Hi There, New to Austin, last played Ping Pong in High School Ten
Years ago - Would like to Pick back up again. Looking to Play at least
once a week with someone who's a beginner and looking to Improve their
game. If I dont get any responses, I guess I'll just go down to the
ATTC and get taken to the cleaners =)

bjcn,

Some of these new tension rubbers make looping effortless, fast and
spinny. so while you may have to change your stroke slightly, I don't
think by much. mind you this is just the looping stroke. the new
tension rubbers do affect the short game.

One of the guys at the club had this to say when he tried the Numbus.

wow, I don't have to swing as hard yet the ball jumps off the paddle.
May not be an exact quote but close enough. he was trying my paddle
since we have the same one but mine has a straight handle.

if you can, see if a member at your club has one of these new rubbers
and try it for yourself. they are pricey though. I treat mine like a
rare collectable comic to prolong the life of the rubber.

Victor

--- In ATTC@yahoogroups.com, bjcn bjcn <bjcn_bjcn@...> wrote:
>
> thnaks for your suggestion. the problem for me to change rubber is
that  it means I have to change  many things technically. I am not a
professional player. I play it just for fun and keeping fit. what's
more I like the gluing coz it makes looping more stronger . 

I was searching for the reason of the 40 mm ball : ), and the reason behind the
struggle on one hand to slow the game down and on the other to speed it up.also
opinions on equipment and how it effects the sport from tables, height of net,
rackets, scoring, and rubber. We on one hand ban some rubbers but not others
with the same characteristics. We ban all types of glue or anything that changes
the supposed playing charateristics of rubber and then manufactors bring out
rubber that "replaces" glueing. They say for our health but they brought out
speed glues that were water based and they were banned too. I am looking for the
reason behind the supposed reason.
   And I like how you get that my opinion is because I am older, well maybe I am
older but that has nothing to do with my opinion. I am still not blind, at least
not totaly.

