thank you very much for the invite.........all though I can't make the May tourny, the one in October souds great. Money permitting I will try my best to commit. Thanks again for the invite,
Jeff Thill
gee bee <geegee169@...> wrote:
hey i don't know you jeff look like your a hockey table champ(great)
comme & kick our but on coleco 5380 in quebec may 13th or montreal oct,7th
we love new chalange & great players & in the quebec province you'll meet
a lot of great players ciao amigo hope to see you in 1 of those event
forgot to say the montreal rosebowld (stiga event) but i don't remember the date
i
think is in may????????? salouté
aj5380 <aj5380@...> a écrit :
Congratulations Jeff. For all of you who don't know Jeff, he is a champion on Stiga, a Champion on Coleco S-Slot, and a champion on Coleco CTHL and MHL. More than that, Jeff Thill is class act ALL the way! Way to Jeff, and P.S. to Carlo, Jeff was the semifinalist in the Coleco Classic in Las Vegas (Jan. 2006) and lost to the Stanley Cup champion. So you Montrealers better comne to Vegas next January. Way to go Jeff, and let's figure out how to get the MHL results in the rankings!
..aj5380
--- In ACTHF@yahoogroups.com, jrzonca@... wrote: > > Hello everybody. Jeff Thill is Chicagolands top Coleco player right > now. Here is the write up by Mr. Rich Thill of South Holland Illinois on > his
Miniature Hockey League / MHL. I know there are lots of real good > Coleco players and different styles of Coleco games, pucks, nets and > rules. No one can beat the Thills on their beautifully built game's and > MHL rules. Think you got game?? Step into the "Devils Den" Play the > Thills. Everyone walks out a loser LOL!! Dem guys are good! > > WRTIE UP BY MR. RICH THILL ---> > > > > MHL 2006 > > > Well, April 8th has come and gone and we've played for another > championship. Jeff Thill has won his 4th MHL cup in 5 years, only > interrupted by myself, Rich Thill, in 2004 by winning my 7th > championship. I also hold a record of being in the championship, 7 game > series, for 15 straight appearances. It used to be fairly easy to win > the cup for me until my son Jeff came into his own 5 years ago when he > started
competing in our league. Everything I've taught him and some > things he's learned from other people, and his own unique plays has made > him a top contender on the coleco 5385, 5340, and 5200 which are the > games we play on in the MHL. I used to be the dominate player in the > MHL, but that is no longer the case. Playing my son Jeff is like sitting > in a mirror and playing myself, only tougher. > I've been playing table hockey since I first bought a game at Toys R Us > back in 1970. I've played on a regular basis since then, forming leagues > since 1973 when I returned from my 1st North American tournament in New > York City, where 200 guys showed from all over the US and Canada to > compete. After playing in several leagues that I formed I decided that > we need a beautiful cup to compete for each year like the Stanley Cup. > So, in 1983 I constructed the
MHL invitational cup and at the end of > each table hockey season we would compete to see whose name would be > engraved on the cup for that year. I used to play for my own pride and > tried to rack up as many championships as I could. When I had my 2 sons, > I always hoped that they too would have the love for the game that I do. > Well, I got my wish and at least 1 of my sons has the same passion for > the game I do. I think he's proven that by winning 4 out of 5 > championships he has competed for in our league. I'm very proud of his > abilities and I'm gland that he's as good, no better, than I am at the > game. > We've always had a vezina trophy in the MHL, and this year I've designed > what I think is a perfect vezina trophy for table hockey. Instead of > getting a trophy each year you win this one only once, and every year > after that if you
are lucky enough to win the vezina again you get a > small plaque to put on your existing trophy. The original trophy will > hold 13 dates, and if you should win more than that you need to add a > larger base to the existing one. I'm proud to say that I've hand made > this trophy and will continue to do so as long as I'm able. I might add > that ironically this year Jeff beat me out of the vezina by 1 goal… Can > You Believe It! That's never been done before in the MHL. (One more > little fact about our MHL champ Jeff Thill; not only is he an excellent > coleco player, Jeff has a skill I don't possess… he's also a great > stiga player, which is a talent I don't think I'll ever have-Oh well!) > > Our league has been open to the public since 2005 when the CTHL closed > their doors. I offered an alternative league for those that wanted to > continue to play
coleco on the same style games except we play with the > small stock nets which I also make, I might add. Our league is located > in South Holland, Illinois in the 2nd story of my home. A permanent set > up on heavy duty hand built games with ice levelers, curved wingers hand > made, small stock sized nets, and automatic puck returns which only > require one puck for a whole 3, 5 minute period game. > > In the 2 years our league has been open to everyone we've had top coleco > players come and go. But the two players I'm most grateful to are Jerry > March and Dan Lord, who have come week after week and graced the MHL > with their skills. Dan Lord with his wing to center passes as well as a > blazing slap shot from both sides, and jerry March with his brick wall > defense and a pretty good low tip of his own. Many thanks to both of > these guys for
supporting the MHL; we are proud to have you in our > league. > Well that wraps up the 2006 MHL season. > Now, its on to Jim Rzonca's LTHL season ending tournament, then the LTHL > coleco shark tank tournament which Jeff Thill is the defending champ of. > Then it's on to the LTHL US Open, probably the most prestigious > tournament of the whole year for us. > > Yes, it's good to be a table hockey enthusiast in the Chicago Land area. > > Commish > Rich Thill > "Garbageman" > > PHOTOS!!!! Checkout Jeff Thill with the MHL Champions and Vezina > trophies! Nice hardware indeed! > > > http://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/jeff_cup.jpg > > http://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/jeff_vezina.jpg > > http://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/mhl_cup.jpg > > http://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/vezina.jpg > > GO TO THE MHL web site: http://www.students.niu.edu/~z131812/index.html >
hey i don't know you jeff look like your a hockey table champ(great)
comme & kick our but on coleco 5380 in quebec may 13th or montreal oct,7th
we love new chalange & great players & in the quebec province you'll meet
a lot of great players ciao amigo hope to see you in 1 of those event
forgot to say the montreal rosebowld (stiga event) but i don't remember the date
i think is in may????????? salouté
aj5380 <aj5380@...> a écrit :
Congratulations Jeff. For all of you who don't know Jeff, he is a champion on Stiga, a Champion on Coleco S-Slot, and a champion on Coleco CTHL and MHL. More than that, Jeff Thill is class act ALL the way! Way to Jeff, and P.S. to Carlo, Jeff was the semifinalist in the
Coleco Classic in Las Vegas (Jan. 2006) and lost to the Stanley Cup champion. So you Montrealers better comne to Vegas next January. Way to go Jeff, and let's figure out how to get the MHL results in the rankings!
