I second the motion.

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From: fang_guy <fang_guy@...>
To: <BaltimOrioles@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, Jul 4, 2009 08:02 PM
Subject: BaltimOrioles Re: Tillman up soon?

Hill and Berken are both losing, but for some reason, Berken looks better doing
it. Still, for some reason I get the feeling that Hill's problem is mental and
that if something snaps the right way in that noggin of his, he'll be a really
good pitcher.

However, I have coined a new phrase known as the "D-Cab Rule", which basically
says no more spending seven years on a guy just becasue of untapped potential.
Those guys are simply going to have to become superstars elsewhere If there is
no progress after a year or so once a guy hits the majors, the D-Cab Rule says
get rid of him.




-- In BaltimOrioles@yahoogroups.com, "joes06" <kingjoey@...> wrote:
>
> To me Hill ought to be on a shorter leash than Berken and one of them would
have to go to make room for Tillman.I don't think they'll make any moves until
after the all-star break.Who knows but it wouldn't hurt Berken to pitch his ass
off tonight.
>
> --- In BaltimOrioles@yahoogroups.com, "fang_guy" <fang_guy@> wrote:
> >
> > From everything I read about this kid, he's got so much potential, it's
scary. Throw in Sherrill and they must be blowing their brains out in Seattle.
Throw in Wieters - who is clearly still learning and has barely begun to show
his stuff - and it can make a man religious. It's also interesting to note that
once he arrives, four-fifths of Opening Day's starting rotation will be outahere
in one way or the other. I still wish Hill would come around, hoerver. I think
it's too early to give up on him.
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Tillman may be on the cusp
> >
> > Triple-A pitcher appears to be next to reach majors if another starter is
needed
> >
> > By Jeff Zrebiec | jeff.zrebiec@
> > 10:20 PM EDT, July 3, 2009
> >
> > ANAHEIM, Calif. - In an ideal world, Orioles president of baseball
operations Andy MacPhail would introduce the organization's top pitching
prospects to the major leagues at different points of the season. However, with
four of the five members of his Opening Day rotation no longer part of the
starting staff because of either injuries or ineffectiveness, he has been left
with little choice.
> >
> > Rookies Brad Bergesen, Jason Berken and David Hernandez are already part of
the rotation, and Triple-A Norfolk right-hander Chris Tillman, 21, appears to be
the next man up if another injury occurs or the struggles of Berken or Rich Hill
persist. Tillman threw 7 2/3 shutout innings Friday, striking out seven and
allowing just four hits and a walk. He improved to 6-5 with a 2.69 ERA.
> >
> > "I've always said, you want to make sure when they get here, they have a
reasonable chance to succeed, but sometimes events dictate what happens," said
MacPhail, not speaking specifically about Tillman. "Things don't always go as
planned. Things change. We have to go with events and make the best decisions
that we can in the context of the current times."
> >
> > MacPhail said he is not looking for the current rotation to change, but if
it does, he would prefer summoning one of the Orioles' prospects rather than
calling on a well-traveled veteran. The Orioles' Opening Day rotation included
Koji Uehara, Adam Eaton, Alfredo Simon and Mark Hendrickson, joining holdover
Jeremy Guthrie. But Guthrie is the only one who remains. Eaton was released,
Simon is out for the season after having Tommy John ligament-reconstruction
surgery and Uehara is out until at least September with a partially torn tendon
in his pitching elbow. Hendrickson is currently in the bullpen.
> >
> > "We had our share [of turnover] already, but we've been able to fill in with
guys like Bergesen and Berken and Hernandez as opposed to going down and getting
veteran guys who are kicking around," MacPhail said. "Frankly, we had our
[veterans] at the beginning just to give us some time to help us make the right
decision with the minor league guys. I'm hopeful we have enough young candidates
down below where we won't have to resort to guys that are clearly in the
twilight of their careers."
> >
>




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