                                              Kenneth




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> To: ATTC@yahoogroups.com
> From: threestar40@...
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:23:07 -0600
> Subject: RE: [ATTA] Re: chatting
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> Since you're asking for opinions...here's mine.
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> The older you get, the more you migrate back to the beauty of the hardbat
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> game and the hardbat itself. See Ken's comment below about the Sriver 2.0.
>
> It's a step in that direction. In the meantime if your interested in what
>
> it takes to win in table tennis today...use every weapon you have every
>
> chance you have to use it on every stroke whether it be a well placed ball,
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> a killer loop, an unreturnable smash or kill shot, a nasty push, a sizzling
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> chop, or a well disguised serve. My opinion is to win the point as quickly
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> as possible no matter what it takes.
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> However if you interested in what it takes to enjoy table tennis
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> today...well that has to come from the depths of your heart and soul.
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> Smiling and keeping in mind that you are blessed to be alive and able to hit
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> the ball with another human being is a huge step in the right direction.
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> Behave yourself and try not to hurt anyone even though the game you're
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> pursuing is very much a bloody war with your fellow man...One on One.
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> But it's just a game ;)
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> Rick =)
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: ATTC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ATTC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
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> Kenneth Beauchamp
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:28 PM
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> To: attc@yahoogroups.com
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> Subject: RE: [ATTA] Re: chatting
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> The purpose of the 40 mm ball was to slow down the speed of the ball and
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> also the spin. The reason was to make it more spectator friendly and for
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> longer rallies.Since the 40 mm ball has been adopted all I have seen is more
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> gluing(putting more glue to compensate for the size of the ball), faster
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> rackets, and rubber. The day of the long rallies never happened. The 40 mm
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> ball because of its size and weight is easier to hit or drive than the 40mm.
>
> It tends to "stand up" when it bounces making it easy to hit and the tables
>
> haven't helped either. It is very hard to put enough backspin on the ball to
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> make the opponent have to lift the ball instead of loop driving it. The
>
> tables nowdays have very little friction so the ball tends to go outward ,
>
> off the table. Butterfly tables are about the only one that has friction
>
> enough you can keep the ball on the table. The reglue ban is in effect but
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> it is going to be hard to enforce, plus the rubber manufactors keep just
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> bring out faster rubbers.
>
> As far as a racket choice and rubber choice I think you should play with
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> a allaround speed racket and Sriver 2.0 or similar rubber unglued to fully
>
> enjopy the sport of table tennis. With this racket and rubber choice you can
>
> do everything from loop to chop and experience a wide array of shots. As you
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> are a amateur player this should give you a lot of satisfaction in learning
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> and controlling a wide variety of strokes instead of just trying to "kill"
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> every ball.
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> This was written to get other opinions on this subject.
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> Kenneth Beauchamp
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>> To: ATTC@yahoogroups.com
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>> From: bjcn_bjcn@...
>
>> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:12:42 -0800
>
>> Subject: Re: [ATTA] Re: chatting
>
>>
>
>> Jeff, thanks a lot for your kimd information. We have all the rubbers you
>
> mentioned thouhg some of them are very expensive here. At the moment I still
>
> use gluing rubber coz I am used to it. Most of Chinese amateurs like gluing
>
> for lstrong and fast looping. the gluing rubbers are still availble in the
>
> market. I just worry about the future when the rubbers are not availble.
>
> Change rubbers means a lot changes in many things.
>
>>________________________________
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>> From: ffejman_nguyen
>
>> To: ATTC@yahoogroups.com
>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:08:12 PM
>
>> Subject: [ATTA] Re: chatting
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>> --- In ATTC@yahoogroups. com, "bjcn" wrote:
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>>>
>
>>> Hello, everybody there! I am an amatuer table tennis player from
>
>>> Beijing, China. I go to my club 3-4 times a week. I just changed my
>
>>> holding from pen-hold to shakehand-hold last Oct. My blade is
>
>>> butterfly Photino+ Double Happiness Hurrican 39 + Butterfly Sriver-FX.
>
>>> I like gluing very much. At the moment I am considering the use of the
>
>>> rubbers made outside of China so that I will meet the reality of
>
>>> nongluing. therefore I would like to chat with any friends from you
>
>>> about it. Any chat on table tennis would be highly welcomed.
>
>>>
>
>>
>
>> Nice to have you!
>
>> Several rubbers you should consider using that have a speed glue
>
>> effect are: the Butterfly Tenergy 05, Tenergy 25, Ternergy 64;
>
>> Xiom
>
>> Omega I, Omega II, and Omega III; Yasaka Pryde; Andro Roxon 500 and
>
>> Roxon 450; Stiga Boost TC and Boost TP; Tibhar Nimbus, Nimbus Soft,
>
>> Nimbus Sound, Nimbus VIP, Sinus, and Sinus Alpha; Donic Coppa Jo
>
>> Platin, and Coppa Jo Platin Soft. These rubbers are not as fast or as
>
>> spinny as speed glued rubbers but should offer you some degree of the
>
>> "speed glue" feeling.
>
>>
>
>> If you want pure speed you should go for Xiom Omega III or Nimbus VIP.
>
>> If you want more spin but with speed also go for the Tenergys.
>
>>
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>> -Jeff
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Since you're asking for opinions...here's mine.

The older you get, the more you migrate back to the beauty of the hardbat
game and the hardbat itself.  See Ken's comment below about the Sriver 2.0.
It's a step in that direction.  In the meantime if your interested in what
it takes to win in table tennis today...use every weapon you have every
chance you have to use it on every stroke whether it be a well placed ball,
a killer loop, an unreturnable smash or kill shot, a nasty push, a sizzling
chop, or a well disguised serve.  My opinion is to win the point as quickly
as possible no matter what it takes.

However if you interested in what it takes to enjoy table tennis
today...well that has to come from the depths of your heart and soul.

Smiling and keeping in mind that you are blessed to be alive and able to hit
the ball with another human being is a huge step in the right direction.

Behave yourself and try not to hurt anyone even though the game you're
pursuing is very much a bloody war with your fellow man...One on One.

But it's just a game  ;)

Rick  =)



-----Original Message-----
From: ATTC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ATTC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Kenneth Beauchamp
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:28 PM
To: attc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ATTA] Re: chatting