..aj5380
--- In ACTHF@yahoogroups.com, jrzonca@... wrote: > > Hello everybody. Jeff Thill is Chicagolands top Coleco player right > now. Here is the write up by Mr. Rich Thill of South Holland Illinois on > his Miniature Hockey League / MHL. I know there are lots of real good > Coleco players and different styles of Coleco games, pucks, nets and > rules. No one can beat the Thills on their beautifully built game's and > MHL rules. Think you got game?? Step into the "Devils Den" Play the > Thills. Everyone walks out a loser LOL!! Dem guys are good! > > WRTIE UP BY MR. RICH THILL ---> > > > > MHL 2006 >
> > Well, April 8th has come and gone and we've played for another > championship. Jeff Thill has won his 4th MHL cup in 5 years, only > interrupted by myself, Rich Thill, in 2004 by winning my 7th > championship. I also hold a record of being in the championship, 7 game > series, for 15 straight appearances. It used to be fairly easy to win > the cup for me until my son Jeff came into his own 5 years ago when he > started competing in our league. Everything I've taught him and some > things he's learned from other people, and his own unique plays has made > him a top contender on the coleco 5385, 5340, and 5200 which are the > games we play on in the MHL. I used to be the dominate player in the > MHL, but that is no longer the case. Playing my son Jeff is like sitting > in a mirror and playing myself, only tougher. > I've been playing table
hockey since I first bought a game at Toys R Us > back in 1970. I've played on a regular basis since then, forming leagues > since 1973 when I returned from my 1st North American tournament in New > York City, where 200 guys showed from all over the US and Canada to > compete. After playing in several leagues that I formed I decided that > we need a beautiful cup to compete for each year like the Stanley Cup. > So, in 1983 I constructed the MHL invitational cup and at the end of > each table hockey season we would compete to see whose name would be > engraved on the cup for that year. I used to play for my own pride and > tried to rack up as many championships as I could. When I had my 2 sons, > I always hoped that they too would have the love for the game that I do. > Well, I got my wish and at least 1 of my sons has the same passion for > the game I do. I
think he's proven that by winning 4 out of 5 > championships he has competed for in our league. I'm very proud of his > abilities and I'm gland that he's as good, no better, than I am at the > game. > We've always had a vezina trophy in the MHL, and this year I've designed > what I think is a perfect vezina trophy for table hockey. Instead of > getting a trophy each year you win this one only once, and every year > after that if you are lucky enough to win the vezina again you get a > small plaque to put on your existing trophy. The original trophy will > hold 13 dates, and if you should win more than that you need to add a > larger base to the existing one. I'm proud to say that I've hand made > this trophy and will continue to do so as long as I'm able. I might add > that ironically this year Jeff beat me out of the vezina by 1 goal… Can > You Believe
It! That's never been done before in the MHL. (One more > little fact about our MHL champ Jeff Thill; not only is he an excellent > coleco player, Jeff has a skill I don't possess… he's also a great > stiga player, which is a talent I don't think I'll ever have-Oh well!) > > Our league has been open to the public since 2005 when the CTHL closed > their doors. I offered an alternative league for those that wanted to > continue to play coleco on the same style games except we play with the > small stock nets which I also make, I might add. Our league is located > in South Holland, Illinois in the 2nd story of my home. A permanent set > up on heavy duty hand built games with ice levelers, curved wingers hand > made, small stock sized nets, and automatic puck returns which only > require one puck for a whole 3, 5 minute period game. > > In the 2 years our
league has been open to everyone we've had top coleco > players come and go. But the two players I'm most grateful to are Jerry > March and Dan Lord, who have come week after week and graced the MHL > with their skills. Dan Lord with his wing to center passes as well as a > blazing slap shot from both sides, and jerry March with his brick wall > defense and a pretty good low tip of his own. Many thanks to both of > these guys for supporting the MHL; we are proud to have you in our > league. > Well that wraps up the 2006 MHL season. > Now, its on to Jim Rzonca's LTHL season ending tournament, then the LTHL > coleco shark tank tournament which Jeff Thill is the defending champ of. > Then it's on to the LTHL US Open, probably the most prestigious > tournament of the whole year for us. > > Yes, it's good to be a table hockey enthusiast in the Chicago Land
area. > > Commish > Rich Thill > "Garbageman" > > PHOTOS!!!! Checkout Jeff Thill with the MHL Champions and Vezina > trophies! Nice hardware indeed! > > > http://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/jeff_cup.jpg > > http://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/jeff_vezina.jpg > > http://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/mhl_cup.jpg > > http://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/vezina.jpg > > GO TO THE MHL web site: http://www.students.niu.edu/~z131812/index.html >
Congratulations Jeff.
For all of you who don't know Jeff, he is a champion on Stiga, a
Champion on Coleco S-Slot, and a champion on Coleco CTHL and MHL.
More than that, Jeff Thill is class act ALL the way!
Way to Jeff, and P.S. to Carlo, Jeff was the semifinalist in the
Coleco Classic in Las Vegas (Jan. 2006) and lost to the Stanley Cup
champion. So you Montrealers better comne to Vegas next January.
Way to go Jeff, and let's figure out how to get the MHL results in
the rankings!
..aj5380
--- In ACTHF@yahoogroups.com, jrzonca@... wrote:
>
> Hello everybody. Jeff Thill is Chicagolands top Coleco player
right
> now. Here is the write up by Mr. Rich Thill of South Holland
Illinois on
> his Miniature Hockey League / MHL. I know there are lots of real
good
> Coleco players and different styles of Coleco games, pucks, nets
and
> rules. No one can beat the Thills on their beautifully built
game's and
> MHL rules. Think you got game?? Step into the "Devils Den" Play the
> Thills. Everyone walks out a loser LOL!! Dem guys are good!
