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#3817

From: Miles Gary <inches805@...>
Date: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:18 pm
Subject: Themes and the padock

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As our car preparations continue for future California LeMons events, we have run across a few questions regaurding the theme.

1. Most of the drivers on our team are in some way or another in a band. With that said, if our theme was somehow music orientated would we be able to set up and play some live music (so long as it is approved by Jay and the LeMons Judges) on the premises? I know there are noise ordinances...so?

2. In addition to, or standing alone, can we have in car audio for others to hear (approval of said music can be by Jay and LeMons Judges)? Again, noise ordinances permitting.

Team (unamed)

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#3818

From: CHRIS OVERZET <fabtoys@...>
Date: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:04 am
Subject: Re: Themes and the padock

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there is a sound ordinance due to the a$$hole on the hill that actually has DB meters . That's a Jay question but would be cool ,what kind of music?

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Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 3:18:35 PM
Subject: [24hoursofLeMons] Themes and the padock

As our car preparations continue for future California LeMons events, we have run across a few questions regaurding the theme.

1. Most of the drivers on our team are in some way or another in a band. With that said, if our theme was somehow music orientated would we be able to set up and play some live music (so long as it is approved by Jay and the LeMons Judges) on the premises? I know there are noise ordinances.. .so?

2. In addition to, or standing alone, can we have in car audio for others to hear (approval of said music can be by Jay and LeMons Judges)? Again, noise ordinances permitting.

Team (unamed)

Miles Gary

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#3819

From: Adam Lazur <adam@...>
Date: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:10 am
Subject: Re: Themes and the padock

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CHRIS OVERZET (fabtoys@...) said:

> there is a sound ordinance due to the a$$hole on the hill that

> actually has? DB meters . That's a Jay question but would be cool

> ,what kind of music?



I think you're thinking Altamont? Or does that asshole's brother live in

Willows?



THill has some signage for noise, but I've never seen anyone busted for

sound there. This includes an obnoxiously loud rx-7 with a straight

pipe.



.adam

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#3820

From: Miles Gary <inches805@...>
Date: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:37 am
Subject: RE: Re: Themes and the padock

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Music varies. One guy plays in cover band...Rolling Stones, STP, and other music you would hear at a dive bar. Another guy plays in a jazz band...Swing, Latin, etc.. I play a little bit of everything. LeMons looks like a good time...perhaps some music could just add to it!

I'll wait on the Jay ruling.

Thanks
Miles

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From: adam@...
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:10:24 -0700
Subject: [24hoursofLeMons] Re: Themes and the padock

CHRIS OVERZET (fabtoys@sbcglobal.net) said:
> there is a sound ordinance due to the a$$hole on the hill that
> actually has? DB meters . That's a Jay question but would be cool
> ,what kind of music?

I think you're thinking Altamont? Or does that asshole's brother live in
Willows?

THill has some signage for noise, but I've never seen anyone busted for
sound there. This includes an obnoxiously loud rx-7 with a straight
pipe.

.adam

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#3821

From: CHRIS OVERZET <fabtoys@...>
Date: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:06 am
Subject: Re: Re: Themes and the padock

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Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:10:24 PM
Subject: [24hoursofLeMons] Re: Themes and the padock

CHRIS OVERZET (fabtoys@sbcglobal. net) said:
> there is a sound ordinance due to the a$$hole on the hill that
> actually has? DB meters . That's a Jay question but would be cool
> ,what kind of music?

I think you're thinking Altamont? Or does that asshole's brother live in
Willows?

THill has some signage for noise, but I've never seen anyone busted for
sound there. This includes an obnoxiously loud rx-7 with a straight
pipe.

.adam

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#3849

From: "John \"Jay\" Lamm" <lammbaa@...>
Date: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: Themes and the padock

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I think as a rule, most racetracks' reactions to the questions below are "no" and "Good God, Hell NO," but I've forwarded these to Thunderhill anyway and await their response....--JL

On Oct 19, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Miles Gary wrote:

As our car preparations continue for future California LeMons events, we have run across a few questions regaurding the theme.