The purpose of the 40 mm ball was to slow down the speed of the ball and
also the spin. The reason was to make it more spectator friendly and for
longer rallies.Since the 40 mm ball has been adopted all I have seen is more
gluing(putting more glue to compensate for the size of the ball), faster
rackets, and rubber. The day of the long rallies never happened. The 40 mm
ball because of its size and weight is easier to hit or drive than the 40mm.
It tends to "stand up" when it bounces making it easy to hit and the tables
haven't helped either. It is very hard to put enough backspin on the ball to
make the opponent have to lift the ball instead of loop driving it. The
tables nowdays have very little friction so the ball tends to go outward ,
off the table. Butterfly tables are about the only one that has friction
enough you can keep the ball on the table. The reglue ban is in effect but
it is going to be hard to enforce, plus the rubber manufactors keep just
bring out faster rubbers.
   As far as a racket choice and rubber choice I think you should  play with
a allaround speed racket and Sriver 2.0 or similar rubber unglued to fully
enjopy the sport of table tennis. With this racket and rubber choice you can
do everything from loop to chop and experience a wide array of shots. As you
are a amateur player this should give you a lot of satisfaction in learning
and controlling a wide variety of strokes instead of just trying to "kill"
every ball.


           This was written to get other opinions on this subject.

                     Kenneth Beauchamp



________________________________
> To: ATTC@yahoogroups.com
> From: bjcn_bjcn@...
> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:12:42 -0800
> Subject: Re: [ATTA] Re: chatting
>
> Jeff, thanks a lot for your kimd information. We have all the rubbers you
mentioned thouhg some of them are very expensive here. At the moment I still
use gluing rubber coz I am used to it. Most of Chinese amateurs like gluing
for lstrong and fast looping. the gluing rubbers are still availble in the
market. I just worry about the future when the rubbers are not availble.
Change rubbers means a lot changes in many things.
>________________________________
>
> From: ffejman_nguyen
> To: ATTC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:08:12 PM
> Subject: [ATTA] Re: chatting
>
> --- In ATTC@yahoogroups. com, "bjcn" wrote:
>>
>> Hello, everybody there! I am an amatuer table tennis player from
>> Beijing, China. I go to my club 3-4 times a week. I just changed my
>> holding from pen-hold to shakehand-hold last Oct. My blade is
>> butterfly Photino+ Double Happiness Hurrican 39 + Butterfly Sriver-FX.
>> I like gluing very much. At the moment I am considering the use of the
>> rubbers made outside of China so that I will meet the reality of
>> nongluing. therefore I would like to chat with any friends from you
>> about it. Any chat on table tennis would be highly welcomed.
>>
>
> Nice to have you!
> Several rubbers you should consider using that have a speed glue
> effect are: the Butterfly Tenergy 05, Tenergy 25, Ternergy 64;
> Xiom
> Omega I, Omega II, and Omega III; Yasaka Pryde; Andro Roxon 500 and
> Roxon 450; Stiga Boost TC and Boost TP; Tibhar Nimbus, Nimbus Soft,
> Nimbus Sound, Nimbus VIP, Sinus, and Sinus Alpha; Donic Coppa Jo
> Platin, and Coppa Jo Platin Soft. These rubbers are not as fast or as
> spinny as speed glued rubbers but should offer you some degree of the
> "speed glue" feeling.
>
> If you want pure speed you should go for Xiom Omega III or Nimbus VIP.
> If you want more spin but with speed also go for the Tenergys.
>
> -Jeff


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Visit http://www.austintabletennis.com for club information.Yahoo! Groups
Links

The purpose of the 40 mm ball was to slow down the speed of the ball and also
the spin. The reason was to make it more spectator friendly and for longer
rallies.Since the 40 mm ball has been adopted all I have seen is more
gluing(putting more glue to compensate for the size of the ball), faster
rackets, and rubber. The day of the long rallies never happened. The 40 mm ball
because of its size and weight is easier to hit or drive than the 40mm. It tends
to "stand up" when it bounces making it easy to hit and the tables haven't
helped either. It is very hard to put enough backspin on the ball to make the
opponent have to lift the ball instead of loop driving it. The tables nowdays
have very little friction so the ball tends to go outward , off the table.
Butterfly tables are about the only one that has friction enough you can keep
the ball on the table. The reglue ban is in effect but it is going to be hard to
enforce, plus the rubber manufactors keep just bring out faster rubbers.
   As far as a racket choice and rubber choice I think you should  play with a
allaround speed racket and Sriver 2.0 or similar rubber unglued to fully enjopy
the sport of table tennis. With this racket and rubber choice you can do
everything from loop to chop and experience a wide array of shots. As you are a
amateur player this should give you a lot of satisfaction in learning and
controlling a wide variety of strokes instead of just trying to "kill" every
ball.


           This was written to get other opinions on this subject.