>
> WRTIE UP BY MR. RICH THILL --->
>
>
>
> MHL 2006
>
>
> Well, April 8th has come and gone and we've played for another
> championship. Jeff Thill has won his 4th MHL cup in 5 years, only
> interrupted by myself, Rich Thill, in 2004 by winning my 7th
> championship. I also hold a record of being in the championship, 7
game
> series, for 15 straight appearances. It used to be fairly easy to
win
> the cup for me until my son Jeff came into his own 5 years ago
when he
> started competing in our league. Everything I've taught him and
some
> things he's learned from other people, and his own unique plays
has made
> him a top contender on the coleco 5385, 5340, and 5200 which are
the
> games we play on in the MHL. I used to be the dominate player in
the
> MHL, but that is no longer the case. Playing my son Jeff is like
sitting
> in a mirror and playing myself, only tougher.
> I've been playing table hockey since I first bought a game at Toys
R Us
> back in 1970. I've played on a regular basis since then, forming
leagues
> since 1973 when I returned from my 1st North American tournament
in New
> York City, where 200 guys showed from all over the US and Canada to
> compete. After playing in several leagues that I formed I decided
that
> we need a beautiful cup to compete for each year like the Stanley
Cup.
> So, in 1983 I constructed the MHL invitational cup and at the end
of
> each table hockey season we would compete to see whose name would
be
> engraved on the cup for that year. I used to play for my own pride
and
> tried to rack up as many championships as I could. When I had my 2
sons,
> I always hoped that they too would have the love for the game that
I do.
> Well, I got my wish and at least 1 of my sons has the same passion
for
> the game I do. I think he's proven that by winning 4 out of 5
> championships he has competed for in our league. I'm very proud of
his
> abilities and I'm gland that he's as good, no better, than I am at
the
> game.
> We've always had a vezina trophy in the MHL, and this year I've
designed
> what I think is a perfect vezina trophy for table hockey. Instead
of
> getting a trophy each year you win this one only once, and every
year
> after that if you are lucky enough to win the vezina again you get
a
> small plaque to put on your existing trophy. The original trophy
will
> hold 13 dates, and if you should win more than that you need to
add a
> larger base to the existing one. I'm proud to say that I've hand
made
> this trophy and will continue to do so as long as I'm able. I
might add
> that ironically this year Jeff beat me out of the vezina by 1 goal…
Can
> You Believe It! That's never been done before in the MHL. (One more
> little fact about our MHL champ Jeff Thill; not only is he an
excellent
> coleco player, Jeff has a skill I don't possess… he's also a great
> stiga player, which is a talent I don't think I'll ever have-Oh
well!)
>
> Our league has been open to the public since 2005 when the CTHL
closed
> their doors. I offered an alternative league for those that wanted
to
> continue to play coleco on the same style games except we play
with the
> small stock nets which I also make, I might add. Our league is
located
> in South Holland, Illinois in the 2nd story of my home. A
permanent set
> up on heavy duty hand built games with ice levelers, curved
wingers hand
> made, small stock sized nets, and automatic puck returns which only
> require one puck for a whole 3, 5 minute period game.
>
> In the 2 years our league has been open to everyone we've had top
coleco
> players come and go. But the two players I'm most grateful to are
Jerry
> March and Dan Lord, who have come week after week and graced the
MHL
> with their skills. Dan Lord with his wing to center passes as well
as a
> blazing slap shot from both sides, and jerry March with his brick
wall
> defense and a pretty good low tip of his own. Many thanks to both
of
> these guys for supporting the MHL; we are proud to have you in our
> league.
> Well that wraps up the 2006 MHL season.
> Now, its on to Jim Rzonca's LTHL season ending tournament, then
the LTHL
> coleco shark tank tournament which Jeff Thill is the defending
champ of.
> Then it's on to the LTHL US Open, probably the most prestigious
> tournament of the whole year for us.
>
> Yes, it's good to be a table hockey enthusiast in the Chicago Land
area.
>
> Commish
> Rich Thill
> "Garbageman"
>
> PHOTOS!!!! Checkout Jeff Thill with the MHL Champions and Vezina
> trophies! Nice hardware indeed!
>
>
> http://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/jeff_cup.jpg
>
> http://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/jeff_vezina.jpg
>
> http://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/mhl_cup.jpg
>
> http://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/vezina.jpg
>
> GO TO THE MHL web site:
http://www.students.niu.edu/~z131812/index.html
>
Hello everybody. Jeff Thill is Chicagolands top Coleco player right
now. Here is the write up by Mr. Rich Thill of South Holland Illinois on
his Miniature Hockey League / MHL. I know there are lots of real good
Coleco players and different styles of Coleco games, pucks, nets and
rules. No one can beat the Thills on their beautifully built game's and
MHL rules. Think you got game?? Step into the "Devils Den" Play the
Thills. Everyone walks out a loser LOL!! Dem guys are good!
WRTIE UP BY MR. RICH THILL --->
MHL 2006
Well, April 8th has come and gone and we've played for another
championship. Jeff Thill has won his 4th MHL cup in 5 years, only
interrupted by myself, Rich Thill, in 2004 by winning my 7th
championship. I also hold a record of being in the championship, 7 game
series, for 15 straight appearances. It used to be fairly easy to win
the cup for me until my son Jeff came into his own 5 years ago when he
started competing in our league. Everything I've taught him and some
things he's learned from other people, and his own unique plays has made
him a top contender on the coleco 5385, 5340, and 5200 which are the
games we play on in the MHL. I used to be the dominate player in the
MHL, but that is no longer the case. Playing my son Jeff is like sitting
in a mirror and playing myself, only tougher.
I've been playing table hockey since I first bought a game at Toys R Us
back in 1970. I've played on a regular basis since then, forming leagues
since 1973 when I returned from my 1st North American tournament in New
York City, where 200 guys showed from all over the US and Canada to
compete. After playing in several leagues that I formed I decided that
we need a beautiful cup to compete for each year like the Stanley Cup.
