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Re: [AERCMembersForum] Re: Breast collar recommendations?

Elizabeth Walker wrote:

Well - there are good and bad points for everything.  I ride with one, but I've seen a horse tearing back and forth through a ride camp with the saddle held on *just* by the breast collar - the girth was loose, and the saddle was hanging off the side, flopping around and totally freaking the horse out.  


There are risk in everything you do and every piece of tack you use. I've seen horses get brush caught up in a breast collar, the horse panic and injure himself and rider. Would not using a breast collar been better in that case - probably. I've seen a saddle come off under a horse's belly causing the horse to panic and the rider injured. Would a breast collar helped - probably.

I've personally had a saddle come off the side while I was galloping down a trail around a curve to have to duck a big limb fast. The breast collar kept the saddle from going completely around so I could bring the horse to a stop, get off and fix it. Was I glad I had the breast collar on at that time - yep. The problem in that case was it was an old Wintec, the tree was "too flexible" and the saddle didn't really fit the horse well.

In general I don't ride with a breast collar. However, I don't need one. My saddle fits my horse quite well. I use a girth with elastic straps on both sides so I can keep it snug and the horse can still have room to expand. I've ridden some pretty steep hills in the SE and some really steep inclines in some of the old phosphate pits in Florida and the saddle stays just fine. From time to time I will, however, use one. They give you some extra places to snap stuff like sponges. Am I taking some risk not riding with one - probably. However, that is compensated for the risk I don't take if the breast collar got tangled up in something.

I'd say evaluate if you really need one and if you feel more comfortable with one than without one - by all means use one. All that being said, Higher Mark Tack ( http://www.highermark.com) and Teddy (http://www.runningbear.com/) make some nice ones.

Truman

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I agree totally.  I have 3 heart monitors and never use one of them.  What I tell people new to the sport is use what you have.  Ride the horse you already...
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We use this breast collar - we like it quite a bit. My first one I found used...try reading the ads on endurance.net and a few other places... My husband has...
Karla Perkins
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... I was recently riding with another horse whose rider came off and the saddle turned. The horse bolted and ran a mile or so back to the barn. When I got...
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Not only can a breast collar save an expensive saddle as Angie said, it can also save a life.  There was a major accident several years ago at a 100 miler. ...
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Well - there are good and bad points for everything. I ride with one, but I've seen a horse tearing back and forth through a ride camp with the saddle held on...
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... There are risk in everything you do and every piece of tack you use. I've seen horses get brush caught up in a breast collar, the horse panic and injure...
Truman Prevatt
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I do firmly believe in breastcollars for safety... look at any picture of me and my horse, and you'll see I use a breastplate and crupper (I ride treeless)....
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More on Breast Collars: Ride Managers can also put in their Ride Rules that you MUST have a breast collar on your horse. The Tevis Cup Ride has that rule. No...
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More on Breast Collars: Ride Managers can also put in their Ride Rules that you MUST have a breast collar on your horse. The Tevis Cup Ride has that rule. No...
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I sure wouldn't ride in the canyons (or probably anywhere else) without a breast collar, however, having read the Tevis rules many times over, and starting the...
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Hi Kathy: The new Tevis rule was added in a more recent year. What years did you ride? If before about 2004 it was not in their rules. Go back and read my...
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... I was unable to find any such rule in the 2009 rules on the Tevis website: http://www.teviscup.org/forms/2009_rules.pdf Can somebody show me where in this...
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I rode Tevis in 2005, 2006, 2007 and there was no rule regarding tack. There was no tack check on ride day. There is no mention of any equipment requirement...
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"... the saddle held on *just* by the breast collar .." One reason that I have used both a breast collar and a crupper for years since seeing a similar runaway...
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I once read a statement by Len Brown who originated the Orthoflex saddles and it was to the effect that you should always use a breast collar and a crupper. ...
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