                     Kenneth Beauchamp



________________________________
> To: ATTC@yahoogroups.com
> From: bjcn_bjcn@...
> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:12:42 -0800
> Subject: Re: [ATTA] Re: chatting
>
> Jeff, thanks a lot for your kimd information. We have all the rubbers you
mentioned thouhg some of them are very expensive here. At the moment I still use
gluing rubber coz I am used to it. Most of Chinese amateurs like gluing for
lstrong and fast looping. the gluing rubbers are still availble in the market. I
just worry about the future when the rubbers are not availble. Change rubbers
means a lot changes in many things.
>________________________________
>
> From: ffejman_nguyen
> To: ATTC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:08:12 PM
> Subject: [ATTA] Re: chatting
>
> --- In ATTC@yahoogroups. com, "bjcn" wrote:
>>
>> Hello, everybody there! I am an amatuer table tennis player from
>> Beijing, China. I go to my club 3-4 times a week. I just changed my
>> holding from pen-hold to shakehand-hold last Oct. My blade is
>> butterfly Photino+ Double Happiness Hurrican 39 + Butterfly Sriver-FX.
>> I like gluing very much. At the moment I am considering the use of the
>> rubbers made outside of China so that I will meet the reality of
>> nongluing. therefore I would like to chat with any friends from you
>> about it. Any chat on table tennis would be highly welcomed.
>>
>
> Nice to have you!
> Several rubbers you should consider using that have a speed glue
> effect are: the Butterfly Tenergy 05, Tenergy 25, Ternergy 64;
> Xiom
> Omega I, Omega II, and Omega III; Yasaka Pryde; Andro Roxon 500 and
> Roxon 450; Stiga Boost TC and Boost TP; Tibhar Nimbus, Nimbus Soft,
> Nimbus Sound, Nimbus VIP, Sinus, and Sinus Alpha; Donic Coppa Jo
> Platin, and Coppa Jo Platin Soft. These rubbers are not as fast or as
> spinny as speed glued rubbers but should offer you some degree of the
> "speed glue" feeling.
>
> If you want pure speed you should go for Xiom Omega III or Nimbus VIP.
> If you want more spin but with speed also go for the Tenergys.
>
> -Jeff

bjcn,

better to make the change sooner rather than later. I think all rubbers
are expensive.if anything, buy a bulk amount of what you currently use.
You may get a good price when buying in large amounts. or make the
change to one of the high tension rubbers.

I currently use Nimbus on the FH and it is fast and spinning. I still
have a lot of improvement to do but so far I love the feeling & sound.
I wish I could dial down on the speed a little as it is no forgiving
with a poor stroke. I may get a sheet of the Express 2 for BH but I
haven't seen a vendor with it online yet.

Victor

--- In ATTC@yahoogroups.com, "bjcn" <bjcn_bjcn@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, everybody there! I am an amatuer table tennis player from
> Beijing, China. I go to my club 3-4 times a week. I just changed my
> holding from pen-hold to shakehand-hold last Oct. My blade is
> butterfly  Photino+ Double Happiness Hurrican 39 + Butterfly Sriver-FX.
> I like gluing very much. At the moment I am considering the use of the
> rubbers made outside of China so that I will meet the reality of
> nongluing. therefore I would like to chat with any friends from you
> about it. Any chat on table tennis would be highly welcomed.
>

Nice to have you!
Several rubbers you should consider using that have a speed glue
effect are: the Butterfly Tenergy 05, Tenergy 25, Ternergy 64; Xiom
Omega I, Omega II, and Omega III; Yasaka Pryde; Andro Roxon 500 and
Roxon 450; Stiga Boost TC and Boost TP; Tibhar Nimbus, Nimbus Soft,
Nimbus Sound, Nimbus VIP, Sinus, and Sinus Alpha; Donic Coppa Jo
Platin, and Coppa Jo Platin Soft.  These rubbers are not as fast or as
spinny as speed glued rubbers but should offer you some degree of the
"speed glue" feeling.

If you want pure speed you should go for Xiom Omega III or Nimbus VIP.
  If you want more spin but with speed also go for the Tenergys.