So, in 1983 I constructed the MHL invitational cup and at the end of
each table hockey season we would compete to see whose name would be
engraved on the cup for that year. I used to play for my own pride and
tried to rack up as many championships as I could. When I had my 2 sons,
I always hoped that they too would have the love for the game that I do.
Well, I got my wish and at least 1 of my sons has the same passion for
the game I do. I think he's proven that by winning 4 out of 5
championships he has competed for in our league. I'm very proud of his
abilities and I'm gland that he's as good, no better, than I am at the
game.
We've always had a vezina trophy in the MHL, and this year I've designed
what I think is a perfect vezina trophy for table hockey. Instead of
getting a trophy each year you win this one only once, and every year
after that if you are lucky enough to win the vezina again you get a
small plaque to put on your existing trophy. The original trophy will
hold 13 dates, and if you should win more than that you need to add a
larger base to the existing one. I'm proud to say that I've hand made
this trophy and will continue to do so as long as I'm able. I might add
that ironically this year Jeff beat me out of the vezina by 1 goal…Can
You Believe It! That's never been done before in the MHL. (One more
little fact about our MHL champ Jeff Thill; not only is he an excellent
coleco player, Jeff has a skill I don't possess… he's also a great
stiga player, which is a talent I don't think I'll ever have-Oh well!)
Our league has been open to the public since 2005 when the CTHL closed
their doors. I offered an alternative league for those that wanted to
continue to play coleco on the same style games except we play with the
small stock nets which I also make, I might add. Our league is located
in South Holland, Illinois in the 2nd story of my home. A permanent set
up on heavy duty hand built games with ice levelers, curved wingers hand
made, small stock sized nets, and automatic puck returns which only
require one puck for a whole 3, 5 minute period game.
In the 2 years our league has been open to everyone we've had top coleco
players come and go. But the two players I'm most grateful to are Jerry
March and Dan Lord, who have come week after week and graced the MHL
with their skills. Dan Lord with his wing to center passes as well as a
blazing slap shot from both sides, and jerry March with his brick wall
defense and a pretty good low tip of his own. Many thanks to both of
these guys for supporting the MHL; we are proud to have you in our
league.
Well that wraps up the 2006 MHL season.
Now, its on to Jim Rzonca's LTHL season ending tournament, then the LTHL
coleco shark tank tournament which Jeff Thill is the defending champ of.
Then it's on to the LTHL US Open, probably the most prestigious
tournament of the whole year for us.
Yes, it's good to be a table hockey enthusiast in the Chicago Land area.
Commish
Rich Thill
"Garbageman"
PHOTOS!!!! Checkout Jeff Thill with the MHL Champions and Vezina
trophies! Nice hardware indeed!
http://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/jeff_cup.jpghttp://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/jeff_vezina.jpghttp://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/mhl_cup.jpghttp://lemonttablehockey.com/_images/thill/vezina.jpg
GO TO THE MHL web site: http://www.students.niu.edu/~z131812/index.html
Hello Eveybody. Im proud to announce that the 2006 ****STIGA U.S.
OPEN**** will be featuring an exhibit of classic table hockey games of
different eras and manufacturers, displayed by an Illinois afficionado.
Steve Giannangelo, a long-time table hockey game collector, will have on
hand 8-10 museum-quality table hockey games from his personal
collection. These games will be on display for the public throughout the
day on Saturday, July 29th.
PLEASE CLICK HERE
http://lemonttablehockey.com/usopen/exhibit/index.htm TO VIEW EXHIBIT
PAGE.
Big THANKS to Steve Giannangelo for comming to Lemont and shareing his
beautiful games with us!
And THANK YOU to Warren Klotz of http://tablehockeyheaven.com for
building this beautiful Vintage Games page!
Please Get over to http://www.tablehockeyheaven.com for ****STIGA U.S.
OPEN**** Updates !!!
Table Hockey Heaven is the finest most informative Table Hockey website
on his earth AND IS THE Official message board of the ****STIGA U.S.
OPEN****
Sweet Home Chicago!
Jim Rzonca
Yes Vic no doubt heavy Roller Puck on the Munro Bobby Orr game would be
a entirely different world for them.
Keep it KrAnKiN out East Vic!
Jim Rzonca
http://www.lemonttablehockey.com/usopen
Hey Classic Fans!
There is a chance there will be a Benej tournament in
Vancouver the day after the Vancouver King Of Table Hockey
Tournament. The tournament would be played on July 2nd on the new
Benej table. We would have
two of them available. More info here
http://tablehockeyheaven.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?
topic_id=589&forum=18
If it happens then there will be both Stiga and Benej on the Canada
Day long weekend... more info at http://KingOfTableHockey.com and
http://tablehockeyheaven.com/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=18
Also:
I was interviewed yesterday and there is now two videos of
myself on the home page of www.GoSee.TV
These videos were shot by Nick Springate, the same guy who did the
Benej videos on www.TableHockey.com
check them out!
Thanks, Warren
Hey Jim,
Thanks for the information, I think John Power will be joining us in
our Connecticut STIGA League, I'll be sure to talk to him then! I
also emailed Lordstanley, thanks for your help!
I played some "Bobby Orr" hockey last night with the rolling puck,
what great fun! I was wondering, as good as the Europeans are at
STIGA, how would they fare on some of our "Classic" boards, eh?
hmmmmmmm.... :)
Vic
--- In ACTHF@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Rzonca" <jrzonca@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello Vic. Most guys are playing plastic BUT Adam Zawislak at
lordstanley00@... and John Power at mrjohnpower@... and i think
Wally Jabs plays some tin man too. Those 3 guys are out east Vic. I
strongly encourage someone to hold a Tin Man event ot east. 12
players minimum for ACTHF sanctioned ranking. It goes up to 16
players minimum Jan 1st. So Please Get with those guys and help put
something together!
>
> Jim Rzonca
> http://www.lemonttablehockey.com/usopen
>
>
>
> --- In ACTHF@yahoogroups.com, "wfflchampsx5" <wfflchampsx5@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone!
> >
> > When is the next "Tin Men Tourney" taking place and is there a
list of
> > all the tourney's in one central location??
