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Re: [Aikido_Australia] Re: Doshu Visit

Thanks Lauren

Very wise words. Yes youčre right I have no desire to train with such narrow
minded people, but I was looking forward to experiencing the Doshučs
teaching. The silly thing is that if I was in Japan I could just show up to
Hombu pay my money and train in his class. As for being hurt.. Far from it,
I was not surprised by the rejection, in fact I expected it. Nothing like
drawing out the attack and then using the persons own ego against them. :)




On 26/1/06 10:58 PM, "Lauren" <lachesis@...> wrote:

> Hi Assunta,
>
> I have another point of view for you to consider. That perhaps this
> is the universe working in your favour. A rejection hurts,
> especially when it is so unjust, but maybe it is better that you do
> not train with such narrow-minded people. Or maybe the seminar is
> destined to be blown to smithereens by terrorists and you're being
> saved. Maybe you need to be somewhere else instead. Or maybe this
> discussion is the ultimate reason.
>
> The universe works in mysterious ways.
>
> I'd also be wary of people who are so eager to air their dirty
> laundry in public that the words Melbourne and Japan somehow look
> like each other...
>
> Take care,
> Lauren
>
>
> --- In Aikido_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Assunta Morrone
> <assuntam@o...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Richard thanks for your very interesting responses. Different
> views and
>> > opinions is what makes healthy debate and democratic societies.
>> >
>> > It would not have mattered what rank I had. We were refused entry
> because
>> > we did not have a grading that was recognised by hombu.
>> >
>> > Further how do test competency or qualifications. I have trained
> with many
>> > Dan grades who are hard, rough, disrespectful, arrogant, and who
> couldnčt
>> > find their centre, or yours, if you gave them a map with the spot
> marked X
>> > on it
>> >
>> > On the question of style- what is style anyway. Sure some schools
> believe
>> > that their way to do Ikkyo is the right way, but there are many
> ways to do
>> > ikkyo and they are all right as long as you work with the
> principles of
>> > Aikido.
>> >
>> > To suggest that an Australian Dan grading is better than one from
> Middle
>> > Slobovia is a question of ego. Anyway it was Aiki-Kai that
> expressed their
>> > ego by excluding people.
>> >
>> > In the memory of the great Graeme "Shirley" Strachan łego is not
> a dirty
>> > wordČ
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 26/1/06 1:01 PM, "Richard Pernatin" <aikione2001@y...> wrote:
>> >
>>> > > Hi Assunta, Sorry to hear about your plight - so I thought I
> would add my 3
>>> > > cents worth.
>>> > >
>>> > > 1. Why don't you attend as a white belt. Every time I go to
> a different
>>> > > school or style of Aikido or martial arts where I feel that my
> rank would not
>>> > > be accepted or in fact get in the way of the new teachings, I
> wear a white
>>> > > belt. I still get the benefit of the training without the
> hassel. ( Wearing
>>> > > a white belt no one expects you to know anything)
>>> > >
>>> > > 2. Do you know if this semminar is closed to just that style
> or for
>>> > > specific grades or maybe for instructors only etc?
>>> > >
>>> > > 3. This is the difficult point to explaine - but here goes -
> about
>>> > > recognition of ranks - If you needed brain surgery and I
> approached you and
>>> > > told you I was a qualified brain surgen - wouldn't you ask for
> some proof?
>>> > > And if I showed you my deploma that I graduated from brain
> surgery school in
>>> > > Middle Slobovia, but don't you worry that I don't have Australian
>>> > > qualifications would you let me operate? What I am saying is
> that everyone
>>> > > has the right to accept or deny your rank. So if I really
> wanted to go, I
>>> > > would supress my ego, put on my white belt and enjoy the
> teachings.
>>> > >
>>> > > Cheers Richard
>>> > >
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Hi Assunta, Sorry to hear about your plight - so I thought I would add my 3 cents worth. 1. Why don't you attend as a white belt. Every time I go to a...
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Hi Richard thanks for your very interesting responses. Different views and opinions is what makes healthy debate and democratic societies. It would not have...
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Hi Assunta, I have another point of view for you to consider. That perhaps this is the universe working in your favour. A rejection hurts, especially when it...
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Apologies, Having reconsidered my response while meditating in a warm shower (as one does), I have decided to retract my last statement and replace it with: Be...
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Thanks Lauren Very wise words. Yes youčre right I have no desire to train with such narrow minded people, but I was looking forward to experiencing the...
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Thats right Richard. We must always travel with a white belt. Somehow we are all beginners. Cheers, Ricardo ... add my 3 cents worth. ... different school or...
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Good onya brother, you sound like you are training for all the right reasons. So enjoy and grow and walk the path with the rest of us. One of the reasons...
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