-Jeff

Hello, everybody there! I am an amatuer table tennis player from
Beijing, China. I go to my club 3-4 times a week. I just changed my
holding from pen-hold to shakehand-hold last Oct. My blade is
butterfly  Photino+ Double Happiness Hurrican 39 + Butterfly Sriver-FX.
I like gluing very much. At the moment I am considering the use of the
rubbers made outside of China so that I will meet the reality of
nongluing. therefore I would like to chat with any friends from you
about it. Any chat on table tennis would be highly welcomed.

Friday February 6th is newcomers night and as usual we will be serving
hot dogs, chips and sodas on the house. We will be open from 6 to 10 pm.  Bring
your friends and family for a relaxed evening centered around welcoming newer
players to the club.

Hello everybody! I just got in here few minutes ago.  I am a table
tennis lover too. I go to my table tennis club in Beijing 3-4 times a
week. I like to exchange the topic about table tennis skills and blades
and rubers too. Hopefully  to make new friends here and enjoy the play
with all of you there. Once again good blessing to all of you!

Hello All,

I am wanting to purchase a table for home use, and was looking for
some advice.  I will not be able to have it permanently setup, as I
park my car in the garage, so I will need a table that can store
easily and is decent enough to handle being taken down after each session.

As far as price, this will be my first table but I want it to last, so
I am looking for something better than the $99 Academy special but I'm
also trying to keep this under say $400.00 if at all possible.  I
understand a used table will most likely be my best bet, so other than
Craigslist, I was hoping someone could tell me where else I could look
and what brand/models I should keep an eye out for.

Thanks in advance, I played at the club for the first time yesterday
afternoon, and had a blast!

Three more photos added from 1/17 and 1/24.

Victor

hey there group,

I posted a new photo album for those of you that have yet to come by
because you don't know where it is. This will be beneficial to new
people once the club is open. If you have any suggestions, post em.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ATTC/photos/album/1664011726/pic/list

Victor

The Board of Directors met Sunday evening to review club finances.
Club fees and membership dues were discussed. It was agreed
unanimously that it is in the best interest of the club to increase
fees in March. The current fees and dues have been in place for many
years, and as costs to run the club increase, so must the fees so that
the club can continue to be successful. We estimate moving into our
new facility in March, and our monthly expenses will increase
significantly then.

In our current lease at the Lamar facility, our contract includes a
$100 increase in monthly rent each year. So, even if we were not
moving into a new facility, an increase in fees would be necessary in
the near future.

Following are the new fees and dues effective 3/1/2009:

Fee        Daily   Monthly   Annual*
--------   -----   -------   ------
Adults     $7      $50       $500
Family     NA      $70       $700
Under 18   $4      $30       $300
Students** $7      $30       NA
Lifetime membership: $9,000***

*   We are not accepting annual memberships until March 1, 2009.
**  Must be full-time student with at least 12 fall semester hours or
6 summer semester hours. A current student ID must be presented.
*** Actual value - $1,800. Tax deductible portion - $7,200.

It's not easy for any leadership to announce increases, but we believe
these rates are reasonable and make sense for the club. A monthly
adult member who plays all 4 open days each week is effectively paying
a little over $3 per day. If he plays 3x per week (like many of our
members do), it's a little more than $4 per day. If he plans to play 2
or more times per week, a monthly membership is still more affordable
than paying the daily fee each time and equates to $6.25 per day.

[For anyone not familiar with our membership system, there are no
strings attached. There are no contracts to sign, and you can go back
to paying daily any time you like. We only require that monthly
payments be made near the beginning of a month and they are effective
for a calendar month. We don't pro-rate dues.]

We plan to post a notice at the club in addition to this email. If you
have any questions, please email information@....

Thanks and we'll see you at the club, or at the building site.

Joe

My daughter gave me an old set she found antique shopping.  The racket
is 5-ply, green on both sides, with short hard rubber pips.  Both sides
identical. Appears old to me.  38mm balls in set.  Box says table
tennis corporation of America (TATCO) from New Jersey.  Racket feels
heavy, grip is 14-ply with decal "driver".  Anyone know about these
paddles? Can't find info on net.  Bob Stockburger

Ok, so maybe you want to volunteer but building construction isn't
your thing -- sign up to help out with the Special Olympics Texas
Winter Games on Saturday, February 7th. They need help with
organizing, parking, and officiating. There are two time slots and
they need 10-12 people for each slot, morning and afternoon. This will
take place at our current Lamar facility.

Visit http://wg09tt.eventbrite.com/ now and sign up using their
ticketing feature.