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Vic
> > Coleco 5170
> >
>
Hello Vic. Most guys are playing plastic BUT Adam Zawislak at
lordstanley00@... and John Power at mrjohnpower@... and i think
Wally Jabs plays some tin man too. Those 3 guys are out east Vic. I strongly
encourage someone to hold a Tin Man event ot east. 12 players minimum for ACTHF
sanctioned ranking. It goes up to 16 players minimum Jan 1st. So Please Get with
those guys and help put something together!
Jim Rzonca
http://www.lemonttablehockey.com/usopen
--- In ACTHF@yahoogroups.com, "wfflchampsx5" <wfflchampsx5@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> When is the next "Tin Men Tourney" taking place and is there a list of
> all the tourney's in one central location??
>
> thanks,
>
> Vic
> Coleco 5170
>
Hello everyone!
When is the next "Tin Men Tourney" taking place and is there a list of
all the tourney's in one central location??
thanks,
Vic
Coleco 5170
I forgot to mention;
Gretzky, Irwin, Hasbro, etc. made "th" games modeled after
street and roller hockey as well.
-- In ACTHF@yahoogroups.com, "andrewbazan2000" <andrewbazan@...>
wrote:
>
> Hockey, be it table, ice, grass, roller, floor, tonsil, etc. are
> all REAL and all DIFFERENT.
>
> If the best th game is the 1 most resembling ice hockey, then
> that logic may suggest video games are better still (I think Not
> ). Munro, Eagle, Coleco, Bockplast and Stiga all produced slot
> rod soccer games. In some ways, th is more like soccer than hock
> ey. TH is called th for $s (marketing association). Another exam
> ple, Air hockey is more like airless ping pong than hockey. Some
> air hockey games were sold under the name th.
> I love ice/th. I prefer th.
>
> The slot pattern on the BOS was taken from Munro's final Bobby
> Orr/Hull model, but has less square inches; thus, more overlapp-
> ing opposing player figures. Which reminds me of my favorite
> sales slogan-Orr 75- "1,000 square inches of super fast action".
> Stationary Wood games are reproduced by 3? companies. Stationary
> players say there better than slot games (I think Not) 'cause
> there's no hogging the "puck". All slot games have safe zones.
> More overlap doesn't always result in much checking, nor does it
> always make for a better game. With more overlap, players will
> often play slower, safer style combined with little control -
> speed. Whether there's more or less overlap, some skills are
> decreased, others increased.
> Opponents styles decide play as much or more then game design.
>
> What th game has more or less checking and which more closely
> resembles ice hockey (subjective and complex) is laregly irr-
> elevant imHo. It is an interesting, thoughtful study though.
> I could debate either the positives or the negatives of ANY
> high profile game, including my favorite. Most players fav-
> orite game is either or both , the game they grew up on and
> or the 1 that best suits their style (game availability, en-
> dorsement/association are also factors).
> Mr. DuBois and I can play different styles, resulting in an en-
> tertaining series. TH and ice hockey are just that,entertainment
> I'm much more impressed with the level of play and dedication
> then of any game or game (business) producer.
> Knocking a game , especially on message boards primarily promo-
> ting that game, is counter productive for th. Events which in-
> clude set feature matchups on different models, would best pro-
> mote th and is best suited for tix sales, serious sponsership,
> paid TV coverage and th growth imHo. Andrew
>
Dear Andrew,
A very nice essay and right on the money. We all like what we first
played on and got good at.
That said, last Saturday, we had a hockey fiesta in SoCal.
First, Ducks at Kings game, Ducks won and I survived because I was
surrounded by unfriendly (and rich) season ticket holding Kings fans
at ice level (WOW!).
Second, that we had a SoCal table hockey bonanza where we played 46
that's right 46 games! 2 people, and 46 games = 230 minutes of
regulation play and there were at least 10 overtime games.
Third, we watched the 2006 Coleco Classic Finals (taoed in Las Vegas)
which featuring the SoCal S-Slot games. This also marked my
directorial debut (you make a cameo appearance in my video).
So I stagger home the next day being very thankful that my family
understands my passion for this game and puts up with it, and that I
can have a marathon session like this locally (locally defined as
being within 65 miles driving and 2 hours with LA traffic).
What was very interesting was that the TH just got better, and
better and better as the night wore on. Goalies kicked out pucks
with total disdain and stymied the forwards. There were 2 blowouts
in all the games.
All things said, I like the Coleco S-slot game the best. I have made
many modifications over the years that have really improved this
game. I respect all others who have used their skills to modify the
games they play to make them better for everyone, for example Rich
Thill's special nets and chutes on his Coleco MHL games, Jim
Rzonca's lifting table for his CTHL syle games, and Paul Ruiz for
his Stiga net deflectors and other accessories.
You are absolutely right that close spacing does not necessarily
result in a better game. That's why I think that S-shape of the
Coleco 5380 defenseman makes all the difference in simulating the
reality of the game. And let's never compare table hockey to air
hockey or foosball!
good to hear from you,
..aj5380
--- In ACTHF@yahoogroups.com, "andrewbazan2000" <andrewbazan@...>
wrote:
>
> Hockey, be it table, ice, grass, roller, floor, tonsil, etc. are
> all REAL and all DIFFERENT.
>
> If the best th game is the 1 most resembling ice hockey, then
> that logic may suggest video games are better still (I think Not
> ). Munro, Eagle, Coleco, Bockplast and Stiga all produced slot
> rod soccer games. In some ways, th is more like soccer than hock
> ey. TH is called th for $s (marketing association). Another exam
> ple, Air hockey is more like airless ping pong than hockey. Some
> air hockey games were sold under the name th.
> I love ice/th. I prefer th.
>
> The slot pattern on the BOS was taken from Munro's final Bobby
> Orr/Hull model, but has less square inches; thus, more overlapp-
> ing opposing player figures. Which reminds me of my favorite
> sales slogan-Orr 75- "1,000 square inches of super fast action".
> Stationary Wood games are reproduced by 3? companies. Stationary
> players say there better than slot games (I think Not) 'cause
> there's no hogging the "puck". All slot games have safe zones.
> More overlap doesn't always result in much checking, nor does it
> always make for a better game. With more overlap, players will
> often play slower, safer style combined with little control -
> speed. Whether there's more or less overlap, some skills are
> decreased, others increased.
