I am looking for another model 41 and would prefer a face to face
transaction. Anyone in the Florida Panhandle have one they are willing
to part with?
Regards, Ray in FLA

Hi Guys,

Attached is the flier for the State Conventional Pistol Match. It is next month
on May 16th and 17th. I will be calling the match again this year, and there
will be the usual free food and drinks for everyone. The drinks will be the
usual gatorade, fruit juice and a few sodas, maybe some tea. The food will be
simple high quality lunch meat and cheese, fresh fruit, bread, crackers, and
cookies. The table will be set up all day to allow anyone to help themselves to
a sandwich or a snack as needed. Of course, there will always be plenty of cold
drinking water. Bring your own chair.

Doug and I spent time at the gun show Saturday, getting donations for the door
prize table. There will be some very nice ones, and the usual cheapie-but-goodie
prizes. If any of you have any nice little doo-dads that would make a fun door
prize, bring it along and we will add it to the table.

I will be taking lots of pictures and put out a newsletter like last year.
Please try to come, we will have lots of fun. And yes, I will make sure that the
ladies room is clean and well stocked!

Sheral Ronemus
512-415-4574






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I usually use Federal 711B for practice.(1080fps) I wanted to try Federal 719
Target Ammo(1200fps) for practice. Does anyone have any experience with this
particular cartridge?? Tnx

hello,you can purchase a bomar full length sight thats already to go with front
and rear sigths and if your lucky it will have the same screw holes and install
easy.i had one just the opposite, i took off the bomar sight and screwed on a
red dot rail mount. have fun shooting.mike.


--- On Tue, 1/27/09, wb <walter3082000@...> wrote:

From: wb <walter3082000@...>
Subject: [BULLSEYESHOOTERS] RE: switching from red-dot to iron sights
To: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 11:23 PM






Hi, I have a RRA target 45 with  no iron sights but a rail to mount a red-dot. I
really like the red-dot, but would like to try iron sights.  How can I make the
switch? Do I need a new slide? RRA sells an iron sight that atttaches to the
existing slide but seemds to project a full inch or so over the rear of the
frame. Advice? Thanks!

--- On Fri, 11/28/08, The Glitzes <nglitz@optonline. net> wrote:
From: The Glitzes <nglitz@optonline. net>
Subject: RE: [BULLSEYESHOOTERS] What sights?
To: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 8:48 PM

Red dots are probably most numerous. A few diehards shoot crosshair scopes

like the Leupold M8. Ultradot is probably the top recommended red dot

scope, but many of the other brands will work just fine.

Ultradot supports bullseye competition at the national level and they are

distributed by Larry Carter, a super shooter, gunsmith and a nice guy.

www.larrysguns. com

norm

> -----Original Message-----

> From: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@ yahoogroups. com

> [mailto:BULLSEYESHO OTERS@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Bob Veasey

> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 9:59 AM

> To: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@ yahoogroups. com

> Subject: [BULLSEYESHOOTERS] What sights?

>

> Well, after joining my old club after 25+ years to shoot bullseye again

> I found that I was more ancient than I thought. When i asked how many

> still shot with iron sights they all chuckled and said none. What! When

> I stopped shooting scopes were the new "fad" but they seem to be the

> norm now. So, my question is what do most prefer,crosshair scopes,red

> dot . what power, brand ,etc. I'm going to have to learn this stuff all

> over again. Oh, I'm shooting National Gallery 50' range. Looking

> forward to some input.....bob

>

>















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Post your question on the Bullseye-L forum.
Roddy

-- "a1911shooter" <arthayze@...> wrote:
Anyone know of a buffer for a Marvel Unit 1?

I see some peening of the aluminum slide from hitting the frame.

I use the 9 lb spring and Standard Velocity ammo only.


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Anyone know of a buffer for a Marvel Unit 1?

I see some peening of the aluminum slide from hitting the frame.

I use the 9 lb spring and Standard Velocity ammo only.

