Dean-- Great idea for a study. A couple random thoughts: -- Substitution. Teams can not only call a play or change defenses during timeouts, they can also...
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mikel_ind
Sep 4, 2002 1:51 am
Here's a study of how each state has contributed NBA players, by decade. Rather than list numbers of players, I have listed total minutes played, by state of...
Not quite north, and not quite south, but interesting trends. Per-year NBA minutes of all players hailing from various states. District of Columbia era '50s...
Units are NBA minutes per 1000 population. Yearly averages since 1990, divided by 1990 population (census data). per 1000 R State (NBA min./1000 pop.) 115. B...
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HoopStudies
Sep 4, 2002 6:06 am
My growin' up state of Hawaii had a player? Who was that? I thought I was the only person outside of Chaminade who played over there. ... data)....
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Michael K. Tamada
tamada2
Sep 4, 2002 9:37 am
... Interesting stats. I don't know what conclusions to draw, but I believe it is the case that those Top 5 states all have relatively low percentages of...
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mikel_ind
Sep 4, 2002 12:10 pm
(DeanO wrote:) ... Hawaii had a player? Who was that? ... Red Rocha (1948-57) was from Hawaii. Cedric Ceballos ('91-00) was born there and went to HS in...
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HoopStudies
Sep 4, 2002 6:27 pm
... Actually Michigan gets a lot of whites to play, having finished HS there. There are actually quite a few good whites, but they don't get the exposure that...
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mikel_ind
Sep 4, 2002 11:43 pm
... This is a bogus issue. Exposure doesn't get you into the NBA; being good enough does. A great player dominates in high school, stars in college, etc....
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HoopStudies
Sep 5, 2002 1:09 am
... don't ... being ... in ... It's not a bogus issue until you prove it is. The world is loaded with people who assume that information is perfect. It...
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doc319
Sep 5, 2002 5:17 am
In some earlier posts I questioned both the relevance of determining the racial demographics of the NBA and the methodology for doing so. I will not rehash...
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mikel_ind
Sep 5, 2002 8:08 am
... - ... family ... I trimmed the list down to guys who have logged 100 NBA minutes or 200 ABA minutes, since 1952. The list had many more players than this....
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mikel_ind
Sep 5, 2002 8:26 am
... My stuff is showing that in certain parts of the country, there is some white participation in the game of basketball, while in others there is not. It...
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HoopStudies
Sep 5, 2002 6:40 pm
... is ... aspirations. Your stuff isn't showing participation. It's showing success. Very big distinction. ... by ... impact ... You need a lot of different...
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McKibbin, Stuart
thefiend42
Sep 11, 2002 7:43 pm
I'm curious if there could be some statistical definition of what a ballhog is. Some level of shots per assists, or shots per possesion. What would be the...
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Michael K. Tamada
tamada2
Sep 11, 2002 8:17 pm
... Maybe a better index would be some measure of "percent of offensive touches", possibly ameliorated somewhat by assists. That is, there's the stereotypical...
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Dean Oliver
HoopStudies
Sep 11, 2002 11:27 pm
Shammond Williams has been called a ballhog. Kevin McHale. Others? My sense is that the term does come up when a player insists on making _something_ happen...
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Mike G
mikel_ind
Sep 11, 2002 11:33 pm
... a ballhog ... I think a ballhog is someone who only wants to determine the outcome of the possession, for better or worse. In other words, he would rather...
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john wallace craven
Johnny_Slick
Sep 11, 2002 11:51 pm
... Dominique, of COURSE. Allen Iverson always gets called one, though I don't know how fair that is. Jerry Stackouse up until last year, JR Rider... ... Well,...
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Dean Oliver
HoopStudies
Sep 12, 2002 1:35 am
... other time ... seconds ... His teammates didn't really like playing with him, I hear. ... offensive ... the ... J-Will ... career. Interesting because I...
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harlanzo
Sep 12, 2002 1:56 am
The best definition of ballhog seems like it should be the guy who wants to determine the outcome of the possession. This of course varies by position. A...
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McKibbin, Stuart
thefiend42
Sep 12, 2002 2:01 am
Kobe Bryant for sure up to 2001. At least that's what the papers, teammates and Phil said Iverson. I counted Iverson touches in the 2001 Finals, he shot the...
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Dean Oliver
HoopStudies
Sep 12, 2002 2:12 am
... teammates ... Like Dominique, I have him being too efficient to be considered a ballhog. So maybe I drop the efficient qual, but that lets in a lot of...
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Michael K. Tamada
tamada2
Sep 12, 2002 2:56 am
... Taking into account the differences by position is important, I think. [...] ... [...] ... Marbury and Stoudamire, and one might add Payton to this list,...
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Mike G
mikel_ind
Sep 12, 2002 11:35 am
... per ... This might be key to the definition. Was Dominique taking the most shots, despite having one of the lower shooting pcts on his team? Maybe : ...
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Mike G
mikel_ind
Sep 12, 2002 11:54 am
Here are Dominique Wilkins' and teammates' numbers in years they got out of the first round. Adding assist rate to this list. 1986 (9 games) player -- pct....
