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Re: handgun laws in vehicle

--- In ArkansasShooters@yahoogroups.com, "www.bigpaul"
<www.bigpaul@...> wrote:
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> coming from a dummy.what are the laws about carrying a handgun in your
> vehicle ?
>
If you do not have a CCW permit from the state, you would be under the
'journey' law. That is pretty vague, but if ever caught with the
weapon during a traffic stop---they would have to prove you were
intending to use it as a weapon. That is to do harm in actions. Like
stated before---it depends on whom you ask. A 'journey' as put to me
by a legal adviser is: any time you travel outside your normal circle
of friends or family, or your regular daily activities (scheduled).
I've also been told it was any trip over 20 miles from your abode.
Generally speaking----there is also an unwritten five step rule that
some local law enforcement agencies use in determining the condition
of the firearm as to the owner's disposition for carrying. The
firearm must not be loaded. This means empty chamber, no magazine.
The magazine or speedloader will be kept separate from the firearm.
Examples of the three step rule for pistols is as follows: Retrieve
pistol from under the drivers seat or glove compartment (count one),
retrieve magazine or speedloader from it's location (count two), open
cylinder [revolvers], or rack the slide [semi autos](count three),
insert live rounds from speedloader, or insert magazine (count four),
close cylinder or release the slide (count five). If you follow these
'unwritten' rules in your 'other than legal but not illegal' choice to
carry, then you will likely be okay in the eyes of the law. Take my
word only for the experience from my traffic stop in 1995 with a 357
revolver under the front seat, and two speed loaders in the glove box.
The involved police department did confiscate my gun, and I picked it
up at the police station a week later. I'm sure they did some
research on it via serial number or national check. At the time, one
of the officers suggested I seek an Arkansas concealed weapons permit.
In 2000 I did just that. If you would qualify for a CCW permit--I'd
suggest the same thing for you. Otherwise---there may be that day
when the LEA isn't lookig at things from your point of view. Be safe.




Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:26 am

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coming from a dummy.what are the laws about carrying a handgun in your vehicle ?...
www.bigpaul
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Nov 19, 2007
12:36 pm

BigPaul, In Arkansas, they are dangerously vague - Its "allowed" as an affirmative defense (mean you have to prove yourself innocent in court essentially) for...
Kent Goff
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Nov 19, 2007
3:29 pm

If you have a valid concealed weapons license you are fine. If you are "traveling" you are also fine. The definition of traveling varies by prosecutor, but is...
Andy Lowry
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Nov 19, 2007
8:19 pm

... If you do not have a CCW permit from the state, you would be under the 'journey' law. That is pretty vague, but if ever caught with the weapon during a...
holyscamolli
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Dec 16, 2007
4:25 am

One should realize that unless a police officer has probable cause to believe that you have committed a crime (traffic infractions do not apply), that the 4th...
Andy Lowry
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Dec 20, 2007
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The only problem with this idea is: the Florida nonresident permit is ONLY valid when you are IN Florida and have a legal residence in another state. If you...
Bill Beatty
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Dec 22, 2007
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Please excuse the ignorance, I been on the road a while and must have missed something. Is Arkansas not still an open carry state? Back in `01 or `02 I was...
Terry
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Dec 22, 2007
9:36 pm

Arkansas never officially had open carry, unless it was many, many years ago....
montemanm1
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Dec 22, 2007
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... Exactly...
holyscamolli
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Dec 23, 2007
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If a police officer wants to pull you over, he will. Here in the NE part of Arkansas, he'll make up an excuse. Standard quesitons after the DL and insurance...
John
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Dec 22, 2007
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The way to reply to the "you got something to hide?" question is Why do you want to look, do you think I'm breaking the law? Don't let them search your car....
Bill Beatty
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Dec 23, 2007
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I believe it was about two years ago. A woman was pulled ove by the Mulberry Police in Crawford County. They called a K9 when she refused to allow them to...
John
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Dec 23, 2007
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You won't. the city just pays the lawsuit amount, the Municipal League picks up the tab with the insurance. There is very seldom any mention of this in the...
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Dec 27, 2007
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That is ABSOLUTELY false information. Contact Arkansas' attorney general's office. Andy Posted by: "Bill Beatty" bbeatty@... Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:28 pm...
Andy Lowry
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(a) Any person in possession of a valid license issued by another state to carry a concealed handgun shall be entitled to the privileges and subject to the...
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