Does anyone know why Bacchetta killed the Agio? I still have mine. I was

wondering if they had design problems or anything like that?



Perry

-------------- Original message from "Perry" <perryg114@...>: --------------

Does anyone know why Bacchetta killed the Agio? I still have mine. I was wondering if they had design problems or anything like that?

Perry

Well the disk brakes work great on my bike. The rear drive train is kinda noisy

though.



Perry



--- In Bacchetta_Bikes@yahoogroups.com, bikeolounger@... wrote:

>

> Best guess? Low sales.

>

> I've built a couple for customers, and a friend has one that he bought after I

was out of the business. They are, indeed, nice bikes. The only problem I've

found with them is that the brake calipers were not as nice as I'd like--a

fairly simple upgrade, should I ever find myself owning one, and merely another

compromise issue to keep the MSRP within reason.

>

> They just didn't sell well enough to keep them in production.

>

> Sadly, it happens. Find me a 2009 Ryan Vanguard, if you can. The Longbikes

Slipstream (direct descendent of the Vanguard) is not the same bike, although it

IS a nice ride by all accounts.

>

> Tom, aka bikeolounger

> --

>

> If electricity comes from electrons, does morality

> come from morons?

>

>

>

> -------------- Original message from "Perry" <perryg114@...>: --------------

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>

>

>

> Does anyone know why Bacchetta killed the Agio? I still have mine. I was

wondering if they had design problems or anything like that?

>

> Perry

>

-------------- Original message from "Perry" <perryg114@...>: --------------

Well the disk brakes work great on my bike. The rear drive train is kinda noisy though.

Perry

--- In Bacchetta_Bikes@yahoogroups.com, bikeolounger@... wrote:
>
> Best guess? Low sales.
>
> I've built a couple for customers, and a friend has one that he bought after I was out of the business. They are, indeed, nice bikes. The only problem I've found with them is that the brake calipers were not as nice as I'd like--a fairly simple upgrade, should I ever find myself owning one, and merely another compromise issue to keep the MSRP within reason.
>
> They just didn't sell well enough to keep them in production.
>
> Sadly, it happens. Find me a 2009 Ryan Vanguard, if you can. The Longbikes Slipstream (direct descendent of the Vanguard) is not the same bike, although it IS a nice ride by all accounts.
>
> Tom, aka bikeolounger
> --
>
> If electricity comes from electrons, does morality
> come from morons?
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message from "Perry" <perryg114@...>: --------------
>
>
>
>
> Does anyone know why Bacchetta killed the Agio? I still have mine. I was wondering if they had design problems or anything like that?
>
> Perry
>

"Perry" perryg114@... wrote:



> Does anyone know why Bacchetta killed the Agio? I still have mine.

> I was wondering if they had design problems or anything like that?



Probably for the same reasons RANS killed the similar configuration V2.



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Zach Kaplan Cycles

Alameda, Northern California, North America

510-522-BENT (2368)

zakaplan@...

On 6-May-09, at 9:33 PM, Zach Kaplan wrote:



> "Perry" perryg114@... wrote:

>

>> Does anyone know why Bacchetta killed the Agio? I still have mine.

>> I was wondering if they had design problems or anything like that?



Lack of sales, I suspect.  Nothing wrong with the bike AFAIK.



I've been riding a Rans Tailwind and Gliss as my primary rides for

several years. This is a similar riding position to the Agio. My only

issues with the Agio are that I think the frame is a bit stiff for my

tastes, and I think things are a bit tight around the front of the

bike.  Early versions had mounts for rim brakes, but you could not

run v-brakes because of crank interference.



> Probably for the same reasons RANS killed the similar configuration

> V2.



I think the V2 was more or less replaced by the V3, as part of Rans'

move to big front wheels.  Only two legacy bike models remain with

20" front wheels.



Presumably the Tailwind was also killed for lack of sales, but IMO

that bike got worse when it went to the big main tube.  Also IMO the

current Rans seat is less compatible with the design than the

previous generation seat.