> Opponents styles decide play as much or more then game design.
>
> What th game has more or less checking and which more closely
> resembles ice hockey (subjective and complex) is laregly irr-
> elevant imHo. It is an interesting, thoughtful study though.
> I could debate either the positives or the negatives of ANY
> high profile game, including my favorite. Most players fav-
> orite game is either or both , the game they grew up on and
> or the 1 that best suits their style (game availability, en-
> dorsement/association are also factors).
> Mr. DuBois and I can play different styles, resulting in an en-
> tertaining series. TH and ice hockey are just that,entertainment
> I'm much more impressed with the level of play and dedication
> then of any game or game (business) producer.
> Knocking a game , especially on message boards primarily promo-
> ting that game, is counter productive for th. Events which in-
> clude set feature matchups on different models, would best pro-
> mote th and is best suited for tix sales, serious sponsership,
> paid TV coverage and th growth imHo. Andrew
>
Right on Andrew! Your in a good way these days. Thanks and stay on it man!
Jim Rzonca
--- In ACTHF@yahoogroups.com, "andrewbazan2000" <andrewbazan@...> wrote:
>
> Hockey, be it table, ice, grass, roller, floor, tonsil, etc. are
> all REAL and all DIFFERENT.
>
> If the best th game is the 1 most resembling ice hockey, then
> that logic may suggest video games are better still (I think Not
> ). Munro, Eagle, Coleco, Bockplast and Stiga all produced slot
> rod soccer games. In some ways, th is more like soccer than hock
> ey. TH is called th for $s (marketing association). Another exam
> ple, Air hockey is more like airless ping pong than hockey. Some
> air hockey games were sold under the name th.
> I love ice/th. I prefer th.
>
> The slot pattern on the BOS was taken from Munro's final Bobby
> Orr/Hull model, but has less square inches; thus, more overlapp-
> ing opposing player figures. Which reminds me of my favorite
> sales slogan-Orr 75- "1,000 square inches of super fast action".
> Stationary Wood games are reproduced by 3? companies. Stationary
> players say there better than slot games (I think Not) 'cause
> there's no hogging the "puck". All slot games have safe zones.
> More overlap doesn't always result in much checking, nor does it
> always make for a better game. With more overlap, players will
> often play slower, safer style combined with little control -
> speed. Whether there's more or less overlap, some skills are
> decreased, others increased.
> Opponents styles decide play as much or more then game design.
>
> What th game has more or less checking and which more closely
> resembles ice hockey (subjective and complex) is laregly irr-
> elevant imHo. It is an interesting, thoughtful study though.
> I could debate either the positives or the negatives of ANY
> high profile game, including my favorite. Most players fav-
> orite game is either or both , the game they grew up on and
> or the 1 that best suits their style (game availability, en-
> dorsement/association are also factors).
> Mr. DuBois and I can play different styles, resulting in an en-
> tertaining series. TH and ice hockey are just that,entertainment
> I'm much more impressed with the level of play and dedication
> then of any game or game (business) producer.
> Knocking a game , especially on message boards primarily promo-
> ting that game, is counter productive for th. Events which in-
> clude set feature matchups on different models, would best pro-
> mote th and is best suited for tix sales, serious sponsership,
> paid TV coverage and th growth imHo. Andrew
>
Hockey, be it table, ice, grass, roller, floor, tonsil, etc. are
all REAL and all DIFFERENT.
If the best th game is the 1 most resembling ice hockey, then
that logic may suggest video games are better still (I think Not
). Munro, Eagle, Coleco, Bockplast and Stiga all produced slot
rod soccer games. In some ways, th is more like soccer than hock
ey. TH is called th for $s (marketing association). Another exam
ple, Air hockey is more like airless ping pong than hockey. Some
air hockey games were sold under the name th.
I love ice/th. I prefer th.
The slot pattern on the BOS was taken from Munro's final Bobby
Orr/Hull model, but has less square inches; thus, more overlapp-
ing opposing player figures. Which reminds me of my favorite
sales slogan-Orr 75- "1,000 square inches of super fast action".
Stationary Wood games are reproduced by 3? companies. Stationary
players say there better than slot games (I think Not) 'cause
there's no hogging the "puck". All slot games have safe zones.
More overlap doesn't always result in much checking, nor does it
always make for a better game. With more overlap, players will
often play slower, safer style combined with little control -
speed. Whether there's more or less overlap, some skills are
decreased, others increased.
Opponents styles decide play as much or more then game design.
What th game has more or less checking and which more closely
resembles ice hockey (subjective and complex) is laregly irr-
elevant imHo. It is an interesting, thoughtful study though.
I could debate either the positives or the negatives of ANY
high profile game, including my favorite. Most players fav-
orite game is either or both , the game they grew up on and
or the 1 that best suits their style (game availability, en-
dorsement/association are also factors).
Mr. DuBois and I can play different styles, resulting in an en-
tertaining series. TH and ice hockey are just that,entertainment
I'm much more impressed with the level of play and dedication
then of any game or game (business) producer.
Knocking a game , especially on message boards primarily promo-
ting that game, is counter productive for th. Events which in-
clude set feature matchups on different models, would best pro-
mote th and is best suited for tix sales, serious sponsership,
paid TV coverage and th growth imHo. Andrew
Very cool set of numbers AJ. Coleco 5380 is the game
for contested ice. In real hockey 100% of the ice is
contested so 66% is much closer to real life hockey
than what Stiga offers at 29%. Still Stiga is a very
well designed game when you consider there are no dead
spots, the size and weight of the puck in relation to
the width of the goalie and thre width of the nets
too.
Still, I think 66% contested ice presents players
with a game that is more unpredictable in tournies and
leagues. 66% contested ice also means more turnovers
can and will happen in a game. means puck posession
can not be easily controlled, maintained and that
every second of a game is better used up by both
players of a game. Stop time or bust!
Dominic Froome
Vancouver
--- aj5380 <aj5380@...> wrote:
> This was a scientific study of several table hockey
> games. The
> objective was to determine :
>
> How much of the ice surface is contested space, that
> is, where 2
> players can get to and do something with the puck?