1.� Most of the drivers on our team are in some way or another in a band.� With that said, if our theme was somehow music orientated would we be able to set up and play some live music (so long as it is approved by Jay and the LeMons Judges) on the premises?� I know there are noise ordinances...so?��

2.� In addition to, or standing alone, can we have in car audio for others to hear (approval of said music can be by Jay and LeMons Judges)?� Again, noise ordinances permitting.��

Team (unamed)

Miles Gary�

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#3852

From: Jason Wiener <jason@...>
Date: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:50 pm
Subject: Houston LeMons: Anyone work or live close to downtown Houston?

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Hi-



This past Friday, when I flew in for the race, someone busted the window

of my rental and got my laptop, ipod, in-car cams an a bunch of other

person crap.  To top it all off we were in the Scirocco that never made

it onto the track (just another kick in the nuts for the weekend).



I need to send my insurance company a police report for the claims, but

apparently Houston PD will take up to 2 weeks to mail it to me.



Is anyone close to downtown and would be open to running to the PD,

grabbing a copy and faxing/mailing to me?



I know it's a pain in the ass, but it'd be very much appreciated.



J.

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#3871

From: "James Rogerson" <jwr46@...>
Date: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:11 am
Subject: Re: Houston LeMons: Anyone work or live close to downtown Houston?

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Send me the info to my personal eMail and I'll go get it for you.



MSR James



--- In 24hoursofLeMons@yahoogroups.com, Jason Wiener <jason@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi-

>

> This past Friday, when I flew in for the race, someone busted the

window

> of my rental and got my laptop, ipod, in-car cams an a bunch of

other

> person crap.  To top it all off we were in the Scirocco that never

made

> it onto the track (just another kick in the nuts for the weekend).

>

> I need to send my insurance company a police report for the claims,

but

> apparently Houston PD will take up to 2 weeks to mail it to me.

>

> Is anyone close to downtown and would be open to running to the PD,

> grabbing a copy and faxing/mailing to me?

>

> I know it's a pain in the ass, but it'd be very much appreciated.

>

> J.

>

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#3872

From: Jason Wiener <jason@...>
Date: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:17 am
Subject: Re: Re: Houston LeMons: Anyone work or live close to downtown Houston?

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Hi James-

Thanks. Someone grabbed it for me today.

Truly appreciate the follow-up however.

On Oct 22, 2008, at 9:11 PM, James Rogerson wrote:

Send me the info to my personal eMail and I'll go get it for you.

MSR James

--- In 24hoursofLeMons@yahoogroups.com, Jason Wiener <jason@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi-
>
> This past Friday, when I flew in for the race, someone busted the
window
> of my rental and got my laptop, ipod, in-car cams an a bunch of
other
> person crap. To top it all off we were in the Scirocco that never
made
> it onto the track (just another kick in the nuts for the weekend).
>
> I need to send my insurance company a police report for the claims,
but
> apparently Houston PD will take up to 2 weeks to mail it to me.
>
> Is anyone close to downtown and would be open to running to the PD,
> grabbing a copy and faxing/mailing to me?
>
> I know it's a pain in the ass, but it'd be very much appreciated.
>
> J.
>

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#3853

From: Miles Gary <inches805@...>
Date: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:15 pm
Subject: RE: Themes and the padock

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LOL,

Thanks for checking thought Jay. If it doesn't work out it doesn't work out. We'll think of something else!

Miles

To: 24hoursofLeMons@yahoogroups.com
From: lammbaa@...
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:41:14 -0700
Subject: Re: [24hoursofLeMons] Themes and the padock

I think as a rule, most racetracks' reactions to the questions below are "no" and "Good God, Hell NO," but I've forwarded these to Thunderhill anyway and await their response....--JL

On Oct 19, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Miles Gary wrote:

As our car preparations continue for future California LeMons events, we have run across a few questions regaurding the theme.

1. Most of the drivers on our team are in some way or another in a band. With that said, if our theme was somehow music orientated would we be able to set up and play some live music (so long as it is approved by Jay and the LeMons Judges) on the premises? I know there are noise ordinances...so?

2. In addition to, or standing alone, can we have in car audio for others to hear (approval of said music can be by Jay and LeMons Judges)? Again, noise ordinances permitting.

Team (unamed)

Miles Gary



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#4050

From: Miles Gary <inches805@...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:13 am
Subject: Drivers seat

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Ok, looking at the rules (and me being totally new at this) what exactly constitutes a "drivers seat"?