Hi, I have a RRA target 45 with  no iron sights but a rail to mount a red-dot. I
really like the red-dot, but would like to try iron sights.  How can I make the
switch? Do I need a new slide? RRA sells an iron sight that atttaches to the
existing slide but seemds to project a full inch or so over the rear of the
frame. Advice? Thanks!

--- On Fri, 11/28/08, The Glitzes <nglitz@...> wrote:
From: The Glitzes <nglitz@...>
Subject: RE: [BULLSEYESHOOTERS] What sights?
To: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 8:48 PM


















             Red dots are probably most numerous.  A few diehards shoot crosshair
scopes

like the Leupold M8.  Ultradot is probably the top recommended red dot

scope, but many of the other brands will work just fine.



Ultradot supports bullseye competition at the national level and they are

distributed by Larry Carter, a super shooter, gunsmith and a nice guy.

www.larrysguns. com



norm



> -----Original Message-----

> From: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@ yahoogroups. com

> [mailto:BULLSEYESHOOTERS@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Bob Veasey

> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 9:59 AM

> To: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@ yahoogroups. com

> Subject: [BULLSEYESHOOTERS] What sights?

>

> Well, after joining my old club after 25+ years to shoot bullseye again

> I found that I was more ancient than I thought. When i asked how many

> still shot with iron sights they all chuckled and said none. What! When

> I stopped shooting scopes were the new "fad" but they seem to be the

> norm now. So, my question is what do most prefer,crosshair scopes,red

> dot . what power, brand ,etc. I'm going to have to learn this stuff all

> over again. Oh, I'm shooting National Gallery 50' range. Looking

> forward to some input.....bob

>

>


































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Sorry about that all you need to do is enter HR 45 and will find the bill being
proposed

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probably this one

_http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45_
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dennis kriek



1a. Re: H.R. 45 Bill
Posted by: "toyotaroddy@..."  toyotaroddy@... cleantarget10x
Date: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:50  pm ((PST))



-- "b92262000" <camel002@...>  wrote:
This Bill is looking to take your firearm right away for good


Hi whom ever you are;  Thanks for the heads up, but in the  future it would
be great if you could provide a link to what you're referring  to.
Roddy






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--- In BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com, "b92262000" <camel002@...> wrote:
>
> This Bill is looking to take your firearm right away for good
>

Well, it's been clear for a long time that we're going to get some
kind of gun control sooner or later.  Since the gun owning community
through the NRA decided not to have a voice in shaping it I guess all
we can do is bend over and take it.

-- "b92262000" <camel002@...> wrote:
This Bill is looking to take your firearm right away for good


Hi whom ever you are;  Thanks for the heads up, but in the future it would be
great if you could provide a link to what you're referring to.
Roddy


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This Bill is looking to take your firearm right away for good

Patrick-Hope all your medical problems are small ones and wish you the best of
health.Ernie Rodriguez
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Patrick Cimo
   To: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 9:01 PM
   Subject: [BULLSEYESHOOTERS] Members Posts to Group


   Dear BULLSEYESHOOTERS Group Member,

   I have had some medical problems that may have resulted in your post
   being delayed / expiring.
   If this has happened to your post ... PLEASE re-submit them and I will
   post them ASAP.
   As for future posts; I must inform you that there MAY be some delays
   of postings immediately following my I.V. infusions.

   Please accept my apologies,
   Patrick Cimo





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Red dots are probably most numerous.  A few diehards shoot crosshair scopes
like the Leupold M8.  Ultradot is probably the top recommended red dot
scope, but many of the other brands will work just fine.

