I talked to Dave Berri the other day and discussed some of the work he has done. Among the things he talked about that I found interesting: 1. Competitive...
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HoopStudies
Jun 18, 2002 3:57 pm
Someone took a shot at it using a TENDEX system: http://www.mindspring.com/~lzamuda/winsexplained.htm I don't think Sean Smith, the developer, has win shares =...
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Dean Oliver
HoopStudies
Jun 18, 2002 4:34 pm
I was thinking about good players who basically got booted from the league for attitude. The first guy I always think of is Walter Berry, the former St. Johns...
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McKibbin, Stuart
thefiend42
Jun 18, 2002 5:07 pm
Attitudes. Nowadays I'd say Jim Jackson, Chris Gatling, Rod Strickland, Oakley, Doug Christie (I guess that's really his wife's attitude), Sam Cassell, Van...
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HoopStudies
Jun 18, 2002 5:58 pm
... Strickland, Oakley, Doug Christie (I guess that's really his wife's attitude), Sam Cassell, Van Exel, Laettner. The don't fit your definition of being...
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john wallace craven
Johnny_Slick
Jun 18, 2002 6:04 pm
... Hmmm... Jason Kidd hasn't been exactly booted from the league, but he has switched teams twice because of an inability to get along with a player or the...
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HoopStudies
Jun 18, 2002 7:15 pm
... the ... Berry, ... the Year ... a ... be ... they ... difficulties. ... he has ... player or ... Rider is ... league in ... crappy ... Spangled ... and ......
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bchaikin@...
Jun 18, 2002 8:20 pm
hot fudge williams?....love it....hadn't heard that one.......
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bchaikin@...
Jun 18, 2002 8:29 pm
vernon maxwell played for 8 different teams in 13 seasons, and was a starter for 6-8 of those years, so he doesn't qualify for the ...
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bchaikin@...
Jun 18, 2002 8:31 pm
also if i remember didn't oliver miller turn down a huge-something-like 3 year $9 million contract ($3 mil/season) from toronto to play out his option with i...
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alleyoop2
Jun 19, 2002 12:42 pm
Are we talking about players who had bad attitudes or players who had weight problems? Oliver Miller, Dinner Bell Mel Turpin, Ike Austin and John Hot Plate...
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mikel_ind
Jun 22, 2002 1:21 pm
... I actually like this. It's got some iffy assumptions, but it seems to merge the concepts of individual and team success. Looking at his alltime rankings,...
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harlanzo
Jun 24, 2002 12:34 am
win shares is definitely an interesting concept but I wonder if it is a bit forced. to me, the most useful stat is points produced (versus of course points...
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John Maxwell
John.Maxwell@...
Jun 24, 2002 5:55 pm
Anybody know where I might find some information on all-time twins that have played in the NBA? One of our players on the WNBA's Charlotte Sting (Kelly Miller)...
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John Maxwell
John.Maxwell@...
Jun 24, 2002 5:56 pm
Okay. Scratch that. I think I found the info at the apbr site....
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HoopStudies
Jun 24, 2002 8:10 pm
... I guess I looked at the numbers for the wins per year, rather than career wins. I don't think there really is a good philosophical way of evaluating...
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Ed Weiland
weiland1029@...
Jun 26, 2002 2:50 am
... The only two I can come up with off the top off my head are Horace and Harvey Grant and Tom and Dick Van Arsdale. This site listing famous twins: ...
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HoopStudies
Jun 26, 2002 3:41 am
... Jason and Jarron Collins are twins in the league. Were Oliver and Cliff Robinson (the older one) twins? Both born on 3/13/60. Charles and Carl Thomas born...
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Ed Weiland
weiland1029@...
Jun 27, 2002 11:04 am
Any thoughts on how good/bad this guy will turn out to be? My guess is he'll do pretty well. His numbers in the CBA suggest he was a dominant force in that...
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alleyoop2
Jun 27, 2002 2:17 pm
I believe the Thomases were twins, yes. A good, though time- consuming, way to check is to flip through an NBA encyclopedia. If two players have the same last...
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alleyoop2
Jun 27, 2002 2:20 pm
I think he'll be quite good. He compares to Rik Smits because he's tall and can shoot, but he's an inch taller than Smits, weighs 30 pounds more and doesn't...
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HoopStudies
Jun 27, 2002 4:51 pm
I have very mixed feelings, having never seen him do much more than shoot around, get stomped by the Americans in the Olympics, and see highlight reels. I hate...
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Charles L. Steinhardt
charles@...
Jun 27, 2002 5:08 pm
There's another consideration here, of course. Whoever took Yao was going to get an immediate and substantial bump in their fanbase. Even if he struggles...
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HoopStudies
Jun 27, 2002 5:19 pm
Do teams get a proportionate amount of their own merchandise sales? Or is that all league $? I do think you're right, though, that he will draw a lot of ...
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bchaikin@...
Jun 27, 2002 6:38 pm
last i heard the NBA generates about $3,000,000,000 annually in the sales of NBA paraphernalia (caps, shirts, etc) and i think the league splits that evenly...
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Charles L. Steinhardt
charles@...
Jun 27, 2002 7:27 pm
I don't know about merchandising, but surely they get ticket sales. And there will be Chinese that do business in the US that will be interested in seeing...
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Charles L. Steinhardt
charles@...
Jun 27, 2002 7:38 pm
... Yep. ... Philly fans aren't fun to develop in front of. I'm one of them :) Well, I'm a Celtics fan - born in Boston - but from Philly. ... Then this has...
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HoopStudies
Jun 27, 2002 8:30 pm
... Well, ... Exactly how is this possible? It is rather important how the PR goes for high picks in general. I don't think it is just Rudy T, though, who has...
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Charles L. Steinhardt
charles@...
Jun 28, 2002 3:03 am
... Born in Boston = Celtics fan. Moved to Philly, but still have to be a Celtics fan. ... Well, Philly fans are also pretty tough... I think Bradley would...
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mikel_ind
Jun 28, 2002 2:02 pm
... Maybe that's my problem! ... year ... Last year, the Rockets were 25-25 when Francis played 35 minutes or more, 2-13 when he was available but played 0-34...