"3.2: Driver's Seat: Driver's seatback must reach above middle of helmet or higher.
One-piece SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly encouraged."

I see that SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly encouraged, but does that mean that a stock seat is ok? Do I need to weld something?

I ask all of this because our team has some drivers that vary in height quite a bit. If I can't use the stock seat, I would like to find an adjustable seat that would work. Please don't just say "get the race seat..." I want to know why, and what is required of the rules.

Thanks in advance

Miles

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#4051

From: David Wiggins <dave@...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:28 am
Subject: Re: Drivers seat

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If the top of the seatback of the stock seat comes to the midpoint or higher

on the helmet of all your drivers, then yes, you can use the stock seat.



The rules say that purpose built racing seats are strongly encouraged, but

it does not say they are REQUIRED. What IS required is spelled out in the

first sentence of the rules.



Seriously, this isn't rocket surgery. The rules say what they mean and mean

what they say. If Jay wanted to require SFI/FIA rated seats, it's be super

easy for him to write a rule that made purpose built racing seats the

requirement.



But, he didn't.



-dave





On 11/17/08 11:13 PM, "Miles Gary" <inches805@...> wrote:



>

>  Ok, looking at the rules (and me being totally new at this) what exactly

> constitutes a "drivers seat"?

>

> "3.2: Driver's Seat: Driver's seatback must reach above middle of helmet

> or higher.

> One-piece SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly

> encouraged."

>

> I see that SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly

> encouraged, but does that mean that a stock seat is ok?  Do I need to weld

> something?

>

> I ask all of this because our team has some drivers that vary in height quite

> a bit.  If I can't use the stock seat, I would like to find an adjustable seat

> that would work.  Please don't just say "get the race seat..."  I want to know

> why, and what is required of the rules.

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> Miles

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> See how Windows� connects the people, information, and fun that are part of

> your life

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#4052

From: Miles Gary <inches805@...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:52 am
Subject: RE: Drivers seat

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Thanks,

That clarifies my next lame question "so what about the headrest?". Looks like we are looking for a seat.
Any suggestions on ones that slide front to back?

Miles

To: 24hoursofLeMons@yahoogroups.com
From: dave@...
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:28:34 -0600
Subject: Re: [24hoursofLeMons] Drivers seat

If the top of the seatback of the stock seat comes to the midpoint or higher
on the helmet of all your drivers, then yes, you can use the stock seat.

The rules say that purpose built racing seats are strongly encouraged, but
it does not say they are REQUIRED. What IS required is spelled out in the
first sentence of the rules.

Seriously, this isn't rocket surgery. The rules say what they mean and mean
what they say. If Jay wanted to require SFI/FIA rated seats, it's be super
easy for him to write a rule that made purpose built racing seats the
requirement.

But, he didn't.

-dave

On 11/17/08 11:13 PM, "Miles Gary" <inches805@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Ok, looking at the rules (and me being totally new at this) what exactly
> constitutes a "drivers seat"?
>
> "3.2: Driver's Seat: Driver's seatback must reach above middle of helmet
> or higher.
> One-piece SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly
> encouraged."
>
> I see that SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly
> encouraged, but does that mean that a stock seat is ok? Do I need to weld
> something?
>
> I ask all of this because our team has some drivers that vary in height quite
> a bit. If I can't use the stock seat, I would like to find an adjustable seat
> that would work. Please don't just say "get the race seat..." I want to know
> why, and what is required of the rules.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Miles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________
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#4060

From: "Scott" <ltdscott@...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: Drivers seat

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You can get sliders to bolt onto aftermarket seats for just about any

car. I was lucky enough to find a company that made an adapter to bolt

aftermarket seats onto the factory sliders, so our seat installation

was literally bolt in.



In my opinion it's a worthwhile investment to get a decent seat. Apart

from the safety factor, dedicated racing seats will hold you in the

car much better than any stock seat. Having to brace yourself with

your arms and legs when going around corners can be very tiring, as

I've learned from tracking my street car. Having a good seat that can

hold you in properly is a good thing.



We went with a Corbeau seat and are very happy with it.



-Scott

Team Porcubimmer





--- In 24hoursofLeMons@yahoogroups.com, Miles Gary <inches805@...> wrote:

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> That clarifies my next lame question "so what about the headrest?".