Ultradot supports bullseye competition at the national level and they are
distributed by Larry Carter, a super shooter, gunsmith and a nice guy.
www.larrysguns.com

norm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Veasey
> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 9:59 AM
> To: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [BULLSEYESHOOTERS] What sights?
>
> Well, after joining my old club after 25+ years to shoot bullseye again
> I found that I was more ancient than I thought. When i asked how many
> still shot with iron sights they all chuckled and said none. What! When
> I stopped shooting scopes were the new "fad" but they seem to be the
> norm now. So, my question is what do most prefer,crosshair scopes,red
> dot . what power, brand ,etc. I'm going to have to learn this stuff all
> over again. Oh, I'm shooting National Gallery 50' range. Looking
> forward to some input.....bob
>
>

Well, after joining my old club after 25+ years to shoot bullseye again
I found that I was more ancient than I thought. When i asked how many
still shot with iron sights they all chuckled and said none. What! When
I stopped shooting scopes were the new "fad" but they seem to be the
norm now. So, my question is what do most prefer,crosshair scopes,red
dot . what power, brand ,etc. I'm going to have to learn this stuff all
over again. Oh, I'm shooting National Gallery 50' range. Looking
forward to some input.....bob

Dear BULLSEYESHOOTERS Group Member,

I have had some medical problems that may have resulted in your post
being delayed / expiring.
If this has happened to your post ... PLEASE re-submit them and I will
post them ASAP.
As for future posts; I must inform you that there MAY be some delays
of postings immediately following my I.V. infusions.

Please accept my apologies,
Patrick Cimo

Bob,
     From a bullseye shooter who is also a distinguished rifleman. I use
a Kowa 611 25X LER for rifle and it is very good. You may want something
less expensive for the ranges you state. Look at 60mm to 70mm scopes. An
angled eyepiece is most desirable for target shooting. If you plan to
bird watch too a straight scope is easier to lay on the subject when you
don't have a line of targets to scan along. With an angled eyepiece, a
rotating band on the scope may be necessary depending on what scope
stand or mount you choose.
     I have a Champion's Choice that is good for pistol;
http://www.champchoice.com/detail.php?item=CC5045Z
     But, I hear a lot of good things about Konus
http://www.opticsforyou.com/product-6968-15-15-1.html
     I have a page about spotting scopes. It is written with high power
rifle in mind, but you may find something there that helps you;
http://www.ray-vin.com/tech/shc/headcompare.htm
Regards, Ray

Bob Veasey wrote:

>I'm needing some input on spotting scopes. I think I want a variable
>scope but I'm not sure of the strength. I want to be able to see
>clearly from about 50' out to about 100 yrds. if that is possible. If
>not, that 50' out to whatever and how far will that be?  Please educate
>me on these things. Thanks.....bob v
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

20 or 25 power magnification is usually enough to see the holes in your
target out to the 50 yards max distance in bullseye competition.  The
clarity of the view (aka resolution) will have a lot to do with the price of
the scope.  Try looking through some different scopes on the line.  I doubt
anyone would object if asked.

I have a variable, but many used fixed 20 or 25 and do just fine.

Norm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Veasey
>
> I'm needing some input on spotting scopes. I think I want a variable
> scope but I'm not sure of the strength. I want to be able to see
> clearly from about 50' out to about 100 yrds. if that is possible. If
> not, that 50' out to whatever and how far will that be?  Please educate
> me on these things. Thanks.....bob v

My slow fire scores are inconsistant which tells me I have a lot to
improve in the accuracy department.  I would like to ensure I don't
mess-up the rapid fire by not getting 5 holes in the target.  I see
there's a balance between accuracy and speed - I have a ways to go
which is the challenge.  The more I shoot bullseye the more I
appreciate how difficult it is.

Thanks all for the input.