>
> vs.
>
> How much of the ice surface is solo space, that is,
> only one player
> can get to the puck and the other player can do
> nothing but wait.
>
> Here are the results:
>
>
>
>
GAME-------CONTESTED---SOLO--TOTAL---CONT---SOLO-----GAME------GAME
>
TYPE------------AREA---AREA---AREA---AREA---AREA---LENGTH-----WIDTH
>
>
STIGA------------29%....71%....556....164....392....32.5"....17.75"
>
> COLECO
>
5340------41%....59%....694....282....412....34.5"....20.50"
>
> IRWIN
>
PP2--------54%....46%....504....274....230....32.5"....15.75"
>
> COLECO
>
5380------66%....34%....638....420....218....34.0"....19.00"
>
> Lengh in inches +/- 5% error margin. (1 in. = 2.54
> cm)
> Area in square inches (sq. in.)
> Contested area: Both players can get the puck
> Solo Area: Other player can go for a coffee break!
>
> Benej, BOS, Munro lovers, please let me know if you
> are out there,
> somewhere,...I would like to measure your games and
> include them for
> the ACTHF archives.
>
> regards,
> aj5380
>
> copyright 2005 aj5380, 2006 aj5380
>
>
>
>
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This was a scientific study of several table hockey games. The
objective was to determine :
How much of the ice surface is contested space, that is, where 2
players can get to and do something with the puck?
vs.
How much of the ice surface is solo space, that is, only one player
can get to the puck and the other player can do nothing but wait.
Here are the results:
GAME-------CONTESTED---SOLO--TOTAL---CONT---SOLO-----GAME------GAME
TYPE------------AREA---AREA---AREA---AREA---AREA---LENGTH-----WIDTH
STIGA------------29%....71%....556....164....392....32.5"....17.75"
COLECO 5340------41%....59%....694....282....412....34.5"....20.50"
IRWIN PP2--------54%....46%....504....274....230....32.5"....15.75"
COLECO 5380------66%....34%....638....420....218....34.0"....19.00"
Lengh in inches +/- 5% error margin. (1 in. = 2.54 cm)
Area in square inches (sq. in.)
Contested area: Both players can get the puck
Solo Area: Other player can go for a coffee break!
Benej, BOS, Munro lovers, please let me know if you are out there,
somewhere,...I would like to measure your games and include them for
the ACTHF archives.
regards,
aj5380
copyright 2005 aj5380, 2006 aj5380
QUEBEC OPEN VI TOURNAMENT
TABLETOP HOCKEY TOURNAMENT (6th edition)
Édouard-Lavergne Community Center
SATURDAY, MAY 13th 2006 AT 10:00 AM
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* Event Name: "QUEBEC OPEN VI" TOURNAMENT;
* Date: Saturday, May 13th 2006 ;
* City: Quebec City, Québec, Canada (about 2 hours north-east from
Montreal);
* Place: Édouard-Lavergne Community Centre 390, rue Arago Ouest,
Québec(Directions by MapQuest: http://mq-
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3a%26%40%24x9%40);
* Game: brand new "Martin Labelle Coleco model #5380" borads (left-
centerman, re-inforced surface and with plexiglass shields, table
height 35");
* Time: Registration: 10:00 AM ; Start: 10:45 ; End: 8:00 PM;
* Cost: 35$ Can (before May 5th, 40$ afterwards);
* Supper: Quarter chicken supper from St-Hubert (dessert included:
sugar pie, bot not drinks);
* Rewards: Trophy for the champion, engraved Plates for the top 3,
and medals for B & C participation divisions;
* Door prizes: surprises from our sponsors and playoff pool;
* Organizer: Burt Brassard.
* Telephone: (418) 563-5968.
* E-mail: surfburt@...
* Web Site: www.quebecopen.ccthf.com
* Go see the new web site of the CCTHF (Canadian Classic Table
Hockey Federation) to have a schedule of upcoming tournaments:
http://www.abacom.com/~mlabelle/ccthf.htm .
And there is also a discussion forum for fans of the "real classic
table hockey": http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ccth .
_____________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________
Mail your money-order or cheque to my name(35$ before May 5th,or 40$
after):
Burt_Brassard
652,Place_Morin
Vanier, QC G1M 2C1
Don't forget to write your coordinates on your envoy (see response-
coupon to fill below or by e-mail), and to include your payment in
the envelope to be mailed (the stamped date on the envelope being
the sending date)!
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TOURNAMENT FORMAT:
* Preliminary Round: Round-Robin with pools of 15 to 22 people;
* Supper break: around 4:00 PM;
* Playoff Round: a ranking is made, and the whole group is divided
into 3 divisions: "Expert A Division" and "Intermediate B Division"
and "Amateur C Division"; "3 out of 5 elimination series" until the
final (4 out of 7), for each division.
* Duration of games: timed 5 minutes game (overtime only in the
playoffs).
* Minimum number of games per player: 17; 14 in the Regular Season +
3 minimum in the Playoffs...and more if you advance in the playoff
rounds (everyone makes the Playoffs).
GENERAL INFORMATION:
- located near downtown Quebec City;
- many Hotel accomodations nearby (just e-mail me for more details);
- many Restaurants nearby (on Hamel Boulevard mostly);
- you can visit beautiful and historic "Old Quebec" (just ask for
tourist attractions);
- lots of fun in perspective, in a friendly and sportsman's
atmosphere!
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O Original Marble Puck
|0| Munro ball bearing puck (also BOS)
<__> Eagle Diamond puck
[__] Original Coleco Puck
|--| Coleco Hollow Puck
(__) Irwin PP2 puck
{__} Labatt Blue Double Bottlecap puck
=== Stiga Puck (although Stiga is not "Classic")
Did I miss any pucks?
..aj5380
Just wantd to wish you Eric and Bill good luck in the tourney.
I wish I was going but it wasnt in the cards. Have fun and win this thing for us. Joe
Jim Rzonca <jrzonca@...> wrote:
Chicago's 2002 Bud Lite Bubble Boys National Doubles Champion Kelly Walker is confermed for St. Louis! For those who do not know of Kelly he and his partner defeated Chexx Wizard Kenny Dubois and partner in Kelly's last tournament the 2002 Bud Lite Bubble Boys National Finals.