  Looks like we are looking for a seat.

> Any suggestions on ones that slide front to back?

>

> Miles

>

> To: 24hoursofLeMons@yahoogroups.com

> From: dave@...

> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:28:34 -0600

> Subject: Re: [24hoursofLeMons] Drivers seat

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>             If the top of the seatback of the stock seat comes to

the midpoint or higher

>

> on the helmet of all your drivers, then yes, you can use the stock seat.

>

>

>

> The rules say that purpose built racing seats are strongly

encouraged, but

>

> it does not say they are REQUIRED. What IS required is spelled out

in the

>

> first sentence of the rules.

>

>

>

> Seriously, this isn't rocket surgery. The rules say what they mean

and mean

>

> what they say. If Jay wanted to require SFI/FIA rated seats, it's be

super

>

> easy for him to write a rule that made purpose built racing seats the

>

> requirement.

>

>

>

> But, he didn't.

>

>

>

> -dave

>

>

>

> On 11/17/08 11:13 PM, "Miles Gary" <inches805@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> >

>

> >  Ok, looking at the rules (and me being totally new at this) what

exactly

>

> > constitutes a "drivers seat"?

>

> >

>

> > "3.2: Driver's Seat: Driver's seatback must reach above middle of

helmet

>

> > or higher.

>

> > One-piece SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly

>

> > encouraged."

>

> >

>

> > I see that SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly

>

> > encouraged, but does that mean that a stock seat is ok?  Do I need

to weld

>

> > something?

>

> >

>

> > I ask all of this because our team has some drivers that vary in

height quite

>

> > a bit.  If I can't use the stock seat, I would like to find an

adjustable seat

>

> > that would work.  Please don't just say "get the race seat..."  I

want to know

>

> > why, and what is required of the rules.

>

> >

>

> > Thanks in advance

>

> >

>

> > Miles

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > __________________________________________________________

>

> > See how Windows� connects the people, information, and fun that

are part of

>

> > your life

>

> > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119463819/direct/01/

>

>

>

> --

>

> David Wiggins

>

> dave@...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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#4061

From: Miles Gary <inches805@...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:56 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Drivers seat

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Thanks for all the info guys! I after looking at my stock prelude seat, I think I will need to invest in a race seat. I am glad to hear that I can bolt (or weld as the case may be) the new seat to the factory seat rails.

Miles

To: 24hoursofLeMons@yahoogroups.com
From: ltdscott@...
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:43:18 +0000
Subject: [24hoursofLeMons] Re: Drivers seat

You can get sliders to bolt onto aftermarket seats for just about any
car. I was lucky enough to find a company that made an adapter to bolt
aftermarket seats onto the factory sliders, so our seat installation
was literally bolt in.

In my opinion it's a worthwhile investment to get a decent seat. Apart
from the safety factor, dedicated racing seats will hold you in the
car much better than any stock seat. Having to brace yourself with
your arms and legs when going around corners can be very tiring, as
I've learned from tracking my street car. Having a good seat that can
hold you in properly is a good thing.

We went with a Corbeau seat and are very happy with it.

