>
> 3 of the Ravens next 4 games are on at night which means I'll miss them. to
get to the playoffs they're going to have to beat the steelers twice.Looks like
the bungles are for real,Lewis has them playing sky high.
> What a blown call by bellichek last night. How do you not punt in that
situation.This is the worst year I can remember for being so many lousy teams in
the league and almost no good games every week.My station carried the damn
redskin denver game yesterday when the bungls steelers was on.8 games left we
have to go 6-2 to make the playoffs and hope sandeigo collapses.
> --- In BaltimoRavens@yahoogroups.com, "hbc_7840" <fang_guy@> wrote:
> >
> > I posted some opinions about the University of Maryland sports program, in
which I trashed Ralph Friedgen, Gary Williams, and Debbie Yow.  Ultimately it's
Yow's fault for losing sight of the big ticket items for the sake of Title IX
sports, especially considering that they are not mutually exclusive, but Ralph
and Gary are not helping to right the simking ship either, that's for sure.
> >
> > If it's still around here somewhere, you should read what I wrote, becasue
we lost 36-09 to Virginia Tech today, making us 2-8 on the season and
eliminating us from bowl consideration, a borderline impossibility considering
how many bowl games there are.
> >
> > Oh well, so be it.  I never expected to have to add John Harbaugh to that
list, either.
> >
>