--- In BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Fleming" <bob-
fleming@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Glad you joined the league! They are great!
>
> As others mentioned, accuracy is the goal, not speed. With
practice, speed
> will come on it's own. Practice for accuracy.
>
> The Cadence concept is FALSE! We are not scored on timing or even
style,
> just accurate shots in the given time in accordance with all the
rules.
> There is nothing in the rules about cadence. It is important not to
dwell
> too much on the first shot but there is no need to pull the trigger
as soon
> as the target turns regardless of the sight picture.
>
>   Accuracy First! Shoot as many accurate shots as you can at one
time during
> practice then put the gun down. There is no good in practicing to
watch the
> gun wiggle around and pull the trigger anyway; bad habits should
not be
> practiced. In a match sometimes you have to do what you have to do
but don't
> tolerate poor shooting situations during practice.
>
>   Dry firing can really help rapid-fire scores! The ability to pull
the
> trigger without disturbing the sights is very important. Use dry
firing time
> to learn how to grip the pistol, position the trigger finger and
move that
> finger without moving the sights. I find that it is easier to tell
exactly
> what is going on with iron sights than red dot scopes during dry
firing and
> you need to learn to shoot iron anyway. There are several different
kinds of
> movement that look a lot alike in the scope. You might need a
different
> length trigger to make things absolutely perfect but you do not
have to run
> out and buy a Hammerli 208s to get a great trigger pull. I shot my
first 890
> scores with a Browning Buckmark and scores actually went down at
first when
> I got the 208s. It is possible to learn to shoot well with a pistol
that
> does not fit well so don't waste much time or money with equipment,
spend it
> practicing. Lots of rapid-fire practice using the "Accuracy First"
method
> also improves your slow fire scores.
>
> Perfect practice makes perfect, anything else is just going through
the
> motions to please someone else.
>
> Bob Fleming, 2650 Club
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
>
> I just joined the local bullseye league - we shoot the 900 point
> matches.
>
> I've read a lot over the years regarding bullseye and could use a
few
> pointers.
>
> Some say you should shoot timed fire using the same cadence as rapid
> fire. I had the target turn before I got my last round off in a
rapid
> fire match.
>
> I get my 5 timed fire shots off with plenty of time but get worrying
> about running out of time in rapid fire and my scores show it.
>
> Any ideas would help.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I'm needing some input on spotting scopes. I think I want a variable
scope but I'm not sure of the strength. I want to be able to see
clearly from about 50' out to about 100 yrds. if that is possible. If
not, that 50' out to whatever and how far will that be?  Please educate
me on these things. Thanks.....bob v

Rapid fire is a faster version of Timed Fire.  Timed Fire is a faster
version of slowfire except you cannot put the gun down between shots.

Basically, shoot each shot in rapid fire, timed fire and slow fire the
same way... just a little faster each time.

Since you are starting I would say you need to focus on the slowfire
first.  Don't worry about doing poorly in the rapid fire and timed fire.
If you fail to shoot well aimed shots in slow fire, you will probably
fail to do the same in timed and rapid.

Training material at http://nepistol.com and follow the download link.


Thanks

Bill Dutton
617-594-2194 (Cell)
603-791-3316 (Work)




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	 From: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of a1911nut
	 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:48 PM
	 To: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com
	 Subject: [BULLSEYESHOOTERS] timed and rapid fire



	 I just joined the local bullseye league - we shoot the 900 point

	 matches.

	 I've read a lot over the years regarding bullseye and could use
a few
	 pointers.

	 Some say you should shoot timed fire using the same cadence as
rapid
	 fire. I had the target turn before I got my last round off in a
rapid
	 fire match.

	 I get my 5 timed fire shots off with plenty of time but get
worrying
	 about running out of time in rapid fire and my scores show it.

	 Any ideas would help.







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Glad you joined the league! They are great!

As others mentioned, accuracy is the goal, not speed. With practice, speed
will come on it’s own. Practice for accuracy.

The Cadence concept is FALSE! We are not scored on timing or even style,
just accurate shots in the given time in accordance with all the rules.
There is nothing in the rules about cadence. It is important not to dwell
too much on the first shot but there is no need to pull the trigger as soon
as the target turns regardless of the sight picture.

   Accuracy First! Shoot as many accurate shots as you can at one time during
practice then put the gun down. There is no good in practicing to watch the
gun wiggle around and pull the trigger anyway; bad habits should not be
practiced. In a match sometimes you have to do what you have to do but don’t
tolerate poor shooting situations during practice.