Kelly Walker Randy Aguilar Sr. Randy Aguilar Jr. Bill Rzonca Eric Krol Jim Rzonca
Most TOP Chexx players will be in St. Louis for
this great event.
Of the 46 players on the list i only see 2 Stiga players that i am aware of.
People always have said "Man we got to get the NHL involved in Table Hockey" Well the NHL is now involved. Lou Siville and Ryan Mauss of the National Hockey League's St. Louis Blues have nicley set the tables for a first class VERY PROFESSIONAL style tournament for table hockey players to enjoy. This great event and the IBHF is picking up where Bud Lite severly left off. We here i Chicago will support this St. Louis effort big time and hope more players of various games consider help FUEL this Execellent vechiel for Table Hockey!
This friday we go to St. Louis for some BIG TIME Chexx FUN! Then its on to Boston for some F1 RACING and Stigatime FUN!
Man it would be Very Kool to see Ken on the CHEXX in St. Louis............
P.S. More LTHL CHEXX tournaments in Chicagoland to come very soon!
Chicago's 2002 Bud Lite Bubble Boys National Doubles Champion Kelly Walker is
confermed for St. Louis! For those who do not know of Kelly he and his partner
defeated Chexx Wizard Kenny Dubois and partner in Kelly's last tournament the
2002 Bud Lite Bubble Boys National Finals.
GO TO:
http://www.stlouisblues.com/fanstuff/coolbars/bubblehockey.html
Here is the confermed list from Chicagoland ~
Kelly Walker
Randy Aguilar Sr.
Randy Aguilar Jr.
Bill Rzonca
Eric Krol
Jim Rzonca
Most TOP Chexx players will be in St. Louis for this great event.
Of the 46 players on the list i only see 2 Stiga players that i am aware of.
People always have said "Man we got to get the NHL involved in Table Hockey"
Well the NHL is now involved. Lou Siville and Ryan Mauss of the National Hockey
League's St. Louis Blues have nicley set the tables for a first class VERY
PROFESSIONAL style tournament for table hockey players to enjoy. This great
event and the IBHF is picking up where Bud Lite severly left off. We here i
Chicago will support this St. Louis effort big time and hope more players of
various games consider help FUEL this Execellent vechiel for Table Hockey!
This friday we go to St. Louis for some BIG TIME Chexx FUN! Then its on to
Boston for some F1 RACING and Stigatime FUN!
Man it would be Very Kool to see Ken on the CHEXX in St. Louis............
P.S. More LTHL CHEXX tournaments in Chicagoland to come very soon!
PLAY ST LOUIS!
Jim Rzonca
Thank you Andrew Carlo and Rob! Thu good orginization things will get more FUN
for Classic games players in USA. Thanks for your suport.
Jim Rzonca
--- In ACTHF@yahoogroups.com, "andrewbazan2000" <andrewbazan@...> wrote:
>
> Very Nice to see another site adding more promotion/growth-
> for the Great Game of Table Hockey! I hope to see more
> 1st hand in the days weeks months years ahead!
> Bestist Regards Andrew Bazan
>
Very Nice to see another site adding more promotion/growth-
for the Great Game of Table Hockey! I hope to see more
1st hand in the days weeks months years ahead!
Bestist Regards Andrew Bazan
Congratulations on getting this off the ground. As Ajit's hockey
partner for nearly 30 years, I am delighted at what has been
accomplished organizationally, contact-wise, and game enhancement-wise
over the last five years.
Robert Meer
LAMEERKAT
Thanks Carlo. You are a class act. Following the opinions in many
other posts that you are the man to beat, I hope you and your
friends will be able to make it to one of our Coleco Classic S-slot
tournaments. I look forward to working with you and the guys from La
Belle Province and competing against you again.
regards
...aj5380
--- In ACTHF@yahoogroups.com, "bossiocarlo" <bossiocarlo@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, is there a place for a 33 year old grown kid here :-)
>
> Happy to see that you are moving forward with what we talked about
on
> the phone Ajit.
>
> By joining forces with Jim, even though I never meet him, I'm sure
you
> can't go wrong. I mean just look at everything he has done so far.
>
> I'm sure there are others also which I don't know, so I'd like to
wish
> all of you the best of luck and hopefully I'll get to see you in
> Quebec, MTL & Sherbrooke for our 5380 Coleco events. See Ya
>
> PS: Remember, to be the best you have to beat the best, and in the
> province of Quebec on this board we can offer at least 10 top
caliber
> players. So the callenge is on boys, lets Rock & Roll
>
Hey, is there a place for a 33 year old grown kid here :-)
Happy to see that you are moving forward with what we talked about on
the phone Ajit.
By joining forces with Jim, even though I never meet him, I'm sure you
can't go wrong. I mean just look at everything he has done so far.
I'm sure there are others also which I don't know, so I'd like to wish
all of you the best of luck and hopefully I'll get to see you in
Quebec, MTL & Sherbrooke for our 5380 Coleco events. See Ya
PS: Remember, to be the best you have to beat the best, and in the
province of Quebec on this board we can offer at least 10 top caliber
players. So the callenge is on boys, lets Rock & Roll
LEMONT TABLE HOCKEY LEAGUE
**COLECO SHARK TANK SHOOTOUT**
MAY 14 2006
LEMONT ILLINOIS
Chicago Table Hockey League style games. CTHL rules apply.
Price: $25
Register Contact:
Rzonca Table Hockey Productions
Jim Rzonca (630) 257-8171
jrzonca@...http://www.LemontTableHockey.com/USOPEN
Hello everybody. The ACTHF Leaders and some ACTHF tournament dates will be
posted on this site next week. Thank you to Mark Sokolski, Martin Labelle and
Ron Chesick for their support for this federation. This federation will be run
with respect and along the guidelnes of the CCTHF. Its my intent to hold a
classic game event in conjunction with the International Table Hockey
Championships in Las Vegas and the ****STIGA U.S. OPEN**** Stiga tournaments
with the hope that we can get more players in town for larger table hockey
gatherings. Next week i will have much more information. Talk to you soon.
Jim Rzonca