Our club has been involved with Special Olympics Texas in the past and
it's always a rewarding experience for everyone!

Thanks,

Joe

 

Sorry, I have a conflict this weekend, and since I haven't received any
interest from anyone else to help run it, we'll shoot for next month.

Hey, why not go out and help work on the new building? The team will be
out there this Saturday and Sunday from 8:30-4pm. Just come out for a
couple hours and help out. Email information@... <mailto:information%40austintabletennis.com>  and
we'll send you directions and the gate code.

Thanks,

Joe

 
    

Sorry, I have a conflict this weekend, and since I haven't received any
interest from anyone else to help run it, we'll shoot for next month.

Hey, why not go out and help work on the new building? The team will be
out there this Saturday and Sunday from 8:30-4pm. Just come out for a
couple hours and help out. Email information@... and
we'll send you directions and the gate code.

Thanks,

Joe

Check out the status of the new building. Several members volunteered
last weekend on Saturday and/or Sunday. The west side wall panels are
up, and the roof is paneled, so we now have some cover from rain and
sun. There is a ton of work to do, and everyone is welcomed to come
help. Email information@austintabletennis if you'd like to be added to
the building volunteer email list so you'll know when to come help out.

http://sports.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/ATTC/photos/browse/d90d

Enjoy!

http://sports.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/ATTC/photos/browse/d90d

The foundation is complete, the drives are paved, and now the steel
frame is going up. We have a construction crew doing the work where it
makes the most sense, but there are a handful of members doing
everything we can do on our own to save the club money.

There will be a lot more work for us when the exterior walls and roof
are up, so if you're thinking "well, I haven't volunteered yet, and now
it seems like it's too late," you're wrong. It's not too late, and
we'll need you. Email information@... and we'll add
you to our Building email list so you get every opportunity to help out.

See you at the club (or at the job site)!

Our "Second Saturday" novice clinic is set for this Saturday at 10am.

The cost for the clinic is the facility fee -- $5 for adults and $2
for 17 and under. The fee is good for the whole day.

If you've been thinking about coming to the club, this is the perfect
way to get started. Or, if you've been to the club but want some extra
help with your game come practice with us.

(If any other experienced players want to help with instruction, please
come.)

Email codes@... for an autoreply with the gate code
and entry information, or email information@... with
questions about the clinic.

See you there!

Joe

Murray,

I have similar situation.  Need a table, but no room in the house.
So I have a Prince Advantage Outdoor Table Tennis Table in a sport
court I built in my back yard.  I considered this a "better" outdoor
table.  It is a $600 table.  It is a treated composite construction –
  and it is heavy.  I do not fold it up or move it.  It is not an
aluminum table.  Aluminum is cheaper, lighter, and more weather
proof.  I'm an unranked player, so I don't notice a feel difference
as it is "water-proofed" composite wood construction and to me feels
and sounds like any other wood table tennis table I have played.
There is no metal on the surface.  If your area is outdoor AND
covered, then I could recommend this table, since you could use a
cloth leaf cover over a water proof cover - and negate the
condensation problem.  The key is to keep the sun AND water off the
table.  However, my court is fully outdoor, and while I cover this
table with a Stiga cover when not in use, condensation and moisture
under the cover is attacking the surface, and after 2 years, it has
started to delaminate.  If your area is fully exposed to the
elements, then I would look for a better and more weather proof
table than the Prince.  Overall, the family and I enjoy the back
yard table.  There are so many nice days in Austin and it is hard to
beat the fun it provides and gets you out of the house too!

Hope this helps.  Thanks, Jeff



--- In ATTC@yahoogroups.com, "yarrumw" <murray.williams@...> wrote:
>
> I have just started playing again and have recently begun coming
to the
> ATTC a couple of times a week.  I live in South Austin, so it is
not
> always convenient for me to make the journey up North.  I have
been
> thinking of getting a table for home, but I don't really have any
place
> to put it inside the house (the garage is not an option).  I have
been
> thinking of getting an outdoor table for my patio that I would
keep
> covered and folded up, but on the patio, when not in use.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with any of the better outdoor
tables?
> The ones that I have been considering have Aluminum composite
> construction for the top.  I'm wondering how "normal" the bounce
is off
> of these tables.  Also do they sound like a normal table or is it
a
> metallic ping when the ball hits the table?
>
> thanks,
> Murray
>