-Scott
Team Porcubimmer

--- In 24hoursofLeMons@yahoogroups.com, Miles Gary <inches805@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> That clarifies my next lame question "so what about the headrest?".
Looks like we are looking for a seat.
> Any suggestions on ones that slide front to back?
>
> Miles
>
> To: 24hoursofLeMons@yahoogroups.com
> From: dave@...
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:28:34 -0600
> Subject: Re: [24hoursofLeMons] Drivers seat
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If the top of the seatback of the stock seat comes to
the midpoint or higher
>
> on the helmet of all your drivers, then yes, you can use the stock seat.
>
>
>
> The rules say that purpose built racing seats are strongly
encouraged, but
>
> it does not say they are REQUIRED. What IS required is spelled out
in the
>
> first sentence of the rules.
>
>
>
> Seriously, this isn't rocket surgery. The rules say what they mean
and mean
>
> what they say. If Jay wanted to require SFI/FIA rated seats, it's be
super
>
> easy for him to write a rule that made purpose built racing seats the
>
> requirement.
>
>
>
> But, he didn't.
>
>
>
> -dave
>
>
>
> On 11/17/08 11:13 PM, "Miles Gary" <inches805@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> > Ok, looking at the rules (and me being totally new at this) what
exactly
>
> > constitutes a "drivers seat"?
>
> >
>
> > "3.2: Driver's Seat: Driver's seatback must reach above middle of
helmet
>
> > or higher.
>
> > One-piece SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly
>
> > encouraged."
>
> >
>
> > I see that SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly
>
> > encouraged, but does that mean that a stock seat is ok? Do I need
to weld
>
> > something?
>
> >
>
> > I ask all of this because our team has some drivers that vary in
height quite
>
> > a bit. If I can't use the stock seat, I would like to find an
adjustable seat
>
> > that would work. Please don't just say "get the race seat..." I
want to know
>
> > why, and what is required of the rules.
>
> >
>
> > Thanks in advance
>
> >
>
> > Miles
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > __________________________________________________________
>
> > See how Windows� connects the people, information, and fun that
are part of
>
> > your life
>
> > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119463819/direct/01/
>
>
>
> --
>
> David Wiggins
>
> dave@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________
> See how Windows� connects the people, information, and fun that are
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#4062

From: Hooter Valve <saabsgonewild@...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:05 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Drivers seat

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From: Miles Gary <inches805@...>
Subject: RE: [24hoursofLeMons] Re: Drivers seat
To: "LeMons Racing" <24hoursoflemons@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 11:56 AM

Thanks for all the info guys! I after looking at my stock prelude seat, I think I will need to invest in a race seat. I am glad to hear that I can bolt (or weld as the case may be) the new seat to the factory seat rails.

Miles

To: 24hoursofLeMons@ yahoogroups. com
From: ltdscott@gmail. com
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:43:18 +0000
Subject: [24hoursofLeMons] Re: Drivers seat

You can get sliders to bolt onto aftermarket seats for just about any
car. I was lucky enough to find a company that made an adapter to bolt
aftermarket seats onto the factory sliders, so our seat installation
was literally bolt in.

In my opinion it's a worthwhile investment to get a decent seat. Apart
from the safety factor, dedicated racing seats will hold you in the
car much better than any stock seat. Having to brace yourself with
your arms and legs when going around corners can be very tiring, as
I've learned from tracking my street car. Having a good seat that can
hold you in properly is a good thing.

We went with a Corbeau seat and are very happy with it.

-Scott
Team Porcubimmer

--- In 24hoursofLeMons@ yahoogroups. com, Miles Gary <inches805@. ..> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> That clarifies my next lame question "so what about the headrest?".
Looks like we are looking for a seat.
> Any suggestions on ones that slide front to back?
>
> Miles
>
> To: 24hoursofLeMons@ yahoogroups. com
> From: dave@...
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:28:34 -0600
> Subject: Re: [24hoursofLeMons] Drivers seat
>
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>
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>
>
> If the top of the seatback of the stock seat comes to
the midpoint or higher
>
> on the helmet of all your drivers, then yes, you can use the stock seat.
>
>
>
> The rules say that purpose built racing seats are strongly
encouraged, but
>
> it does not say they are REQUIRED. What IS required is spelled out
in the
>
> first sentence of the rules.
>
>
>
> Seriously, this isn't rocket surgery. The rules say what they mean
and mean
>
> what they say. If Jay wanted to require SFI/FIA rated seats, it's be
super
>
> easy for him to write a rule that made purpose built racing seats the
>
> requirement.
>
>
>
> But, he didn't.
>
>
>
> -dave
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>
>
> On 11/17/08 11:13 PM, "Miles Gary" <inches805@. ..> wrote:
>
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> >
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> > Ok, looking at the rules (and me being totally new at this) what
exactly
>
> > constitutes a "drivers seat"?
>
> >
>
> > "3.2: Driver's Seat: Driver's seatback must reach above middle of
helmet
>
> > or higher.
>
> > One-piece SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly
>
> > encouraged."
>
> >
>
> > I see that SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly
>
> > encouraged, but does that mean that a stock seat is ok? Do I need
to weld
>
> > something?
>
> >
>
> > I ask all of this because our team has some drivers that vary in
height quite
>
> > a bit. If I can't use the stock seat, I would like to find an
adjustable seat
>
> > that would work. Please don't just say "get the race seat..." I
want to know
>
> > why, and what is required of the rules.
>
> >
>
> > Thanks in advance
>
> >
>
> > Miles
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From: "Scott" <ltdscott@...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:27 pm
Subject: Re: Drivers seat