   Dry firing can really help rapid-fire scores! The ability to pull the
trigger without disturbing the sights is very important. Use dry firing time
to learn how to grip the pistol, position the trigger finger and move that
finger without moving the sights. I find that it is easier to tell exactly
what is going on with iron sights than red dot scopes during dry firing and
you need to learn to shoot iron anyway. There are several different kinds of
movement that look a lot alike in the scope. You might need a different
length trigger to make things absolutely perfect but you do not have to run
out and buy a Hammerli 208s to get a great trigger pull. I shot my first 890
scores with a Browning Buckmark and scores actually went down at first when
I got the 208s. It is possible to learn to shoot well with a pistol that
does not fit well so don’t waste much time or money with equipment, spend it
practicing. Lots of rapid-fire practice using the “Accuracy First” method
also improves your slow fire scores.

Perfect practice makes perfect, anything else is just going through the
motions to please someone else.

Bob Fleming, 2650 Club

-----Original Message-----



I just joined the local bullseye league - we shoot the 900 point
matches.

I've read a lot over the years regarding bullseye and could use a few
pointers.

Some say you should shoot timed fire using the same cadence as rapid
fire. I had the target turn before I got my last round off in a rapid
fire match.

I get my 5 timed fire shots off with plenty of time but get worrying
about running out of time in rapid fire and my scores show it.

Any ideas would help.




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There is no cadence. It may sound like it when all is going well, but each
shot is an individual event.

Norm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of a1911nut

> I just joined the local bullseye league - we shoot the 900 point
> matches.
>
> I've read a lot over the years regarding bullseye and could use a few
> pointers.
>
> Some say you should shoot timed fire using the same cadence as rapid
> fire.  I had the target turn before I got my last round off in a rapid
> fire match.
>
> I get my 5 timed fire shots off with plenty of time but get worrying
> about running out of time in rapid fire and my scores show it.
>
> Any ideas would help.
>

Nut,
Shoot for accuracy, speed will come. A Distinguished army shooter told
me he shot slow fire at the rapid fire pace.
Regards, Ray

a1911nut wrote:

>I just joined the local bullseye league - we shoot the 900 point
>matches.
>
>I've read a lot over the years regarding bullseye and could use a few
>pointers.
>
>Some say you should shoot timed fire using the same cadence as rapid
>fire.  I had the target turn before I got my last round off in a rapid
>fire match.
>
>I get my 5 timed fire shots off with plenty of time but get worrying
>about running out of time in rapid fire and my scores show it.
>
>Any ideas would help.
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I just joined the local bullseye league - we shoot the 900 point
matches.

I've read a lot over the years regarding bullseye and could use a few
pointers.

Some say you should shoot timed fire using the same cadence as rapid
fire.  I had the target turn before I got my last round off in a rapid
fire match.

I get my 5 timed fire shots off with plenty of time but get worrying
about running out of time in rapid fire and my scores show it.

Any ideas would help.

Joe Landrith from Springdale, AR,
Please call Ray and Rugy at 1-850-482-7562.
We have been trying to email you, but the emails have been bouncing.

Ray and Ruby Brandes wrote:

>I have a new batch of S&W Model 41 barrels ready for delivery.
>This post is the first public offering of this batch.
>The barrels marked sold have gone to shooters on the waiting list.
>http://www.bullybarrel.ray-vin.com/index.htm
>Thanks for looking,
>Regards, Ray
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I have a new batch of S&W Model 41 barrels ready for delivery.
This post is the first public offering of this batch.
The barrels marked sold have gone to shooters on the waiting list.
http://www.bullybarrel.ray-vin.com/index.htm
Thanks for looking,
Regards, Ray

Thanks for the plug Norm!
http://www.ray-vin.com/gunsight/smoker.htm
http://www.ray-vin.com/gunsight/carbide.htm
Regards, Ray

The Glitzes wrote:

>Hard to beat Ray's "Super Smoker" for cool factor.
>Makes very black sights, too.
>
>Norm
>
>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com
>>>
>>>
>>>I've seen a few people burn a plastic spoon.  Other people claim to use
>>>a butane lighter or a match.
>>>
>>>CDD
>>>
>>>--- In BULLSEYESHOOTERS@yahoogroups.com, "deerspy08" <deerspy08@...>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi, all
>>>>what is the best thing to use if you can't find calcium carbide to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>smoke your sights?
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

I have heard of burning masking tape. Never tried it.

Bob Fleming


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