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I actually stayed away from the Corbeau sliders after hearing your report of their flimsiness. Found a company that makes adjustable side mount brackets that bolt onto the ///factory sliders. Works great, and in my case I had to mount the seat in its lowest position (and laid the seat back) to fit my ogre-like proportions, plus offset it slightly to the side to clear the cage.

Photo of mount

-Scott
Team Porcubimmer

--- In 24hoursofLeMons@yahoogroups.com, Hooter Valve <saabsgonewild@...> wrote:
>
> The ones we've done using the stock sliders (which were much more sturdy than the ones on the Corbeaus we use) the attachment points on the race seat put it much lower than the stock seat, however you may need more (or less?) clearance depending upon your drivers torso length *and the helmet*, so when doing the fab consider these points. We have blocked spacers and moved our seat a little higher. You can also put taller blocks in the front than the rear to get a lay back stance if you want.
>

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#4053

From: CHRIS OVERZET <fabtoys@...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:54 am
Subject: Re: Drivers seat

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For strength factor make sure there is a backsupport bar behind seat so the adjustable seat doesn't break

Chris Overzet

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From: David Wiggins <dave@...>
To: "24hoursofLeMons@yahoogroups.com" <24hoursofLeMons@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:28:34 PM
Subject: Re: [24hoursofLeMons] Drivers seat

If the top of the seatback of the stock seat comes to the midpoint or higher
on the helmet of all your drivers, then yes, you can use the stock seat.

The rules say that purpose built racing seats are strongly encouraged, but
it does not say they are REQUIRED. What IS required is spelled out in the
first sentence of the rules.

Seriously, this isn't rocket surgery. The rules say what they mean and mean
what they say. If Jay wanted to require SFI/FIA rated seats, it's be super
easy for him to write a rule that made purpose built racing seats the
requirement.

But, he didn't.

-dave

On 11/17/08 11:13 PM, "Miles Gary" <inches805@hotmail. com> wrote:

>
> Ok, looking at the rules (and me being totally new at this) what exactly
> constitutes a "drivers seat"?
>
> "3.2: Driver's Seat: Driver's seatback must reach above middle of helmet
> or higher.
> One-piece SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly
> encouraged."
>
> I see that SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly
> encouraged, but does that mean that a stock seat is ok? Do I need to weld
> something?
>
> I ask all of this because our team has some drivers that vary in height quite
> a bit. If I can't use the stock seat, I would like to find an adjustable seat
> that would work. Please don't just say "get the race seat..." I want to know
> why, and what is required of the rules.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Miles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: CHRIS OVERZET <fabtoys@...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:28 am
Subject: Re: Drivers seat

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Kragen sell a cool seat for $100 don't get those Jaz plastic seats they are uncomfortable I run a www.prpseats.com

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From: Miles Gary <inches805@...>
To: LeMons Racing <24hoursoflemons@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:52:49 PM
Subject: RE: [24hoursofLeMons] Drivers seat

Thanks,

That clarifies my next lame question "so what about the headrest?". Looks like we are looking for a seat.
Any suggestions on ones that slide front to back?

Miles

To: 24hoursofLeMons@ yahoogroups. com
From: dave@outage. net
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:28:34 -0600
Subject: Re: [24hoursofLeMons] Drivers seat

If the top of the seatback of the stock seat comes to the midpoint or higher
on the helmet of all your drivers, then yes, you can use the stock seat.

The rules say that purpose built racing seats are strongly encouraged, but
it does not say they are REQUIRED. What IS required is spelled out in the
first sentence of the rules.

Seriously, this isn't rocket surgery. The rules say what they mean and mean
what they say. If Jay wanted to require SFI/FIA rated seats, it's be super
easy for him to write a rule that made purpose built racing seats the
requirement.

But, he didn't.

-dave

On 11/17/08 11:13 PM, "Miles Gary" <inches805@hotmail. com> wrote:

>
> Ok, looking at the rules (and me being totally new at this) what exactly
> constitutes a "drivers seat"?
>
> "3.2: Driver's Seat: Driver's seatback must reach above middle of helmet
> or higher.
> One-piece SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly
> encouraged."
>
> I see that SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly
> encouraged, but does that mean that a stock seat is ok? Do I need to weld
> something?
>
> I ask all of this because our team has some drivers that vary in height quite
> a bit. If I can't use the stock seat, I would like to find an adjustable seat
> that would work. Please don't just say "get the race seat..." I want to know
> why, and what is required of the rules.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Miles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> See how Windows� connects the people, information, and fun that are part of
> your life
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#4055

From: CHRIS OVERZET <fabtoys@...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:44 am
Subject: Re: Drivers seat

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hunsaker makes one too .Prp seat /Mastercraft or Beard are suspension seats I run one in my #14 caltrans honda Actually the seat has been all over the nevada desert for years in 4 different cars/trucks

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From: Miles Gary <inches805@...>
To: LeMons Racing <24hoursoflemons@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:52:49 PM
Subject: RE: [24hoursofLeMons] Drivers seat

Thanks,

That clarifies my next lame question "so what about the headrest?". Looks like we are looking for a seat.
Any suggestions on ones that slide front to back?

Miles

To: 24hoursofLeMons@ yahoogroups. com
From: dave@outage. net
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:28:34 -0600
Subject: Re: [24hoursofLeMons] Drivers seat

If the top of the seatback of the stock seat comes to the midpoint or higher
on the helmet of all your drivers, then yes, you can use the stock seat.

The rules say that purpose built racing seats are strongly encouraged, but
it does not say they are REQUIRED. What IS required is spelled out in the
first sentence of the rules.

Seriously, this isn't rocket surgery. The rules say what they mean and mean
what they say. If Jay wanted to require SFI/FIA rated seats, it's be super
easy for him to write a rule that made purpose built racing seats the
requirement.

But, he didn't.

-dave

On 11/17/08 11:13 PM, "Miles Gary" <inches805@hotmail. com> wrote:

>
> Ok, looking at the rules (and me being totally new at this) what exactly
> constitutes a "drivers seat"?
>
> "3.2: Driver's Seat: Driver's seatback must reach above middle of helmet
> or higher.
> One-piece SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly
> encouraged."
>
> I see that SFI- or FIA-rated competition seats very strongly
> encouraged, but does that mean that a stock seat is ok? Do I need to weld
> something?
>
> I ask all of this because our team has some drivers that vary in height quite
> a bit. If I can't use the stock seat, I would like to find an adjustable seat
> that would work. Please don't just say "get the race seat..." I want to know
> why, and what is required of the rules.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Miles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> See how Windows� connects the people, information, and fun that are part of
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From: "Dave Coleman" <dave@...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:14 am
Subject: Re: Drivers seat

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Any race seat can be mounted to stock seat rails to make it adjustable (with a little welding...). We also failed to get a homogeneous clone team, so we have to adjust our seat too.

How hard this is depends on your car. On our CRX, the stock seat rails bolted to the bottom of the stock seat. If yours are integral to the seat, things will be harder. You also may have difficulty with headroom if your car is all racy and low and stuff. I scratched up the top of my helmet in the CRX, but in our new Miata, we had to raise the roof AND lower the floor.

-Dave

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From: "James Rogerson" <jwr46@...>
Date: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:10 am
Subject: Re: Themes and the padock

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OK, I hear your need.  Next time at MSRH the track will host a team

band competition on Saturday night.  Details to be worked out.

Something simple, low entry fee, 50% to charity, 50% back to the top

three.  All members must participate, but one "ringer" can be brought

in.  ;)

MSR James

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> As our car preparations continue for future California LeMons

events, we have run across a few questions regaurding the theme.

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> 1.  Most of the drivers on our team are in some way or another in a

band.  With that said, if our theme was somehow music orientated

would we be able to set up and play some live music (so long as it is

approved by Jay and the LeMons Judges) on the premises?  I know there

are noise ordinances...so?

>

> 2.  In addition to, or standing alone, can we have in car audio for

others to hear (approval of said music can be by Jay and LeMons

Judges)?  Again, noise ordinances permitting.

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